I live in the US and have T-Mobile. I'm looking to buy a new phone and decided on the Touch Pro but I want to make an informed buy. I know there are a lot of different versions of the phone for different regions so which kind of unlocked Touch Pro should i buy? A UK version or the Fuze? Would it matter since AT&T uses different frequencies for their 3G (according to my friend) than T-Mobile and either way I wouldn't have 3G or would the Fuze be better suited for the US is some way I don't know about? I've had other unlocked phones from other regions before like Japanese Tri-Band imports and they all worked fine with good reception so I'm not too worried about reception issues unless theirs something I don't know about. Will their be any compatibility issues with if I don't settle for the Fuze?
I don't really want to get a branded phone which is why I'm asking, plus I don't know if the Fuze has the prism back or not and I also don't like what AT&T's done with the keyboard. Sorry if this has been talked about before but when I searched I didn't see anything similar.
hello,
you're absolutely right about the 3g. the fuze 3g wont work because of the wrong bands. i'm not sure about the uk one because it has one of the 2 3g bands that tmobile uses. i know u need both of them to do simultaneous voice and data but maybe you can get away with 3g data on the one overlapping band (2100)? the fuze is good, MUCH cheaper if you're on att (got mine for 150) but if you're going unlocked i'd recommend uk one because of hte chance that it MIGHT work with the tmobile 3g if it's in your area.
the fuze also does have a prism back, it's a pain in the a.. because it wobbles when its on a flat surface. really pissed me off until i got the zagg invisible shield (brilliant product) and now it doesnt wobble asm uch and isnt half as much of a fingerprint magnet as it was before. the keyboard isn't much of an issue either. i havent used the unbranded keyboard but i'm sure i'd be used to that if i had it. i guess it doesnt really matter...
unless you care about 3g, get whatever's cheapest!
Seems like this cell phone will not be released in the U.S.
Why is there no smartphones that is bigger than 5.7 inches available in the United States Of America?
cryingthug said:
Seems like this cell phone will not be released in the U.S.
Why is there no smartphones that is bigger than 5.7 inches available in the United States Of America?
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I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed this. It seems to be a coordinated effort - almost a conspiracy that phones bigger than 5.7 inches don't make it to the USA and/or receive little to zero promotion and/or support.
It's nice to know I'm not the only one whose been clamoring for a 7" phone since the first Samsung Tab was released! PUT A CELLULAR RADIO IN IT, I said.
I'll be bringing the Zenfone 3 Ultra into the states in a couple of months. Might even have a go at opening up the US LTE bands with the post at the top of this forum.
But Why?
mikkej2k said:
I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed this. It seems to be a coordinated effort - almost a conspiracy that phones bigger than 5.7 inches don't make it to the USA and/or receive little to zero promotion and/or support.
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nathanotis and mikkej2k,
And if the reviewers do review the phablet many say that the phone is way too big. I am convinced that the people that say that have abnormally small hands. LOL.
My question now is, why do you think that there is nothing over 5.7 available in the U.S?
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nathanotis and mikkej2k,
My question now is, why do you think that there is nothing over 5.7 available in the U.S?
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No risk takers in the American market?
Or,
Simple supply and demand. There's not enough demand. Just stick with what's most profitable.
As more people mature ( grow older ) carriers will be forced to sell/allow larger smartphones on their networks. I believe that Sprint , T-Mobile , Verizon , and AT&T are the biggest stumbling blocks to larger phones. After the carriers I think the manufacturers don't want to go big - if they can charge more for less , why not?
*Older people would want larger screens because they are easier to read.*
Better For The Eyes
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*Older people would want larger screens because they are easier to read.*
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I am not old and my eyes are excellent but I agree with the larger screens are easier to read 100%. I very much dislike trying to look at a web page on a sub 6 inch screen. What a horrible experience. If the web page is not designed for mobile you are just scrolling all the time. People are paying all this money to have data on their phones and then having to look at all that tiny font. No thank you. Plus videos and movies look so awesome on the larger size screens.
cryingthug said:
Seems like this cell phone will not be released in the U.S.
Why is there no smartphones that is bigger than 5.7 inches available in the United States Of America?
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there is, one that i know for sure is huawei mate 8, a 6 incher, it supports ATT and T-Mo LTE bands in USA.
only gripe - the Kirin 950 SoC, not the performance side of it, but the no source code side of it, meaning no 3rd party roms, OS upgrade and security patches are at mercy of huawei, they are not known to be diligent when it comes to that ..
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9878/the-huawei-mate-8-review
nathanotis said:
It's nice to know I'm not the only one whose been clamoring for a 7" phone since the first Samsung Tab was released! PUT A CELLULAR RADIO IN IT, I said.
I'll be bringing the Zenfone 3 Ultra into the states in a couple of months. Might even have a go at opening up the US LTE bands with the post at the top of this forum.
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The Samsung Tab S 8.4 certainly had a cellular radio in it, that was my last cell phone...
I like big phone and I can not lie....
omniphil said:
The Samsung Tab S 8.4 certainly had a cellular radio in it, that was my last cell phone...
I like big phone and I can not lie....
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How did it work as a phone? Was the size ever a hindrance?
(Just realized you also posted to the other thread I'm watching)
nathanotis said:
How did it work as a phone? Was the size ever a hindrance?
(Just realized you also posted to the other thread I'm watching)
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I doesn't easily fit in your pocket, but that's really the only size hindrance. I actually still have it and use it in my car as a navigation device. It still preforms quite well..
It was cheap too under $500 when new, which is quite a bit cheaper than any flagship phone at the time.
It seems that the Zenfone 3 Ultra (International version & no warranty) is being sold on a large Internet website but it costs several hundred more than they said it would be. It is priced out of reach at almost $700 it is not worth the money. I am not buying.
cryingthug said:
It seems that the Zenfone 3 Ultra (International version & no warranty) is being sold on a large Internet website but it costs several hundred more than they said it would be. It is priced out of reach at almost $700 it is not worth the money. I am not buying.
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It's priced high because it just came out, if you wait a month it should come down to normal pricing....
cryingthug said:
It seems that the Zenfone 3 Ultra (International version & no warranty) is being sold on a large Internet website but it costs several hundred more than they said it would be. It is priced out of reach at almost $700 it is not worth the money. I am not buying.
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The 4GB/64GB model runs for $630 or so for first hand retail (IE: direct from the original seller). The $700 you mentioned is from a reseller (IE: they paid $630 and are reselling it for a small profit).
The 3GB/32GB model runs for about $460, and is probably more in line with the pricing you had heard announced.
The real trick is finding either model in stock at a first hand retailer, as the resellers are buying them up as quickly as they can.
There is a market for the plus 5.7 phones. Everytime one these phones are announced , people that like smaller phones complain as if they'll be forced to switch. Most of those that prefer smaller phones act as though they don't want the larger phones released.
Why does this bother people that like smaller phones? When the original Galaxy Note came out it was groundbreaking for a mainstream company to release a phone that big. Now it's commonplace ( I'm looking at you Apple - iPhone Plus )
shdwphnx said:
The 4GB/64GB model runs for $630 or so for first hand retail (IE: direct from the original seller). The $700 you mentioned is from a reseller (IE: they paid $630 and are reselling it for a small profit).
The 3GB/32GB model runs for about $460, and is probably more in line with the pricing you had heard announced.
The real trick is finding either model in stock at a first hand retailer, as the resellers are buying them up as quickly as they can.
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Just a little I formation for ones that might be looking to purchase the Asus Zenfone ultra (ZU680KL), with 4gb of ram and 64gb internal memory.
I purchased mine new, from EBay with a one year warranty. Purchase price was 593.00, factory unlocked, with free shipping and handling (still higher than originally advertised). Device came from Never-Msrp, out of Houston, Texas.
Slbtrb79 said:
Just a little I formation for ones that might be looking to purchase the Asus Zenfone ultra (ZU680KL), with 4gb of ram and 64gb internal memory.
I purchased mine new, from EBay with a one year warranty. Purchase price was 593.00, factory unlocked, with free shipping and handling (still higher than originally advertised). Device came from Never-Msrp, out of Houston, Texas.
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What carrier are you using your phone on? What type of bands will the phone let you access? What type of factory support do you get? ( if any? )
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What carrier are you using your phone on? What type of bands will the phone let you access? What type of factory support do you get? ( if any? )
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Cricket, which is owned by AT&T, also speeds are capped by them at 4Mbps on 4G and 8Mbps on LTE. I get Hsdpa bands and Gsm bands. The phone has LTE bands, but can't be accessed here. I'm hoping to root soon, not sure if the LTE bands can be accessed then. This however is not real important to me or I would have not purchased the phone anyway. I'm getting 3Mbps on download speeds. Was getting 4-5Mbps on my HTC 10, thru Cricket. Have had no problems to ask for any factory support yet. Asus sent paperwork with phone for a one year warranty against defects and workmanship (standard for most phones). I have something thru eBay, not sure for how long. The warranty really does you no good if you root the phone though. I had a one year warranty on my HTC One M8 and have a one year on my HTC 10, but they are rooted, so their warranties we're voided anyway. Never had to ask for factory support on them either. Asus has a website devoted to their phones, with various types of information, even including how to's on bootloader unlocking on many models (including the zenfone 3 deluxe), source codes, etc.
I guess it's a matter of what you want out of a phone. If you want a faster processor and LTE in the US, this is not the phone for you. It's not the phone my HTC 10 was (gave to my wife), because of the processor, and LTE. But I was essentially looking for a 7 inch tablet with 4gb of ram, great camera, video player with a very good sounding dual speakers, external SD card, and has phone ability. Very hard to find many 7 inch tablets with all the above specs together. I get all of the above with this 6.8 screen Ultra phablet. Also the build quality of this phone has really improved over the previous Asus phones. Realy like the metal workmanship. Not quite as good as HTC 10, but getting there. So far very happy with it and hoping they will unlock the bootloader like they did for the Deluxe.
Thanks for the questions. Never knew how to answer in short sentences. I answer this way in person also. Hope it wasn't to long winded for you.
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Slbtrb79 said:
Cricket, which is owned by AT&T, also speeds are capped by them at 4Mbps on 4G and 8Mbps on LTE. I get Hsdpa bands and Gsm bands. The phone has LTE bands, but can't be accessed here. I'm hoping to root soon, not sure if the LTE bands can be accessed then. This however is not real important to me or I would have not purchased the phone anyway. I'm getting 3Mbps on download speeds. Was getting 4-5Mbps on my HTC 10, thru Cricket. Have had no problems to ask for any factory support yet. Asus sent paperwork with phone for a one year warranty against defects and workmanship (standard for most phones). I have something thru eBay, not sure for how long. The warranty really does you no good if you root the phone though. I had a one year warranty on my HTC One M8 and have a one year on my HTC 10, but they are rooted, so their warranties we're voided anyway. Never had to ask for factory support on them either. Asus has a website devoted to their phones, with various types of information, even including how to's on bootloader unlocking on many models (including the zenfone 3 deluxe), source codes, etc.
I guess it's a matter of what you want out of a phone. If you want a faster processor and LTE in the US, this is not the phone for you. It's not the phone my HTC 10 was (gave to my wife), because of the processor, and LTE. But I was essentially looking for a 7 inch tablet with 4gb of ram, great camera, video player with a very good sounding dual speakers, external SD card, and has phone ability. Very hard to find many 7 inch tablets with all the above specs together. I get all of the above with this 6.8 screen Ultra phablet. Also the build quality of this phone has really improved over the previous Asus phones. Realy like the metal workmanship. Not quite as good as HTC 10, but getting there. So far very happy with it and hoping they will unlock the bootloader like they did for the Deluxe.
Thanks for the questions. Never knew how to answer in short sentences. I answer this way in person also. Hope it wasn't to long winded for you.
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Also, as a side note. There is a factory rom and source code for the Ultra ZU680KL on Asus site for download, in case you would have a problem.
Motorola nexus 6 is 5.96 inches FYI.
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If you want to know why manufacturers are not shipping as much to the US lately, look at the patent system in the US. Once you ship any products to the US, you are counting down the time until you get sued by someone in east Texas...
Not worth the money to sell things in the US market until this situation gets under control.
Anyone have a SIM free Note 10 Plus 5G with an EE or BT SIM in a 5G coverage area? I am in and out of central London but have still not seen my Note detect a 5G mast. Anyone been successful and if so in which city? Thanks
My Note 5G hasnt been able to pick up 5G on BT Mobile anywhere in Belfast despite being told where the 'Good' coverage areas are.
I asked EE how much to upgrade to 5g bearing in mind there are hardly any masts and very patchy through London. They wanted £17 extra per month. I just laughed and hung up!
I've got a Note 10 + 5G that I got from EE, and I got 5G reception in Leicester this weekend just gone. Speedtest.net showed speeds of 192Mbps down and 13 Mbps up. Not 5G speeds really - maybe I need to try again next time I'm in Leicester...
Three are offering a 5g ready package for £10 per month for 6 months then £20 thereafter which is a great deal. However I use BT sports from EE so thats a no go for me.
Keep in mind that under Settings Power Mode needs to be set at High Performance otherwise 5G is switched off. I've still not managed to get 5G on BT in London.
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Keep in mind that under Settings Power Mode needs to be set at High Performance otherwise 5G is switched off. I've still not managed to get 5G on BT in London.
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5G is a joke right now. The capability of 5G isnt a joke, but deployment and functionality of the actual radio waves to get it communicating with handsets is pathetic at best. They launched it waaaaaaay too early. Lets just hope it doesnt ClearWire itself (die from overhype and under development)
Hope everyone is Staying Safe!! I have not posted on this site in a long time.
I have a Note 8, NO PROBLEMS with it and still satisfied with it.
I have read all the specs on the two phones Note 8 and A71. The A71 seems like a very good choice now to upgrade from the Note 8 which I have had for over 3 years.
I looked at the S20 FE and compared the specs on that to the A71 and Note 8.
For the difference in price I think I will go with the A71. I know the S20 has a better refresh rate, but I do not play games and the extra $200 or more for the S20 can not be justified as I am an OLE man.. LOL
What are your opinions on which to get, A71 or S20? Open for all suggestions.
Thanks for your time and help.
Please Stay Safe and Happy Holidays!
I just got through reading the Real Life thread on here. Very good info. Still looking for opinions on worth of moving from Note 8 to A71. Don't really use my phone as a phone. More like a Laptop for News, Notes, etc.
Check slickdeals and you can get the A71 a lot cheaper. Use the Note 8 for trade in and use promo codes from slickdeals for a really good deal.
Thanks for the tip. I have checked many sites for the best price. I have an S7edge ($115) and Note 8 ($185) trade in.
I can buy a refurbished A71a much cheaper without using a trade in. Have used this option on many of previous Note x purchases since the Note 2, with warranty.
I want to keep my Note 8 as it is still a great phone. I always keep a backup phone.
An update on my decision to buy an A71 5g. Ran across a special on Samsung Website and they offered an A71 5g on special.
I traded in an old S7 Edge and bought the A71 for $260. The best deal that I could find as it is brand new, warranty and T-Mobile.
If anyone is interested I can provide the link if that is allowed on this site?
The best deal I could get from T-Mobile was the A71 5g if I took out another phone line for $20/month x 24 months. That would have been $480. The regular price in T-Mobile was $600.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you all. Please Stay Safe.
asctony said:
An update on my decision to buy an A71 5g. Ran across a special on Samsung Website and they offered an A71 5g on special.
I traded in an old S7 Edge and bought the A71 for $260. The best deal that I could find as it is brand new, warranty and T-Mobile.
If anyone is interested I can provide the link if that is allowed on this site?
The best deal I could get from T-Mobile was the A71 5g if I took out another phone line for $20/month x 24 months. That would have been $480. The regular price in T-Mobile was $600.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you all. Please Stay Safe.
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Received my A71 5G Black. Did NOT come with a plastic back cover and no ear buds. Called Samsung to question why the ear buds were not included. Their response was: No longer supplied with the phone. NP since I have better ones from my previous phones.
No major problems transferring data from phones (Note 8 to A71.) Some apps would not work on A71. Still setting up some non default settings. Write back in a week to let you know my opinion. So far, GOOD!