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Leave a comment below telling us your favorite things about the Honor 10 for your chance the win a prize! One lucky user will be selected to win a new phone. Ten others will be selected at random for the lucky draw. We will be accepting comments until June 7 2018. Comments should say what you like about the phone, or what issues you think need to be improved.
This is part of Honor's Change for Better campaign, as they work to improve their products by listening to our community. So keep in mind, Honor will be here to read your comments and see how users are getting along with their new phone.
First Prize: Honor 10
Lucky Draw: Honor Accessories (Bluetooth Earphones, Selfie Stick Ect.)
Rules: Irrelevant, abstract or meaningless massages are not valid.
Sorry for the delay, the results are in!
Grand Prize Winner: Tamil15 wins an Honor 10
Lucky Draw Winner: Genoxis wins a Bluetooth headset from Honor
Hi Honor Team,
Thanks for this wonderful opportunity to share our thoughts on Honor 10. So after 15 days of usage with Honor 10, here i will be sharing my full thoughts on Honor 10 with what all features will be improved and fixed with updates & what the users will be expecting in Future Honor Products.
Design:-
*An unique design, Undoubtedly one of the best designs in smartphones of 2018 with Spectrum colourized back panel with Aluminium frame and placement of Fingerprint, Cameras, Speaker, Sim tray & Volume buttons, No complaints whatsoever.
*Having 5.84inch includes Notch with 19:9 aspect ratio its compact and weight less!
Rating:- 4.8/5
Future Product Design:-
*An unique design same as Honor 10 with multiple color options would be really great.
Display:-
*As far as display goes, its rich and vivid. Under the sunlight a vast improvement from the previous phones like Honor 8 Pro. Color Accuracy and auto-brightness works like charm, having different screen modes is a nice to have feature, so good job!
Rating:- 4.4/5
For Next Version:-
*Being a flagship competitive smartphone, i would like to see honor introducing a AMOLED Screens or at least Super LCD displays for rich color and great viewing angles!
Memory:-
*Basically am not a gaming user, so with my usage with Honor 10 4gb/128gb with March 2018 Patch, i found a little here and there lag and little ram consumption at the background , i know these things will be fixed in future updates.!
Rating:- 4.5/5
For Next Version:-
*Please given an option to use SD card in 2nd sim slot, it could be a welcome option for many users since most of them stores/shoots lots of media's where an option to use SD card on 2nd Sim Slot will be handy in many situations.!
*Also i want honor to consider about its own cloud storage to give users an unlimited storage of their media's like Google Photos.
Battery:
*Having 3400mah with SUper Charging its fine, standby timing is also great. On 15+ days with Honor 10, While normal usage like camera, or browsing phone gets heated up due to which battery backup is just fine, and again these can be fixed in upcoming updates, so no worries.!
*SuperCharge, hats off to it, really works beyond as it was advertised! a great job!
Rating:- 4.4/5
For Next Version:-
Introduce max 4000mah with Supercooling technology for heating problems.
Audio & Speaker:-
*A single speaker, does a fantastic job - it's loud and clear. With Stock music player consists of more options for headphones is great plus and Music player design and animations, Man, I love it!
Rating:- 4.8/5
For Next Version:-
*Even with Single speaker Honor 10 was awesome.! So i would like to see Honor coming up with dual stereo speakers, Hi-fi Quad DAC or Dolby etc. May be with the front firing speakers with notch design, it will be a great treat!
AI Camera & Video:-
*So here comes the most innovative part in Honor 10, AI - For all the ages thats what i will call.!
*With AI or Without AI - Pictures were deep with details, Fast Focusing, AI Scene detection was picture perfect in every clicks whether the picture with AI or not or even Monochrome, awesome work.!
Front Camera:-
*It's a 24MP with beauty options as well as portrait option. But its not upto the mark as of now because beauty options needs to controlled more by the user instead of automatic handling, pictures look more artificial like shiny or more brightness around the faces, especially eyes & cheeks.
*More importantly the portrait selfie mode works good but when two persons taking a selfie portrait picture means it just blurred second person or whoever behind the person who clicks for a selfie. This need to be fixed as soon as possible because you can't take a group portrait with all persons.!
Video:-
*Video clarity is awesome and H265 Coding option comes in handy. But the audio clarity is not upto the mark, improvisation is much needed with update. For Videos user must need to have Tripod or else it will be shaky!
Rating:- 4.4/5 Hopefully with bug fixes in Front Cam
For Next Version:-
*Being a flagship competitive phone, atleast in next version, Please do have OIS, EIS & Fixed Focus for Shooting Videos.!
*Honor 10 packed with right specs with great build quality but it missed out the important factors like OIS or EIS (I hope it can be enabled with updates may be!)
*Super Slow Motion, Reverse video options etc.
*Instead of 24Mp Shooter on the front, i would rather go with dual 8Mp or 12Mp with Wide angle, aperture mode.! so which gives users a more control over bokeh modes as well.
Software:-
*First of all i would like to thank and appreciate Honor for launching devices with latest Android Versions.
*So with EMUI 8.1.0 along side Android Oreo 8.1.0 with NPU & Kirin 970, great performance and a competitive one against the ODDS.!
*From Picture in Picture mode, Navigation gestures, Clean System UI.
1. Themes:-
*Being a Theme developer, am completely disappointed with EMUI 8.1.0, i don't know why these changes happened , EMUI is famous for more customization but even a simple things like notification panel icons, settings menu icons can't be themed as of now. a completed disaster i hope Honor will reconsider to enable full customization like it was in EMUI 5.1/8.0.
2. Removal of Stock Message app:-
*As a theme developer i don't like this option but as a user i love google messenger app.!
3. Navigation Gesture:-
*A must have feature and i hope more options like tap, double tap options will be enabled in future updates!
4. Face Unlock:-
*It's super fast, works great! it works even upside down i dont know its a bug or it tends to work in that way as well.!
5. FingerPrint:-
*A controversial placement, i personally i love it but many users still prefers at the back.!
*Ultrasonic fingerprint it works well in wet hands, its fast but there is a half second delay now & there and setting up takes a lot of time compare to fingerprint sensors at the back, hopefully it will be fixed soon.
6. Notch:-
*Notch! Notch! an option to off and on, but disabling it in LCD Screen won't be good rather i will have my Notch On.!
7. Notification:-
*Lockscreen notification expansion, a must have feature but it's removed i don't know why!?
please enable in future updates.!!
Rating:- 4.4/5
For Next Version:-
*Water resistant and Shatterproof with gorilla glass would be really handy.!
*LockScreen Notification Light, it's too tiny to view the glow, hope it will be taken care in future devices.!
*Huawei Home Launcher:- It's superb, with an option to enable app drawer,widgets more importantly Google Now integration etc but in the same way why can't Huawei introduce features of Nova Launchers or Action Launchers,i hope these things will be considered in future.
Verdict:-4.5/5
**So over all Honor 10, a complete smartphone in every aspects and wins against the ODDs thanks to AI, Of course there is a few misses but some misses but those things can be fixed in updates and other misses will be repacked in future devices.
Honor AI - An Living Innovation
Huawei - We Build Smiles
I am a great fan front mounted fingerprint so in every aspect Honor 10 fulfilled.
I have seen how Honor fixes Bugs or Providing updates even it's delayed so not worrying about the updates.!
Things to get improved:-
* Please include EIS (in reception video 1080 60fps and more stability)
* With AI and NPU improve performance generality
* Front Camera with beauty or without beauty mode needs to get improved in Honor phones which launched recently.
Yes, add more settings and changer DPI. Improve performance and fluidity , Honor 10 have microlag and thermaltrottling is very High pls fix it...
I really like the Honor 10, especially because of the really good overall performance and the battery life.
Also, the quick charge feature is way faster than most other phones I have used. I have no problem with the notch and I absolutely love the face unlock (I don't even use the fingerprint sensor anymore because it is so fast).
On the other hand, maybe include an AMOLED screen the next time since you see the space next to the notch slightly glowing even when off (typical for LCD). Additionally, the fingerprint sensor tends to be a bit slow, which is why I now only use the face unlock.
All in all, this is a really great phone for the value!
This seems like a great device! I like it because it has fast charge, a good camera, and AI.
To top it off, there is a sweet design (Aurora Glass Design) on the back, and it looks amazing!
It is a great phone for the price!
One thing I would change personally would be to move the fingerprint sensor to the back, and to add an AMOLED or OLED screen.
I feel like moving the fingerprint sensor to the back would give more space for more screen.
this goes for everyone else
especially with the track record that most devices get abandoned by their creators in a year or two...
complete and timely open source code release for everything, at the same time as it is widely released on devices in most peoples hands. not just because of gpl, but because it is the right thing to do so interested community members can start learning to provide some support from the beginning and beyond.
along the same theme, full support for standards like Treble with A/B partitioning and unlockable bootloaders, and that of course the hardware, including camera, should all function just as well with a generic AOSP image for those who prefer a stock or alternative experience.
hardware that can support standards around VR / AR as it so frustrating to find a phone just misses a small requirement in some area to not support these, like accel / gyro, nfc, high resolution screens... and headset jacks so you can enable fm radio (obviously useful in case of emergency).
along with the hardware theme, user replaceable batteries, because others have figured out how to do it and keep water protection, so can you. it is much easier to carry a spare little battery that can be swapped in vs being able to tease someone with an older phone who basically has it connected to a big battery pack all the time. bonus points if you choose to be environmentally friendly and have some sort of cross phone model "standard size" user swappable battery.
that covers most issues with most phones, hope that helps.
Oh!
I love the color! Honor Is number one in beauty
and its quick and fast.
I'm on board with everyone else.
Regardless of these being high, midrange and even on budget phones.
There's no reason not to have EIS or OIS. I would rather have
1 really really good camera with OIS then multiple lens without it.
Honor smartphones are truly smart and innovative. Its own Hisilicon Kirin 970 processor is really fast and good. But in most cases its lags behind the latest Snapdragon 845 processor. Although the Kirin 970 is best for machine learning or artificial intiligence(AI) as it have a better NPU but still now software advances are not upto that mark to use its potential fully rather than camera and basic face recognition tasks for better picture quality, face unlock features, etc. Snapdragon 845 on the other hand provides Qualcomm Audio equilizer and support for EIS and OIS. So I would just suggest if at least EIS or OIS is provided. Also the video recording supports only upto 30fs and does not support 4k recording and slow motion which is very demanding and easily available in the price segment. Looks and feel of this smartphone is decent. And I really appreciate the front mounted fingerprint sensor as its really handy. Display also could have been better though.
Thank u.
As much as i want to give my own point of view, i don't have any honor device and don't think i can avoid one, at least not with my country economic crises and insane high naira/dollar exchange rate. Well with the review and comment have read, it such a great and beautiful device. i will surely appreciate it if i can get one. Thanks.
Honor 10 phone provides 32-bit audio, and a fine tuned equalizer, which the OnePlus totally misses on. Apart from the megapixel count, the Honor 10 clearly has a better camera as well, being the first to bring dual cameras to the mainstream market.
Even without the Leica branding like its siblings, Honor phones have amazing cameras and photography software.
This phone comes with an option to remove the navigation bar, and (one step ahead of the Never Settler) provides an option to use it's front mounted under-glass fingerprint sensor to navigate. Better than on screen gestures (also provided), in my opinion.
Hopefully I win!
I have never won a giveaway before, but here it goes!
What I like to see from the Honor 10 is the move to Stock Android as opposed to using EMUI. This is subjective, but I prefer stock android as it is the most optimized and speed efficient.
I also would like the Honor 10 to have a better camera than its predecessors. Since it's supposed to be the latest and greatest!
If not the move to EMUI. Then I would love software support to the latest android os. If Android P gets released. Then I hope that Huawei implements it quickly .
Bottom Line: THe Honor 10 looks like a beautiful device that I would love to have! The Ai camera seems like an excellent feature to have. I hope the camera takes great pictures.
Thank you for hosting this giveaway!
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Favorite things about Honor 10-
Camera- With 24MP+16MP Dual AI Camera and F1.8 wide Aperture, Camera enables professional and amateur photographers to take clear and crisp images.
AI feature-Real-time Recognition of 500+ Scenarios in 22 Categories, even Honor V10 is doing well under 13 categories but Honor 10 has really gone a step forward.
Huawei Super Charging - Don’t need to hang the phone to wall charger to get that full juice.
Aurora Glass Design - looks stunning. The new Aurora glass design reflects vivid colors from different angles. Simply WOW. (Have seen glass design on my Honor 8 and I feel like switching back to Honor 8 from my Honor V10 sometime due to looks)
The colours- Phantom Blue and Phantom Green, Huawei is really serious on the looks and inching a step forward with every launch.
Ultrasonic Under Glass Fingerprint Sensor -The ultrasonic fingerprint sensor under the glass for fast unlock (even with wet hands)
Things that can improve this (or in fact any other Honor/huawei phones) further-
Implementation of EIS/OIS.
Things I like :
The most important thing I like about Honor 10 is its screen to body ratio.Its can be held in hand with ease and have bigger screen.Initially I was hater of Notch but now I see why its being introduced in the latest devices.It gives maximum screen to body ratio (others may have different opinion).
Its battery optimization is one of the plus point for this device.Its juice gives me two days of usage time.
Its symmetry amazes me it has nice design with good look.
I love the health app included in the phone simple yet efficient.
Things need to improve:
The back camera is great in most of the scenarios but it need to improve its AI integration.While taking photos in low light with AI enabled the quality of photos is not good as compared to normal mode.
Front camera need to be improved a lot while taking photos in low light . Please give us an option to disable beauty mode in front camera not every one likes it.
I think portrait mode is not working as desired in Honor 10.Its not blurring the surroundings .
Please fix the bluetooth connectivity issues . I cant connect my Honor 10 with Honor bluetooth headphones its not visible even while searching for headphones.If you need any more specific logs I am glad to help .
Also include option to scan QR code from the camera itself which is available in older EMUI versions.Currently its buried deeply into the system settings .
I would also like to have AMOLED screens in the upcoming models.
Its network reception is not upto the mark in congested regions I will be happy if this includes Network+ option like in EMUI 4 which increases network stability.
Also enable type of network connection made(like 2G,3G,4G/LTE) by the device on the top of network bars .
Even though we have finger print sensor to unlock I like to have double tap to wake the screen .Currently just to check notifications or time we need to unlock the screen.But if we have DT2W it wont be the case.
I know above three options can be enabled by a simple build prop edit which I made in my older devices. But I want them to include in the core.
In addition to above
I would like to have
1.Slow motion setter
2.Square cut
3.Auto enhancement based on surrounding as it has AI and NPU
4.Extreme zoom
5.HDR+ mode
6.Low light enhancement
7.Auto noise cancellor.
8.Setting up aspect ratio with different resolution
9.Photo scanner to digitalize printed old photos.
10.Gif animation creator after shooting burst photos.
11.Slow motion setter
12.Frame rate setting while shooting videos
I love the shining color of this phone, the fact that has a fingerprint on the front, a very good camera implemented with AI perfectly , the hideable notch (remains in all apps), a face unlock and a headphone jack..YESS. The price is perfect for its performace!! For me the AI technology should be implemented for other things (not only for the camera). Should be improved even the battery ( i think can be solved with an update) and the gestures with the fingerprint sensor that sometimes does not recognize it. Loving this phone, want to have it!! Thanks for reading!!
I like AI camera & the color spectrum on the back panel.
Honor
i Have Honor 7 I like all of it
honor 10 is the best update of me
Likes : *AI* cameraaa , Honor design <3 and Battery :victory:
want to improve : Photo Processing , display ppi density and move fingerprint in back again for more features :cyclops:
I really like the look of this phone.
The screen looks amazing, and the fact that I can still use a fingerprint unlock.
I'm not a fan of the notch, but I have not yet had the opportunity to use a phone for any length of time with a notch, so hopefully this will give me that chance
Huawei is an uprising brand in the world of technology. If they Keep working like this soon people will forget that Samsung Exist
Things to be added:
AOD (Always on Display)
More Fingerprint gestures.
Better Pro Camera Shot (At Average for now)
Support for more PPI and Screen Scales
The things that I
Like the Most:
Battery 3400 mAh Hell enough to get through the day
Fast Charge
Storage and RAM
Processing with new generation processors
The Latest Android
& The cool dimensions and shape of the phone
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I absolutely love the lock screen that shows the earth and moon in sync with realtime. And you can check notifications this way, swipe them away if you want, and when you put the phone down it will go to sleep immediately! And it will wake when you pick it up. Nice little touches.
It's great. Fast, bluetooth is working, sound quality is great, feels so premium, battery seems like it's doing well, the screen is magnificient, the camera fast and accurate. For a phone without OIS, I was pleased my little parakeet running up my arm could be captured sharply, she never stops moving.
So far, day one? I'm in love.
Real review
- super hard to unlock bootloader
- very easy to root then, with OTA and everything staying (main difference vs Samsung - no OTA, no bluetooth, no encryption etc)
- no Lockdown feature, even with external activities
- there's no SD card and TWRP doesn't support USB, so you're broke when travelling, USB flash with flashfiles won't help
- absolutely bloated, incl. chiness apps even in EU version (need to disable all *xiaomi* and *mi* apps, firewall the rest)
- they override every app, every dialog, and modify even innocent com.android packages, so it's super hard to debloat
- insane settings, too much and not easy to read. Easily the hardest to set phone ever
- many of those million settings simply don't work, especially permissions, lot of glitches like double power key to flash is blocked by screen off action
- example of stupidy is battery section, have to click so much to see the chart and there's no % anywhere! Basic value. Like you virtually have no chance to know %, unless you set such status icon. why not reveal % when expanding notification menu like other models?
- some settings are strong, like complex Data limits, AI remapping, call recording available without hack etc
- "AI" button easily programmable via Xposed
- nice to have apps like Music and Video which vanilla OxygenOS skips, but they're weak and no DLNA which is advertised
- volume buttons on the right? excellent, never ever could touch those on the left easily. However no easy shortcut for Dont Disturb (only the stupid long press to mute just ONE volume) and no activity for it available (to let Xposed handle it).. OnePlus wins with the dedicated button easily
- data collection and privacy agreements virtually everywhere, in any simple app (that's why AOSP would be lovely choice instead of XIAOMI ROM)
- battery life is insane when active (like pure 10 "configuration day" hours or 7.5hr with 31hr overall), got mediocre in standby after configuration (no good kernel exists, stock kernel is crap, not aware of deep doze, so pushing Naptime and Servicely at least, so far pushed it to est 78hr wifi_standby vs 178hr standby on 6T! update: pushed it to 267hr in a quick test, but real test req full charge and >3hr standby to be meaningful, anyway potential is there), still early to say what will be final 3g and wifi standby (in progress)
- notification ecosystem is very good (except by default they disabled notifications for most apps!), you can customize popups, AOD magic light (however AOD won't show any app icon for me), and the LED make sure you know about notification or charging (and charging produces very nice animation - very important for Qi to know you place phone right!)
- AOD exists unlike in OnePlus, and in battery app its got its own category
- overall fast, currently the fastest phone on market
- yet another Pie implementation of navbar with some crazy gestures from the left/right which collide with its own GBoard gestures (still the Oreo task manager was better)
- QC charging is fast and supports QC2-3-4 (that is very very good unlike properietary OnePlus charging, who's got OnePlus chargers around? Noone. Who's got QC chargers? Many), fast Qi not working on legacy chargers (not a showstopper as i like slow charge to treat battery right, and will have one 27W Qi for urgency)
- super fast face unlock during day, poor during night just like 6T as there's no infra, however 6T can raise identification chance to 100% with ugly but working display flash
- unreliable fingerprint unlock (same as on 6T, doesn't work in 50% cases and won't autolearn nothing)
- looks much better and less bulkier than 6T even in supplied cover. also 12g lighter but still heavy unlike sweetspot-weight champions S10 (157g) and S10e (150g)
- notch is bad, it cannot disappear smart like on 6T (with status bar still on, yes the newest versions adds change of shape - useless), to add to insult, the cutting of corners is wrong (prepare to see ugly fullscreen with different type of corner rounding)
- camera is poor in dark, no night mode (6T night mode is awesome)
- no IP certification, but ok to clean under water, not ok to immerse as the rubber in SIM card is poor quality, however display to phone is stuffed with branded water sealing solution
- camera is raised a lot, will scratch (the sapphire nonsense doesn't work)
- night mode renders some gfx unreadable, but this is problem with every android phone
- screen is nice, and super bright if needed
Overall hardware is no brainer for the price, software is total crap.
doggydog2 said:
- super hard to unlock bootloader
- there's no SD card and TWRP doesn't support USB, so you're broke when travelling, USB flash with flashfiles won't help
- absolutely bloated, incl. chiness apps even in EU version (need to disable all *xiaomi* and *mi* apps, firewall the rest)
- they override every app, every dialog, and modify even innocent com.android packages, so it's super hard to debloat
- insane settings, too much and not easy to read. Easily the hardest to set phone ever
- example of stupidy is battery section, have to click so much to see the chart and there's no % anywhere! Basic value. Like you virtually have no chance to know %, unless you set such status icon. why not reveal % when expanding notification menu like other models?
- unreliable fingerprint unlock (same as on 6T, doesn't work in 50% cases and won't autolearn nothing)
- camera is poor in dark, no night mode (6T night mode is awesome)
- camera is raised a lot, will scratch (the sapphire nonsense doesn't work)
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Well a nice feedback list, I just try to keep some points to clarify/to propose another perspective from another users to help others
- there's no SD card and TWRP doesn't support USB, so you're broke when travelling, USB flash with flashfiles won't help --> This is not really a problem to many users, just find a computer and not many people really have a need to do anything flashing without a computer.
- absolutely bloated, incl. chiness apps even in EU version (need to disable all *xiaomi* and *mi* apps, firewall the rest) --> Just put all those apps to a folder to forget it, and don't use them. easy, it doesn't take that much space. In EU rom, there's very few apps like that, and I can avoid them completely without removing or de-bloating them.
- insane settings, too much and not easy to read. Easily the hardest to set phone ever --> I found no problem this, you just change the one you need, in English there's nothing seems difficult to understand, at least to me.
- there's no % anywhere! Basic value. Like you virtually have no chance to know %, unless you set such status icon. why not reveal % when expanding notification menu like other models? --> just turn % battery on that just one tick.
- unreliable fingerprint unlock (same as on 6T, doesn't work in 50% cases and won't autolearn nothing) --> It works 80% number of times for me, of course, can't compete with real physical fingerprint, but definitely not 50% for me.
- camera is poor in dark, no night mode (6T night mode is awesome) --> Defaut camera has night mode, + Google camera is a much better choice
- camera is raised a lot, will scratch (the sapphire nonsense doesn't work) --> Yep, buy a camera glass protector + a case with the higher back which protect the camera
Some info hopes can help others as well.
It's weird that there are actually alternative ROMs, kernels, but not published here. Just installed the kernel with lovely wakelocks disabled. Hope it helps the terrible battery life.
The Xiaomi software is the worst seen while on XDA, cannot imagine it's even worse in non-EU version. Already thinking how life was easy with "configure and forget" 6T except omission of QC, QI and LED diod, which are the huge hardware advantages i'm dying for.
To make this phone usable, one needs to get rid of the software. The horror called MIUI. However switching to vanilla ROM brings common problems like on Samsung (Bluetooth not working, limited fingerpint, limited camera, no OTA). So the best would be heavily debloated ROM published here, injecting some vanilla stuff back. I'd remove Pemission manager, Security manager, clouds. Good luck!
Extra bizzare behaviour:
- if you don't set float notifications for the app, they will never show up (disabled for all by default so have to click hundred times just to change this settings, and another thousand clicks to recover other choices), however if you turn it on, they float notifications will be forced! (like VPN starting, navigation starting - events that never show up as popups)
- if you click clean memory from Security manager, battery manager or even "X" button in task manager, it will kill ALL apps (incl. apps which have highest priority due to notification, incl. VPN!) - how insane can this be?
- DLNA proudly in spec, but their apps can't cast or read UPNP folders, while all others can. But at least they can connect to Alibaba servers...
- nonstop popups about app going full screen (while there's no visual difference! already navbar gone because of Pie gesture setting)
- nonstop popups about downloading files on 3G (they had to touch this sacred group of processes too - Media+Download manager)
- you can change notification bar Setting icon to Search icon, feature mimicking the best Samsung's tool "Finder" except this one is weaker but with ad/spyware . Not only it won't trigger search but also you can't get to settings anymore (what if you don't have Settings icon in app launcher? reflash ROM?)
- boot keyboard.. are you kidding me.. unresponsive, hardly can type password there.. Shift equals Caps lock. Tt behaves like TWRP keyboard, don't type more than 1 character per second
I absolutely love Xiaomi devices but don't use them until I install xiaomi.eu rom. Of course you need to unlock it first and install TWRP but it's a must to get rid of some of the annoying things you wrote on your list. The roms are great and I use it on all of my Xiaomi devices. Check it out: https://xiaomi.eu/community/link-forums/roms-download.73/
razor_amd said:
I absolutely love Xiaomi devices but don't use them until I install xiaomi.eu rom. Of course you need to unlock it first and install TWRP but it's a must to get rid of some of the annoying things you wrote on your list. The roms are great and I use it on all of my Xiaomi devices. Check it out: https://xiaomi.eu/community/link-forums/roms-download.73/
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The xiaomi.eu is so much better than the stock ROM ?
ManuBBXX said:
The xiaomi.eu is so much better than the stock ROM ?
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It is the same thing. but the developer version it has no ads, no bloat, clean and fast.
Here is the version that I use, scroll down the page and choose which options you want. This is a custom rom based on the latest Xiaomi.eu developer rom. The only difference is that you can add root and adblock.
https://mi-globe.com/rom-builder-features/?id=18&codename=cepheus&phone=Mi+9
@doggydog2 several things on your list are not correct. You are stating the USB OTG doesn't work? ( It does work) Spend some more time understanding how Miui works and then you will be able to cross off most of your list. Also you would be better off using the developer rom, or the Mi-Globe rom listed above.
tsongming said:
It is the same thing. but the developer version it has no ads, no bloat, clean and fast.
Here is the version that I use, scroll down the page and choose which options you want. This is a custom rom based on the latest Xiaomi.eu developer rom. The only difference is that you can add root and adblock.
https://mi-globe.com/rom-builder-features/?id=18&codename=cepheus&phone=Mi+9
@doggydog2 several things on your list are not correct. You are stating the USB OTG doesn't work? ( It does work) Spend some more time understanding how Miui works and then you will be able to cross off most of your list. Also you would be better off using the developer rom, or the Mi-Globe rom listed above.
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no OTG in TWRP that's valid except one recovery ppl avoid as it's Chinese. It's a huge deal especially when you have a device without SD card. Just today had to escape home early to recover the phone..what a new way to operate.
After hundreds of flashes, test of all available ROMs (except this one), recoveries, kernels and full functional check on this particular phone i've a good overview. Overall Xiaomi is a very outdated, over modified bloated ugly software. They should start from the scratch to be honest. Yes 10 years ago ppl would celebrate their extra functions, but today it's intrusive, useless or duplicit. That's why unique Samsung features are now dead (multiwindow etc) as Android implemented it. Xiaomi insists on their irrational UI, worst Settings UI hierarchy in the industry and replacement of everything. There's literally nothing innovative in the UI except single functional extra - data usage control - and you get more functions in AOSP. Few non-innovative things to like? Sure, notif lights, charging animations, call recorder not hidden.. But that's nothing new. The stuff like disabling all notifications and auto starts until users enables it, is insane. Memory management is a joke. Overriding all system dialogs is pathetic. Inserting wait times in confirmation popups is aggressive. Intrusive download manager is good just to block desired downloads from Google etc. Fantastic Pie features (QuickStep, switch apps by navbar) are disabled. Minimal difference in Global vs EU version spotted, i'd prefer global one and delete few extra spy/bloat/malwares myself just because of the ugly icons.
But anyway, I like that webpage. Thanks. It's cool to cook a ROM. Wished the updates were via OTA and directly from OS. They rip some more crap off, which is so much needed in Xiaomi phones. The question is: does mi-globe keep modified 3rd party app icons like Xiaomi.EU? Does Magisk18.1 work? I'd like to try luck with version 18 to improve battery life.
doggydog2 said:
no OTG in TWRP that's valid except one recovery ppl avoid as it's Chinese. It's a huge deal especially when you have a device without SD card. Just today had to escape home early to recover the phone..what a new way to operate.
After hundreds of flashes, test of all available ROMs (except this one), recoveries, kernels and full functional check on this particular phone i've a good overview. Overall Xiaomi is a very outdated, over modified bloated ugly software. They should start from the scratch to be honest. Yes 10 years ago ppl would celebrate their extra functions, but today it's intrusive, useless or duplicit. That's why unique Samsung features are now dead (multiwindow etc) as Android implemented it. Xiaomi insists on their irrational UI, worst Settings UI hierarchy in the industry and replacement of everything. There's literally nothing innovative in the UI except single functional extra - data usage control - and you get more functions in AOSP. Few non-innovative things to like? Sure, notif lights, charging animations, call recorder not hidden.. But that's nothing new. The stuff like disabling all notifications and auto starts until users enables it, is insane. Memory management is a joke. Overriding all system dialogs is pathetic. Inserting wait times in confirmation popups is aggressive. Intrusive download manager is good just to block desired downloads from Google etc. Fantastic Pie features (QuickStep, switch apps by navbar) are disabled. Minimal difference in Global vs EU version spotted, i'd prefer global one and delete few extra spy/bloat/malwares myself just because of the ugly icons.
But anyway, I like that webpage. Thanks. It's cool to cook a ROM. Wished the updates were via OTA and directly from OS. They rip some more crap off, which is so much needed in Xiaomi phones. The question is: does mi-globe keep modified 3rd party app icons like Xiaomi.EU? Does Magisk18.1 work? I'd like to try luck with version 18 to improve battery life.
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I don't have time at the moment to address every point you make in detail. But I wanted to respond with a couple of brief suggestions that hopefully help. When I first tried Miui, I also hated it. But, I ended up trying it again and again via custom roms and eventually grew to love it. Many of the quirks have a workarounds, and some things that seem to be missing can be found deep in device settings, developer options, or app settings. You can often find some good info using the Mi Community app.
First full disclosure, I have a Mi8, my brother is the one with the Mi9. He travels alot for work and isn't very technically adept, so he is mostly fine with his phone as it is. As you know the Mi 9 is still so new and many of the stock AOSP features will be available to you when custom roms arrive...it will not be long.
The OTG issue that you are experiencing is tied to the version of TWRP that you are using. OTG will end up working and apparently it does work with some versions. I would guess that you are already experimenting on your own to find the right one.
Since no official version yet exists here is one that I found that supposedly works well : https://mega.nz/#!CH5jgYTB!yNqOiVoo3cf0_15jIwZ-btO52cvpOG7iZrRCe19V2Nc and Here is another one: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79431805&postcount=215
Unfortunately, you will have to wait for a highly stable TWRP to become available that is able to survive through updates and remain in tact. We had these types of issues with the Mi8 as well, and I have had similar issues with my previous phone. But eventually things should work as expected.
I don't know how well you know Miui, some of the things you are missing can probably be activated deep within settings. For example, if you turn off Miui Optimization within developer options you can the install and use your missing Pie features. Such as https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.wellbeing&hl=en_US
I use gestures instead of the NavBar, now that I have become used to it I can't stand using buttons. Also, I do get notified of OTA updates while using the Mi-Globe rom. I can select the rom to download automatically > about phone> system update settings. Once I receive that notification, I will usually manually go to the Mi-Globe page and download their updated version, and dirty flash it over the previous version. Occasionally I will need to reflash Root. But most of the time it persists. I keep a magisk flashed backup boot image in downloads just in case.
I use Magisk 19 Canary and have never had issues with root.
Good Luck
tsongming said:
Since no official version yet exists here is one that I found that supposedly works well : https://mega.nz/#!CH5jgYTB!yNqOiVoo3cf0_15jIwZ-btO52cvpOG7iZrRCe19V2Nc and Here is another one: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79431805&postcount=215
Unfortunately, you will have to wait for a highly stable TWRP to become available that is able to survive through updates and remain in tact. We had these types of issues with the Mi8 as well, and I have had similar issues with my previous phone. But eventually things should work as expected.
I don't know how well you know Miui, some of the things you are missing can probably be activated deep within settings. For example, if you turn off Miui Optimization within developer options you can the install and use your missing Pie features. Such as https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.wellbeing&hl=en_US
I use gestures instead of the NavBar, now that I have become used to it I can't stand using buttons. Also, I do get notified of OTA updates while using the Mi-Globe rom. I can select the rom to download automatically > about phone> system update settings. Once I receive that notification, I will usually manually go to the Mi-Globe page and download their updated version, and dirty flash it over the previous version. Occasionally I will need to reflash Root. But most of the time it persists. I keep a magisk flashed backup boot image in downloads just in case.
I use Magisk 19 Canary and have never had issues with root.
Good Luck
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Thanks for a good reply.
Yes TWRP situation is tight right now, with "xiaomi9" vs "cepheus" errors, variety of gapps errors etc.. Testing all of them. Good to know this beta exists, i missed this recent info even when active on forums currently. I tried now and it looks great. Luckily on this phone encrypted sdcard doesn't cause any problem with flashing, so i'm ok to wait for TWRP updates.
I agree the full screen gestures are fantastic, i used them on Note9, 6T and Mi9. All of these phones customize original Pie navigation. Once i saw the original behaviour in AOSP ROM, the Pie task manager "Recents" with "QuickStep", and the navbar, i enabled buttons as this is so productive.. Scroll through full screen app previews back and forth, or swipe up app drawer from any app, hmmm. So cool.
Alright, OTA looks great. Although I believe OS doesn't know about your customization, so you better go to the webpage to decide which package to download.
I'm going to try this ROM. I'm not a gfx guy, i hardly ever used a wallpaper, but i really don't like the EU changes to app icons system-wide. I just can't look at 10 year old shortcut like TitaniumBackup looking different. Please let me know if you are aware of a fix. Thanks.
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Thanks for a good reply.
Yes TWRP situation is tight right now, with "xiaomi9" vs "cepheus" errors, variety of gapps errors etc.. Testing all of them. Good to know this beta exists, i missed this recent info even when active on forums currently. I tried now and it looks great. Luckily on this phone encrypted sdcard doesn't cause any problem with flashing, so i'm ok to wait for TWRP updates.
I agree the full screen gestures are fantastic, i used them on Note9, 6T and Mi9. All of these phones customize original Pie navigation. Once i saw the original behaviour in AOSP ROM, the Pie task manager "Recents" with "QuickStep", and the navbar, i enabled buttons as this is so productive.. Scroll through full screen app previews back and forth, or swipe up app drawer from any app, hmmm. So cool.
Alright, OTA looks great. Although I believe OS doesn't know about your customization, so you better go to the webpage to decide which package to download.
I'm going to try this ROM. I'm not a gfx guy, i hardly ever used a wallpaper, but i really don't like the EU changes to app icons system-wide. I just can't look at 10 year old shortcut like TitaniumBackup looking different. Please let me know if you are aware of a fix. Thanks.
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I forgot to mention DM verity, you can get it and read about it here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/universal-dm-verity-forceencrypt-t3817389.
Regarding the OTA, in my case it usually pretty seamless since Mi-Globe is based on the EU weekly build. ( I prefer these builds because they have more features and zero ads) However, the Global Stable to Weekly or vice versa usually requires a little more work. But you are correct, I want to know for a fact what I am flashing so I will usually just manually download the update if using the Mi-Globe build.
Backup
I haven't had alot of luck with using Titanium backup recently on any of my phones that have recent Pie roms. I remember reading something about it being due to some changes Google made with security in late February? However, the built in Local Backup has worked for me every single time except once. It will backup all apps, and many of the settings not covered by Google restore. Its my main source of restoring settings and for me works better than Titanium backup. There is also the option of using Mi-Cloud ( which I also use redundantly) Then of course we can sometimes restore a TWRP backup data.
There are several other options, including free options that are similar to Titanium backup. Programs such as Migrate I have not used it yet. but I have read that it works. Like the Miui Local backup, Migrate supposedly restores everything. Including apps, that are not from the playstore, apps data and even flashed system apps such as Pixel/Sony/Samsung Live Wallpapers and then the remaining Google restore just takes a couple of minutes
Running global MIUI now. the Battery life is great.
The cooked version with Magisk 18 indeed doesn't work. Just upgrade to v19.
QuickStep magisk plugin doesn't work, i keep trying even if it looks like first OS must be able to provide Pie functionality, then you can tweak. Therefore: AOSP only Stuck with this
XiaomiEU app icons can be removed here: non-destructively rename /system/media/theme/miui_mod_icons (thanksgod)
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Also, I do get notified of OTA updates while using the Mi-Globe rom. I can select the rom to download automatically > about phone> system update settings.
Good Luck
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didn't find this setting, instead i was offered with xiaomi_eu version from today so i downloaded and pressed install which is quite comfortable. The only glitch is need to wait til TWRP installation is done and press Vol+ button (new Magisk 19.1 feature since today) to root with dedicated TWRP button 'Install root' (comfy). Then do some maintenance as many permissions are reset. Luckily disabled apps stay disabled. I'd like to script this and stick to xiaomi_eu as practically there's just miuidaemon extra feature in miglobal.
two problems:
- "can't connect to camera" for portrait mode in stock cam
- TWRP sees unencrypted files, other TWRPs won't boot
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It is the same thing. but the developer version it has no ads, no bloat, clean and fast.
Here is the version that I use, scroll down the page and choose which options you want. This is a custom rom based on the latest Xiaomi.eu developer rom. The only difference is that you can add root and adblock.
https://mi-globe.com/rom-builder-features/?id=18&codename=cepheus&phone=Mi+9
@doggydog2 several things on your list are not correct. You are stating the USB OTG doesn't work? ( It does work) Spend some more time understanding how Miui works and then you will be able to cross off most of your list. Also you would be better off using the developer rom, or the Mi-Globe rom listed above.
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This mi-globe rom seems insane !!
Great for the money but with software bugs that affect the usability. Video stuttering at 30fps and notifications issues.
As always, MIUI is the problem from a Xiaomi device.
4 me, xiaomi.eu is not an option, since they use chinese builds as a basis. If anyone known a project similar to him, but based in global ROMs, I appreciate it. Tks!
I think the MI9 is the best phone out there because of
1. Software (it rocks, especially RevolutionOS debloated)
2. Camera (the best one on the market as of now)
3. Performance/Display
4. The notch (I feel uncomfortable having retractable camera + I think a waterdrop notch looks sick)
It charges really fast and battery time is pretty good! Amazing phone for 400€!
Bought mine for 300£ the 128gb version. At that price could have bought a oneplus 6 but this phone is amazing. Compared to the oneplus 7pro the size is great and performance is really good. Will definitely buy again. The only pain is having to wait for the bootloader unlock!
Bought mine 6/128 Gt version at 498 € price. After a week I decided to switch to xiaomi.eu rom and with some additional tweaks (debloating with Xiaomi ADB/FastBoot Tool) I start to feel that the software starts to match with the hardware. I love the design, it feels comfortable in your hands (I use the soft case what was delivered with the phone) and with the tweaks it feels quite snappy and powerful tool for everyday tasks. MIUI mostly sucks but luckily you can use Nova launcher. I've been satisfied with the camera at this point (especially with the ultra wide lens) but I think it can still be improved and I should give a try for the GoogleCam as well.