Switching from a pixel 2 xl - Google Pixel 3a Questions & Answers

Hey guys I m switching from a pixel 2 xl and looking for something cheaper. Would you guys recommend a pixel 3 a or pixel 3a xl?
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Depends on what you want. The phones are more or less identical, the only major differences are the size and battery - the 3a XL is bigger in both.
If you're currently having the Pixel 2 XL and are OK with the size, then go for the 3a XL. If you would like to switch to a smaller phone, then go for the ordinary 3a.

I'd wait till the Pixel 4 is released in mid-Oct. You might find that Google offers some decent trade in values for your Pixel 2 XL. Or discount the 3 series even further than it is now ($300 off).
As noted, the screen and battery are about the only things better on the 3a XL. You've lived with the 2 XL screen this long, so it must not bother you too much. A few more weeks won't make a difference.

If you want a cheaper phone, you could definitely switch over to a 3a or 3a xl. I went with the 3a because i got tired of having a big phone( 2xl) and I got also annoyed of having to carry a headphone jack adapter. I only miss the faster snapdragon processor. The battery life on the 2xl was terrible too. I do miss the actual front speakers on the 2xl. Can't go wrong with the 3a though. It gets me through the day.

Either would work
hern1989 said:
If you want a cheaper phone, you could definitely switch over to a 3a or 3a xl. I went with the 3a because i got tired of having a big phone( 2xl) and I got also annoyed of having to carry a headphone jack adapter. I only miss the faster snapdragon processor. The battery life on the 2xl was terrible too. I do miss the actual front speakers on the 2xl. Can't go wrong with the 3a though. It gets me through the day.
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Either works; the 3a is smaller than the S7 or newer (I came from the S7). Also, it has a longer SOT than the S7 and charges faster than the S7 as well. Here's a shocker - the S7 charges faster using the 3a's charger than using its own charger; however, the 3a charges faster yet. (That means it is NOT a fault in the S7's charger.)

sic0048 said:
I'd wait till the Pixel 4 is released in mid-Oct. You might find that Google offers some decent trade in values for your Pixel 2 XL. Or discount the 3 series even further than it is now ($300 off).
As noted, the screen and battery are about the only things better on the 3a XL. You've lived with the 2 XL screen this long, so it must not bother you too much. A few more weeks won't make a difference.
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I am on a bit of a budget to be honest. I can't buy a phone out right and knowing Google it's going to be very expensive.
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Either works; the 3a is smaller than the S7 or newer (I came from the S7). Also, it has a longer SOT than the S7 and charges faster than the S7 as well. Here's a shocker - the S7 charges faster using the 3a's charger than using its own charger; however, the 3a charges faster yet. (That means it is NOT a fault in the S7's charger.)
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And for me personally I want to try the 3A XL because it's a better option for me and I have to spend less money. They only gripe I have with the phone is that does not have the image processing chip my 2XL has.
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PGHammer said:
Either works; the 3a is smaller than the S7 or newer (I came from the S7). Also, it has a longer SOT than the S7 and charges faster than the S7 as well. Here's a shocker - the S7 charges faster using the 3a's charger than using its own charger; however, the 3a charges faster yet. (That means it is NOT a fault in the S7's charger.)
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I have a pixel 2 XL which is on its deathbed as well. So you think I should just go for the regular 3A?
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Why would you switch from a pixel 2xl to a 3a or 3axl?? I don't think so it is a very smart idea

100rabh7791 said:
Why would you switch from a pixel 2xl to a 3a or 3axl?? I don't think so it is a very smart idea
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Better battery life, headphone jack, and cheaper. Did i mention headphone jack?? I went from a pixel 2xl to a pixel 3a and havent missed the 2 xl.

hern1989 said:
Better battery life, headphone jack, and cheaper. Did i mention headphone jack?? I went from a pixel 2xl to a pixel 3a and havent missed the 2 xl.
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I never missed headphone jack, guess i adopted to this trend way too early. Pixel 2xl battery life is quite good for me and does the job. Cheaper, yeah but then if you already have 2xl why would you spend extra money?

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Pixel 2 or 2 xl?

Just wondering of any of you think there is a huge difference between the 2 and 2 xl besides the obvious being size. I'm really torn between the two and especially since the 2 is around 130 cheaper. Can any of you give me a little insight on what you think the best route I should take. I'm currently using a moto x pure which has a 5.7 inch screen.
Unlike the S9 vs. S9+ The Pixel 2 and 2XL are identical internally (CPU, memory, Camera, features, functionality) and the only difference IS the screen and the bezels; the 2XL looking more modern with much smaller bezels. I would suggest going to your local store and getting a feel for both and pick the one you like the most.. Me personally, I found the 2XL a little too big and preferred the size of the 2.
RE: Online complaints of the 2XL having blue shift screen issues when viewing at an angle.. Please disregard those complaints. This has been confirmed to improved and on par with other devices for some time now.
Bigger battery on xl model is important too
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Proday said:
Bigger battery on xl model is important too
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Funny thing is that I've personally had just as good battery life on my pixel 2 as my panda
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I was in the same boat but went for the Pixel 2, the bigger screen wasnt a big deal for me. Battery life on the pixel for me is great seeing its only a 2700 gets me more than a day with medium use.
there the cost factor too...so all depends on what your requirements are
I would go get a feel as pointed out above and make a choice...
corybucher said:
Just wondering of any of you think there is a huge difference between the 2 and 2 xl besides the obvious being size. I'm really torn between the two and especially since the 2 is around 130 cheaper. Can any of you give me a little insight on what you think the best route I should take. I'm currently using a moto x pure which has a 5.7 inch screen.
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If your planning to install Custom roms, the XL has more support currently.
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If your planning to install Custom roms, the XL has more support currently.
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Thanks I went with the 2xl and I'm so glad because the screen is amazing and that camera
corybucher said:
Thanks I went with the 2xl and I'm so glad because the screen is amazing and that camera
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Well the camera really is the same on both!
Large Hadron said:
Well the camera really is the same on both!
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No I know, just saying
I'd like that 3520mAh battery, but I prefer the smaller phone, and going from 75% to 30% battery, I get more than the 11 hours a day I need with the 2700mAh battery. Maybe if I had the push to run a more useful ROM and ran the clock down lower (the phone's fast enough for me on battery saver from turn-on to turn-off [come on, Google - make that stick through restarts]) I'd get even more life. (I plan on running this until Android S, at least, so I'd like 4 years of battery life.) But I don't need the extra half inch poking me in the side (I always use an Otterbox Defender).
Luv my XL 2 for the size, custom roms, kernels, etc

$250 to trade Galaxy S8 for Pixel 2XL 128Gb: Is it worth it?

It will cost me about $250 to sell my GS8 on Ebay and buy a second hand Pixel 2Xl (unlocked 128gb).
Do you think $250 is worth it?
Is the Pixel 2 camera a noticeable improvement over the GS8?
Of course I like fast updates, but I also like expandable storage and a few of the Samsung features. But I've already decided that I can live without the added features to get regular updates, and 128gb is enough to overcome lack or expandable storage.
It comes down to the camera and overall experience. Is it worth $250?
Yes.
Definitely worth it if it's in good condition and you can get the original receipt with order ID and email to transfer ownership and warranty. The Pixel 2 XL has the much better camera and smoother overall experience.
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How much better is the camera?
just.garet said:
How much better is the camera?
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It's a clear upgrade from the S8.
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Personally I'd wait at this point for the Pixel 3 since your phone is still working well for you.
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It will cost me about $250 to sell my GS8 on Ebay and buy a second hand Pixel 2Xl (unlocked 128gb).
Do you think $250 is worth it?
Is the Pixel 2 camera a noticeable improvement over the GS8?
Of course I like fast updates, but I also like expandable storage and a few of the Samsung features. But I've already decided that I can live without the added features to get regular updates, and 128gb is enough to overcome lack or expandable storage.
It comes down to the camera and overall experience. Is it worth $250?
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Definitely especially for 128GB version. It is a great phone. Fast and never lags. Camera is best in class. A real bargain
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Personally I'd wait at this point for the Pixel 3 since your phone is still working well for you.
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Yeah the pixel 3 xl will probably be great, but it will likely be $900 for a 128 gb model and I can get the 2xl 128 for $550-$600 and sell my Gs8 for $350.
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Yeah the pixel 3 xl will probably be great, but it will likely be $900 for a 128 gb model and I can get the 2xl 128 for $550-$600 and sell my Gs8 for $350.
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Oh the Pixel 2 and XL variant are both fantastic. If you're not one to be crazy about trying to get the latest and greatest all the time then I think that's a pretty great deal as well. Not to mention the longer warranty and great support from Google is far beyond that of Samsung (or so I've heard).
Agree, the Pixel 2 & 2XL are great device's at nice Price's!

Pixel 3 or Pixel 3a.... I need your help.

Not sure if this is the correct place to post, apologies in advance.
I was initially interested in getting the Pixel 3a. However, I see that now the Pixel 3 has a 250$ off, bringing the cost of the device down to.
In Canada, the Pixel 3 is now: $750 (this includes the $250 discount), and the Pixel 3a is $550.
I don't play games on my phone. I just can't get myself to do so when I have a Switch and PC at home.
Storage space of 64GB is actually plenty for me. I don't even close to 32GB on my current phone, due to having a NAS at home which pictures are transferred there, and the use of cloud storage. A good rear camera is the most important feature on a phone, hence why I am looking at the Pixel 3 series phone. Beside that I think I am a light user.
I really don't care about the front camera, however wireless charging seems nice to have (although I was looking into getting this, if I where to get the Pixel 3a: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Qi-...Mode-Wireless-QC3-0/33025054236.html?spm=2114 Of course, I prefer it to be integrated into the device, but is a workaround I am willing to do for the lower price (that said that will cost me ~$23.50 Canadian with shipping, bringing the cost of both device closer)
However, I heard that the Pixel 3 has performance issues that the 3a doesn't have, not sure if this was solved or not, or affected some special case? Are these performance issues (assuming not fixed) are they resolved by doing a phone reboot?
Is the gain in performance, build quality, waterproof (not sure I actually care) worth the premium?
Thanks
I was leaning towards the Pixel 3a myself before it had been officially announced, but when I saw the Pixel 3 was on sale at 50% off through Google Fi back in April I decided to pull the trigger on the Pixel 3. The Pixel 3 was just not worth it to me without a significant discount. My biggest complaint with my Pixel 3 is battery life. Also wish it had a headphone jack. I haven't noticed any performance issues while I've had it. I am happy with the phone and am glad I have 128GB of storage instead of 64GB. 64GB was not going to be enough for me.
I think in your case the Pixel 3a would be a better option. You don't need more than the 64GB of storage and the other features aren't really needed or really desired. Wireless charging isn't that big of a deal for me and you have like two options for wireless chargers that support 10w charging for the Pixel 3 due to Google using some proprietary way of wirelessly charging the Pixel 3. The processor in the Pixel 3a should be more than adequate (I think any Snapdragon 600 series of processor should provide decent performance).
I have both phones at home. Never once experienced any performance issues with the Pixel 3, and it's an absolutely great phone. All I can say about which one to choose is:
Do you need any of this:
- Wireless Charging
- Wideangle selfie camera
- Glass housing
- Slight performance increase
If you say yes to any of the points above, get the Pixel 3. Otherwise, get the 3a. The 3a has the same awesome stock Android experience, the same amazing back camera, a sort-of premium feel (they have done a great job with the plastic housing), great battery life, and according to Google, half a year longer support.

Considering ditching the S10e for a Pixel 3a again

I seriously considering ditching my Samung S10e & picking up a cheap Pixel 3a again.
The only reason i got the S10e is because i lost my Pixel 3a while on holiday & at the time in August last year, the S10e was on a very good offer under £500 & the Wife's work discount brought it close to £400 hence why i ended up getting the S10e over another Pixel 3a which after a good few months with the S10e I've now come to regret that decision.
Reason being.
Signal on the S10e is terrible where i live dropped calls continuously, never had a problem on my Pixel 3a.
Battery life is also terrible being exynos it suffers badly from 4G drain, again no problems on the Pixel 3a could easily get a day out of it even though battery on both are around the same capacity.
Support tbh Samsung has upped their game when it comes to supporting their devices, but Android 11 will be it's last major update & will only show up sometime in early 2021, the Pixel 3a on the other hand will get Android 11 around September time & also will get Android 12.
Camera while it's ok in good light on the S10e the pixel 3a blew it out of the water when it comes to image quality more so in low light shot's, i even go far as to say that the pixel 3a camera still better than the S20 lineup, i can cope losing the wide angle camera for better image quality again, & i don't care for 4K 60fps as it wasn't stabilised on the S10 range & the video quality on the pixel 3a was more than upto the job.
Also i don't care that the Pixel 3a only has 4GB of Ram, Snapdragon 670 & only 64GB of storage as I don't game on my phones & i don't do any multi tasking & i don't use that many apps.
The other option is to hang on for the Pixel 4a later this month or early next month which looks very much like the S10e, but that will cost £400 starting price and i can get a brand new retail Pixel 3a close to £250, that should easily last me until the Pixel 5a next year.
ixon2001 said:
I seriously considering ditching my Samung S10e & picking up a cheap Pixel 3a again.
The only reason i got the S10e is because i lost my Pixel 3a while on holiday & at the time in August last year, the S10e was on a very good offer under £500 & the Wife's work discount brought it close to £400 hence why i ended up getting the S10e over another Pixel 3a which after a good few months with the S10e I've now come to regret that decision.
Reason being.
Signal on the S10e is terrible where i live dropped calls continuously, never had a problem on my Pixel 3a.
Battery life is also terrible being exynos it suffers badly from 4G drain, again no problems on the Pixel 3a could easily get a day out of it even though battery on both are around the same capacity.
Support tbh Samsung has upped their game when it comes to supporting their devices, but Android 11 will be it's last major update & will only show up sometime in early 2021, the Pixel 3a on the other hand will get Android 11 around September time & also will get Android 12.
Camera while it's ok in good light on the S10e the pixel 3a blew it out of the water when it comes to image quality more so in low light shot's, i even go far as to say that the pixel 3a camera still better than the S20 lineup, i can cope losing the wide angle camera for better image quality again, & i don't care for 4K 60fps as it wasn't stabilised on the S10 range & the video quality on the pixel 3a was more than upto the job.
Also i don't care that the Pixel 3a only has 4GB of Ram, Snapdragon 670 & only 64GB of storage as I don't game on my phones & i don't do any multi tasking & i don't use that many apps.
The other option is to hang on for the Pixel 4a later this month or early next month which looks very much like the S10e, but that will cost £400 starting price and i can get a brand new retail Pixel 3a close to £250, that should easily last me until the Pixel 5a next year.
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Yes waiting for 4a is a good option and if you can wait even more the pixel 5 is gonna be a midranger this year but i guess no-one can wait for that long to buy a phone .So if you can, pixel 4a will be the best option as it will have larger battery more efficient processor etc.
Decided go for another Pixel 3a rather than the 4a & save myself around £150.
Also if the Pixel 5 is a mid range phone with a starting price of around 500 & 5G as standard, then getting that later on in the year or early next year when the deals are on will be a better option than going for the Pixel 4a next month.
I'll trade you my week old 3a for an S10e lol

First Post

Well seems I'll be posting the first post here. Planning to get the P4A at release to upgrade my pixel 2xl.
Debating whether to get the 4 or the 4a, but the better battery life, dual SIM support are better for me than the soli radar crap.
Following, in the same boat, Pixel 2xl camera crashed and unusable for a month now. Phone becoming so slow.
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Following, in the same boat, Pixel 2xl camera crashed and unusable for a month now. Phone becoming so slow.
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sucks to hear about your camera crashing man. Roll back to Android 9 and it should work, at least that's what I read about that issue. Seems that some hardware drivers got messed up while upgrading from 9 to 10, which is whats causing the crash for the camera in ur case and various other hardware issues with other users. I don't know if it would fix it, worth the shot. Make sure u flash the full factory image, and to make it brand new don't take out the -w and wipe ur device completely clean.
If it does work try to upgrade to 10 by flashing the full factory image.
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sucks to hear about your camera crashing man. Roll back to Android 9 and it should work, at least that's what I read about that issue. Seems that some hardware drivers got messed up while upgrading from 9 to 10, which is whats causing the crash for the camera in ur case and various other hardware issues with other users. I don't know if it would fix it, worth the shot. Make sure u flash the full factory image, and to make it brand new don't take out the -w and wipe ur device completely clean.
If it does work try to upgrade to 10 by flashing the full factory image.
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I would try that but then I would be locked out of my work computer. Have to have camera to scan code. But definitely will try that after I decide on which phone to upgrade to. Twice after this post my phone quit responding to touches and had to reboot it to work.
Will008 said:
Well seems I'll be posting the first post here. Planning to get the P4A at release to upgrade my pixel 2xl.
Debating whether to get the 4 or the 4a, but the better battery life, dual SIM support are better for me than the soli radar crap.
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In the same boat here. I have the 2XL and though I'd love to keep this phone forever, it's starting to experience its fair share of issues. I'm waiting for the 4A. A few of my friends have the 4 and from their experience, Soli hasn't been worth it. Lots of complaints about missing the fingerprint scanner. Besides, not many Android apps support Face ID.
Unlikely the 4A will have an IP68 (or any) rating but that seems like the only downfall of the device. I'm excited to keep my fingerprint reader, dual SIM, and regain a headphone jack.
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In the same boat here. I have the 2XL and though I'd love to keep this phone forever, it's starting to experience its fair share of issues. I'm waiting for the 4A. A few of my friends have the 4 and from their experience, Soli hasn't been worth it. Lots of complaints about missing the fingerprint scanner. Besides, not many Android apps support Face ID.
Unlikely the 4A will have an IP68 (or any) rating but that seems like the only downfall of the device. I'm excited to keep my fingerprint reader, dual SIM, and regain a headphone jack.
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There is not much price difference with the current discounts that's why I'm torn.
Pixel 4xl
Pros: better soc, better screen, marginally better camera, IP68
Cons: battery life
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Pros: battery life, dual SIM
Cons: mid-range SOC, marginally worse camera, smaller screen, no IP rating.
As far as the SOC goes, the 730 soc processor should be the same performance as the pixel 3XL in apps which is fine, but will be like the 2xl in games due to the much worse GPU. Should be a whole lot more efficient on battery though. I don't play much games but I hate stutters and lags. Carrying more than 1 phone is also a pain in my a**. I really hope it performs well with no stutters.
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There is not much price difference with the current discounts that's why I'm torn.
Pixel 4xl
Pros: better soc, better screen, marginally better camera, IP68
Cons: battery life
Pixel 4a
Pros: battery life, dual SIM
Cons: mid-range SOC, marginally worse camera, smaller screen, no IP rating.
As far as the SOC goes, the 730 soc processor should be the same performance as the pixel 3XL in apps which is fine, but will be like the 2xl in games due to the much worse GPU. Should be a whole lot more efficient on battery though. I don't play much games but I hate stutters and lags. Carrying more than 1 phone is also a pain in my a**. I really hope it performs well with no stutters.
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I recently upgraded to the 3a xl from the 2 xl. I love it. My wife had the original pixel xl so it was time to upggrade again. I was going to wait for the 4axl since i love the 3a so much. But as was said with the price drop I decided to get the 4xl. The main reason being I had my 3a for 3 days and accidently dropped it in water now I had flagship phones for a long time so i wasnt worried till i realized this phone is not ip rated. so i had to warrenty exchange it after only 3 days. So now my wife has 3a and I have 4. I have to say despite all the reviews the battery life on the 4xl is great. It is certianly on par with all the other pixel xl models I have had. And the only one i did not have was the 3xl. Now the 3axl is a different story that phone has legendary battery life because of its upper mid range processer. But My advice is if you need ip rated phone go for the 4xl. The smaller 4 is where the batttery really becomes an issue from what I have read and I read alot as you can see I am a big google fan had every phone starting with the n6p. oh and back in the day I had a galaxy nexus because I was a samsung fan before that.
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I recently upgraded to the 3a xl from the 2 xl. I love it. My wife had the original pixel xl so it was time to upggrade again. I was going to wait for the 4axl since i love the 3a so much. But as was said with the price drop I decided to get the 4xl. The main reason being I had my 3a for 3 days and accidently dropped it in water now I had flagship phones for a long time so i wasnt worried till i realized this phone is not ip rated. so i had to warrenty exchange it after only 3 days. So now my wife has 3a and I have 4. I have to say despite all the reviews the battery life on the 4xl is great. It is certianly on par with all the other pixel xl models I have had. And the only one i did not have was the 3xl. Now the 3axl is a different story that phone has legendary battery life because of its upper mid range processer. But My advice is if you need ip rated phone go for the 4xl. The smaller 4 is where the batttery really becomes an issue from what I have read and I read alot as you can see I am a big google fan had every phone starting with the n6p. oh and back in the day I had a galaxy nexus because I was a samsung fan before that.
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That's is my issue, I want the IP rating but I also want the power efficient processor and the dual SIM. I guess I'll decide when it's fully revealed. Glad to see a Google fan, I still own and use every Nexus device from the Galaxy Nexus onward. The Nexus 6p is my all time favorite phone. I would still use it as a main phone if it's processor can be upgraded and get the battery replaced. Cheers buddy.
I've had all the Pixels, liked them all. I traded my P4XL in on an S20+. As before, I'm done with the Galaxy & ready to go back to my Pixel. The 4a looks good to me. A couple compromises but every phone has that. The price though. I've spent 2 and 3 times that for phones. This has to be the most popular Pixel ever. The only downside is the economic disaster at hand. Priorities have changed for a lot of people.
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That's is my issue, I want the IP rating but I also want the power efficient processor and the dual SIM. I guess I'll decide when it's fully revealed. Glad to see a Google fan, I still own and use every Nexus device from the Galaxy Nexus onward. The Nexus 6p is my all time favorite phone. I would still use it as a main phone if it's processor can be upgraded and get the battery replaced. Cheers buddy.
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The battery life on my 4xl is still really good and you can turn off the motion sence and the 90hz screen if it really is an issue. And I only charge my phone to 80 only 100 if I am going to be away from a chargers for more than a day and how often does that happen. Also o don't know what carrier you have but I'm on fi and I use esim. I could be wrong but I think o could pop a physical sim in and have dual SIM 1 physical and one esim. And my Nexus 6p was my favorite phone for a long time I did not have any issues with it until the end right before I got my pixel XL. The battery started getting crappy. My poor wife always gets my hand me down phones and she was stuck with it for a while till I got my.pixel 2xl. I even put a new battery in it and it worked ok for.a while and died within 7 months. That phone hadaa great start in life and a hard fall from Grace.
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I've had all the Pixels, liked them all. I traded my P4XL in on an S20+. As before, I'm done with the Galaxy & ready to go back to my Pixel. The 4a looks good to me. A couple compromises but every phone has that. The price though. I've spent 2 and 3 times that for phones. This has to be the most popular Pixel ever. The only downside is the economic disaster at hand. Priorities have changed for a lot of people.
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The only thing about Samsung is their hardware is untouchable when it comes to quality. For example the wifi radio it 5 times better than in other phones of the same price. But that software man. I just cant do it. It is a shame the phone has 8 gigs of ram and 7 of it is taken up by system/bloatware. ( and yes 7 gigs is an exaggeration but you get the point) when my friend got the s10 i thought about it because they say the new ui is not like touchwiz but i ran some tests on his brand new s10 and compared them to my pixel 2xl and yeah the s10 had some great features that at the time you could not get with any pixel but I gotta say my 2xl was almost as snappy as his s10 and it all came down to memory management and system resources being used by the s10. Both stock phones no root or anything. Yeah the s10 was a bit faster but the 2xl held up with its 4 gigs of ram and 835 snapdragon against 8gigs of ram and snapdragon 855 in the s10. Its all about knowing the os and how to use it. And google is the undefeated master of both. and dont say well google made android that is only partially true I put this in another post google made android alongside the great devs here at xda its their commits that google uses for pixel features and google watches whats going on here and what people are doing with android and they incorporate it into aosp and then onto pixel. anyway if your like the rest of us and strapped for cash right now you cant go wrong with the 4a. 4xl is still on sale and for that price its a good deal i think I grabbed mine up before things got really rough. Either way you will have a good snappy phone that takes great pics and never bogs down. Stay safe my friends.
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The only thing about Samsung is their hardware is untouchable when it comes to quality. For example the wifi radio it 5 times better than in other phones of the same price. But that software man. I just cant do it. It is a shame the phone has 8 gigs of ram and 7 of it is taken up by system/bloatware. ( and yes 7 gigs is an exaggeration but you get the point) when my friend got the s10 i thought about it because they say the new ui is not like touchwiz but i ran some tests on his brand new s10 and compared them to my pixel 2xl and yeah the s10 had some great features that at the time you could not get with any pixel but I gotta say my 2xl was almost as snappy as his s10 and it all came down to memory management and system resources being used by the s10. Both stock phones no root or anything. Yeah the s10 was a bit faster but the 2xl held up with its 4 gigs of ram and 835 snapdragon against 8gigs of ram and snapdragon 855 in the s10. Its all about knowing the os and how to use it. And google is the undefeated master of both. and dont say well google made android that is only partially true I put this in another post google made android alongside the great devs here at xda its their commits that google uses for pixel features and google watches whats going on here and what people are doing with android and they incorporate it into aosp and then onto pixel. anyway if your like the rest of us and strapped for cash right now you cant go wrong with the 4a. 4xl is still on sale and for that price its a good deal i think I grabbed mine up before things got really rough. Either way you will have a good snappy phone that takes great pics and never bogs down. Stay safe my friends.
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I can do with Samsung's crappy software compared to Google's stock Android, but the camera is awful man. Samsung's hardware quality is on par with iPhones but the camera still sucks even with their ultra phone.
Now that apple has got their **** together and I can say pictures are marginally better on iPhones now plus the iphone's video capabilities are untouchable.
Samsung has got to step up their camera game with software and drop the hardware approach on the matter.
Will008 said:
I can do with Samsung's crappy software compared to Google's stock Android, but the camera is awful man. Samsung's hardware quality is on par with iPhones but the camera still sucks even with their ultra phone.
Now that apple has got their **** together and I can say pictures are marginally better on iPhones now plus the iphone's video capabilities are untouchable.
Samsung has got to step up their camera game with software and drop the hardware approach on the matter.
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I agree with the fact that Samsung needs to try a little harder. Maybe less one ui bull crap and a little more camera optimizations
Hi all, I want to take you my experience. My daily driver for the last 3 years is a OnePlus 5. I'm very satisfied about it's performance, but I really don't like the camera and the videos. And now OnePlus prices are so unaffordable to take a new one. So, I decided to switch to the P4A hoping battery and camera will me easily forget my OP5
mattoa said:
Hi all, I want to take you my experience. My daily driver for the last 3 years is a OnePlus 5. I'm very satisfied about it's performance, but I really don't like the camera and the videos. And now OnePlus prices are so unaffordable to take a new one. So, I decided to switch to the P4A hoping battery and camera will me easily forget my OP5
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I almost got a OnePlus myself, have you tried the gcam mod for the OnePlus?
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/p/gcam-oneplus-5-5t/
Currently using Verizon Google Pixel 2 XL
Retired: Verizon Motorola Moto Z2 Play
Retired: Verizon LG G4, Model: LG-VS986
Retired: Motorola DROID RAZR HD, Model: XT926
Oh yes I tried, but it works better with rooted devices and I don't want to root mine now. If you have some version that works without root too I will download it immediately :laugh:
mattoa said:
Oh yes I tried, but it works better with rooted devices and I don't want to root mine now. If you have some version that works without root too I will download it immediately :laugh:
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I had a oneplus 6 when it came out. Gcam was very buggy, couldn't depend on it much. Still using my pixel 2xl, best pixel phone the every made to date.
mattoa said:
Oh yes I tried, but it works better with rooted devices and I don't want to root mine now. If you have some version that works without root too I will download it immediately [emoji23]
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You can try this one, hopefully all goes smoothly after install.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/themes/app-arnova8g2s-google-camera-port-t3731001
Currently using Verizon Google Pixel 2 XL
Retired: Verizon Motorola Moto Z2 Play
Retired: Verizon LG G4, Model: LG-VS986
Retired: Motorola DROID RAZR HD, Model: XT926
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Will008 said:
I had a oneplus 6 when it came out. Gcam was very buggy, couldn't depend on it much. Still using my pixel 2xl, best pixel phone the every made to date.
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No doubt about that, they say even better than the Pixel 3 and 3XL.
Currently using Verizon Google Pixel 2 XL
Retired: Verizon Motorola Moto Z2 Play
Retired: Verizon LG G4, Model: LG-VS986
Retired: Motorola DROID RAZR HD, Model: XT926
If someone can help me. With the leaks I think we pretty much now what to expect from the Pixel 4a.
I have a dilemma though. The Pixel 4A is expected to release at the €400 price in a few weeks. But I can also get the Poco F2 Pro for €450. The issue I have is that looking at the specs and videos available, the F2 PRO has a lot better specs on paper. Larger battery life, HDR10+, big screen Snapdragon 865 so its 5G enabled (in case I ever need it).
I've been running Lineage OS in my very old Oneplus One. And back in the day I had the Nexus One. I would love to get the latest Google updates and I'm missing out on the latest assistant of course.
So I know many of you have been running Pixel phones and are looking at the Pixel 4A.
My question is. Is it really worth it going for a lower specs phone like the Pixel 4A over a phone like the Poco F2 PRO? And if so. Why?
Couldn't II get the same Google experience on the Poco F2 PRO later on by installing a custom ROM?
Thans for your help.
Cometer said:
If someone can help me. With the leaks I think we pretty much now what to expect from the Pixel 4a.
I have a dilemma though. The Pixel 4A is expected to release at the €400 price in a few weeks. But I can also get the Poco F2 Pro for €450. The issue I have is that looking at the specs and videos available, the F2 PRO has a lot better specs on paper. Larger battery life, HDR10+, big screen Snapdragon 865 so its 5G enabled (in case I ever need it).
I've been running Lineage OS in my very old Oneplus One. And back in the day I had the Nexus One. I would love to get the latest Google updates and I'm missing out on the latest assistant of course.
So I know many of you have been running Pixel phones and are looking at the Pixel 4A.
My question is. Is it really worth it going for a lower specs phone like the Pixel 4A over a phone like the Poco F2 PRO? And if so. Why?
Couldn't II get the same Google experience on the Poco F2 PRO later on by installing a custom ROM?
Thans for your help.
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My 2 cents after using all the Nexus and pixel phones up to the 2xl. Haven't upgraded since cause the 3XL and 4XL have sub par battery performance, more on the 3XL than the 4XL though.
The only reason I can not bare to use another phone is the camera. I was spoiled with the photo quality of the Nexus 6p which is still better than a lot of 2020 flagship phones camera performance. I upgraded to the OnePlus 6 from the Nexus 6p which was an amazing phone at the time, but after two months I switch to the pixel 2xl solely because of the photo quality from the cameras. Google camera ports are never reliable, you should not buy a phone thinking you will use it full time cause u won't be able to.
Pixel phones lack support except in the US. Always plagued with hardware issues and it's a lottery if you get a device without the issues. Since I don't live in the US it's a pain in the ass to even get a case or a screen protector and I have to pay for international shipping. I couldn't even file the Nexus 6p class action lawsuit claim cause I don't live in the US. God forbid if I break the screen or anything happens, I'm completely on my own. Honestly I'm kind of fed up with Google and their crap. I'm one of their most loyal customers but they do not care about their customer base while they just want to grow pixel sales, which is contradictive.
Also there is the news of Marc Levoy leaving Google after he basically put them on the map, cause imo if the pixel phones had the same camera as other phones it wouldn't have sold more than a few hundred phones ever year. This news comes with a lot of concern, imo the camera quality didn't improve much in the last 4 years (Nexus 6p). Phones from the Nexus 6p are very comparable to photos from the pixel 3XL. Very slight improvements every year, while apple just closed the gap this year with the iPhone 11.
With the discounts of the 4XL only real difference is
1- get a mid range phone with good battery life and possibly no hardware issues cause they are not trying to reinvent the wheel with this one, like they do with the pixel line.
2- get the flagship pixel 4XL but gamble on screen quality and battery life. I have seen people on reddit saying that their pixel 4XL has worse screens than their pixel 2XL. The screen on the pixel 2xl is the worst thing on it! And was considered a con when it came out.
After realizing that both choices are bad, I'm starting to seriously consider jumping ship to apple with the upcoming iPhone 12pro. With apply I would certainly get what I pay for in terms of quality, still with a list of disadvantage. But I would get official support world wide, buying accessories won't be such a pain in my ass and most importantly camera quality is now debated to be on the same level as pixels if not better.
This got way longer than intended.
TL;DR: The only reason to get a pixel is to have one of the best cameras on a phone. Other than that it's all the same with android, more or less. Specially of you root get into custom roms.

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