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[Q] About N5 screen

I would like to know if the N5 is susceptible to the "Screen burn-in\ghosting" problem, cuz Im from Argentina and here we dont have Google support and spare parts are hard to find/buy, for that reason I was taking into consideration the possibility to maybe buy another smartphone, maybe a S4 or another one available in my country
Thanks!

Phones with an LCD screen do not get burned in. There may be a ghosting effect if the screen refresh rate is low but that isn't a problem with this phone.
Also you are more likely to get screen burn in on an s4 since it has an amoled display
Anyone correct me if I'm mistaken
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Yeah, I was thinking the same, I guess is IPS panel right?, So, the navbar will not affect the color of the screen in a few months?

Something strange with the screen, need your advise

Hi,
I got my S6 4 days ago and so far I'm really happy with it.
I have a tiny thing with my screen, can't even call it by a name and definitely don't know if it is an issue, so I'll try to describe it.
I noticed it by a mistake... after I got it, I opened the device, played with it to drain the battery in order to fully charge it.
When it went to 5% the device has reduced the brightness automatically to save the battery and than it appeared...
A one, look a like white pixel, somewhere around the middle of the screen that I didn't (and couldn't) notice before.
It stayed there no matter what i did or in which app I used.
After I got to 1% I plugged it to the power to charge it and than, when the brightness was automatically got brighter, it looked like
It disappeared... all looked fine.
After playing with it, I can summarize that I can clearly see this white pixel in 3 occasions:
1. When closing the screen, it appears for a millisecond on the black, like flashing and than the screen is shut off.
2. When opening the screen, the same, for a millisecond, like flashing.
3. When reducing the brightness.
In addition, if I am really trying, I can barely see it even in almost full brightness but just because I know it is there.
I understand that it is always there and because the brightness is high I can't almost see it.
I can say for sure that no one can see it if I won't point on it or mention it, even when closing the screen, you won't see it
unless you know it's there and you saw it after reducing the brightness.
Another strange thing (or maybe not) is that I took screenshots so I will be able to show it to you but it is not appearing over it
Even on a black screen - saw it but it is not there in the picture.
I can live with it, unless it is something can effect in the future. this is my only worry.
I know that the easy way is to go with the warranty, but as there are other issues with the screen like pinkish/yellow/green
Maybe if it's not an issue, better to leave it like that.
I really will appreciate your advise and opinion.

Dial *#0*#. Go Red, Green, Blue, Dimming. If the dot it's still visible in any of the tests you might have a dead pixel.
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pokr777 said:
Dial *#0*#. Go Red, Green, Blue, Dimming. If the dot it's still visible in any of the tests you might have a dead pixel.
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Did it, and pretty much the same as I described.
Red, Green, Blue - Nothing
Dimming - See it just after dimming is happening, meaning just after the second click (on first click see nothing).
So, it's dead? half dead?
Can it be worse?
Like I wrote, it is bother me just because:
1. I know it's there
2. Mostly because I'm afraid how it will effect in the future or if it means that my screen is defect.
What do you think?
Thanks for your help.

This is a strange issue, normally the pixel is either dead or not, whats even stranger is that you and others are suffering from dead pixels, i tought this was a thing of the past with oled screens but clearly im wrong.
I have 1 suggestion for you, put on your google chrome browser in your phone, a very dark gray (not black) picture and see if you can spot that pixel in that background and report back please, while viewing the picture, play with the brightness, put it manual on max manual on medium and manual on low, be sure to check it in a dark-ish environment.

Same same.
In a room with regular lights:
Can spot it on full or 6/8 contrast just because I know it's there and even than it is really hard to notice it.
When put it on medium it is more visible but I'm not so sure that in "regular" looking someone will see it unless he will look for it or by a mistake it will jump on his eyes.
When put it in lowest - it is very clear and shine.
In a dark room:
Can spot is all the time but:
On full or 6/8 contrast it is noticed but not shine. like a brighter gray.
On medium or the lowest contrast - it is very visible - clear and shine.

Was your S6 ever opened? ) Maybe you have a small piece of dust under the glass? Screen protector? Try to check if it's visible in direct sunlight with the screen off.
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pokr777 said:
Was your S6 ever opened? ) Maybe you have a small piece of dust under the glass? Screen protector? Try to check if it's visible in direct sunlight with the screen off.
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It wasn't open, it is brand new.
I have a glass screen protector - can something like dust cause this kind of an issue? I don't think so (bit don't know of course) as if so I would see it all the time + it wasn't like showing/glowing for millisecond when closing the screen.
Doesn't' it?

Never leave your battery die! This is a common mistake people make. Lithium ion batteries needs to be charged as often as possible never leave it die as it will deteriorate the battery.
That strange pixel will probably settle after some use. The pinkish colour on the screen seems like a lot of people have that problem. That would be the only reason I would send that back for warranty

Hi,
I think that it is indeed a dead pixel. However as your phone has such high resolution and pixel density, I think it is harder to see sometimes.
Regarding the future of this problem, I don't think it will affect you more than this. I've owned some devices with dead pixels and never ever they gave me problems (my good ol Nintendo DS had 2 haha, I've been playing it since 2006 IIRC). But if you want professional guidance, maybe it's a good idea to take the phone to a Samsung Technical Center or something like that and show them the dead pixel (or try), and also talk about the pinkish screen.
All the best,
~Lord
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Thanks for your help.
I went to the local Samsung store and it is indeed a dead pixel (or whatever) - They gave me a brand new device.
Regarding the battery, thanks for the information, I wasn't aware of it at all, I did leave it to die at first use as I was away, but anyway, even without knowing it, Today I charged it at around 30%
as usually I'm not waiting for it to die, but from now on I will give it more attention.
Thanks all.

Light Bleeding

I've decided to start a new thread to gain some focus on this issue.
It is common on the U11 according to some posts.
I've just noticed after the recent update, maybe it was there from the beginning, that this device has a lot of light bleed around the sides when using always-on feature. Some parts of the edges of the device has greater light bleed than other sections.
It's quite noticeable and adds more light to the room at night. If only the time was showing it would be perfect. This is what I thought was there before the upgrade. However I believe that any light bleeding is a hardware thing not a software thing.
This could be a reason why it drains the battery so much.
The light bleeding isn't noticeable during the day as far as I have checked.
Maybe I should return this device but not sure if HTC will agree.

globalgpj said:
I've decided to start a new thread to gain some focus on this issue.
It is common on the U11 according to some posts.
I've just noticed after the recent update, maybe it was there from the beginning, that this device has a lot of light bleed around the sides when using always-on feature. Some parts of the edges of the device has greater light bleed than other sections.
It's quite noticeable and adds more light to the room at night. If only the time was showing it would be perfect. This is what I thought was there before the upgrade. However I believe that any light bleeding is a hardware thing not a software thing.
This could be a reason why it drains the battery so much.
The light bleeding isn't noticeable during the day as far as I have checked.
Maybe I should return this device but not sure if HTC will agree.
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According to some early buyer, U11+ shows the light bleeding only from the bottom right corner of the display.
Also it should be barely noticeable: if your unit has "lot of light bleed around the sides" maybe it has a faulty or not properly assembled display...or maybe you are exaggerating things!

Can you please show a picture of this issue?

In darkness, the light bleed is visible, and expected on an LCD because you can not light up just the pixels (the date and notification floating window) which you want to show on an LCD . The whole screen has to be lit up with minimal brightness.
In normal lighting, its not visible at all because the brightness on U11+ can go down quite a bit and blacks are blacker than I have seen on an LCD.

See attached image.
Not sure what's acceptable with light bleeding by HTC's standards or most mobile manufacturers.

globalgpj said:
See attached image.
Not sure what's acceptable with light bleeding by HTC's standards or most mobile manufacturers.
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Ouch! That really looks bad.
I was eyeing this phone, and can't decide between it and the LG V30. Both seem to be a lottery with the displays unfortunately...

globalgpj said:
See attached image.
Not sure what's acceptable with light bleeding by HTC's standards or most mobile manufacturers.
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Got my HTC u11 plus today and my screen has the same kind off light bleed.
It's only on the "smart display" though

Elvemoon said:
Got my HTC u11 plus today and my screen has the same kind off light bleed.
It's only on the "smart display" though
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Can't believe I'm the first one to ask, but is it the UK or Asia model?

codrin.brustureanu said:
Can't believe I'm the first one to ask, but is it the UK or Asia model?
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Asia model , its very minimal on my phone. Have to stand in a dark room to see the bleed in the right hand corner

Mine is direct from Taiwan.
Yes, the bleed is only noticeable using the always-on feature.
I could swear I didn't notice it before the recent update. But it's got to be a hardware thing.

LCD Panel + Backlight = visible light on black screen. No surprises here tbh lol

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LCD Panel + Backlight = visible light on black screen. No surprises here tbh lol
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Exactly!! To all the HTC detractors making this a huge issue, show me an LCD screen which does not have it.
Here is another nugget: the non-uniform light bleed shown in the photo above is because of special algorithm followed by always on display software. If you just do a full screen black (use the Full Screen Test from play store), you will see a uniform backlighting, which is the best I have seen on an LCD. U11+ display has no defects in my opinion.
HTC should not have even tried AOD on an LCD screen.

Htc m9 and 10 didn't have that much

vegetaleb said:
Htc m9 and 10 didn't have that much
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I have the HTC 10. The black on HTC U11+ is blacker than the black on HTC 10 i.e. the backlight is even lower on U11+ than 10. I tested using the Full Screen Test I mentioned above. I would like to mention again that non-uniform light bleed is only an issue with always-on-display, and not with the screen in general. And its the non-uniformity of backlight that makes it seem like an issue.

Thanks for all the feedback.
I'm very happy with the U11+.
I just selected the option to turn the always-on feature when I move the device, so it's very liveable.
HTC has always been my favourite manufacturer for the last 13+years. The HD2 one of the best years ago.

Ouch, this light bleed seems harsh. Although it should be expected given the screen's technology.

It's not a default. Devsk explained it well, I wouldn't worry it
Even my Moto X Pure LCD screen has bleed, but it is only visible in total darkness on a black screen. Doesn't bother me in the least.
PS Anyone who is curious can download the Backlight Bleed Test app from the Playstore to view how much bleed your particular LCD screen has.

People who think this is normal for LCD screens, let me stop you right there! The HTC U11+ has blacks nearly as black as LED screens, even at night. There was no light bleed when I received this device. I held it next to the S8 Plus, and both had almost the same black values. It's amazing.
After a week however, I suddenly had an extreme light bleed, 0,5cm around all edges, like some sort of weird snow theme. Luckily it faded within an hour. Now it's normal again, except for the down right corner. That's only noticable when the screen is black, and it shows the time. It's barely noticable though.
This incident led me to believe it's anything but normal. The seller told me it's alright to exchange my device for a new one, so I hope it's not an issue with all devices. :fingers-crossed:
You'd think it's an hardware issue, but what are the possibilties the software influenced the backlight? Any thoughts?

UPDATE:
Just had a software update, and the light bleed is gone now. Even in the down right corner. Is this a coincidence, or do you think it might have been a software problem?

Barendbakkelei said:
UPDATE:
Just had a software update, and the light bleed is gone now. Even in the down right corner. Is this a coincidence, or do you think it might have been a software problem?
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What software update did you get ?
What's the version number?

Screen burn-in

Given that this phone has an AMOLED screen, has anybody had a lot of burn-in on the screen?
If so, what is it, and how bad is it? I am thinking of buying a Pixel, but will most likely keep it for a number of years, and want to know what I can expect.
Cheers.

scutworker said:
Given that this phone has an AMOLED screen, has anybody had a lot of burn-in on the screen?
If so, what is it, and how bad is it? I am thinking of buying a Pixel, but will most likely keep it for a number of years, and want to know what I can expect.
Cheers.
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I don't think screen burn in is as bigger issue as it was a few years ago. I've only had the device for about 9 months but there are zero signs of burn in.
I remember having an early Galaxy S model and that was burning in after a few months.

I have heard of people having burn in with the pixels display after like 3 months (which i find hard to believe) but no burn in here.

Tbh first generation of Pixels are known for having screen burns. It's pretty common and not only with Pixel but with all phones with AMOLED screens.

scutworker said:
Given that this phone has an AMOLED screen, has anybody had a lot of burn-in on the screen?
If so, what is it, and how bad is it? I am thinking of buying a Pixel, but will most likely keep it for a number of years, and want to know what I can expect.
Cheers.
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are you planning to run a custom rom? if you are then there's a carbonrom developed feature that some roms have adapted such as Dirty Unicorns which has screen burn-in protection that shifts the pixels on the screen ever so slightly and you can set it to how often it does that just to prevent burn-in. That's how samsung does it on their newer devices. You won't notice anything at all. I have had my pixel since fabruary and haven't noticed any burn-in. Burnin happens if you have something static on your amoled screen over time. Anyway I'm rocking Dirty Unicorns rom which has adapted carbonroms feature and it's been great, not something I think about really but a great safety. Wish google had implemented it as default. (edit: the feature is called smart pixels and within that option there's an option called screen burn-in protection).

Most burn-in on AMOLED or POLED screens can be seen along the navigation bar. Part of the problem is Google using a black bar down there so those pixels don't get as much burn as the rest of the screen. It bothers some people more than others. Running brightness too high also doesn't help.
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Question Screen burn

Can using the galaxy watch 4 for prolonged periods with very bright active screen or AOD (as in some of the Watchmaker app) cause screen burn? Thanks. Sorry bad English.

The brighter it is, the faster it degrades.
I avoid using them in direct sunlight or over 50% brightness except very briefly.
After 2 years of heavy usage my N10+ show no signs of degradation. Blue pixels are the first to fail generally. Red the last. Green is the wavelength the human eye is most sensitive to.

My Samsung Gear S3 Classic was used with AOD about 9 hours a day, every day, for 3 years without any "burn in" problem. I don't know why the GW4 would have any problem doing at least the same. Some reports of it being damaged in just days were most likely due to some very bad manufacturing/part defect, not due to a design limitation.

There are several people that reported burn in and even the people who say that it is only faulty devices dont dare to use the screen on max brightness + AOD...
I would not risk it!

frea said:
There are several people that reported burn in and even the people who say that it is only faulty devices dont dare to use the screen on max brightness + AOD...
I would not risk it!
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AOD is probably safe if the tap on feature is available.
Direct sunlight and AMOLED displays are a very bad combination. I would wear it on the underside of the wrist or covered by a sleeve when in the sun.
It's got some cool features but when out and about especially working out, the electronics go dark. They are a distraction that can only cause harm.
In the real world life altering updates happen in a split second*. No second chances.
Many "kids" don't understand this; they will learn or burn.
*Multitasking is a myth in most cases. Only people at an expert level are capable of this, with certain tasks/situations and only after many months or years of training and practice.
It becomes a hardwired skill only then.
Don't delude yourself... you may only get one chance to react appropriately in a fraction of a second. Not easy to do even in ideal conditions.
Relax your guard only in low threat level environments.

Okay. Thanks everyone. I think better to be careful