Could one potentially use edl to in easy words "walk-around" a locked bootloader and flash an unlockable or unlocked bootloader iv seen a few posts about edl and people talking about using to unlock other bootloader's but I'm not a pixel person this is my first pixel and I'm not a fan of the locked bootloader
If there's no way around it anyone in Canada know a place I can trade it for something else
Can confirm that at least in the case of the OnePlus 8T, EDL doesn't give a damn about what BL you have. However, it will only flash stock things usually, and in a proprietary format specially prepared for EDL.
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I just recieved my phone and before I installed anything, I was going thru it and saw that it has the option to enable oem unlock? Anyone else get this or able to further a rooting process since it has it enabled?
OEM unlock in the settings just sets a bit in frp partition.
This would allow you to unlock the bootloader IF you could
1) access the bootloader in the first place
2) it would have the necessary commands available
2a) fastboot oem unlock (android standard)
2b) fastboot flash unlock unlock.bin (or so, for LG) with the unlock.bin provided by lg, generated by device id and imei (aka needs to be whitelisted by them)
on the sd845 devices, those that flash an engineering bootloader from someone with an octoplus box, use 2a because thats available there (after they had to wipe laf to enter fastboot)
but for that to try you would need
1) someone with an octoplux box, capable of flashing to sd855 LG devices
2) some leaked engineering bootloader (or create your own via reverse engineering, but one wrong step here, and brick basically)
I appreciate the return and detailed response. I am moving from the samsung galaxy s8 active to this V50. So I got excited about seeing the enable oem switch in developers mode, being that the s8 doesnt even display it. I miss being able to tinker with a device since the nexus 5x. This one is a beaut tho. So we'll see if life can adjust to it. the S8 was good, overall, for what it was. But having a secure, or at least ipi68+mil std, is not for one who enjoys to tinker. You mentioned about LG whitlisting it. Is there such a way to have that requested, or is it a result of a form of consequence?
I can run adb reboot edl, and it works.
from there I don't know what to do, but I would like to unlock the bootloader, but the option is grayed out like it is for all verizon P3s.
I'm on SW version a2.
I can still return the phone, and I will if I can't unlock the bootloader, but it seems no one has figured out how yet, and I was reading that people were trying to get to EDL mode and couldn't. for some reason mine does EDL fine.
Thanks for any input.
other small question, if I return this pixel 3, what should I look for on ebay or elsewhere to find an unlockable P3.
I understand that the imei number that starts with 35 is verizon. what Imei should I look for to find a unlockable p3?
The MEID on my unlocked P3 bought from Google starts with 99.
dcarvil said:
The MEID on my unlocked P3 bought from Google starts with 99.
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Thank you so much for the info. I'll see if I can track one down.
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Currently owning a ROG Phone 5 WW edition, im planning to unlock the bootloader soon and doing a few other things.
Before starting to really mess up with it, i'd like to know about any existing EDL tool i could use to dump some/all of the device partitions, possibly before unlocking it, so i could use em if i ever brick the device during the experiments.
I've been checking about adb and fastboot commands, but im very restricted about what i can do now and some people said that the bootloader can only be unlocked once with the official tool, but i think that it may be possible to unlock the bootloader multiple times with it, as long as its properly relocked/encrypted.
Im really new to this EDL stuff and Asus devices in general, so any infos are welcome !
( Please mention the edition WW or CN if you say anything device-related, as they both seem to differ in their behavior )
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Hello
Currently owning a ROG Phone 5 WW edition, im planning to unlock the bootloader soon and doing a few other things.
Before starting to really mess up with it, i'd like to know about any existing EDL tool i could use to dump some/all of the device partitions, possibly before unlocking it, so i could use em if i ever brick the device during the experiments.
I've been checking about adb and fastboot commands, but im very restricted about what i can do now and some people said that the bootloader can only be unlocked once with the official tool, but i think that it may be possible to unlock the bootloader multiple times with it, as long as its properly relocked/encrypted.
Im really new to this EDL stuff and Asus devices in general, so any infos are welcome !
( Please mention the edition WW or CN if you say anything device-related, as they both seem to differ in their behavior )
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Wait some time, when something better come out, don't make your Asus ROG 5 phone a expensive brick right away!
WAIT or PAY the PRICE.
i did pay the price. and my phone is beyond repairable, had to get a new one.
Just wait.
Still wait for Edl firmware. Hope it's release soon.
m8822 said:
WAIT or PAY the PRICE.
i did pay the price. and my phone is beyond repairable, had to get a new one.
Just wait.
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Could you tell me more about what you did exactly ? And the current state of that device ?
Are you still able to boot it into EDL mode ?
I've bought one of those locked Pixel 4As running on ArcaneOS and it's got a locked bootloader but the issue is that like everybody else, I can't do much with the phone. So I'm wondering if there's a way to get a phone into the EDL and then flash the stock firmware through QPST?
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I've bought one of those locked Pixel 4As running on ArcaneOS and it's got a locked bootloader but the issue is that like everybody else, I can't do much with the phone. So I'm wondering if there's a way to get a phone into the EDL and then flash the stock firmware through QPST?
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Don't think it's possible as Google doesn't release the firehose (needed by qfil) for pixel phones.
Numerous other device mfg do release the firehose file. Some of them use the same chip as what's in the 4a, but from what I read (I've never tried this), the other mfg file, even though it's for the same chip, won't work.
So ArcaneOS is locking the bootloader and u are now unable to unlock it?
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Don't think it's possible as Google doesn't release the firehose (needed by qfil) for pixel phones.
Numerous other device mfg do release the firehose file. Some of them use the same chip as what's in the 4a, but from what I read (I've never tried this), the other mfg file, even though it's for the same chip, won't work.
So ArcaneOS is locking the bootloader and u are now unable to unlock it?
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I've found an mbn file for the pixel 4a and it may be possible to do something with it in qfil (?) but I am unsure. Haven't managed to boot my phone in EDL.
As for the ArcaneOS, I am unsure if it locks the bootloader itself or you need to lock it manually after flashing it. Mine has ArcaneOS installed with no build number which means no access to developer options. There are some articles on pixel phones with this ROM on them and they were apparently used by the FBI undercover agents to sell them to the criminals and catch them.
As of writing this reply, the options for making the device usable are either changing the UFS chip or getting your hands on a broken pixel 4a with a working motherboard. Those usually go from 70 - 100€ from what I've seen. I haven't been able to find one in my country yet.
The issue with changing the UFS chip is that it's hard to find one. I've only found a couple on Ali Express for about 25€. Another issue is that apparently where I live they charge anywhere between 100 - 400€ for a memory chip replacement. What a joke
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I've found an mbn file for the pixel 4a and it may be possible to do something with it in qfil (?) but I am unsure. Haven't managed to boot my phone in EDL.
As for the ArcaneOS, I am unsure if it locks the bootloader itself or you need to lock it manually after flashing it. Mine has ArcaneOS installed with no build number which means no access to developer options. There are some articles on pixel phones with this ROM on them and they were apparently used by the FBI undercover agents to sell them to the criminals and catch them.
As of writing this reply, the options for making the device usable are either changing the UFS chip or getting your hands on a broken pixel 4a with a working motherboard. Those usually go from 70 - 100€ from what I've seen. I haven't been able to find one in my country yet.
The issue with changing the UFS chip is that it's hard to find one. I've only found a couple on Ali Express for about 25€. Another issue is that apparently where I live they charge anywhere between 100 - 400€ for a memory chip replacement. What a joke
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edit to add: didn't realize but yes it does look like the proper mbn file *might* allow u to flash stock firmware? Not sure, haven't done it, from what I read the appropriate xml would be needed also... not sure.
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Just got finished reading the entire Arcane OS thread in same forum. Getting the device into EDL mode shouldn't be a problem, and qualcomm device is capable of that and afaik, it's impossible to defeat that.
but, it's no help if u don't have the programmer firehose file, as u simply can't access the device without it. I've used edl / firehose files for LG devices, but they somehow (the firehose files) become 'leaked' (probably by LG).
But google, nope, I've looked due to the pix 3 (and some others) inadvertently bricking themselves (no one sure why), where u just pick up the device and u have a blank screen. But if u plug it into pc it will connect as QLoader etc (it's basically stuck in edl mode).
But those devices can't be fixed either, same issue in that there's no firehose programmer file for it. So u simply can't access the device.
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edit to add: didn't realize but yes it does look like the proper mbn file *might* allow u to flash stock firmware? Not sure, haven't done it, from what I read the appropriate xml would be needed also... not sure.
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Just got finished reading the entire Arcane OS thread in same forum. Getting the device into EDL mode shouldn't be a problem, and qualcomm device is capable of that and afaik, it's impossible to defeat that.
but, it's no help if u don't have the programmer firehose file, as u simply can't access the device without it. I've used edl / firehose files for LG devices, but they somehow (the firehose files) become 'leaked' (probably by LG).
But google, nope, I've looked due to the pix 3 (and some others) inadvertently bricking themselves (no one sure why), where u just pick up the device and u have a blank screen. But if u plug it into pc it will connect as QLoader etc (it's basically stuck in edl mode).
But those devices can't be fixed either, same issue in that there's no firehose programmer file for it. So u simply can't access the device.
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Ah that's very unfortunate. Well, might as well wait some time. Someone may figure out how to forcefully unlock the bootloader or the firehose file might gets leaked. Who knows... If no, then hopefully I can get a broken pix 4a and just swap the motherboard to my locked one.
Thanks anyways!
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Ah that's very unfortunate. Well, might as well wait some time. Someone may figure out how to forcefully unlock the bootloader or the firehose file might gets leaked. Who knows... If no, then hopefully I can get a broken pix 4a and just swap the motherboard to my locked one.
Thanks anyways!
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IMO, the device was flashed with a custom public key to the avb_custom_key partition.
Hi everybody
I'm struggling with pixel 3 OEM enabling which is already grayout and carrier locked issue
I done anything but this thing is still locked
Is there anyway to unlock it? Or cross rom to global to unlock it?
Its looks like verizon
Thanks
Unfortunately a Verizon branded Pixel is not unlockable, and it is not possible to reflash the global firmware because flashing anything requires an unlocked bootloader.
If you aren't sure it's Verizon, you can try this:
Remove the SIM
Factory reset the device
Skip through setup, make sure you connect to a wireless network
Manually set the clock 1 week ahead
Use *#*#checkin#*#* to force a checkin
Leave the device overnight and see if OEM Unlocking is toggleable
Again, if this is for sure a Verizon device, unlocking the bootloader is not possible.
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Unfortunately a Verizon branded Pixel is not unlockable, and it is not possible to reflash the global firmware because flashing anything requires an unlocked bootloader.
If you aren't sure it's Verizon, you can try this:
Remove the SIM
Factory reset the device
Skip through setup, make sure you connect to a wireless network
Manually set the clock 1 week ahead
Use *#*#checkin#*#* to force a checkin
Leave the device overnight and see if OEM Unlocking is toggleable
Again, if this is for sure a Verizon device, unlocking the bootloader is not possible.
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Well its looks like verizon coz i done many other brands but this is very hard to fix i was thought we'll able to write global edl rom via edl but now think its also not possible
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Well its looks like verizon coz i done many other brands but this is very hard to fix i was thought we'll able to write global edl rom via edl but now think its also not possible
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As far as I know, the EDL files are not available. If they were, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
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As far as I know, the EDL files are not available. If they were, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
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And what about loaders? If loader available then we can take backup of rom
Assumed we have edl files or dump then possible to do something?
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And what about loaders? If loader available then we can take backup of rom
Assumed we have edl files or dump then possible to do something?
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Again, if this was possible, we wouldn't be having this conversation. As with most Qualcomm devices, the Pixel 3 has a QPST mode - for Qualcomm Product Support Tool. This tool is not freely available. As far as I know, it can only be used to write binary images to the chips as one might when attempting to resurrect the device; it cannot be used to dump the contents of a device. This idea has been explored before to no success. Unlocking the Verizon bootloader simply isn't possible, and there simply isn't any way around it.
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Again, if this was possible, we wouldn't be having this conversation. As with most Qualcomm devices, the Pixel 3 has a QPST mode - for Qualcomm Product Support Tool. This tool is not freely available. As far as I know, it can only be used to write binary images to the chips as one might when attempting to resurrect the device; it cannot be used to dump the contents of a device. This idea has been explored before to no success. Unlocking the Verizon bootloader simply isn't possible, and there simply isn't any way around it.
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in case i brick my device and now it,s in 9008 mode then how can i back my device?
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in case i brick my device and now it,s in 9008 mode then how can i back my device?
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You could if we had the binary files for use with QPST, but we don't. A bricked device can only be recovered by someone with both the necessary tools and binary images, which again are not available.