using 45W quick changer in Zenfone6 - ASUS ZenFone 6 (2019) Questions & Answers

Hello,
I recently purchase the Zenfone6z and with the phone the default charger was with 18W fast charging. still it takes 2 hours to fully charge.
previously i had Huwawei p30 pro and it cmae up with 45W charger. can i u use 45W charger in Zebfone. will that charger quicker than 18W charge? will this be harmful to battery life.
Please advice.

karthikeynm83 said:
Hello,
I recently purchase the Zenfone6z and with the phone the default charger was with 18W fast charging. still it takes 2 hours to fully charge.
previously i had Huwawei p30 pro and it cmae up with 45W charger. can i u use 45W charger in Zebfone. will that charger quicker than 18W charge? will this be harmful to battery life.
Please advice.
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Unfortunately it won't charge quicker, as the way Asus implemented and designed the battery can only let it get to 18w.

https://www.androidauthority.com/maximize-battery-life-882395/
This article had the most useful advice I've found about battery charging...
Always use the charger/cable that came with the phone. Ideally go from 80% to 40 or 30%. Power off the phone before charging.
But also depends how long you want to keep it etc so do what suits your lifestyle.

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Huawei Mate 8 Quick Charge.

Hi.
I have a question about Mate quick charge:
I found that Mate 8 has quick charge future. This future is in the phone or in the charger?
How can I switch between quick charge and normal charge?(there is a label on the charger "Quick charge", So for normal charge I should buy a new charger?)
Will quick charge harm the battery(In long usage and compare to normal charge)?
aqazwsx123 said:
Hi.
I have a question about Mate quick charge:
I found that Mate 8 has quick charge future. This future is in the phone or in the charger?
How can I switch between quick charge and normal charge?(there is a label on the charger "Quick charge", So for normal charge I should buy a new charger?)
Will quick charge harm the battery(In long usage and compare to normal charge)?
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you can use a certified quick charger or normal charger. Its just the normal charger will take longer..
They have made the quick charge work in a way that it charges fast until it reaches 80%, and then gradually decreases to 'normal' up to 100% full, so in the long run it should have no harm to the battery.
dj69holland said:
you can use a certified quick charger or normal charger. Its just the normal charger will take longer..
They have made the quick charge work in a way that it charges fast until it reaches 80%, and then gradually decreases to 'normal' up to 100% full, so in the long run it should have no harm to the battery.
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Where can I chose between normal and quick?
I can't find any option in the phone.
aqazwsx123 said:
Where can I chose between normal and quick?
I can't find any option in the phone.
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there is no option. you can either use a QuickCharger or a normal charger..
But as i said with a quickcharger it Automatically changes the amperage as it gets more full, so as to protect the battery.
dj69holland said:
there is no option. you can either use a QuickCharger or a normal charger..
But as i said with a quickcharger it Automatically changes the amperage as it gets more full, so as to protect the battery.
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Aha.
Thanks alot.
So there is no problem if I user other phones charger?
aqazwsx123 said:
So there is no problem if I user other phones charger?
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Not recommended.
ronnie72 said:
Not recommended.
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That's nonsense.
Any charger will do. Not every charger will charge the phone as fast as the original one though.
Using an Anker 5-ports charger here, without any issues, obviously.
Really!? Two damaged battery of HTC devices after use Samsung chargers about a mont. Personal experience!!!
Pfeffernuss said:
That's nonsense.
Any charger will do. Not every charger will charge the phone as fast as the original one though.
Using an Anker 5-ports charger here, without any issues, obviously.
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Pfeffernuss said:
Any charger will do. Not every charger will charge the phone as fast as the original one though.
Using an Anker 5-ports charger here, without any issues, obviously.
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OK, i don't want to argue with you. Just share opinion. And for some reason the manufacturer pay attention to use genuine chargers (attached pictures).
More useful info. http://thetechieguy.com/not-all-cell-phone-chargers-are-the-same-and-are-not-interchangeable/
ronnie72 said:
OK, i don't want to argue with you. Just share opinion. And for some reason the manufacturer pay attention to use genuine chargers (attached pictures).
More useful info. http://thetechieguy.com/not-all-cell-phone-chargers-are-the-same-and-are-not-interchangeable/
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those warnings are for non technical minds.. because they done pay attention to technicalities.
Any charger will work, but you do need to take note of the output Voltage mainly...
Amperage will just mean how fast or slow it will charge..
- If i were to use a 9v 2A charger on a 5v 2A phone, i think it may cause harm.
- a 5v 1A charger on a phone 5V 2A, will just mean it will charge half as fast...
- just like when you plug your phone to computer USB port, it charges at 5V 500mAh (0.5A), hence why it charges slowly
Useful info for everyone.
dj69holland said:
those warnings are for non technical minds.. because they done pay attention to technicalities.
Any charger will work, but you do need to take note of the output Voltage mainly...
Amperage will just mean how fast or slow it will charge..
- If i were to use a 9v 2A charger on a 5v 2A phone, i think it may cause harm.
- a 5v 1A charger on a phone 5V 2A, will just mean it will charge half as fast...
- just like when you plug your phone to computer USB port, it charges at 5V 500mAh (0.5A), hence why it charges slowly
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:good::good::good:

How fast is OP6 charging without dash rapid charger?

I have the Samsung Note 4. Like the OP6, it has a proprietary "quick charge" mode, but I find it will also charge quite fast when provided with a non-Quick Charge source such as a battery that can source several amps of current.
How fast does the OP6 charge without the Dash charger and cable? (in terms of amps drawn from source?)
Like it would take years like why would you want to know this, if you broke your charger buy another and look after it like. It's one of the main features of the phone and they don't talk about how fast it charges like
At work i use a QC3.0 charger for my OP6. Didn't notice a great difference to the DASH charger at home. Maybe DASH is a few minutes faster.
40% to 70% charge with QC3.0 is still insanely fast.
Stay on topic guys. OP asked a question, which could be answered with facts, rather than opinions and scenarios. In my regular car charger, I go from 22 to about 70 in 40 minutes, if I can recall correctly.
ItsLaggyY said:
Like it would take years like why would you want to know this, if you broke your charger buy another and look after it like. It's one of the main features of the phone and they don't talk about how fast it charges like
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I'm not sure if you're serious or sarcastic, but In case of the former, here are a few reasons why someone might be interested in charging with other than the Dash Charger:
1) AFAIK, Dash is available in AC mains or 12V Car charger versions. I often use a 20K mAH Anker powerbank battery for charging. That is usually in situations where other power is not available, but a quick charge is needed. Huge current is available, but would the OP6 use it?
2) I use a compact travel charger that has 5 USB charging ports. Using a Dash charger would require carrying another charger (big, bulky, without retractable prongs), and occupying one (or more due to the shape) additional AC outlets.
3) I have a phone charger in my bedroom, at my desk, in my travel bag (both AC and Car style), and in my car. A quick check on Amazon seems to indicate that the Oneplus6 charger is several times more expensive than other "quick charge" chargers. Over multiple charger locations, the extra costs add up.
Using the word "like" so many times makes it difficult to understand the post.
dwj said:
Using the word "like" so many times makes it difficult to understand the post.
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I'm Irish, apology
I have a stockpile of fast chargers that used the weird Nexus standard (5V, 3A, non QC) and they're okay, and for overnight or at my desk at work that's plenty fast to get the job done. The phone shows them as "charging" and not "charging slowly."
I purchased a "Tinduqin oneplus5T charger" from Amazon that works and looks exactly the same as the original dash charger for about $20, but it seems to already be sold out.
If you don't use dash charger,you only can charge at 5v 1.5a,I have tested it with apple 45w pd charger,xiaomi qc3.0 and nexus 5v3a charger
timg11 said:
I have the Samsung Note 4. Like the OP6, it has a proprietary "quick charge" mode, but I find it will also charge quite fast when provided with a anon-Quick Charge source such as a battery that can source several amps of current.
How fast does the OP6 charge without the Dash charger and cable? (in terms of amps drawn from source?)
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It won't charge very fast because it doesn't use any on board quick charge it's all in the dash charging brick
I have a bunch quick chargers 3.0 at home. It takes a life time. I end up buying the dash charger. I still use the quick charger for over night charging
there must be some sort of software restrictions on oneplus6 since measures show that oneplus6 cannot be charged with more than 5V-1.5A.
x111 said:
there must be some sort of software restrictions on oneplus6 since measures show that oneplus6 cannot be charged with more than 5V-1.5A.
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Do you own the OP6? Do you have a USB power meter that could measure the charging current with and without the Dash charger and reply with the values?
On my Note 4, it charges at about 1.17A / 5 V when the screen is on, and the current goes up to 1.6A with the screen off. That is with either a QC2 Quick Charger or a battery power pack. The phone reports "quick charger connected" in both cases.
oneplus6 has 85% battery left, measured with usb voltmeter and original oneplus dash charger 5V-4A, it shows that oneplus6 is dawning 5V-1.3A and same thing is happening with other usb chargers capable to deliver over 5V-2A.
I guess oneplus6 should be discharged less than 50% or something in order to start receiving over 5V-3A
1N1ghth4wk said:
At work i use a QC3.0 charger for my OP6. Didn't notice a great difference to the DASH charger at home. Maybe DASH is a few minutes faster.
40% to 70% charge with QC3.0 is still insanely fast.
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Is it possible to use a the original DASH-adapter but with another USB-C cable? I need a longer cable so I can use the phone whilwe charging.
OnePlus has a original cable for sale which is only 150cm Long.
My question is if I can buy any other manufacturers cable whish also support some sort of fast charging. I've heard for example that DASH-charging is the same charging model that Huawei P20 Pro uses, they just have different name. .
So, is there anyone here that has switched the OP original cable and charge it up with a cable from another manufacturer?
There has to be a solution to this. Me myself can't. be the only one that needs s longer cable.
x111 said:
oneplus6 has 85% battery left, measured with usb voltmeter and original oneplus dash charger 5V-4A, it shows that oneplus6 is dawning 5V-1.3A and same thing is happening with other usb chargers capable to deliver over 5V-2A.
I guess oneplus6 should be discharged less than 50% or something in order to start receiving over 5V-3A
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That's normal. Phones pull the most amps when on low battery, then progressively less as they are charged.
Check how much it pulls on <40% and <80% respectively.
Well, I charged my Op6 with a no-name USB 3.0 charger yesterday (forgot my dash charger at home, I was by a friend) and from 3% to 100% it took about ~1 hour and 55 minutes.
Not that bad I guess. But I still prefer my dash charger
I'm using a huawei p20 pro charger atm. Phone states from 75 - 100 it will take 33 minutes. (prob a bit faster if I don't use the phone.
Here is a charging session with a Oneplus 2 charger without quick charge
Charging from 27% to 100% in 2 hrs, 40 min - avg. Charging speed: about 1000 mA/h
Hello,
I'm using this old thread since we're talking about the same thing.
Is there a kernel or rom for the OP6 that enables to draw as much current as possible form third party chargers? It's sad that it's stuck at 1.5A no matter the charger unless you use dash charger. 2A is already something, 3A would be awesome.
Of course only if this a software limit.

Charger. What is better?

Hey
I want to buy one more charger for my phone
what is better to use?
the old AY0520 charger or the warp 30W charger that came with OP7?
It doesnt matter the fast charging, if I will need it, I will use the 65W charger, but want one charger that charge it slowly, as normal speed, at night
thank you
I think you are worrying too much about that.
Just let it be, charge overnight with 65w also fine with smart control on smart phone nowaday.
A phone life is about 2 or 3 years, even if you want to use it longer then just replace your battery.
OPPO GaN 65W

Question Charging speed

So... Phone is supposed to charge at 45W but, from what I've read, this is not really true...
I do not have the original 45W Samsung charger but a 3rd party multiport 90W charger, with 2 PD usb C and one A port.
Till yesterday I was using a standard usb C to C cable and phone would display "fast charging" with an estimate of 1h from 15% to 100%. Not really a good performance I'd say. Today I bought a certified 100W cable with a display showing charging speed (usb C to C). With this cable two things change: phone displays "fast charging 2.0" and charging speed has slightly improved: less than 1h from 12% to 100%. Still not fast enough for a 45W charging... And as a metter of fact after 5 minutes the display on the cable stops at 28W...
This matches with lots of articles that complain for the same problem...
I also have a Xiaomi 12 Pro with dedicated 120W charger + dedicated usb C to A cable (charger has A). I'm saying dedicated, because with any other cable (standard usb C to A or even the above 100W usb C to C with adapter) the Xiaomi displays "turbo charging" while with original dedicated Xiaomi cable it displays "120W max" and is indeed blazing fast: 15 min for a full charge!!!
What is strange is that if I use the Xiaomi 120W charger with dedicated cable on the s22 ultra, phone displays only "fast charging" without the "2.0".
Now... I'm not trying to compare charging speed of s22 ultra to 12 Pro: Xiaomi can achieve such a speed because the phones have two separated batteries that charge simultaneously, thanks to a power splitter that takes the 120W input and splits it into two 60W, one for each battery.
What I'd like to know is what's going on with the s22 ultra. I understand that a basic cable is not enough to deliver 45W, reason why I bought a better cable, yet I was expecting a big improvement, while it improved charging speed of less than 10 minutes. And as a matter of fact I've never seen 45W on the cable display. Maybe I need an original Samsung 45W charger instead of a 3rd party one?
Search the forum, there is a few topics regarding 45w charging... I have a 65w charger and 5a cable and the charger has all the necessary properties/charging formats needed to fast charge 2.0 the samsung, but it doesn't. i don't even get the fast charge 2.0 notification....In the end the difference between the 25w and 45w is very slim....will be a waste of money to purchase the 45w samsung charger....check the other discussion.....my charger takes basically an hour from 10-100%...it's good enough for now
Well good enough if not compared to the blazing fast xiaomi's 120w charge
Most of the time, it's only several minutes charging time difference when I have a "Super fast charging" charger or a "Super fast charging 2.0" charger connected. 45W charging seems to be over hyped by Samsung and it's not using full power to charge all the time.
I have the original new 45W charger and the phone charges from ~ 0% to 50% in approximately 20 minutes as advertised. It is faster by around 22% in comparison to the 25W fast charger between 0-50% state of charge. Afterwards they both charge in almost same way with the 45W charger being max 10 minutes faster by reaching 100%. You need a PD & PPS charger. There are only some 3rd party ones that manage to do same as checked by androidpolice:
Best 45W chargers for the Samsung Galaxy S22+ & S22 Ultra in 2023
Time for a refill for your Samsung S22+ or S22 Ultra. These 45W chargers can help
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buddy66 said:
I have the original new 45W charger and the phone charges from ~ 0% to 50% in approximately 20 minutes as advertised. It is faster by around 22% in comparison to the 25W fast charger between 0-50% state of charge. Afterwards they both charge in almost same way with the 45W charger being max 10 minutes faster by reaching 100%. You need a PD & PPS charger. There are only some 3rd party ones that manage to do same as checked by androidpolice:
Best 45W chargers for the Samsung Galaxy S22+ & S22 Ultra in 2023
Time for a refill for your Samsung S22+ or S22 Ultra. These 45W chargers can help
www.androidpolice.com
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My charger is compatible with FC 2.0 but as I said it depends on the cable. Real problem is that 10 mins faster between 25W and 45W is a real joke. Given this phones is energy hungry then... With the Xiaomi 12 Pro I don't even care: 5 mins and I get 30% of charge, although you need proprietary charger and cable
thegios said:
My charger is compatible with FC 2.0 but as I said it depends on the cable. Real problem is that 10 mins faster between 25W and 45W is a real joke. Given this phones is energy hungry then... With the Xiaomi 12 Pro I don't even care: 5 mins and I get 30% of charge, although you need proprietary charger and cable
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It depends on what you want. For example I am perfectly happy with my 25W charger which comes rarely in use because of me charging wirelessly and without fast charging over the night but I bought the 45W one to have the possibility to get that extra speed between 0 and 50, and my girlfriend gets my old 25W one for her base S22. Samsung has a different approach to fast charging and for me 120W on Xiaomi or 150W on Oppo/OnePlus is something I do not need although I am curious why Samsung did not make the same move yet. Just split the cells in two or three, give each cell a maximum of 25W and boom, you're in the mix and nobody will complain.
On the other hand they lied to us about last gen 45W charger which was useless so it is fair to say that their battery & charging department is almost on the same bad level as the Exynos software team if not actually worse than them
buddy66 said:
It depends on what you want. For example I am perfectly happy with my 25W charger which comes rarely in use because of me charging wirelessly and without fast charging over the night but I bought the 45W one to have the possibility to get that extra speed between 0 and 50, and my girlfriend gets my old 25W one for her base S22. Samsung has a different approach to fast charging and for me 120W on Xiaomi or 150W on Oppo/OnePlus is something I do not need although I am curious why Samsung did not make the same move yet. Just split the cells in two or three, give each cell a maximum of 25W and boom, you're in the mix and nobody will complain.
On the other hand they lied to us about last gen 45W charger which was useless so it is fair to say that their battery & charging department is almost on the same bad level as the Exynos software team if not actually worse than them
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2 cells is exactly what Xiaomi does
Reg Samsung, that's my point: they indeed lie, it's not a 45W phone. Full stop.
I have two Super Fast Samsung 25 watt chargers. One for my S22U and One for my Tab S7+ and both can charge in under an hour. 45 watt chargeers just wasting your money, and extra wear on the battery for a tiny bit of improvement. Not worth it to me.

Question Should I change charger to 65W?

Hi using mu old adapter from S20Ultra I think it's 25W. Supercharging kind of works.
Should I buy 45W or 65W adapter? Any better?
No, You will only get improvement of 5-10 minutes with 45w charger.
I disagree with how people view the need to upgrade to a fast charger.
They usually say, as above, no need - you only get 5 to 15 minutes of improvement.
This is not untrue.
But this is not the only use of a super fast charger.
The benefit of a super fast charger is when your batter level is below 60%.
Say its at 30% and you need to leave home/work soon and won't have a charger for a while. It'll take it to 60% at a rate of 30 to 45 watts.
So faster than our 25 watt charger.
So the benefit is not "you'll only get to 100% 10 minutes faster".
Its for increasing charge from low to mid state faster than a regular charger.
I know this because I have a watt meter attached to my USB charger.
matale0 said:
Hi using mu old adapter from S20Ultra I think it's 25W. Supercharging kind of works.
Should I buy 45W or 65W adapter? Any better?
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What's that means?
You should buy the 45W SFC charger, yes. Make sure to get a proper cable for it too. There is a variation of it which comes with a cable, the other one without.
As for the 65W, no. It won't be any faster than the 45W charger. The phone cannot charge faster than that.
However if you plan to charge two devices at once (i presume you mean the dual charger 65w) then yes, go for it.
I use a Samsung 65W charger on my S22 Ultra. It charges my phone MUCH faster than any other Samsung charger I own. And yes, I only use OEM chargers, no aftermarket chargers.
matale0 said:
What's that means?
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An idea for a brand of charger
I use a Ugreen 65w
Use it for s22 and Dell xps 13
https://www.amazon.co.uk/UGREEN-Charger-Compatible-MacBook-Matebook/dp/B08CDDSVN4/ref=asc_df_B08CDDSVN4/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=463046249677&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15677048199735148413&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006719&hvtargid=pla-950211662859&psc=1

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