Warning on updating to android 9 pie!!! - LG V20 Guides, News, & Discussion

You will lose the possibility of recording calls with ACR or any other recording program!!! Google Crazy nutcase house again as usual.
Think about it before updating, I had forgotten all about it and was looking forward for an update to see if it was to fix one issue I have with it - I had looked at the new features on Googletube yet now I don't want to update any longer. I had planned to wait for the update and then reset my phone, but I'm going to that now to see if I can fix a problem with my none rooted LG 20 in regards of charging. But most likely an hardware issue after I tried a foreign Quick charger Adapter from Huawei for it. *But I have 2 Battery Chargers that still works so flipping battery*
So don't do that!!! I thought that I might get 0.2 Amps more out of it - making the charging to a bit quicker as it is made for 9 volts and 2 amps and not 1.8 amps as the LG.
In any case, think before you update to Android Pie - if you want to lose the option of recording calls.
May Jehovah be with thee
- Anders

There's no rooted phone recorder solution?

baldybill said:
There's no rooted phone recorder solution?
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You will loose other features like the Quad DAC for music as far as I know if you Jailbreak it.
I think there might be ways to record if you Root it - but I don't know of the stability or how to do that in the first place. I don't want to lose my Quad DAC and whatever issues I might have by rooting it. I remember how many issues I had on my Note 2 special edition after I rooted it and I'm not going there with my LG V20.

Just wanted to let you guys know - as I had forgotten this insanity and actually looked forward to the update when I heard it was just around the corner. Now, I don't really care much for Pie and I will stay with the older version.

Jesus is God Almighty said:
You will loose other features like the Quad DAC for music as far as I know if you Jailbreak it.
I think there might be ways to record if you Root it - but I don't know of the stability or how to do that in the first place. I don't want to lose my Quad DAC and whatever issues I might have by rooting it. I remember how many issues I had on my Note 2 special edition after I rooted it and I'm not going there with my LG V20.
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that is only if you use a non stock based rom. rooting does not make you loose features roms that dont support those features make you loose those features... With root you can actually enable quad Dac for more things and modify many other things and get rid of bloatware 100% not half assedly.

mirrin said:
that is only if you use a non stock based rom. rooting does not make you loose features roms that dont support those features make you loose those features... With root you can actually enable quad Dac for more things and modify many other things and get rid of bloatware 100% not half assedly.
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You sure about that? Any video on this - so you say if I root my V20, I will have every feature working if I continue to keep the standard Rom? I want to be certain on this before even thinking of going that direction!

By the way, what V20 do you have? How did you get Pie already? Thanks!

Jesus is God Almighty said:
You sure about that? Any video on this - so you say if I root my V20, I will have every feature working if I continue to keep the standard Rom? I want to be certain on this before even thinking of going that direction!
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/rom-vs995-alpha-rom-v1-1-t3709727 this is the rom i am on
Alpha Omega is just a debloated/tuned stock ROM. You wont lose anything you will gain. Right now there are 2 options stock android(lineageos bases) or stock lg (oreo or nougat based roms from your own carrier)
with Lineage based roms you lose 2nd screen and some don't have volte or wifi calling (my current rom wifi calling works and it sucks...turned it off for clearer calls)
with stock everything your phone shipped with works.
Rooting gives you:
YouTube Vanced
Systemless system-wide hosts-based ad blocking
Remove image retention without needing a screen overlay app
Systemless DNS (I use CloudFlare)
Google Phone
Doze Play Services
Change system fonts (I use Product Sans)
Systemless Xposed
Block services
Debloated system apps on device without ADB
viper4android
And much more.

There's at least one Magisk Mod that lets you record both sides of the conversation even in Pie (so the writeup says).

This works great on my V20 on A-O Oreo. Native call recording:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/themes/enable-native-call-recording-lg-v30-t3869260

pistacios said:
This works great on my V20 on A-O Oreo. Native call recording:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/themes/enable-native-call-recording-lg-v30-t3869260
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Yes it does, I was the guinea pig that tried running it on a V20 first lol. It should work on any stock LG Oreo based ROMs.
But this is about recording on Pie. AFAIK even newer LG's that shipped with Pie no longer have this feature.
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Awesome, just reading back on my past... I tend to forget everything when going to another subject.
I just got another V20, so I'm looking into things at the moment for rooting, never got around it with the other as I never dared afraid of ruining it. My first V20 is broken on so many levels, and just got a new used one, looks decent overall although another variant then what I had sadly. But... At the moment trying to work things out and get on the right track but as usual it takes time to get there.

mirrin said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/rom-vs995-alpha-rom-v1-1-t3709727 this is the rom i am on
Alpha Omega is just a debloated/tuned stock ROM. You wont lose anything you will gain. Right now there are 2 options stock android(lineageos bases) or stock lg (oreo or nougat based roms from your own carrier)
with Lineage based roms you lose 2nd screen and some don't have volte or wifi calling (my current rom wifi calling works and it sucks...turned it off for clearer calls)
with stock everything your phone shipped with works.
Rooting gives you:
YouTube Vanced
Systemless system-wide hosts-based ad blocking
Remove image retention without needing a screen overlay app
Systemless DNS (I use CloudFlare)
Google Phone
Doze Play Services
Change system fonts (I use Product Sans)
Systemless Xposed
Block services
Debloated system apps on device without ADB
viper4android
And much more.
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Seems they stopped working on the Rom you where talking about, I was thinking that it might be the way to go now some years later with a used new V20... Although not sure if it is worth anything if works was discontinued.
Still trying to get everything fixed here as I want it.

sheik124 said:
Yes it does, I was the guinea pig that tried running it on a V20 first lol. It should work on any stock LG Oreo based ROMs.
But this is about recording on Pie. AFAIK even newer LG's that shipped with Pie no longer have this feature.
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Yup and one must have Recording! It is an awesome feature to have on so many levels.

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Lg g3 getting Android 6.0 Marshmallow

Looks like are carriers are going to get it.
http://www.vcpost.com/articles/9055...-mobile-carriers-prepping-6-0-marshmallow.htm
flex3269 said:
Looks like are carriers are going to get it.
http://www.vcpost.com/articles/9055...-mobile-carriers-prepping-6-0-marshmallow.htm
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Now we just wait to see how long it will take AT&T to actually release the update.
aybarrap1 said:
Now we just wait to see how long it will take AT&T to actually release the update.
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More than likely we will be getting the update in about 3-6 months.
Leasj said:
More than likely we will be getting the update in about 3-6 months.
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NOOOO, I want it now!!! (Been hangin around my kids too long...)
That said, Is there a stable 6.0.1 ATT G3 ROM out there? STABLE being the key word.
I really want to be running MM, I have heard great things about it's smoothness and DOZE feature to extend battery life.
If there is a stable ROM, I'll root and install.
jivenene said:
NOOOO, I want it now!!! (Been hangin around my kids too long...)
That said, Is there a stable 6.0.1 ATT G3 ROM out there? STABLE being the key word.
I really want to be running MM, I have heard great things about it's smoothness and DOZE feature to extend battery life.
If there is a stable ROM, I'll root and install.
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Nothing STABLE yet. That said, I've been running CM13 for over a month and I love it. Builds are unofficial but the latest builds in the dev forum are really fast, stable and have GPS working (for the first time ever for me, even with KK and LL). I run it with the 777 kernel and it's perfect for me.
jivenene said:
NOOOO, I want it now!!! (Been hangin around my kids too long...)
That said, Is there a stable 6.0.1 ATT G3 ROM out there? STABLE being the key word.
I really want to be running MM, I have heard great things about it's smoothness and DOZE feature to extend battery life.
If there is a stable ROM, I'll root and install.
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Resurrection Remix is stable and I like it a lot.
Leasj said:
Resurrection Remix is stable and I like it a lot.
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Is Android 6.0?
josemiliano said:
Is Android 6.0?
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yep. http://oadam11.com/LG_G3/
chuckhriczko said:
Nothing STABLE yet. That said, I've been running CM13 for over a month and I love it. Builds are unofficial but the latest builds in the dev forum are really fast, stable and have GPS working (for the first time ever for me, even with KK and LL). I run it with the 777 kernel and it's perfect for me.
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Thanks for the feedback. I saw also (in subsequent posts) that the RR MM 6.0 ROM is also stable. I have never run CM before, so can anyone enlighten me so I don't have to drop 8 hours testing out both ROMs.... my questions are:
1) Which has a better camera experience? CM or RR? Stable, no FC.
2) which is more stable with less problems (ie, GPS, BT, no SD card, no 4G data, etc...)
3) which has better battery life?
4) Do either support device encryption? That was one of the major improvements in MM that no one seems to be talking about.
Thanks alot for the replies, and thanks to the developers for creating these, you guys and gals are awesome!
No camera app will work well other than stock as proprietary drivers and algorithms are used.
autosurgeon said:
No camera app will work well other than stock as proprietary drivers and algorithms are used.
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Do I have to use an aftermarket camera app like I did on SlimROMs? I used Open Camera. While it worked, it was sssslllloooowwww and sometimes caused the camera to crash, at which point I would have to pull the battery for it to work again (really annoying when you are trying to get Kindergarten graduation pics of your son...). I uninstalled it and reinstalled it, and those problems went away though. Android is so weird...
For this reason, I will never ever to get inside a google autonomous car. I'm gonna be the last old timer left, and everyone will ridicule me. "In my day, WE drove! And we liked it! We loved it!"
No aftermarket app will change the fact that you will be missing the LG firmware.
Personally I love the way LG has the camera setup where I can just tap the screen it focuses then snaps it. No LG camera on 3rd party rom so I went back to stock. If your phone is as important to you as you claim given all the questions you asked it would be worth your while to wait for the official update as I will. Let the rest test and be dissatisfied with the problems and lack of features. Note that I haven't had a crash or freeze since I got away from cm12
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Personally I love the way LG has the camera setup where I can just tap the screen it focuses then snaps it. No LG camera on 3rd party rom so I went back to stock. If your phone is as important to you as you claim given all the questions you asked it would be worth your while to wait for the official update as I will. Let the rest test and be dissatisfied with the problems and lack of features. Note that I haven't had a crash or freeze since I got away from cm12
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Point taken, but I don't think I'll get the official OTA MM anyway because I am not on ATT, but on Cricket. Or would I just download from XDA and flash it myself?
Did you still root and debloat the stock ROM? Or just leave it completely stock?
jivenene said:
Point taken, but I don't think I'll get the official OTA MM anyway because I am not on ATT, but on Cricket. Or would I just download from XDA and flash it myself?
Did you still root and debloat the stock ROM? Or just leave it completely stock?
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After trying many a many roms here for both d851 and d850 (My son and mine), I would definitely stick with stock if you take pics. The d851 is actually in better shape (mm wise) as it has a supported CM13, but the camera is poor. As for cricket- my understanding is that some phones get att updates, and some don't. If an update doesn't happen after you know mm has been released, you can wait a week or two and it very well may be posted here to flash- or you can pick up a att go phone sim for a couple of bucks and flash, then drop the cricket sim back in.
And yes you can root & debloat, but I haven't seen a prepackaged 20g (that has the stagefright patch) debloated yet. I just use super uninstaller app from the play store, which requires root.
here I am just stock with root & recovery (if needed) haven't found a need to use either yet but I like having the option available.
I have all the stock crummy at&t apps disabled because actually "removing" them requires quite a bit of time that I haven't yet found.
If I install cm13 or RR do I lose the LG IR remote?
I don't think there is a custom IR remote apk for MM yet like there is for lollipop.
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I stick to stock based ROMs because of the camera problems on AOSP ROMs. I don't use my camera often, but when I do I want it to work well. I will wait for 6 to be released.
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aybarrap1 said:
I stick to stock based ROMs because of the camera problems on AOSP ROMs. I don't use my camera often, but when I do I want it to work well. I will wait for 6 to be released.
Sent from my awesome phone.
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What is a good stock ROM you would recommend?

Why is this place so dead?

Usually a flagship worth an unlocked boot loader is full of development and such, but this Note 5 seems to have very little activity for such device.
Why is that?
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Well, for me, I'm not seeing much reason to run any custom ROMs and I use Samsung Pay often. Also, there's no AOSP development because AOSP doesn't play well with Exynos.
PDXMatt said:
Well, for me, I'm not seeing much reason to run any custom ROMs and I use Samsung Pay often. Also, there's no AOSP development because AOSP doesn't play well with Exynos.
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This. It's the fact that it's an Exynos device. We've got plenty of TouchWiz based ROMs, which are totally fine for me, but the general attitude I see outside the Samsung forums is AOSP or GTFO.
I just got my Note 5 this past weekend. I upgrade from Note 4.
Yes I notice not much activities here at all.
Devs are waiting for MM to drop
Also we can flash all of the International Roms and Dr.Ketan's audio fix, so no need to port them.
Jammol said:
Also we can flash all of the International Roms and Dr.Ketan's audio fix, so no need to port them.
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I was actually wondering that, I didn't find anything saying it was possible but was hoping it was since that is what I did with my Note 4. any INT rom is possible? and how are they running?
DiGi91 said:
I was actually wondering that, I didn't find anything saying it was possible but was hoping it was since that is what I did with my Note 4. any INT rom is possible? and how are they running?
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Any international Rom is possible. I have literally flashed all of them and they all run just fine for me.
I have a N920T so hopefully that's also the variant you have?
Flash the kernel for your variant: Arter or Skyhigh or even the Stock Rootable Kernel by Jovy.
Flash Rom and any mods they have.
Flash Audio fix by Dr.Ketan: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2YDky4L5v-4c0x1Z3hZQ3UteFk
That's it!
ZPaul2Fresh8 said:
Usually a flagship worth an unlocked boot loader is full of development and such, but this Note 5 seems to have very little activity for such device.
Why is that?
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well I have been buying, rooting and romming Samsung phones for the past four years and with the Note 5 the theme engine handles my theming needs, rooting means you can't use Samsung pay, which I use almost everyday and there are no custom roms because of the xynos processor. I have system wide ad blocking without root and don't want to root only for touchwiz Roms when the stock Samsung software is running so well, surprisingly.
chong67 said:
I just got my Note 5 this past weekend. I upgrade from Note 4.
Yes I notice not much activities here at all.
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Downgraded to lol
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Cleva1 said:
Downgraded to lol
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Or nah
calvin35 said:
well I have been buying, rooting and romming Samsung phones for the past four years and with the Note 5 the theme engine handles my theming needs, rooting means you can't use Samsung pay, which I use almost everyday and there are no custom roms because of the xynos processor. I have system wide ad blocking without root and don't want to root only for touchwiz Roms when the stock Samsung software is running so well, surprisingly.
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Question how do you have system wide ad blocking? Also any way to boost sound volume with no root. I have searched and haven't really found anything.......anyone can feel free to chime in here.
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Question how do you have system wide ad blocking? Also any way to boost sound volume with no root. I have searched and haven't really found anything.......anyone can feel free to chime in here.
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I also want to know more about this system-wide ad blocking that doesn't require root.
I rooted my Note5 as soon as I got it, not knowing it would permanently disable my ability to use Samsung Pay. (Yep, I should have researched it, but didn't. Mea culpa.)
But the main reason I root is for AdAway -- if I had the same results without rooting, I'd have at least considered not rooting. Samsung Pay sounds pretty sweet. :\
Jammol said:
Any international Rom is possible. I have literally flashed all of them and they all run just fine for me.
I have a N920T so hopefully that's also the variant you have?
Flash the kernel for your variant: Arter or Skyhigh or even the Stock Rootable Kernel by Jovy.
Flash Rom and any mods they have.
Flash Audio fix by Dr.Ketan: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2YDky4L5v-4c0x1Z3hZQ3UteFk
That's it!
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Sweet! Just like the Note 4.. I'll have to check it out then. I do remember some hiccups with the Note 4 running INT ROMs so I hope I won't run into any of that. Probably going to try out Dr.Ketan.
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Question how do you have system wide ad blocking? Also any way to boost sound volume with no root. I have searched and haven't really found anything.......anyone can feel free to chime in here.
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I don't know anything about boosting the sound volume because I haven't looked or really felt the need. For the ad blocking I use this app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/adguard-ad-blocker-doesnt-require-root-t2958895
If you just want ads in the browser blocked it's free. It works really well for me and even though it will show as using a lot of battery that is only due to the way the app works and handles data.
calvin35 said:
I don't know anything about boosting the sound volume because I haven't looked or really felt the need. For the ad blocking I use this app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/adguard-ad-blocker-doesnt-require-root-t2958895
If you just want ads in the browser blocked it's free. It works really well for me and even though it will show as using a lot of battery that is only due to the way the app works and handles data.
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Thank u very much for the info
For system-wide ad blocking (I am not rooted) I use Adblock Plus. https://adblockplus.org/android-install
Go to the link at the bottom that says "Download Adblock Plus for Android"
Now what you have to do is make sure that Adblock Plus is never "optimized" and you don't ever kill it because it's running a localhost proxy (if you do, you lose internet until you start the app again.) You go into your APN settings and create a new APN that looks exactly like the one you already have, except that you use a proxy, localhost, on port 2020. Whenever you connect to Wifi, you use a proxy, localhost, 2020. It's not the best solution because it isn't invisible (it's always in your notifications otherwise Android can kill it to save memory) and you have to do the APN/WiFi changes as I just specified, but it's far less intrusive than ads all over the place.
calvin35 said:
well I have been buying, rooting and romming Samsung phones for the past four years and with the Note 5 the theme engine handles my theming needs, rooting means you can't use Samsung pay, which I use almost everyday and there are no custom roms because of the xynos processor. I have system wide ad blocking without root and don't want to root only for touchwiz Roms when the stock Samsung software is running so well, surprisingly.
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Actually, I think one of the reasons there are not as many roms this time around is Samsung also had limited release of the Note 5 - it was originally internationally released in ASIA but not in Europe. I also think many of the major devs who normally are seen on the Flagship devices - didn't come along with the NOTE 5 because of BATTERY, No SD CARD, XYNOS and cost. Those four things kept many of the developers away (IMHO)
its a shame because it is a fabulous device despite those things. I will say that the Devs who did decide to join the Note 5 have done incredible work - there are some great roms out there. Just not as much variety. I also believe AOSP will eventually be done for the Note 5. There are several other examples of XyNOS phones and tablets getting AOSP - it is just a matter of time (and very hard work on the part of those who are working on it)
I'm not one to complain much but yeah I agree the Note 5 has been disappointing development wise i guess due to exynos. I might get the S7 as it's supposed to have snapdragon back which is supposed to be more developer friendly.
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For system-wide ad blocking (I am not rooted) I use Adblock Plus. https://adblockplus.org/android-install
Go to the link at the bottom that says "Download Adblock Plus for Android"
Now what you have to do is make sure that Adblock Plus is never "optimized" and you don't ever kill it because it's running a localhost proxy (if you do, you lose internet until you start the app again.) You go into your APN settings and create a new APN that looks exactly like the one you already have, except that you use a proxy, localhost, on port 2020. Whenever you connect to Wifi, you use a proxy, localhost, 2020. It's not the best solution because it isn't invisible (it's always in your notifications otherwise Android can kill it to save memory) and you have to do the APN/WiFi changes as I just specified, but it's far less intrusive than ads all over the place.
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If you don't use a VPN on your device, Adguard is much easier. It makes a loop VPN and filters all traffic.
https://m.adguard.com/en/welcome.html
As for the topic at hand I'm not getting another Exynos device... I've been really upset by the lack of ROMs and Samsung hasn't exactly been great with updates either.
I just hope that the Snapdragon Kryo cores don't pose a developer issue...

Android One is a massive failure and why I am downgrading back to Oreo

Hello, I am officially downgrading back to Oreo now due to not seeing bugfixes from Xiaomi for several months on common problems reported by many people to Xiaomi ever since Android Pie update was pushed. They did not fix anything, and it does not look like they will either.
Let me debunk for you my thoughts on Android One and how Xiaomi has handled it:
- We are guaranteed two major updates and security patches, but we are not guaranteed any stability or bugfixes! This is just a cheap update to Android Pie with only security updates being pushed, and I find it absolutely unacceptable. Xiaomi probably does not want to give resources to such a unpopular not profitable or well-selling device (compared to their other devices and MIUI) and are just delivering the minimal they have to in order to stick to and fulfil the conditions set in the Android One project.
- I noticed not only lower battery lifetime, but also several bugs. This includes completely random MASSIVE lags in for example something as simple as using Google Maps (nothing else being used on my phone when lagging!)
- My Wi-Fi not working well at all taking a long time to scan and connect, not being able to connect to hidden networks AT ALL
- Random crashes even when I was on my way to an important exam and even "freezing" up in calls and weird buzzing screeching noises in calls.
- I have LTE, but I cannot call over VoLTE or VoWiFi, because this phone does not have the support for my carrier. My phone calls now go through 2G! While my Apple, Samsung and Huawei friends are laughing at me.
- My friend reported one of his speakers DIED on him not even half a year after the purchase.
Note, I have done factory resets, I have tried to give it a chance, but it just doesn't improve. This is a horrible device, and that is my 2 cents.
You should not buy phones just from the specifications you see it has, you should care about plenty a other things that might be wrong. I have decided to go back to Oreo, and at least have a decent device, and I think you should too, which is why I am sharing this with you. Will I buy another phone from Xiaomi? I am not so sure after this ...
How you do it is simple, you just download the latest Oreo OTA: V9.6.10.0.ODLMIFF, do OEM unlocking and flash it using flash_all_lock_crc.sh on Linux or the flash_all_lock_crc.bat on Windows (will erase all data NB)
Join me downgrading to Oreo, WARNING: Only at your own risk!
Need drivers, download the fasboot package binary for Linux or Windows from Google and install Xiaomi ADB/Fastboot drivers, for Linux it is not necessary when I tried it:
Windows: https://dl.google.com/android/repository/platform-tools-latest-windows.zip
Linux: https://dl.google.com/android/repository/platform-tools-latest-linux.zip
Mac: https://dl.google.com/android/repository/platform-tools-latest-darwin.zip
1. Download the latest 8.1 OTA http://bigota.d.miui.com/V9.6.11.0....0.ODLMIFF_20181112.0000.00_8.1_8028e3bf1c.tgz
2. Enable developers options by tapping the build number in about phone multiple times, and in developer options enable OEM unlocking
3. Shut the phone down, hold the volume down when plugging it into the PC or hold the volume down + power to enter fastboot mode (you should see it say fastboot and the Mitu mascot).
4. OEM unlock using command "fastboot oem unlock" WARNING: Full data wipe, unless you hold volume down you might be able to stop this, look for other threads on xda-developers for this.
5. Flash using flash_all_lock_crc.sh on Linux or the flash_all_lock_crc.bat on Windows, maybe you can use the ones without data wipe, again you should take backup of your important data!
6. Enjoy a not so terrible device
Now I just have to figure out how to stop auto-downloading of May OTA and notifications about updating, probably needs root?
EDIT:
Can go into Developer Options and disable Automatic system updates
I complete agree with you bro, Android One is almost like we are beta testers for all the time. My Mi A2 lite give me some annoying issues:
1) Bluetooth don't work proprely with my sound car system (freeze the music when I take in my hands or the road shake the device);
2) Autofocus don't work for Gcam in low light and even in the stock app camera the focus isn't correct edge to edge, making some softness in the corners;
3) Hotspot wifi router works for some minutes and for nothing the mobile data stop.
4) Ram management is a rubbish, just opening the camera any other application reload;
After all I understand Samsung and others Brands for delay updates, at least is not full of bugs like Xiaomi (same with MIUI).
if you only downgrade, without patches or fixes, android 8.1 will be a pain in the ...
the anti-roll back politic of xiaomi only makes harder to downgrade...
NeoZX58 said:
if you only downgrade, without patches or fixes, android 8.1 will be a pain in the ...
the anti-roll back politic of xiaomi only makes harder to downgrade...
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And about customs ROMs? They are more stable and bugfixeds than stock or not reliable yet? Actually I prefer to install Pixel Experience (Pie) and not downgrade to Oreo.
I like pir granted I never use stock ROM custom is the way to go
Yep pie OS definitely consumes more battery than oreo and I'm almost tempted to role back to oreo just to have more battery life.
I'm currently using lineageos by 33bca it's very stable, I recommend you to give it a try. The only thing I hate is that the ram management is really awful (both with stock and custom rom), most of the time the phone has to reload the applications even if I only have 2 applications opened.
Are you having some problem with sim/network? Because I saw in some post a fix to use after downgrading from pie to oreo.
I never upgraded from Oreo to Pie. Looks like i made the right choice.
gatomestre08 said:
I complete agree with you bro, Android One is almost like we are beta testers for all the time. My Mi A2 lite give me some annoying issues:
1) Bluetooth don't work proprely with my sound car system (freeze the music when I take in my hands or the road shake the device);
2) Autofocus don't work for Gcam in low light and even in the stock app camera the focus isn't correct edge to edge, making some softness in the corners;
3) Hotspot wifi router works for some minutes and for nothing the mobile data stop.
4) Ram management is a rubbish, just opening the camera any other application reload;
After all I understand Samsung and others Brands for delay updates, at least is not full of bugs like Xiaomi (same with MIUI).
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Seems like more of the same issues I have experienced, it is simply not good enough for what would be expected of day-to-day use. I think we got exactly what we paid for with this device, sadly, and from what I know the Pie update already released to for example S8 and it is working perfectly well and stable for those. But, again, much more popular and well-financed device than our cheap A2 Lite.
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if you only downgrade, without patches or fixes, android 8.1 will be a pain in the ...
the anti-roll back politic of xiaomi only makes harder to downgrade...
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For me this has been the easiest device to downgrade. Xiaomi hosts the OTA officially, OEM unlocking simply by an easy command no phone or e-mail verification just like the Pixel(Probably Android One related), and they made the script to downgrade it for you. I had much more trouble before on other devices. like Samsung using ODIN, Xiaomi with MIUI and similar, having to go through a verification by e-mail to unlock at HTC etc etc. I do not get what you are on about?
Also, why is it a pain without patches or fixes? It is much better than what you get with Pie so far, at least that is for me. There is way more lacks of patches and fixes for Pie than for Oreo ...
Remember, this was the last version released just before the May Pie update, it is very recent in itself only by some 7 months ...
anzhaki said:
Yep pie OS definitely consumes more battery than oreo and I'm almost tempted to role back to oreo just to have more battery life.
I'm currently using lineageos by 33bca it's very stable, I recommend you to give it a try. The only thing I hate is that the ram management is really awful (both with stock and custom rom), most of the time the phone has to reload the applications even if I only have 2 applications opened.
Are you having some problem with sim/network? Because I saw in some post a fix to use after downgrading from pie to oreo.
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I really wanted to try the custom ROMs, but I have banking apps that complain to me if my device is rooted or similar, and refuses to run. These are important apps for paying for goods and services that you need in order to go about your life normally. I can get around it using Magisk Hide, but I would rather not
SIM/network problems actually worked fine on Oreo and Pie (official ROM) for me all the time. I can use 4G LTE band20 perfectly and other bands to access internet, and it immediately connects to 2G/3G(3G being closed in my country soon for 4G and 5G improvement) for calls when it needs to. Coverage is also well in my country. My company use Ericsson base stations and not Huawei ones, but not like that matters.
gatomestre08 said:
And about customs ROMs? They are more stable and bugfixeds than stock or not reliable yet? Actually I prefer to install Pixel Experience (Pie) and not downgrade to Oreo.
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pixel experience, AOSiP and Lineage are the best custom Roms so far, but, my issue is from RAM management in android Pie (custom or stock).. after hours of use the phone becomes unusable... :/
courfazor said:
For me this has been the easiest device to downgrade. Xiaomi hosts the OTA officially, OEM unlocking simply by an easy command no phone or e-mail verification just like the Pixel(Probably Android One related), and they made the script to downgrade it for you. I had much more trouble before on other devices. like Samsung using ODIN, Xiaomi with MIUI and similar, having to go through a verification by e-mail to unlock at HTC etc etc. I do not get what you are on about?
Also, why is it a pain without patches or fixes? It is much better than what you get with Pie so far, at least that is for me. There is way more lacks of patches and fixes for Pie than for Oreo ...
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nope, if you only do this, you don't have RIL, can't record videos from camera and only one sim works...
i told you because i did it, you need a several fixes for sim, modify files in the official OTA to flash more files and need the modem pie img and flash it too...
i agree that the android one program wont ever give us a solid flawless build, after all it is ment for lower to mid range devices that will be quickly overlooked after release , i must admit this a2 lite is the best phone i have had so far even with the instabilities but thanks to the xda community i have been able to make the device truly mine and how i like it. i had to get this device after my nexus 5x broke during in a motorcycle accident, it was all i could afford and it performs well for my needs, i did install twrp and Butterfly for Daisy to fix the GCam mis focus issues, eventually i gave in and installed magisk to manage tge kernel with arduitor and increase battery life. i never had the luxury to run Oreo on this devixe because as soon as i got it i unlocked the bootloader and when it restarted it booted into the updated pie partition and i decided to run with it. i dont think xiaomi or Google will actually fix any bugs but we are on XDA and DIY is always an option.
NeoZX58 said:
pixel experience, AOSiP and Lineage are the best custom Roms so far, but, my issue is from RAM management in android Pie (custom or stock).. after hours of use the phone becomes unusable... :/
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Not good. I think this was the same massive lagging issue I experienced, I just did not know it was due to bad RAM management. Is this a fix that needs to be done to the ROM directly or only the kernel? I am not familiar with custom ROM/kernel development that much, but I have experienced some kernels on devices working much better than others like ElementalX.
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nope, if you only do this, you don't have RIL, can't record videos from camera and only one sim works...
i told you because i did it, you need a several fixes for sim, modify files in the official OTA to flash more files and need the modem pie img and flash it too...
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I am able to record videos from my camera perfectly, it works very stable. I used this version of Oreo just some months ago and it worked great. I have the version with 4GB RAM and 64GB eMMC. I think the reason I experience no issues is because I only use one primary SIM for 4G and calling in SIM slot 1, and do not have a use for the 2nd SIM slot so for me, it is perfect, but too bad for the people that actually needs this feature like you About updates to RIL I assume the firmware used for modem/calling, which for me works so any updates are not that needed for me to have it working perfectly.
Azatecas said:
i agree that the android one program wont ever give us a solid flawless build, after all it is ment for lower to mid range devices that will be quickly overlooked after release , i must admit this a2 lite is the best phone i have had so far even with the instabilities but thanks to the xda community i have been able to make the device truly mine and how i like it. i had to get this device after my nexus 5x broke during in a motorcycle accident, it was all i could afford and it performs well for my needs, i did install twrp and Butterfly for Daisy to fix the GCam mis focus issues, eventually i gave in and installed magisk to manage tge kernel with arduitor and increase battery life. i never had the luxury to run Oreo on this devixe because as soon as i got it i unlocked the bootloader and when it restarted it booted into the updated pie partition and i decided to run with it. i dont think xiaomi or Google will actually fix any bugs but we are on XDA and DIY is always an option.
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But it was actually working well enough for me too on some of the builds, but I do agree that it is probably not a phone that was meant to be supported for long. Another person I know has the A2 model, and he says it has been working perfectly well for him for all this time even on latest Android Pie. I do not know if there are much differences between them, but I do know the A2 is a much more popular device. Personally I prefer the A2 Lite just for the audio jack, and I still like the legacy MicroUSB. People would call me mad for this, but haha, that is just who I am.
I am afraid this device is not nearly as popular to get enough DIY effort into making a custom ROM/kernel, I am certainly not anyone who knows enough to get into development of it. I hope it will go well and that somebody will take the challenge, or maybe it has already happened?
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I am afraid this device is not nearly as popular to get enough DIY effort into making a custom ROM/kernel, I am certainly not anyone who knows enough to get into development of it. I hope it will go well and that somebody will take the challenge, or maybe it has already happened?
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i actually think the mi a2 lite is more popular than the regular A2, it has more features and a better battery for a cheaper price so it is more accessible to more people and therefore more reach developers. Butterfly for Daisy is a great Custom Kernel that fixes some issues including the GCam focus issue among other things on Pie, i highly suggest you read that thread to see if it offer solutions to some of your issues with the device. im still running stock Rom with the custom kernel and everything works great. others have reported Resurrection Remix/Puxel Experience/ and Lineage Os bring additional stability and fixes in coordination with the kernel. i havent found the need to try a custom rom yet but development is very active on the device. however it is a low end phone and QA is not as good so some devices might be lemons straght out of the factory and not perform as good.
I have almost no issues with my Mi A2 Lite. No slowness except what I expect from a $159 phone, GPS works, bluetooth works albeit I hate that they removed AAC, WiFi is perfectly fine and maxes out my connection with bluetooth on. Only thing I don't like is how crap calling is, but I figured that would be the case when I bought it at again, $159 and knew some American bands were missing. Battery life is 8-11 hours of SOT with regular usage. I use the IR blaster to control my stereo receiver, FM radio is nice. Glass has some light scratches, but again I expect that for $159.
I have a brand new never opened Oreo Mi A2 Lite in my desk drawer still in the box that I haven't felt the need to pull out yet. I think as someone else has pointed out, there may be two hardware revisions because mine is fairly flawless.
I downgrade my Mi A2 Lite to Oreo V9.6.6.0.ODLMIFF (August 2018) and was surprised how good and perfect is this version, looks like I have an new Smartphone. Now Bluetooth works perfect, Gcam Autofocus is accurate, fine RAM mannagement, battery life is great, only miss FM Radio.
Mi A2 Lite was arruined by Android Pie.
Shame on you Xiaomi, I'm very disappointed with the crap updates that we received from you, seems like your only purpose is for the users buy an new one device.
anzhaki said:
Yep pie OS definitely consumes more battery than oreo and I'm almost tempted to role back to oreo just to have more battery life.
I'm currently using lineageos by 33bca it's very stable, I recommend you to give it a try. The only thing I hate is that the ram management is really awful (both with stock and custom rom), most of the time the phone has to reload the applications even if I only have 2 applications opened.
Are you having some problem with sim/network? Because I saw in some post a fix to use after downgrading from pie to oreo.
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For the ram management... open your kernel 'tweaker' app and disable 'Adaptive Low Memory Killer', it seems to like killing apps on background, even with enough ram to spare... It'll make no magic, but definately helps :highfive:
Sorry, needing Help.
Could you please post a tutorial for this, or a good noob Xiaomi step by step? I have unlocked my phone a few months ago. I don't remember how I did it. I have since moved to another phone. I have installed twrp and had it rooted with majisk. a factory reset took care of majisk. I would love to go back completely to stock oreo.
I only need one slot on the sim so this should be ok.
Your directions for install sound good but seems like something might be missing. I'm new to the xiaomi devices. They seem way more comlicated than all the Samsungs I've had.
PLEASE, and thank you:good::good:
Rev10eight said:
Could you please post a tutorial for this, or a good noob Xiaomi step by step? I have unlocked my phone a few months ago. I don't remember how I did it. I have since moved to another phone. I have installed twrp and had it rooted with majisk. a factory reset took care of majisk. I would love to go back completely to stock oreo.
I only need one slot on the sim so this should be ok.
Your directions for install sound good but seems like something might be missing. I'm new to the xiaomi devices. They seem way more comlicated than all the Samsungs I've had.
PLEASE, and thank you:good::good:
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All your data on phone will be lost , take back-up on PC if necessairy.
For full stock rom , download Miuflashtool zip. extract and install on your PC, download stock rom for your phone on your PC and extract it , boot into fastboot and connect your device to PC ,in flashtool click on refresh, your device should appear ( numbercombination 225cc80.... or something like that) click browse in the left corner and select the extracted stock rom file, hit flash and wait till you see succes in green on the right . Your device will take about 10 min to boot . You're now on stock rom, locked bootloader, no root and stock recovery . I flashed my device MiA2 lite) yesterday with latest Pie stock rom after I had bootloop
bricked it. I don't now about oreo stock rom , there could be issues with network connection, video playback and swapped simcard because of anti rollback protection.
Thank you so much.
That was super simple and super quick. I am back to stock Pie, unrooted and and the boot loader is locked again. I used OREO and the phone works fine. Make sure you disable update or it will update to pie. I need to redo it to go back to oreo.
I want to downgrade. What about second sim slot OREO error ??? What version is the best? And what version havent bluetooth/wifi/gps issue? I dont remember what version I was at last on oreo.

Genuine Question: What is the benefit of rooting at this point?

First off, a disclaimer: I come from a long line of rooting android phones, from the Nexus of yore to Samsungs and the Axon 7, to now potentially rooting the OP7 Pro. I know what rooting does, I know I can change the ROM, and that will allow me to change the look etc etc. But is there really benefit outside of that anymore?
And what things will I lose by rooting? Will google pay still work? Etc.
I've been getting bored with the stock ROM, not because there's anything wrong with it, I actually have only a 55% urge to root and load up a custom ROM. It's mostly out of boredom to be honest. But I find that as phones progress, my need to root and flash a new ROM shrinks. Especially since this is relatively close to Stock Android in the first place.
EasyTiger6x13 said:
First off, a disclaimer: I come from a long line of rooting android phones, from the Nexus of yore to Samsungs and the Axon 7, to now potentially rooting the OP7 Pro. I know what rooting does, I know I can change the ROM, and that will allow me to change the look etc etc. But is there really benefit outside of that anymore?
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Logon just to agree with what OP said. I, too came from a very long line of android phones (#AndroidMasterRace). As I changed from phone to phone, I eventually find it less and less appealing to root and currently rooting my phone just out of habit than actual needs.
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And what things will I lose by rooting? Will google pay still work? Etc.
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As long as Magisk passed with Safety Net, Google Pay will still work. Other than Warranty, you lose nothing. Rooting just let you gain more control over your phone.
oceanax said:
Logon just to agree with what OP said. I, too came from a very long line of android phones (#AndroidMasterRace). As I changed from phone to phone, I eventually find it less and less appealing to root and currently rooting my phone just out of habit than actual needs.
As long as Magisk passed with Safety Net, Google Pay will still work. Other than Warranty, you lose nothing. Rooting just let you gain more control over your phone.
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You don't even lose warranty.
There is nothing permanent done when unlocking the BootLoader or rooting.
You gain full control.
Do you mean root or custom ROM? You don't need root for a custom ROM...
As for rooting...
Systemwide adblock
Substratum themes
Pixel launcher & recents
Live caption + dark theme assistant
etc
I always root for numerous apps, mods, controls, etc...
Viper4android
galaxys said:
I always root for numerous apps, mods, controls, etc...
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Could you list the ones you use or would root to use, I'm also tempted to root but don't really see a big benefit, maybe you can change my mind
Adaway is my big plus to rooting. Doesn't matter what app or game I use, no ads.
Titanium Backup is my other #1 app to have. If I have problems with a specific OS (in my case, I had to downgrade from Android 10 back to 9), Titanium Backup put all my (game) data back without issues.
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Adaway is my big plus to rooting. Doesn't matter what app or game I use, no ads.
Titanium Backup is my other #1 app to have. If I have problems with a specific OS (in my case, I had to downgrade from Android 10 back to 9), Titanium Backup put all my (game) data back without issues.
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seconded. adaway is the main reason for me too. and Viper4Android
Im looking for a ROM that enables free tethering built in. Does anyone know of any? That's the main benefit of rooting for me.
I've been rooting and ROMing since the HTC Hero. I used to chase nightlies, kernels, new homescreen every day.... all looking to make slow phones faster and more useable.
Phone hardware is actually pretty stellar now, especially this one.
So all I do is root the stock rom, install ad block and Viper4android.
Being able to update firmware from the manufacturer OTA and maintain root with just a few clicks is the best thing since sliced bread for me.
Android manufacturers have finally started adding things to their stock launchers and builds that now make some mods and rooting and obsolete.
But Instill use it to customize my Waze map colors and Adaway. Otherwise, no reason and been thinking of jumping to the new Galaxy S11 plus when it comes out. Will see.
I root for Viper, to try custom kernels and to mod various visual aspects of OOS. You do lose HD quality Netflix and Prime video but I rarely watch them so its worth it for me.
Sab3elbromba said:
Could you list the ones you use or would root to use, I'm also tempted to root but don't really see a big benefit, maybe you can change my mind
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For me, I root for substratum, xposed edge, exi for SwiftKey, adaway, custom kernels, (magisk) roms, viper4android, probably a few more but that's just off the top of my head. Also, not the person you replied to.
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You should root you don't loose anything
And i overclocked the phone like crazy fast,
There are many benefits for rooting
I'm not rooting this time cause I dont want to lose the stable system that I have. I like its last of battery and I am okay with the speed of the phone. I think I will pass rooting this time
Adaway, viper4android, google dailer with call screen, downclocking the cpu, getting rid of all unnecessary apps and background processes. Aux camera's in gcams. And i have gpay and banking apps still working....

Question Plan to get a new Pixel 7 Pro

Hi all
I plan to get a Pixel 7 Pro pretty soon.
Decided to go for it as the added telephoto lens could be useful even if I don't take photos much. How has the camera been in your expereince?
I also plan to use custom ROM on it. Have any suggestions for those? I may want to use Google Pay with it. Graphine does seem nice for the privacy angle though
P7P has one of the best cameras on the market no doubt.
Stock firmware is missing nothing, for anything else there is aosp mods.
I dont know of any custom rom that will not let you use gpay.
I dont like the battery drain of the p7p but i dont know any phone where i like it tbh.
xtcislove said:
P7P has one of the best cameras on the market no doubt.
Stock firmware is missing nothing, for anything else there is aosp mods.
I dont know of any custom rom that will not let you use gpay.
I dont like the battery drain of the p7p but i dont know any phone where i like it tbh.
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I was exploring Graphine but I keep hearing it won't let you do Google Pay.
I don't mind running stock but custom rom. What would you suggest besides Graphine?
Don't care for root stuff atm
Just want to use the phone
luckychukiye said:
I was exploring Graphine but I keep hearing it won't let you do Google Pay.
I don't mind running stock but custom rom. What would you suggest besides Graphine?
Don't care for root stuff atm
Just want to use the phone
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Run Stock ist stable and has everything i Need
Maybe try Evolution x but i never felt the Need to use custom Roms on this Phone
That works.
It's a clean interface otuta the box
It's a brand new phone so nothing to worry about
xtcislove said:
Run Stock ist stable and has everything i Need
Maybe try Evolution x but i never felt the Need to use custom Roms on this Phone
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Yeah I always wondered why one would use a custom ROM on the best android phone in the world when it comes to software pixel exclusives.
I've stated this many times but using other devices I needed root and custom ROMs to keep the device going past the original manufacturer life cycle, in these days a new phone comes out every 9 months.
Pixel/Nexus/Samsung/Google keeps the devices software updated at least 3 years.
Security is priority for me should be for everyone..
Lastly, I want to root just to install a custom kernel but always running stock android on Pixels.
I haven't seen or heard any one say a custom ROM ran better in three years than stock pixel.
After Google drops support then custom ROMs are needed imo...
jhjhjhjhjhjh said:
Yeah I always wondered why one would use a custom ROM on the best android phone in the world when it comes to software pixel exclusives.
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Keep those and add a bit. I really would hate to lack network monitor, skip track for music, and battery being a circle. Why does google not do this? The code is out and open, they just would have to merge.
wangdaning said:
Keep those and add a bit. I really would hate to lack network monitor, skip track for music, and battery being a circle. Why does google not do this? The code is out and open, they just would have to merge.
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So keeping the phone as is should be fine?
luckychukiye said:
So keeping the phone as is should be fine?
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Stock is fine, those features I referred to are not in stock though. You can root and use AOSPmods or something to get features, but I feel a custom rom with the features you want integrated is always the better choice. There is a thread about custom roms you could take a look at.
Mint has a deal for the 7pro. $689, 12 month service with 6 months free. I saw somewhere when researching about a Japan version being received by some ppl. I am on T-Mobile and tested mint on my tablet. No difference or issues I could see. Just a bit concerned with the model they have. Looking around I didn't see anyone else this low. I can do the mint deal @ $58 a month, get a Pixel phone and come out cheaper cause T-Mobile is $70 a month. really a no brainier, and I have wanted a Pixel phone for last 2 phones but couldn't handle the price. So anyone have an issue w getting a foreign model and mint mobile?
wangdaning said:
Stock is fine, those features I referred to are not in stock though. You can root and use AOSPmods or something to get features, but I feel a custom rom with the features you want integrated is always the better choice. There is a thread about custom roms you could take a look at.
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Thanks!
wangdaning said:
Stock is fine, those features I referred to are not in stock though. You can root and use AOSPmods or something to get features, but I feel a custom rom with the features you want integrated is always the better choice. There is a thread about custom roms you could take a look at.
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which thread is that? link?
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which thread is that? link?
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Custom ROMs
Hey all the custom ROMers here. I hope you all are doing great. What ROM you are currently running on your P7/P7P and why? I'm pretty new to android root scene and looking forward to install custom ROM on my P7. Any answers would be appreciated!!
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