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It seems that S8/S8+ from AT&T as well as the unlocked SM-G955U have band 30
However the G955F and G955FD seem to not have it...
Question to International version buyers and that have AT&T, how much do you care about band 30?
Do you believe their will be a Dual sim phone with band 30 launched at future date?
Does the International model have band 12? I checked Samsung UAE and it lists band 12 but on Amazon it doesn't have it.
FrenchJo67 said:
It seems that S8/S8+ from AT&T as well as the unlocked SM-G955U have band 30
However the G955F and G955FD seem to not have it...
Question to International version buyers and that have AT&T, how much do you care about band 30?
Do you believe their will be a Dual sim phone with band 30 launched at future date?
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Would be nice but probably never going to happen
solojazz said:
Does the International model have band 12? I checked Samsung UAE and it lists band 12 but on Amazon it doesn't have it.
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yes it has band 12.
https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=3292117
From experience using the international version on any USA carrier can be risky. If you live in a big city you should get normal service most of the time. You won't be able to get the carrier aggregation that AT&T uses band 30 for though so when the network is congested your service will be noticeably effected.
Also if it is still missing any of the low bands you will have a hard time getting a good signal in rural areas as well. For the most part you will want to make sure you have access to Bands: 2, 4, 12, 17. that will cover the majority of your needs. Bands 29, and 30 really only come in with the carrier aggregation. but without them you will notice slower speeds or no signal at all at big events.
I tried out an international S7e after I had to relinquish my Note 7, for me it was not worth it. Root is becoming less needed now, custom ROMs break TOO much functionality (Samsung Pay, Android Pay, Work Email, Banking Apps, etc) and the things I loved root for, display scaling, ad blocking, Viper4Android, Themes, are becoming less needed, due to compatible things being offered on stock. Just not worth it anymore for slight tweaks and marginal performance increases.
ShrekOpher said:
From experience using the international version on any USA carrier can be risky. If you live in a big city you should get normal service most of the time. You won't be able to get the carrier aggregation that AT&T uses band 30 for though so when the network is congested your service will be noticeably effected.
Also if it is still missing any of the low bands you will have a hard time getting a good signal in rural areas as well. For the most part you will want to make sure you have access to Bands: 2, 4, 12, 17. that will cover the majority of your needs. Bands 29, and 30 really only come in with the carrier aggregation. but without them you will notice slower speeds or no signal at all at big events.
I tried out an international S7e after I had to relinquish my Note 7, for me it was not worth it. Root is becoming less needed now, custom ROMs break TOO much functionality (Samsung Pay, Android Pay, Work Email, Banking Apps, etc) and the things I loved root for, display scaling, ad blocking, Viper4Android, Themes, are becoming less needed, due to compatible things being offered on stock. Just not worth it anymore for slight tweaks and marginal performance increases.
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What you've said here gets me thinking, I don't want to root I just want better battery life which if it's like the s7 launch the exynos had much better battery life but if they're the same what else are the differences should I just buy it from T-Mobile in the states?
solojazz said:
What you've said here gets me thinking, I don't want to root I just want better battery life which if it's like the s7 launch the exynos had much better battery life but if they're the same what else are the differences should I just buy it from T-Mobile in the states?
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Well I made a drastic decision last night and got the AT&T version at Best Buy, they have a $35 14 day return policy. So I thought I can always return it and get an International version.
12 hours into s8+ 955U, I am impressed. It runs much smoother as my s7e 128gb G9350 black pearl .... was worried that like with the s7e I was going to feel more of these little delays that I had on s7e snapdragon but not on Exynos... this is not the case.
Other comments:
- smartlinked transfered, contacts, pictures, sms, etc but only 70% of the apps...
- Like everything except that the finger printer scanner location will take me another few days to unlock efficiently...
Oh and my 9 year told me, "Dad, why did you tell mom that you bought a new phone, it looks exactly the same as before just a little longer, she would never have noticed!"
FrenchJo67 said:
Well I made a drastic decision last night and got the AT&T version at Best Buy, they have a $35 14 day return policy. So I thought I can always return it and get an International version.
12 hours into s8+ 955U, I am impressed. It runs much smoother as my s7e 128gb G9350 black pearl .... was worried that like with the s7e I was going to feel more of these little delays that I had on s7e snapdragon but not on Exynos... this is not the case.
Other comments:
- smartlinked transfered, contacts, pictures, sms, etc but only 70% of the apps...
- Like everything except that the finger printer scanner location will take me another few days to unlock efficiently...
Oh and my 9 year told me, "Dad, why did you tell mom that you bought a new phone, it looks exactly the same as before just a little longer, she would never have noticed!"
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You have an account with AT&T or you paid full price?
954wrecker said:
You have an account with AT&T or you paid full price?
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I paid full price, but have an account with AT&T. I switch phones a lot and resell them on ebay.
By the way an ATT store NY wanted an extra $25 for a sim card that I did not need and then they said "sorry Sir you can not buy it for $850 we only sell no contract phones after one month"
THat is why I went to Best Buy... Ordered on the app, got an email 35 minutes, and picked up the phone....effortless..... went home switch the sim card for s7e to s8+, few setup clicks, smartlink and just had to reinstall two dozen apps that did not make it over
FrenchJo67 said:
I paid full price, but have an account with AT&T. I switch phones a lot and resell them on ebay.
By the way an ATT store NY wanted an extra $25 for a sim card that I did not need and then they said "sorry Sir you can not buy it for $850 we only sell no contract phones after one month"
THat is why I went to Best Buy... Ordered on the app, got an email 35 minutes, and picked up the phone....effortless..... went home switch the sim card for s7e to s8+, few setup clicks, smartlink and just had to reinstall two dozen apps that did not make it over
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Yea I figured thats why I asked. Appreciate the info and honesty. I hate the cell phone companies they are so full of s$%t. So now may I ask how easy is it to have AT&T sim unlock it for you? I know they have the web portal for non and current customers, but ive never used it before.
954wrecker said:
Yea I figured thats why I asked. Appreciate the info and honesty. I hate the cell phone companies they are so full of s$%t. So now may I ask how easy is it to have AT&T sim unlock it for you? I know they have the web portal for non and current customers, but ive never used it before.
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I unlocked many iphones on the At&T protal it usually takes 1-3 business days and was smooth.
Switched to Android for the Note 7 (!) and Knox and only bought international versions until last night.
Will unlock this in 60 days, as their is a 60 day delay... it better works as I will travel internationally in 66 days !!
FrenchJo67 said:
I unlocked many iphones on the At&T protal it usually takes 1-3 business days and was smooth.
Switched to Android for the Note 7 (!) and Knox and only bought international versions until last night.
Will unlock this in 60 days, as their is a 60 day delay... it better works as I will travel internationally in 66 days !!
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Actually I just checked the portal and I believe as my account is way older as 60 days, i can unlock the new phone after 14 days (buyers remorse period)
FrenchJo67 said:
Actually I just checked the portal and I believe as my account is way older as 60 days, i can unlock the new phone after 14 days (buyers remorse period)
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Thats good to know I wonder how long they make non customers wait if they make AT&T customers wait that long. Please if you have time update us as to the SIM lock situatuon. Thanks in advance
FrenchJo67 said:
Well I made a drastic decision last night and got the AT&T version at Best Buy, they have a $35 14 day return policy. So I thought I can always return it and get an International version.
12 hours into s8+ 955U, I am impressed. It runs much smoother as my s7e 128gb G9350 black pearl .... was worried that like with the s7e I was going to feel more of these little delays that I had on s7e snapdragon but not on Exynos... this is not the case.
Other comments:
- smartlinked transfered, contacts, pictures, sms, etc but only 70% of the apps...
- Like everything except that the finger printer scanner location will take me another few days to unlock efficiently...
Oh and my 9 year told me, "Dad, why did you tell mom that you bought a new phone, it looks exactly the same as before just a little longer, she would never have noticed!"
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Kids keep getting smarter and smarter as time goes on lol
Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
ShrekOpher said:
From experience using the international version on any USA carrier can be risky. If you live in a big city you should get normal service most of the time. You won't be able to get the carrier aggregation that AT&T uses band 30 for though so when the network is congested your service will be noticeably effected.
Also if it is still missing any of the low bands you will have a hard time getting a good signal in rural areas as well. For the most part you will want to make sure you have access to Bands: 2, 4, 12, 17. that will cover the majority of your needs. Bands 29, and 30 really only come in with the carrier aggregation. but without them you will notice slower speeds or no signal at all at big events.
I tried out an international S7e after I had to relinquish my Note 7, for me it was not worth it. Root is becoming less needed now, custom ROMs break TOO much functionality (Samsung Pay, Android Pay, Work Email, Banking Apps, etc) and the things I loved root for, display scaling, ad blocking, Viper4Android, Themes, are becoming less needed, due to compatible things being offered on stock. Just not worth it anymore for slight tweaks and marginal performance increases.
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That's not accurate for the S8 international unlocked variant this year.
According to the FCC listing it supports the following US bands 12, 17, 13, 26, 5, 66, 4, 25, 2, 41 so aside from band 30 it has all the bands needed to work great on AT&T and T-Mobile.
It also has carrier aggregation with US bands with the following combinations:
2+12
4+12
4+17
12+12
66+17
41+41
66+66
and 3 band carrier aggregation at the following bands:
4+12+12
66+12+66
41+41+41
It's interesting that this year the international version includes Verizon and Sprint LTE bands but not CDMA bands (so not sure how will that work on those two networks).
clubtech said:
That's not accurate for the S8 international unlocked variant this year.
According to the FCC listing it supports the following US bands 12, 17, 13, 26, 5, 66, 4, 25, 2, 41 so aside from band 30 it has all the bands needed to work great on AT&T and T-Mobile.
It also has carrier aggregation with US bands with the following combinations:
2+12
4+12
4+17
12+12
66+17
41+41
66+66
and 3 band carrier aggregation at the following bands:
4+12+12
66+12+66
41+41+41
It's interesting that this year the international version includes Verizon and Sprint LTE bands but not CDMA bands (so not sure how will that work on those two networks).
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You keep mentioning this FCC stuff but im not sure why a phone meant for sale and use in countries outside the USA would be contacting our FCC?
954wrecker said:
You keep mentioning this FCC stuff but im not sure why a phone meant for sale and use in countries outside the USA would be contacting our FCC?
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Every phone model that wants to be allowed to enter the US (either if you are a foreigner and would like to come with it to the US or if you are a retailer who would like to import it to the US) must get FCC certified to makes sure it follows US wireless guidelines, does not cause interference with frequencies used in the US and has acceptable SAR levels.
clubtech said:
Every phone model that wants to be allowed to enter the US (either if you are a foreigner and would like to come with it to the US or if you are a retailer who would like to import it to the US) must get FCC certified to makes sure it follows US wireless guidelines, does not cause interference with frequencies used in the US and has acceptable SAR levels.
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Can you send a link that actually works with proof the F and FD international versions ever applied for FCC certification?
954wrecker said:
Can you send a link that actually works with proof the F and FD international versions ever applied for FCC certification?
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https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...id=y9iH3wwF54NP3e+s5fwinQ==&fcc_id=A3LSMG955F
Check "SAR Report 1" for the "proof" on the frequencies I stated earlier in the thread.
clubtech said:
That's not accurate for the S8 international unlocked variant this year.
According to the FCC listing it supports the following US bands 12, 17, 13, 26, 5, 66, 4, 25, 2, 41 so aside from band 30 it has all the bands needed to work great on AT&T and T-Mobile.
It also has carrier aggregation with US bands with the following combinations:
2+12
4+12
4+17
12+12
66+17
41+41
66+66
and 3 band carrier aggregation at the following bands:
4+12+12
66+12+66
41+41+41
It's interesting that this year the international version includes Verizon and Sprint LTE bands but not CDMA bands (so not sure how will that work on those two networks).
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AT&T rolled out both band 29 and 30 for LTE Advanced back at the same time the LG G3 came out.
http://www.fiercewireless.com/wirel...support-700-mhz-spectrum-it-got-from-qualcomm
So it's now official, after five phone calls and finally speaking with third tier T-Mobile tech support, I was told that my area was recently refarmed and I can no longer get 3G service with the 1900 band effectively making my X2 a brick capable of nothing more than Edge. Furthermore, he indicated to me that this is the way things will go into the future and eventually, T-Mobile will support nothing but 4G LTE service (bring your own device.... But not really.)
So where to go from here? I had heard on another forum that AT&T is still supporting 3G over band 1900; but I don't know if they allow you to bring your own phone to the party and I also don't know how long it will be until they themselves eliminate 3G service. Apart from that, I guess my quest is to still find the largest phone I can that will support 4G LTE data in the United States while continuing to hope and pray that Huawei gives us the present of a 7 inch premium phablet with US bands.
As always, I remain open to any other solutions anyone might have or any information that I'm unaware of. Today is a truly sad day for a guy who truly loved his mediapad X2 : (
steveyal said:
So it's now official, after five phone calls and finally speaking with third tier T-Mobile tech support, I was told that my area was recently refarmed and I can no longer get 3G service with the 1900 band effectively making my X2 a brick capable of nothing more than Edge. Furthermore, he indicated to me that this is the way things will go into the future and eventually, T-Mobile will support nothing but 4G LTE service (bring your own device.... But not really.)
So where to go from here? I had heard on another forum that AT&T is still supporting 3G over band 1900; but I don't know if they allow you to bring your own phone to the party and I also don't know how long it will be until they themselves eliminate 3G service. Apart from that, I guess my quest is to still find the largest phone I can that will support 4G LTE data in the United States while continuing to hope and pray that Huawei gives us the present of a 7 inch premium phablet with US bands.
As always, I remain open to any other solutions anyone might have or any information that I'm unaware of. Today is a truly sad day for a guy who truly loved his mediapad X2 : (
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Sorry to hear that about TMO. I have been pushing to move away from ATT because the prices don't compare. We moved to the "new" ATT unlimited plan and 5 phones run us $330/mo vs the previous $410/mo on their "discount" family plan. I too am sold on the X2 and I can't let it go. I don't see anything else like it out there. I considered Huawei's new 8-inch tablet but without a handset it would be tough to use on a daily basis. ATT still supports the 3G speeds, at least in the Kansas City area, but who knows if that will change. Several times they have changed something on their network and I have had to search and find new APN settings. There are a few alternatives that I've seen but none that can compete with the X2. If you see anything else, let me know.
Thanks!
Jim
Yep, they did the same in my area about 4 months ago.
The whole thing is terribly frustrating. Clearly there is a market (albeit small) for a seven inch phone, so why are we ignored? Blu made one with US 4G LTE bands but i hear it sucks and only has 1 gig of ram causing it to freeze every time you open an app. Posh made a nice 6.4 that I had for a while; but it was a refurb and call quality was terrible. Plus, they are very hard to find. Checked out the Lenovo Phab 2 line (6.4"), but I'm not impressed at all and the new Samsung Note looks like a dildo.
I just ordered an old (new stock) Galaxy Mega which I owned a few years ago and loved. ...but compared to the X2, it's a dwarf (guess I've been spoiled.) So at this point, I really have no other option but to try ATT (who I detest) for a month pre-paid to see if i can go back to getting consistent HSPA on my beloved X2.
I sure hope someone at some point wakes up and gives us what we need...but I ain't holding my breath.
I'm eagerly anticipating the Huawei Honor Note 9 because I feel it's the only device that will be comparable to our beloved X2. I check for new info everyday but so far nothing but some uncertain leaks from Chinese websites. Does anyone have any *new* info? Better yet a way for us loyalists to get much deserved discount would be nice.
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E--Man said:
I'm eagerly anticipating the Huawei Honor Note 9 because I feel it's the only device that will be comparable to our beloved X2. I check for new info everyday but so far nothing but some uncertain leaks from Chinese websites. Does anyone have any *new* info? Better yet a way for us loyalists to get much deserved discount would be nice.
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Looks like the same deal as the X2 unless they release a US version:
https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_honor_note_9-8799.php
According to this page (careful !!):
https://www.gsmarc.com/huawei/honor-note-9/
the LTE bands are LTE 2100, LTE 800, LTE 1800, LTE 2600, LTE 900, LTE 2300, LTE 2500, (VoLTE)
not so bad (for my country, only 700Mhz is missed)
But I'm a bit worried about the price of the phone
Just ordered this through Amazon. Looks promising and US bands too!!!!!
https://www.amazon.com/iRULU-Smartp...desktop?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&ref_=ya_aw_od_pi
steveyal said:
Just ordered this through Amazon. Looks promising and US bands too!!!!!
https://www.amazon.com/iRULU-Smartp...desktop?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&ref_=ya_aw_od_pi
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Let me know how you like it. It doesn't have band 12 on T-Mobile which sucks. I may have picked one of those up if it did. If you buy it directly through iRulu and use coupon code G3DEAL50 you'll get it for $149.99.
Steamer2499 said:
Not a bad phone... The Bad: But No led notification, GPS seems to jump around, No compass built in ... The Good: Fingerprint works great!, It has ATT 4G in the USA support, Battery life is good, ... If you get it rooted, please let me know how you did it....
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It could be my next toy to play around with as well. I loved the Mi Max. (which looks identical to the iRulu) I would give KingRoot a try to see if you can root it.
steveyal said:
Just ordered this through Amazon. Looks promising and US bands too!!!!!
https://www.amazon.com/iRULU-Smartp...desktop?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&ref_=ya_aw_od_pi
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Not a bad phone... The Bad: But No led notification, GPS seems to jump around, No compass built in, inserting sim card/sdcard takes patience ... The Good: Nougat 7.0, Fingerprint scanner works great!, It has ATT 4G in the USA support, Battery life is good, Push notification works great ... If you get it rooted, please let me know how you did it....
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ajsmsg78 said:
Let me know how you like it. It doesn't have band 12 on T-Mobile which sucks. I may have picked one of those up if it did. If you buy it directly through iRulu and use coupon code G3DEAL50 you'll get it for $149.99.
It could be my next toy to play around with as well. I loved the Mi Max. (which looks identical to the iRulu) I would give KingRoot a try to see if you can root it.
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I tried KingRoot, Kingoroot, One Click Root and others. Nothing has worked so far. I saw that 149.99 deal but like the fact I got it in 2 days with free shipping and no tax from Amazon Prime and can return it for a full refund with free shipping back to them no question asked...
Steamer2499 said:
Not a bad phone... The Bad: But No led notification, GPS seems to jump around, No compass built in, inserting sim card/sdcard takes patience ... The Good: Nougat 7.0, Fingerprint scanner works great!, It has ATT 4G in the USA support, Battery life is good, Push notification works great ... If you get it rooted, please let me know how you did it....
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I tried KingRoot, Kingoroot, One Click Root and others. Nothing has worked so far. I saw that 149.99 deal but like the fact I got it in 2 days with free shipping and no tax from Amazon Prime and can return it for a full refund with free shipping back to them no question asked...
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If those root options don't work then the phone most likely will never be rooted. I bought a ZTE Zmax Pro about 8 months back to use as a spare phone and that was never rooted so i'm sure the iRulu probably won't be.
steveyal said:
Just ordered this through Amazon. Looks promising and US bands too!!!!!
https://www.amazon.com/iRULU-Smartp...desktop?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&ref_=ya_aw_od_pi
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ajsmsg78 said:
Let me know how you like it. It doesn't have band 12 on T-Mobile which sucks. I may have picked one of those up if it did. If you buy it directly through iRulu and use coupon code G3DEAL50 you'll get it for $149.99.
It could be my next toy to play around with as well. I loved the Mi Max. (which looks identical to the iRulu) I would give KingRoot a try to see if you can root it.
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Thanks for posting this! It actually looks really good especially for the price, except for the fact that the battery is 4300mAh and I suspect Li-on not Li-Po. The price point is 10/10 and is simply amazing.
I wonder if a discount will be available on the upcoming Huawei Honor Note 9 as well... It is supposed to be released Dec 6 or 20
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E--Man said:
Thanks for posting this! It actually looks really good especially for the price, except for the fact that the battery is 4300mAh and I suspect Li-on not Li-Po. The price point is 10/10 and is simply amazing.
I wonder if a discount will be available on the upcoming Huawei Honor Note 9 as well... It is supposed to be released Dec 6 or 20
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The Huawei Honor Note 9 looks like the phone for me. Hope it's priced a lot lower than the Samsungs and Apple phones...
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The Huawei Honor Note 9 looks like the phone for me. Hope it's priced a lot lower than the Samsungs and Apple phones...
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Looks like a great phone...but I simply can't soak that kinda money into a phone that can't do LTE.
Steamer2499 said:
Not a bad phone... The Bad: But No led notification, GPS seems to jump around, No compass built in, inserting sim card/sdcard takes patience ... The Good: Nougat 7.0, Fingerprint scanner works great!, It has ATT 4G in the USA support, Battery life is good, Push notification works great ... If you get it rooted, please let me know how you did it....
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I tried KingRoot, Kingoroot, One Click Root and others. Nothing has worked so far. I saw that 149.99 deal but like the fact I got it in 2 days with free shipping and no tax from Amazon Prime and can return it for a full refund with free shipping back to them no question asked...
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Never rooted a phone before...and not really sure why you would want to (probably best I don't know : )
The comment about the GPS scares me...and could potentially be deal breaker for me. But the rest of it seems livable. Not sure what led notification is either, but I figure if I don't know what it is, it probably won't matter to me that I don't have it. Otherwise, I went with Amazon because of their no hassle return. For me, that's worth every bit of 50 bucks on something I'm unsure of.
So after one day with the iRulu, my impressions are thus,
For me, this is in no way a replacement for my Media Pad X2. The build quality is just not there.
First, the good: this is the largest screen phone that I could find with the bands to receive 4G LTE in the United States. There are other larger ones such as the Posh L 700 and the 7 inch model made by Blu, but I don't think either of these phones can be taken seriously with their pitiful 1 GB of RAM.
Second, the phone works reasonably well. I was able to watch YouTube videos without difficulty and surf the web just fine. It was easy to load on applications and most things work as they should. Bluetooth was fine, easily connecting with both my car stereo and my laptop computer. In short, this is a decent low to middle tier phone; but it is NOT a Huawei.
The bad: As I was loading on applications, the phone did randomly restart; but this was only on one occasion, so I don't really consider it to be a big deal at this point.
Second: The GPS is as horrible as reported. I put it on for goofs navigating to work; and several times while driving down 95, the GPS had me somewhere in the middle of the woods. I don't think it would have caused me to miss turns; especially if I was using Google maps audio turn by turn directions; but generally speaking, it does not work as it is supposed to.
Third: at least for me, the phone seemed small. That half an inch screen size between this and the media pad really made a large difference to me. I guess I'm just used to my Huawei, and I like what I like. I also didn't find the phone aesthetically pleasing, which is not really a big deal to me; but it lacks the perfection in design of the MPX2.
Fourth and the biggie: is that I purchased this phone because it had 4G LTE bands in the United States. I used the thing all day long driving around the state of New Jersey; and not once did the phone indicate that I was receiving 4G LTE signal. As a matter of fact, I believe that I get a better signal on the AT&T network with the HSPA bands in the Huawei.
Unfortunately, for me, it's a bust. I will be returning this on Amazon and continue my quest for a mega screen phone that has LTE bands in the United States. One might ask why I am so hung up about LTE bands if I seem to be getting good Signal with the Huawei. It is because I have been told by people at AT&T that my days of enjoying my media pad are numbered; because they will soon be moving to a system similar to T-Mobile that will render the media pad useless. This so-called 5G technology will essentially render most manufacturer unlocked phones useless for some time until the technology catches up. Hopefully, it will take longer to accomplish this so-called feat of progress than it will take for some manufacturer to realize that there is a market for a high-end super screen phone in the United States.
Oh well.....
> I don't know if they allow you to bring your own phone
Yes, I use AT&T prepaid and brought my own phone. Also I'm paying $55/month with 10GB data. The service is of course throttled to what I believe is 15MBPs or something, but it's better service from the other resellers like Straight Talk that use the same towers.
The resellers appear to get low-tier service (I used to be on ST and have tried some others, with some terrible issues).
In a few months I'm looking to buy this phone from Amazon and I was wondering if it worked with At&t or Verizon prepaid and will I get 4g Lte. If not what's a good carrier I can use this phone on. Also does it have WiFi calling?
I have this phone on AT&T in NY. It works but is very spotty because only 1 LTE band is available within the hardware. You'll get great pictures on it (which is why i wanted it to take better shots of the family) but you'll sometimes miss phone calls unless you are in a good area. In retrospect I should have researched a bit more and gone with maybe the xiaomi mi 9 for a bit more money and same camera. It has several more bands available for AT&T but no microsd card. If you can live with the spotty reception its very good for the price.
check out the site kimovil for bands on the phone.. google "redmi note 7 pro bands"
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I have this phone on AT&T in NY. It works but is very spotty because only 1 LTE band is available within the hardware. You'll get great pictures on it (which is why i wanted it to take better shots of the family) but you'll sometimes miss phone calls unless you are in a good area. In retrospect I should have researched a bit more and gone with maybe the xiaomi mi 9 for a bit more money and same camera. It has several more bands available for AT&T but no microsd card. If you can live with the spotty reception its very good for the price.
check out the site kimovil for bands on the phone.. google "redmi note 7 pro bands"
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Thanks for the reply but the service is not that great where I live. I'll probably get the umidigi f1 play because it's supposed to have 48mp camera with micro SD because I need my expandable storage lol
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Thanks for the reply but the service is not that great where I live. I'll probably get the umidigi f1 play because it's supposed to have 48mp camera with micro SD because I need my expandable storage lol
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Seems like a good choice with all the bands it has. Hopefully, some custom roms come along as maybe I'll switch to that too.
I was surprised how well this phone is supported on XDA and it looks quite good on paper, i have 1 question i cannot find answer to:
Does this phone support Carrier Aggregation in Europe? (4G+)
It you buy EU version then yes. If you buy India, China (RMQ) or any other version than EU then definitely not. So I heard.
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It you buy EU version then yes. If you buy India, China (RMQ) or any other version than EU then definitely not. So I heard.
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It's a small world.. lol.
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It's a small world.. lol.
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I am also planning buying this mobile in Pakistan. Here mostly Global Version are released. Is eu global version?
waqar bukhari said:
I am also planning buying this mobile in Pakistan. Here mostly Global Version are released. Is eu global version?
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Yes i think so, homever i got Mi 9 Lite (got really nice deal 6/128GB variant for $205)
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Yes i think so, homever i got Mi 9 Lite (got really nice deal 6/128GB variant for $205)
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Nice. But in my country mi 9 lite 6gb and realme xt 8gb are similarly priced. If I decides to increase my budget then I will go for realme xt. Sd712 over sd710.
According to realme support no it doesn't.
Also I'm based in Italy and can confirm you there is no sign of 4g+ even though I live near a Tri-Band bts (3-7-20) and my place is full of two and three bands bts.
Considering to return the phone for exactly this reason. My old op3t had full 4g+ in the same position
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It's a small world.. lol.
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Indeed, friend.
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According to realme support no it doesn't.
Also I'm based in Italy and can confirm you there is no sign of 4g+ even though I live near a Tri-Band bts (3-7-20) and my place is full of two and three bands bts.
Considering to return the phone for exactly this reason. My old op3t had full 4g+ in the same position
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I still can't believe eu version doesn't support 4g+. I mean did you check sites if they show whether or not this device supports it or not? I mean I definitely did before buying but I only see which bands does the device support. Not the technology (3g and 4g is present but I don't see 4g+). If you didn't check for it then why did you buy? If you did check but it was written to be present but it is not, shouldn't you get s full refund or device return + refund??
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I still can't believe eu version doesn't support 4g+. I mean did you check sites if they show whether or not this device supports it or not? I mean I definitely did before buying but I only see which bands does the device support. Not the technology (3g and 4g is present but I don't see 4g+). If you didn't check for it then why did you buy? If you did check but it was written to be present but it is not, shouldn't you get s full refund or device return + refund??
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I can't believe it either, it was a BIG surprise to see it lacks it. In 2019, ANY and i mean ANY device you buy got a form of CA, even a Huawei MTK I just bought for dad for 99 euros. Of course this is also specified, for example as you can see there is mention for LTE-A (which is LTE+)
https://www.gsmarena.com/realme_5_pro-9801.php
I couldn't believe it so I sent an email to Realme customer service asking if the phone indeed supported LTE-A like specified and like supported by its chipset (snapdragon 712 is a 3*20mhz capable chipset) and they replied "realme 5 pro doesn't support LTE+"
Then, after more than TEN days, they replied again to the same email by saying that they were sorry for the previous reply and that the phone DOES support LTE+ (is this a professional service?)
I asked them how I can check which bands gets aggregated and why there is no sign of a 4g+ or lte+ icons like all other phones and... they never replied
I've read around that Realme support is a total crap, but I really tried and hoped they can answer about specs of a phone they produce and sell directly.
To dig further another guy here on xda sent some network guru screenshots where it is clearly shown that it only can catch a single band and not multiple.
So at this point I'm thinking about it. I've got until 31/01/2020 to be able to get a full refund but kinda I still like the phone speed, but this network problem and the camera (which is the worst 48Mpixel sensor I've ever tried, but it seems to be a software issue) kills my willingness to keep it. I was also waiting if any new update can fix either of the problems so I guess I'll wait a lil more, but still I can't advice to buy this phone. Xiaomi on the same price level doesn't have any of these major issues even though their chipsets are a little behind.
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I can't believe it either, it was a BIG surprise to see it lacks it. In 2019, ANY and i mean ANY device you buy got a form of CA, even a Huawei MTK I just bought for dad for 99 euros. Of course this is also specified, for example as you can see there is mention for LTE-A (which is LTE+)
https://www.gsmarena.com/realme_5_pro-9801.php
I couldn't believe it so I sent an email to Realme customer service asking if the phone indeed supported LTE-A like specified and like supported by its chipset (snapdragon 712 is a 3*20mhz capable chipset) and they replied "realme 5 pro doesn't support LTE+"
Then, after more than TEN days, they replied again to the same email by saying that they were sorry for the previous reply and that the phone DOES support LTE+ (is this a professional service?)
I asked them how I can check which bands gets aggregated and why there is no sign of a 4g+ or lte+ icons like all other phones and... they never replied
I've read around that Realme support is a total crap, but I really tried and hoped they can answer about specs of a phone they produce and sell directly.
To dig further another guy here on xda sent some network guru screenshots where it is clearly shown that it only can catch a single band and not multiple.
So at this point I'm thinking about it. I've got until 31/01/2020 to be able to get a full refund but kinda I still like the phone speed, but this network problem and the camera (which is the worst 48Mpixel sensor I've ever tried, but it seems to be a software issue) kills my willingness to keep it. I was also waiting if any new update can fix either of the problems so I guess I'll wait a lil more, but still I can't advice to buy this phone. Xiaomi on the same price level doesn't have any of these major issues even though their chipsets are a little behind.
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Wow... Just wow. All these bits and pieces of info are priceless and shocking to me. Thank you. Me too, I prefer the speed of the phone, the battery and ufs file storage, furthermore vooc charging. Amazingly conformable for my hand as well. Overall I'm really in love with it but kind of hate it at the same tine. My major problems are camera and connectivity. Both are extremely crucial when you take a look at a smartphone. Btw even oneplus uses the same sensor as our device. A developer of rm5p guessed that perhaps the difference is using different lens, not the sensors. I'm not sure. Anyway, we know more now at least. It's a start.
waqar bukhari said:
Nice. But in my country mi 9 lite 6gb and realme xt 8gb are similarly priced. If I decides to increase my budget then I will go for realme xt. Sd712 over sd710.
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They are not similarly priced at all, mi 9 lite was on sale for 45,000 which is much cheaper than xt 54,000, sd712 vs sd710 very slight difference but 9 lite has its own advantages such as better selfie cam.
If you are looking to buy mi 9 lite box pack you can contact me, I can get you a good deal.
Users from eastern Europe/Europa, maybe from other parts of the world other than America report horrible google habits...
NO 5g. NO Volte! NO VoIP ! Sometimes No SIM detected (of course the SIM is in the phone) ! Can't use internet when you are in a call..
These people talk to phone companies (Orange, Vodafone, Telekom) about this Horrible problems . The answer was that stupid google block this options in these part of the world because they don't give a f*ck about people from these countries.
Could not satisfy google insatiable GREED! for money !
Do you friends have this on your Pixel 7 pro ? If so how do you even use the phone?..
Any of you have Graphene OS on your Pixel 7 pro ? These problems are still threre?
I post this because i want to buy Pixel 7 pro..
Thank you.
Happy new year !!! All the best !
If it was down to greed they would let the phones run fully everywhere and not give a toss whether it worked or not.
Meh, don't get me started...
Gookill is the worst. Anything higher than Android 10 sucks. Might as well be Apple now.
Same deal as MS did; Google wants to force you to use cloud rather than expandable storage. All the more user data for them to collect. Google is wholesale spreaders of disinformation, hype, biased censorship, and are highly politically biased/manipulative.
Recommendation; buy a Note 10+ running on Android 9 or 10. No variable refresh rate display but better color/gamma accuracy and calibration. Good cams and up to 1tb expandable storage.
A long lived dependable workhouse that gets good SOT and runs like a bat out of hell. Even though it's 3 yo it keeps pace with the newest flagships for most tasks, only slightly slower and sometimes faster. Almost always gets better SOT. Excellent form factor, balance and build quality. Runs well stock once optimized. If you want to stay stock the Snapdragon variants are the best.
I didn't understand what you mean. I have two devices in the family. one with GOS and one original Stock. Both are working without any problems.
There aren't many reports either about the problems you are mentioning, at least not in Germany.
Germany is not really in the middle of nowhere now is it? Just like the Netherlands where I live.
Never be the first to buy a new phone and do your research before buying.
I do have to agree that this phone has its share of issues, minor ones but nevertheless.
My stock dialer just doesn't work, replaced it.VERY annoying!
My stock camera app goes black after a couple of shots when shooting at night. Booting fixes it. VERY annoying!
The stock launcher is so basic and with the un-removable search bar. Replaced by Lawnchair. VERY annoying!
What else...
I do love the phone though, battery life for one is truly epic, photo quality likewise!
I'm in Italy, on TIM provider, no such issue. I have 5G, VoLTE, I can use internet when calling and my SIM is always detected. My provider is testing VoIP now, but I'm not interested as I'm on an unlimited 5G plan.
My dialer and camera app work perfectly.
Stock launcher is stock launcher, you have a ton to choose from. If you prefer a wholy stock phone, buy an iPhone.
I suggest to edit title to "Horrible Google in Germany".
It's also not a Germany problem. I have 2 Prepaid Sims in (blau (o2network) and a vodafone callya as esim). For both volte is working without problem, the vodafone one also have 5g, no problems with dialer or anything else....
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Germany is not really in the middle of nowhere now is it? Just like the Netherlands where I live.
Never be the first to buy a new phone and do your research before buying.
I do have to agree that this phone has its share of issues, minor ones but nevertheless.
My stock dialer just doesn't work, replaced it.VERY annoying!
My stock camera app goes black after a couple of shots when shooting at night. Booting fixes it. VERY annoying!
The stock launcher is so basic and with the un-removable search bar. Replaced by Lawnchair. VERY annoying!
What else...
I do love the phone though, battery life for one is truly epic, photo quality likewise!
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The stock launcher should be fast, stable and very user customizable. One reason I like Samsung's... lol, at least the N10+ as their hardware after this just doesn't hit the mark. The N9 is way too slow to be practical. Pixel's philosophy is sort of one size vanilla fits all and lacks needed customization options in my opinion. Clearly if you need to resort to using a 3rd party launcher Pixel fell short of meeting your needs with this core UI application. *meh*
After Android 10 Google Android went to scoped storage dumb bunny hell. Pie is still my preferred OS. This 3 yo flagship with 3 yo firmware provides a better overall user experience, balance and functionality in my opinion. It's a joy to use and very capable. It's not drowning in needless security protocols or hardware bloat... it just works day after day. Security for me is simply not an issue in real time usage; this load is over 2.5 yo, still fast, stable with no known security breaches. I use a few modifications and practices but nothing too drastic on this stock Android to achieve this. I spend very little time doing maintenance and troubleshooting.
So yeah, not liking Google's or Samsung's constant ball drops. No slam dunks, for years now. Pathetic.
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If it was down to greed they would let the phones run fully everywhere and not give a toss whether it worked or not.
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NO !
Only sale in Rich country's ! That's GREED .
Germany is Not a poor conuntry.
About google...
Google destroyed OxygenOS with his creap apps. Now "works" to annihilate Motorola UI.
Icreap is poop. Prison! To decode an icreap is called jail break.
Samsung is full of bloatware & the BS with ecosystem... And the Really Slow charging... Samsung Note 10+ 5g is the most beautifull phone for me. In my case was slow. Oneplus 8 Pro.. compared to Note 10+ was flying.
Back to Pixel 7 pro. My hope was that someone have Graphene Os on the phone and all the blocking is gone. With the Privacy of Graphene, too.
The problems i mentioned are in Romania & other eastern Europe.
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I didn't understand what you mean. I have two devices in the family. one with GOS and one original Stock. Both are working without any problems.
There aren't many reports either about the problems you are mentioning, at least not in Germany.
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NO !
Only sale in Rich country's ! That's GREED .
Germany is Not a poor conuntry.
About google...
Google destroyed OxygenOS with his creap apps. Now "works" to annihilate Motorola UI.
Icreap is poop. Prison! To decode an icreap is called jail break.
Samsung is full of bloatware & the BS with ecosystem... And the Really Slow charging... Samsung Note 10+ 5g is the most beautifull phone for me. In my case was slow. Oneplus 8 Pro.. compared to Note 10+ was flying.
Back to Pixel 7 pro. My hope was that someone have Graphene Os on the phone and all the blocking is gone. With the Privacy of Graphene, too.
The problems i mentioned are in Romania & other eastern Europe.
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So how come the Pixel 5a was only sold in 2 countries if that was genuinly the case?
This topic is a little bit of rage, but to put things into perspective. OP is right at some points. I live in Slovakia and I have had so far:
Pixel 5
Pixel 6
Pixel 6 Pro
Pixel 7
Pixel 7 Pro
And neither of them was fully functional in Slovakia. What I mean by that? VoLTE/VoWiFi/5G are not working with any of the available carriers. I have checked with them all personally. They have proved and confirmed the issues are on the Google side.
In order to achieve full functionality, you must root the phone and use all sort of mods to enable all of the features. And to this day, I am not sure why is Google doing this. For this reason only I am switching between my Z Fold4 and iPhone 14 Pro. The moment Google will finally and kindly enable 100% of functionality to its Pixel devices in every country, I am getting it full time.
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I'm in Italy, on TIM provider, no such issue. I have 5G, VoLTE,
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Works because it has carrier configs made by Google for TIM (222-01)
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Users from eastern Europe/Europa, maybe from other parts of the world other than America report horrible google habits...
NO 5g. NO Volte! NO VoIP !
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That's because Google has a very bad habit to play like they're Apple (on network side)
But with no significant market share
"The carrier should contact us to ""certify"" our phone to their network"
which translates in
"Won't enable anything until X carrier contacts us to add their network to our internal whitelist"
Funny enough, that problem exist even with "certified" carriers, like windtre (222-88) where you can't use their N78 60mhz only because Google ""certified"" only 40mhz N78 max for them, doesn't matter if with other phones even 150€ everything works perfectly
That problem will exist with other carriers if they will have more spectrum than allowed by their carrier policies (like EE [UK network] if they will merge their N78 blocks)
Is it country specific? I'm in the UK and I have been with 3 different providers/operators since I have had my Pixel 7 Pro. Here it seems more down to the telecom operator.
The first - No 5G, no VoWiFi, No VoLTE
The second - No 5G, no VoWiFi, No VoLTE
Now on my 3rd provider where I get 5G, VoWiFi, and VoLTE
The first two simply say they do not support the device. I'm not sure why that would be, they also didn't 'sell' any current Pixel Phones.
Is there a charge or operating cost to Google (or someone else) to support a device with the extra network functionality? Maybe the operator doesn't believe it's worth paying for the smaller number of potential customers with that device. Or maybe some operators never get the choice to activate those features based on their country/region? Who knows.
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Is it country specific? I'm in the UK and I have been with 3 different providers/operators since I have had my Pixel 7 Pro. Here it seems more down to the telecom operator.
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Not, more like carrier specific
Are the first two providers MVNO?
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Not, more like carrier specific
Are the first two providers MVNO?
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All 3 have been MVNO. One uses O2, one Vodafone, and the final is Three (Hutchison UK)
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All 3 have been MVNO. One uses O2, one Vodafone, and the final is Three (Hutchison UK)
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The first - No 5G, no VoWiFi, No VoLTE
The second - No 5G, no VoWiFi, No VoLTE
Now on my 3rd provider where I get 5G, VoWiFi, and VoLTE
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Odd. I'm in the UK and I'm on Vodafone UK on pay monthly, using a Pixel 7 Pro bought from Very so it's network unbranded and unlocked. I took delivery mid October just after release date and I have had fully working 5G and VoLTE since day one and voice over WiFi has worked since the November update.
Not sure what you could have been doing wrong.
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Odd. I'm in the UK and I'm on Vodafone UK on pay monthly, using a Pixel 7 Pro bought from Very so it's network unbranded and unlocked. I took delivery mid October just after release date and I have had fully working 5G and VoLTE since day one and voice over WiFi has worked since the November update.
Not sure what you could have been doing wrong.
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They were MVNO's not the main network.
First was Sky Mobile (who use O2)
Second was Lebara (who use Vodafone)
Third is Smarty (who use Three)
Sky and Lebara could have opened access for 5G/VoLTE/VoWiFi for Pixel phones but chose not to for whatever reason. The parent networks they run on (O2 and Vodafone) allow access to these features on Pixel devices. So it is not the physical network, it is the carrier choosing not to allow access.
Thankfully Smarty do allow access to all features for Pixel devices.
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They were MVNO's not the main network.
First was Sky Mobile (who use O2)
Second was Lebara (who use Vodafone)
Third is Smarty (who use Three)
Sky and Lebara could have opened access for 5G/VoLTE/VoWiFi for Pixel phones but chose not to for whatever reason. The parent networks they run on (O2 and Vodafone) allow access to these features on Pixel devices. So it is not the physical network, it is the carrier choosing not to allow access.
Thankfully Smarty do allow access to all features for Pixel devices.
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Understood. I'm moving when my contract is up in March, and likely to Talk Mobile who is an MVNO owned by Vodafone and who use their network. My son currently uses them so I will check with his sim card before moving.
Issue for me is that 3 are totally toilet in my area in terms of signal so I can't use Smarty.
Like i wrote in OP, users of Pixel 7 Pro complain to Orange, Vodafone, Telekom phone companies. The answer was that google block these options & they colud do nothing about it, because of google don't let them.
I want to buy the phone, but it works horrible in my country.