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Does anyone know if a app, like the ccleaner for windows is available for android?
Now I know that android is linux based, therefore there is no need for a registry cleaner, but with the constant install and then removal of apps (now i am assuming here) there must be some sort of footprint left behind which needs deleting?
thanks for any help and advice
eh...the only thing I could think of is maybe "CacheMate"
Neejay said:
eh...the only thing I could think of is maybe "CacheMate"
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I second Cachemate. Been using it for months now and finally bought the "Pro" version. More like donation-ware. It was especially useful when I felt I was running out of space after app installs; however, now that I'm running an AOSP rom and have the option of using Apps2SD, space on the phone is less scarce. Either way, I run it every now and then to clean things up, particularly before making a Nandroid backup.
i am not sure if this is right because i am also quite new to android, but:
android is not windows. When you install a programm there is one .apk.. probably it creates a folder on the sd.. thats it. There is no registry, programms do not mess around @ system files.
Uninstalling means deleting the apk.. perhaps you have to remove the folder @ sdcard yourself.. thats all i guess.
I installed a couple of roms without wiping and many many apps, and my system is still clean what i can see (and fast like on the first day..)
nice one!!
Thanks for that, i'll download CacheMate and have a look.
Cachemate is good, but Titanium really works (root needed)
I paid for Titanium because my brand new Samsung Galaxy S 4G started having low phone storage on the first day. Couldn't move a bunch of stuff, so I just did Superoneclick and rooted it, then installed Titanium. I was able to free up space on the phone itself (it's loaded with bloatware) by moving some stuff, but it also has a cache cleaner that got rid of another 25 MB of data that I didn't need. So, short story is, if you just need to clean you cache, cachemate is probably fine, but if you need more robust options for system maintenance, consider Titanium.
Well when you uninstall an application you not only have the .apk in /data/app/ but the application data in /data/data/ which is removed when you properly uninstall the application, not just deleting the apk. The "cache" you are seeing is browser, maps etc. data. You can manually do this in application manager by clicking the name then clear cache.
The only extra data you might have would be if the application has data on the sdcard which I find most applications do not remove if it's an external download such as skins. So there really is no need for any type of cleaning tools, none of which would clean out anything on /system/ unless it's a rooted application so there should be no need for that.
i tried cachemate and i can say that phone was reborn after it... it started to fly... 13 mb was cleared...
There was a another app called aCCleaner. It's even better
http://www.appbrain.com/app/1tap-cache-cleaner-free/com.a0soft.gphone.acc.free
If your device is rooted then you can try out SD Maid.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013063
It deletes leftover folders from uninstalled apps from the SD card.
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Cachemate never seems to work for me. It always say my cache has been recently cleared and there is nothing to clean although I didnt set it on auto or clean it before. Werid.
Why looking for alternatives if you can try CCleaner on your Android device, try this link http://goo.gl/TIR4pk as its in beta, but still its working fine. If you still want to CCleaner like alternatives for android try this link http://goo.gl/LMmUho
Might be this help you
Do not use applications that might spoil the phone ... after all, remember that Android is based on Linux. so it is already Optimized for his trial ... try CacheMate.
Try clean master. It's pretty good!
-Omkar
This has been bothering me for quite a while, so I conjured a little story to help sooth my frustration.
Lets say my Android device is the new tenant of a nicely formated loft, this loft being 16gb of square space. To commemorate this new exciting space my device throws a house party. Most of the Apps he invites are pretty well behaved, but some start spilling drinks, then puking on the carpet, then having an orgy, then bukkake-ing the root directory. After discovering such acts, the device politely requests the disruptive guests force quit and leave. "I need more space on my phone." the device replied as each questioned on their way out. To his disbelief, NONE of the Apps cleaned up their mess! Even worse it seems some of the classier Apps, though more organized seem to have been influenced too. Unfortunately the device is forced to live with it, as the police force stopped responding to calls in his neighborhood. One man tries, but it always returns to a mess.
I hope that entertained someone.
i know exactly how you feel... there is at least 7 unused folders just wasting space on my phone. not to mention random mp3's hidden deep within my phone...
PhxkinMassacre said:
i know exactly how you feel... there is at least 7 unused folders just wasting space on my phone. not to mention random mp3's hidden deep within my phone...
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I hope you understand about the unused folders and NOT the bukkake-ing!!
hello, nice story!
I won't say that I am even close to being a developer but I do develop some apps and the thing that I wan't to point out is that apps do not run when they are installed or uninstalled. It's not each application job to clear up the mess it may have created but package manager's which apparently leaves some files be just in case you would like to reinstall the app later(?)...
I would propose to look for a more efficient package manager or doorman/janitor for your loft
That's why I don't invite the guy whos only existence is to make farting noises!
Very good point. However, one thing I don't know is if uninstalling through the market cleans up the SD card better than using a third party mass uninstall app. Something you may want to experiment with.
Back at it again...
Here I am again, and I still don't flippin get it!
After reading some of your comments I realized my main point kind of got glazed over(no pun intended @Scudderb)
My big issue is that there's no hierarchy in place for this crap. In windows, program files are stored in the 'Program Files' directory. In Android (and I credit google and the developers for this sloppy BS) Apps are just throwing all their **** in with my stuff on the ROOT.
How is this acceptable. Seriously, HOW? And if its all cache files and/or temporary documents than WHY THE **** ISN'T ALL THIS CRAP BEING PUT INTO A TEMP/CACHE FOLDER.
I'm PISSED! Why does every app I install get to put their own folder on the ROOT WITH the FOLDERS and FILES that actually matter to me ex: like my music, pictures, movies, documents (OH and by the way, a lot of apps developers do a REALLY ****ty job with their NAMING CONVENTIONS so the folders being created may or may not even look related to the app that put it there!)
::end rant::
My apologies for the colorful language, folder structure and hierarchy are something I design as a web designer so when I see this crap going on in my phone like the inmates are running the asylum... I get angry.
Today I was cleaning up my SD card for the umteen'th time, and found that Foursquare was dumping its temp files directly onto the root of my directory. I blew my top and had to get it out of my system... so..
A MESSAGE TO ALL THE APPS PULLING THESE SHENANIGANS: GROW UP!
The problem here is that it's hard to do it right
For custom data, files are supposed to be saved into "/data/data/com.appname/blah" (that's from the top of my head, could differ slightly). That's the directory to use for data files, but there's one big issue with it: it's on the internal memory storage. We all know that internal memory on Android (without custom ROMs) is.. limited. That's probably why most devs are using SD for larger files.
There's also the "Android/data/com.package_name.blah/blah" directory on the SD card. This directory should be used by apps to store files into and is automatically deleted when the user removes the associated app (but only when you're running Froyo or greater).
The issue with this approach is that users (and developers too, when testing the app) will lose all their data when removing an old version of a specific app. Let's say there's a bug with the Market again and the app suddenly gets uninstalled. User will have to reinstall, result: data will be all gone. That's only one of the many doom scenarios.
I can't speak for other developers, but that's more or less the reason why I started to use a common directory outside of the preferred ones when I was doing apps. It's not a great situation, I fully agree. But would you rather have your data accidentally deleted?
If anyone knows a good way to get around this issue, I'd love to know more about it...
orly
Thanks for the reply @Stripeymilk
I can think of multiple solutions:
#1 Development community adopts a universal directory for files deemed 'User' or 'Save' data that should be stored for future use. (or Google creates this for developers)
#2 Development community adopts the practice of allowing users to pick the directory users want to store an apps data in. (prompt at app's first start)
#3 Store files/data in the cloud.
#4 Users dump trash in the lobbys/living-rooms of developer's and see how quickly they find a solution.
#5 USE THE "Android/data/com.package_name.blah/" FOLDER WHEN ALL YOU'RE REALLY DOING IS STORING CACHE/TEMP FILES!!!
BOTTOM LINE: Its not hard to do it right, Its just hard to get people to do it.
You make it sound so easy
1) I'm all for it, but Google needs to put its weight behind an approach like that because otherwise people will say "I like /Data better than /data or /Mydata or /MyData". It's a bit like coding conventions: everyone wants to be different.
2) Good for techy people, not so good for "normal" users. Could make it easier with a small "file manager", but that's too much work for indie devs. Could be a nice idea for a new open source project though.
3) Great idea, could actually work if the associated account would be created automatically (like in Cut the Rope for Android with Scoreloop), but:
- The backup functionality in Android for storing data in the cloud is available for API level 8 and greater, making it of not so much use when you're targeting API level 5 or 6 and greater. Could be fixed by using something like Google Storage combined with Jets3t instead, but that would be useless for apps written in C++, like many games are.
- Cloud storage isn't free. Developers can't pay for that as it would be too expensive. If every Android user would've gotten free cloud storage from Google it could be a nice alternative, but (yeah, there's always a but) most current users don't have that.
4) If you're prepared to send your trash by plane to another country, go for it!
5) Agreed. Useful for temp data.
I'm not trying to make it sound easy, believe me I know how it isn't. I'm trying to make it sound simple, because really.. it is...
In response:
1) I agree and this is exactly what I mean by the real hard part is getting people to do it. This requires widespread endorsement by developers big and small - that this is a 'best practice' that should be adhered to. I think the gate swings both ways though.
example: Twitter didn't invent hash tags, their users did, and with its widespread adoption, Twitter adopted/implemented it too.
2) Another good point, though this process can be curated to drive the user in the right direction (holding their hand). The XBOX 360 does this for every game you play, the first thing it does is ask you which storage device you want to use for game saves.
example: in combination with solution # 1, the default folder the app saves to could be '/data/theAppsName' and the prompt could say "This app saves files to your SD CARD in '/data/theAppName'. Would you like to choose a new location?" [Yes] [No] [?]. The [Yes] option brings up a simple file manager, the [No] option uses that location, the [?] option brings up an easy to understand write up on what its asking and why its asking it.
3) We'll get there eventually, my point really was if you've got the resources, why not. Its a solution better than #1 and #2
4) I plan on sending human clones to create trash individually and exponentially
5) AMIRITE~!
In all seriousness though, thank you @Stripeymilk for taking the time to go in depth and have a conversation about this. I seriously think it doesn't take an act of Godogle to solve this (to what I beleive) is a big issue!
I can't agree more with you.
As developer (Windows, iSeries) I try to make my programs as structured and readable as possible. The same goes for the files and folders used used by the programs, but sadly, even with all the available resources, some people (colleagues) make a complete mess of it, cause "that's not/less important", as long as the program does what it's intended to do ...
It's all about the resources and people using them the right way!
Cool, didn't know about the hash tags on Twitter
Well, we're on a great site here with developers on it. If everyone here would adhere to the same standard, it could at least be a nice push to make the Android SD card world a better place.
What's the directory we're going to settle on? Any pros and cons?
So, I thought we could make a thread for what apps you find most useful, that let you accomplish the most throughout your day..
Apps which help you with your workflow from Work to Home
Apps that would make you feel hindered, slowed-down, or less productive if you didnt have them
Apps without which you'd feel you'd have alot more work to do, or have less hours in your day to get things done
Whether you're a Traditional Artist, a Digital Artist, a Graphic Artist, a Fashion Designer, an Interior Designer, an Architect, a DB Engineer, an IT administrator, a Program Developer, if you're in Marketing or Advertising, if you're a Business Owner, a Company Manager, Office Staff, a Landscaper, a Florist, or whatever job you have.. Please share the apps you find most helpful
It could include anything from your favorite Graphics or Sketch program, a Calendar or Contacts Manager, a Daily Planner, a Financial Management Program, a Employee Scheduling program, a useful Programmer's notepad, or anything else you'd like to contribute
This also includes apps which you feel make your Android itself a more effective & Efficient device, such as task managers, button manager, switchers, or you own app workflows, or anything else..
This is an attempt to compile a list of the most useful Android Apps out there, Free or Paid, that other people could try out, or that you think might help other people increase their own productivity throughout the day or week, using their Android Device
I think we could all use better time management and a bit more free time in our lives
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Seems nice, but, why didn't you start?
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Seems nice, but, why didn't you start?
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Heh.. I'm still looking for some
I currently use ES File Explorer for all my cross-platform File Browsing & File Transferring needs
& I use ES Task Manager for my Task Management.. u know, I've rooted my device, and I've tried alot of task & memory managers, but have yet to find something to tell me whats talking up memory when I get some malicious program that zeros out my memory until restart.. or suddenly occupies hundreds of MB which mystically goes unaccounted for.. I just feel there is still so much going on in my phone I have no control of and i havent found any solid program to give me that control
I use Adblock Plus, but it only works through a proxy, which stops me from seeing things through my Firefox browser... I still havent found a reliable way to block all ads. lets be honest, alot of those freeware apps wouldnt ever be bought even if they only had no ad paid versions.. it seems everything has ads now... and this isnt going to fix it
I use Floating Stickies for cross-app data transfer
I use Screen Off & Lock to conserve battery power & buttons
I use Swapps for fast app switching...Its great, but I'm still searching for something a bit better
I use Hackers Keyboard from Swapps just to switch between one of about 10 inputs I use
Touchpal X is currently my keyboard of choice.. but I dont like how it doesnt suggest most frequently used words.. and I.m not getting a full 26key keyboard for Pinyin either.. I'm currently talking to the devs about that.
I currently use Screenshot Ultimate, but still would like something with area capture, and expandable multi-line textboxes
I use Image Search for finding quick Photos to throw onto my social networking apps, mainly WeChat
and I use Floating Soft Keys for quick navigation, but I wish it would have an option to swipe to disappear off screen
but I'm still looking for a program which displays available memory, includes a list of running apps, end app & minimize app functions (i dont want android managing which apps to leave open or end).. with options to delete Cache of programs on end... also can free RAM, even from malicious programs that suddenly swallow over 200mb... and can let me add my favorite app buttons..
and I'm thinking of purchasing Softmaker for an Office suite, though it lacks Macro functionality and Wildcards in Find & Replace
I currently dont have many other programs, like calendar, time managment, etc.. I sorta recently moved from WinMo to Android. and I'm missing alot of my old WinMo apps to be honest.
-- Maybe a good question for me might be, what apps make you feel you have as much power & control as you had on WinMo, for the oldtimers here
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There are existing threads for this sort of discussion:
[Discussion] Discuss your favorite app, tweak, widget, etc. (Least favorite OK too!)
[23.apr.2013] *COLLECTION OF THE BEST APP/GAMES FOR ANDROID* 165 apps - 200 games!!!
Hey ladies and gentlemen.
Can someone tell me what is the best cleaning app?
And i mean advanced cleaning, not something like clean master and such.
SDmaid is great, but i think it doesn't clean everything.
Many thanks in advance advance and sorry if its wrong section.
By the way i have Xperia Neo running ICS stock rom rooted.
What do you want to clean? You can use the recovery mode to wipe cache and dalvik cache, advanced enough?
Or titanium backup to clear apps data and stuff.
Hope it helps .
I don't know if I have used any cleaning apps specifically. I find that normally just deleting unused applications is generally enough. Everything is sandboxes and fairly self contained. Also never underestimate the size of your image lib. Always good to backup your phone and archive off pictures at the end of each year.
So called cleaner apps are all a joke. I would avoid them. Just do some minor cleaning yourself every now and then.
Cleaner apps do the contradictory action don't download them...
If u want free RAM then use
Greenify [root]
To cleanup the cache use recovery mode..
CCleaner. I got I for free from amazon appstore. It helps with cleaning,with a few clicks you can delete unneeded garbage.
Avoid cleaning apps
I strictly recommends you not to use cleaning apps they eat up more battery and RAM.:silly:
shadowcore said:
CCleaner. I got I for free from amazon appstore. It helps with cleaning,with a few clicks you can delete unneeded garbage.
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This. CCleaner is awesome. Check it out.
Khoga said:
This. CCleaner is awesome. Check it out.
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Those cleaning apps dont do anything other then place ads on your screen. All effects are placebo designed to make noobs think they are doing something great.
zelendel said:
Those cleaning apps dont do anything other then place ads on your screen. All effects are placebo designed to make noobs think they are doing something great.
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Actually, CCleaner has no ads, at least the version I have. Suffice to say, its a useful tool. Less menial work to do, especially when deleting many things at once.
shadowcore said:
Actually, CCleaner has no ads, at least the version I have. Suffice to say, its a useful tool. Less menial work to do, especially when deleting many things at once.
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Have you even looked at what it really does. These types of apps were put to the test years ago. They were found to be mostly pointless as they mainly cleaned up DB files what we're just redone on the next reboot.
And now with Android 5.0 they are even more pointless.
360Antivirus geek. Maybe.
I agree most clean up apps don't do much for you. I do like SD maid as it allows me to toggle whether or not certain apps run at start up, duplicate finder can also be useful at times.
Also use SD Maid to check its file's recommendations out occasionally. Interesting to see and optional to remove...
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SDmaid is great, but i think it doesn't clean everything.
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It's tough to be both thorough and still on the safe side. If you send me a mail regarding what you think was missed i can look into it.
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What do you want to clean? You can use the recovery mode to wipe cache and dalvik cache, advanced enough?
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Dalvik-Cache, the cache partition and app cache is not the same. AFAIK no recovery targets app caches except when doing a factory reset.
IgnitusBoyone said:
I don't know if I have used any cleaning apps specifically. I find that normally just deleting unused applications is generally enough. Everything is sandboxes and fairly self contained. Also never underestimate the size of your image lib. Always good to backup your phone and archive off pictures at the end of each year.
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The sandbox is pretty leaky though. Especially the sdcard is basically a huge free 4 all with developers thinking they are the most important app on the phone and stuffing files everywhere. Then there are also the cases where apps think their data should stick around because you "might" reinstall, who specifically make sure the data is not just deleted on uninstall.
If we put root into the mix, it's all fair game .
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So called cleaner apps are all a joke. I would avoid them. Just do some minor cleaning yourself every now and then.
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"Most" cleaner apps are a joke, but don't put them all in the same bucket . But i do i have to admit that the majority are a joke if not even missleading or straight scummy.
zelendel said:
Have you even looked at what it really does. These types of apps were put to the test years ago. They were found to be mostly pointless as they mainly cleaned up DB files what we're just redone on the next reboot.
And now with Android 5.0 they are even more pointless.
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All the "RAM cleaning stuff" has been pointless since 2.2/2.3. Not sure what you mean that Lollipop has changed further, while external sdcard restrictions have been forced since 3.0 (in reality 4.4) it doesn't completely solve most issues, especially on custom ROMs or rooted devices where the restrictions are often deactivated as they are pretty inconvinient.
I'm not sure what DB files you are talking about, care to elaborate?
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Also use SD Maid to check its file's recommendations out occasionally. Interesting to see and optional to remove...
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Interesting to see indeed, and pretty much how i think it should be used, but people want comfort and rather have the apps make the decision for them. Can't blame em though. Android has lots of room for improvement in that deparment, not easy to solve though. If they change the whole sdcard access system they could track file access of each app and use that data for security and uninstall purposes but i guess that would be difficult to do with the differences between each handsets storage solution. Also brings some performance penalties, and storage access already is one huge bottleneck on Android.
Thank you all for your answers.
I will just keep using SDmaid its best till now.
I dont want Clean master and DuSpeedBooster craps, thanks but no thanks.
Also CCleaner is pretty simple, i think sdmaid is doing better job.
I dont know how to use recovery mode, i never made it.
I am on ICS stock rom rooted, maybe its not even possible for me to go into recovery mode.
Yeah lolipop is great but my phone wont get it and i cant get new phone so Lolipop is nowhere near me.
Cheers
Clean Master
Hi,
I did never own an android device in my life, always a jailbroken iphone. I've made the switch to android and i'm now the happy owner of a note 20 ultra (exynos).
I want to root my device, i kinda know how to do it already, but the more i read about it, the more i get confused...
After al my reading i gathered that this forum is basicly the central point of trusted knowledge regarding android, similar to r/jailbreak.
I still have several questions, which confused me after reading several tutorials;
If i root, i want to preferably use magisk since it is systemless. If rooting with magisk, do u need a custom recovery? What is the benefit of potentially using a custom recovery?
I've read an article about keeping ota updates possible with magisk (whitout custom recovery?), a/b partioning, i've installed magisk just to see the values. These are ramdisk:yes | a/b:no | sar:yes. Does this mean i wont be able to do ota updates since ab value is no? I'm guessing my device doesn't utilize ab partioning?
I know root will trigger several apps to stop working (banking apps, netflix, ...). I know it was kinda possible to circumvent this with magiskhide. I've read some articles that magiskhide isn't supported anymore due to conflict of interest, developer working for google now. Does this mean i won't be able to use these apps triggered by root? Are there alternatives for magiskHide?
Your help would be highly appreciated!
Thank u
Why do you want to root it?
Stock Androids can run very well.
Stock Samsung flagship phones are the most customizable phones on the planet. Good Lock family of apps, hundreds of free themes and icon packs on the Galaxy store.
Android updates can break things... Rule #1 if the firmware is running fast, stable and fulfilling its mission, let it be.
I'm not saying don't root but there are downsides including potentially creating a expensive paperweight. And once the Knox efuse is tripped, it's permanent.
Thank u for your response,
That is exactly why i didn't pull the trigger yet because i don't wan't it to become a paperweight. I wan't to gather more information before doing something i regret.
The reasons i want to root are basicly to enhance some privacy/control while staying on oneUI (kinda like it). Some edExposed modules, a root level firewall, a root level adblocker, enable stock call recording,... Remove some unnessecary services and bloatware (kinda possible with adb), or blocking some connections from services using a root level firewall.
Also as a bonus i would like to play around a little with kali, which is kinda useless without root. In my understanding i do need root to be able to have working drivers for external antennas or hackrf for example.
So i do understand its kinda a tradeoff.
Gain some, lose some.
Im just trying to mitigate the potential losses, by informing me in advance if the loss could be avoided.
Anoo222 said:
Thank u for your response,
That is exactly why i didn't pull the trigger yet because i don't wan't it to become a paperweight. I wan't to gather more information before doing something i regret.
The reasons i want to root are basicly to enhance some privacy/control while staying on oneUI (kinda like it). Some edExposed modules, a root level firewall, a root level adblocker, enable stock call recording,... Remove some unnessecary services and bloatware (kinda possible with adb), or blocking some connections from services using a root level firewall.
Also as a bonus i would like to play around a little with kali, which is kinda useless without root. In my understanding i do need root to be able to have working drivers for external antennas or hackrf for example.
So i do understand its kinda a tradeoff.
Gain some, lose some.
Im just trying to mitigate the potential losses, by informing me in advance if the loss could be avoided.
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Get a good case. The Zizo Bolt offers excellent protection. Without a case this phone will get damaged! The Notes are heavy, corner hitting, face planting fools. Gorilla IQ Sheild is a wet apply screen protector that works well. Both of the above products are inexpensive.
Karma Firewall uses almost no battery and works well, freeware on Playstore.
You can use Package Disabler to block apks and services. Or use adb editing. A lot of the Samsung bloatware just sits there using no resources unless you need it. Randomly disabling these can kill desirable features. Don't use the debloat lists some post; know what each app does before disabling it and its dependencies.
Use ApkExport to make installable copies of all your trusted Android apps and add it to your backups.
Use your SD card slot! Hell yeah, a dual drive PC in your hand.
Get a V30 rated .5-1tb SD card and use it as a data drive. All critical data, backups, pics, media, vids etc, SmartSwitch* backups go here. You can do a full reload from the SD card, no PC or external sources needed. Make sure to redundantly backup the SD card though.
Use the internal memory for loaded apps and the temporary download folder. Regularly transfer the pics in the DCIM folder to a folder on the SD card and that as the primary picture archive (do not name it DCIM!).
More than likely the stock version will need to be optimized to get the most out of it and best battery life. Power management including native and 3rd party ones tend to cause erratic behavior and not address battery drain effectively. Deal with power hogs on a case by case basis instead. Disable all Google, carrier and app feedback. All cloud apps tend to be hogs especially Google. Go through all the Google settings. If you don't use Google Firebase, turn it off.
Pickup the Buds+ or other model, these use the proprietary Samsung SSC codec and work seamlessly with the Note. I still prefer the Buds+ although I had ditch the last Wearables update... hopefully Samsung will fix that soon.
Play with it... it's so much more versatile, customizable and fun than iPhone.
*use to backup homepage settings, contacts and apps. Do not rely on it or use to transfer to a different device or firmware version... it can fail miserably. If it works great, but have other backups ready if it fails. Always back up pics, documents, media etc files separately, cut & paste. Never clone or compress music files/databases as it can remove critical null marks!
blackhawk said:
Get a good case. The Zizo Bolt offers excellent protection. Without a case this phone will get damaged! The Notes are heavy, corner hitting, face planting fools. Gorilla IQ Sheild is a wet apply screen protector that works well. Both of the above products are inexpensive.
Karma Firewall uses almost no battery and works well, freeware on Playstore.
You can use Package Disabler to block apks and services. Or use adb editing. A lot of the Samsung bloatware just sits there using no resources unless you need it. Randomly disabling these can kill desirable features. Don't use the debloat lists some post; know what each app does before disabling it and its dependencies.
Use ApkExport to make installable copies of all your trusted Android apps and add it to your backups.
Use your SD card slot! Hell yeah, a dual drive PC in your hand.
Get a V30 rated .5-1tb SD card and use it as a data drive. All critical data, backups, pics, media, vids etc, SmartSwitch* backups go here. You can do a full reload from the SD card, no PC or external sources needed. Make sure to redundantly backup the SD card though.
Use the internal memory for loaded apps and the temporary download folder. Regularly transfer the pics in the DCIM folder to a folder on the SD card and that as the primary picture archive (do not name it DCIM!).
More than likely the stock version will need to be optimized to get the most out of it and best battery life. Power management including native and 3rd party ones tend to cause erratic behavior and not address battery drain effectively. Deal with power hogs on a case by case basis instead. Disable all Google, carrier and app feedback. All cloud apps tend to be hogs especially Google. Go through all the Google settings. If you don't use Google Firebase, turn it off.
Pickup the Buds+ or other model, these use the proprietary Samsung SSC codec and work seamlessly with the Note. I still prefer the Buds+ although I had ditch the last Wearables update... hopefully Samsung will fix that soon.
Play with it... it's so much more versatile, customizable and fun than iPhone.
*use to backup homepage settings, contacts and apps. Do not rely on it or use to transfer to a different device or firmware version... it can fail miserably. If it works great, but have other backups ready if it fails. Always back up pics, documents, media etc files separately, cut & paste. Never clone or compress music files/databases as it can remove critical null marks!
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Get a good case.
*I've got the led book case, i know it isn't the best protecting case regarding fall damage, but i like the sleek design and combined front&back protection scratch wise.
Karma Firewall uses almost no battery and works well, freeware on Playstore.
* in my understanding all non root firewalls do this by redirecting all network traffic through a local vpn, which then can deny certain domains. I do already use a vpn so that is also a big + on the list why i want to potentially root.
You can use Package Disabler to block apks and services.
*Thank u, i will look into this. Didn't know of its existence yet. Although i now use something as SuperFreezer from fdroid, i don't know if this is similar or not.
Use ApkExport to make installable copies of all your trusted Android apps and add it to your backups.
*Thank u for this new information.
Use your SD card slot!
* I certainly do, this was one of the prerequirements to buy a certain phone. (I was juggling between sony xperia 1 mark 3 and note 20u). Another reason i want to root is, i don't want to use the sd card encryption from android, if my phone bricks, bye data. I want to be able to encrypt/decrypt some data (cross platform)on my sd card with a simple script. A one click script, not to enrypt each folder/file seperatly at it's different locatoin. I wanted to do this creating a simple python script, using openssl, and again after searching out how to do this, i came to the conclusion i needed root for this.
Disable all Google, carrier and app feedback.
*First things first
Pickup the Buds+ or other model, these use the proprietary Samsung SSC codec and work seamlessly with the Note.
*I still own the airpods pro i used with iphone as my convenience buds, and also have a bowers & wilkins over ear when i really want to enjoy the music, they use the apt x codec tho. Is the proprietary SSC codec a big difference? I have no experience with it as i've never had a chance to compare. Would they be worth the price investing in these buds, knowing i own both options mentioned above?
Play with it... it's so much more versatile, customizable and fun than iPhone.
*Thats an understatement, yet i feel like root would enlarge that playground by a lot.
You're welcome.
The 20U should be a really fun phone!
The display is just drop dead gorgeous. Run at 50% brightness or less to lengthen it's lifespan.
I prefer manual brightness control.
The spen is great for using as a remote shutter release as well as smart select for copying text you can't capture with cut&paste.
My 10+ is great, not even close to tired of it. It's current OS load is over a year old, still fast and stable with little maintenance. It's running on Pie. The 20U is the only other phone I would chose. Thinking of getting another 10+ or a 20U soon.
One drop onto concrete is all it takes and these are heavy phones. The Bolt is slim but heavy on protection. Very easy to grip and clean. The only downside is the inner kickstand tends to break. After over close to a dozen 2-4 feet drops onto concrete my 10+ still looks and runs like new.
So I overlook the kickstand flaw.
Yeah if you already are using VNP Karma may not be usable. Unlike other VNP based firewalls it uses almost no battery... it's a gem.
Package Disabler stops apps from running at boot up or you can enable/disable on the fly.
It's interactive widget allows you to toggle one or a group on/off from homepage etc. It's useful for troubleshooting. Unlike clearing data of apps in settings, clearing data with PD leaves no null marks (presumably). It can repair system apks that Setting can't because of that... it saved me from a factory reset by doing that. It will run in safe mode though and the only way to disabled it is under System Administrator. So don't get too crazy with it. I never boot looped an OS with it but there's some apps you probably shouldn't touch like the native launcher. After it's been activated I firewall block it.
The 10+ doesn't encrypt the SD card unless you want it to, the 20U is the same I believe.
NEVER encrypt backup data or you will lose it sooner or latter. I run will no screen lock as well and use Double Tap to turn on/off. That probably won't work on Android 10 though.
Google apps are know trouble makers which is why I mentioned that... Gookill.
The only other bluetooth codec that's has the fidelity of SCC on the 20U is LADC. I've tried as well researched all the other codecs (haven't sampled LDAC) and they are noticably inferior to SSC. Never use airpods so can't comment much on that, but the Buds+ simply never fall out.
As for rooting... the stock Android is (or should be) very robust and stable. Almost impossible to crash and burn. Even on Pie security isn't an issue unless you do something stupid. The downside is you lose diagnostic tools.
If you do root make sure you don't lose the SSC codec if you load a custom rom!
The other thing is if you root it you will trip Knox's efuse, this can not be undone short of replacing the mobo. Certain features need Knox to function and may be lost completely, forever.
Just be aware of that and look before you leap.
I personally don't use any of the Knox dependencies but you may decide differently.
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