For those like me who cannot be without Viper4android, herehttps://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80185220&postcount=13 are instructions to get it working on Android 10.
I take no credit for this.
Thanks to @1dopewrx05 for his instructions, which I have followed and work like a charm.
Thank you for link! Method posted above is confirmed working!
Thanks, als working on my 3a (sargo) on latest December
Royalfox said:
Thanks, als working on my 3a (sargo) on latest December
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Good to know it helped.
I wish I could get Dolby Atmos working also.
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Good to know it helped.
I wish I could get Dolby Atmos working also.
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Nobody is actively porting audio mods anymore. Except for DTS I suppose.
For now the goto is to use Ainur Sauron or Narsil and/or any of Viper, JDSP, and DTS.
Obviously when it comes to audio mods, less is more though. Too much signal processing is detrimental to the audio quality and generally makes it sound worse. So I'd suggest only using one of the DSPs with one version of Ainur at most.
But in my experience the 3a(xl) doesn't really need any audiomods. The ****ty earbuds I got with mine along with decent quality audio files is more than enough clarity wise. I also got a new pair of true wireless earbuds (Liberty 2 Pros) and they sound phenomenal.
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Skittles9823 said:
Nobody is actively porting audio mods anymore. Except for DTS I suppose.
For now the goto is to use Ainur Sauron or Narsil and/or any of Viper, JDSP, and DTS.
Obviously when it comes to audio mods, less is more though. Too much signal processing is detrimental to the audio quality and generally makes it sound worse. So I'd suggest only using one of the DSPs with one version of Ainur at most.
But in my experience the 3a(xl) doesn't really need any audiomods. The ****ty earbuds I got with mine along with decent quality audio files is more than enough clarity wise. I also got a new pair of true wireless earbuds (Liberty 2 Pros) and they sound phenomenal.
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The Pixel 3a sounds very good. But with viper I can simulate a wider soundstage on my Bluetooth earbuds, and they sound way better than they deserve. I have a pair of soundcore liberty 2 that are bass heavy, even with the Anker app. They give you many presets, but not a custom one, go figure.
About Dolby Atmos, I realize that two apps could over process sound, but on my Galaxy S7, I had a pretty good balance. Plus I like to experiment a bit.
Thanks for the info btw
Not sure if I did something wrong but this obliterated my battery life. I went from 9-10 hrs screen time to 3 1/2.
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Not sure if I did something wrong but this obliterated my battery life. I went from 9-10 hrs screen time to 3 1/2.
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No battery issues here.
In fact, the only problem I have is that sometimes viper stops working and I have to restart the phone.
I have no mods/modules installed other than viper4a.
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Hi,
Just picked up a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 to use as a hiqh quality audio player on the run with my headphones. This was the result of some heavy research and a few posts of praise by Supercurio himself:
On Galaxy Tab 2 7.0, #WM1811 driver uses already the optimal analog mixer configuration I'm calling "Dac Direct" in #VoodooSound. Nice!
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Yup #GalaxySIII and #GalaxyTab 2 7.0 DAC both give lower distortions levels than FIIO E17 USB DAC. Measurements just confirmed perception.
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So, now that hardware seem to be top notch I don't want to mess up the software part. :silly:
1. Will flashing a non-stock ROM mess up the "Dac Direct" configuration?
2. Any recommended ROM with full focus on audio quality through headphones?
3. Or will actually any AOSP KitKat ROM be able to deliver maximum audio quality?
I don't care about effects. Just want as good audio quality through the headphone jack as possible. I will most likely install the "maximum volume mod" (found in the forum) and Viper4Android on any rom used.
Any input is appreciated!
Thanks.
Take a look at this rom
It's stock based.
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Hi,
Just picked up a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 to use as a hiqh quality audio player on the run with my headphones. This was the result of some heavy research and a few posts of praise by Supercurio himself:
So, now that hardware seem to be top notch I don't want to mess up the software part. :silly:
1. Will flashing a non-stock ROM mess up the "Dac Direct" configuration?
2. Any recommended ROM with full focus on audio quality through headphones?
3. Or will actually any AOSP KitKat ROM be able to deliver maximum audio quality?
I don't care about effects. Just want as good audio quality through the headphone jack as possible. I will most likely install the "maximum volume mod" (found in the forum) and Viper4Android on any rom used.
Any input is appreciated!
Thanks.
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Sungsonic HD is best Stock based ROM ever which offers premium quality sound. There are basically two Kitkat based ROMs (AFAIK) named Izer HD and Dhollman ROM which have Viper4Android sound effects with great inbuilt equalizers... here you go :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2668994
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2580426
in case of Dhollman you will have to flash Viper4android sounds effects separately....but in Izer hd it comes by default......
CyanogenMod has a nice audio tuner allowing you to tune your sound to your likings.
If it is not already clear, you can also tune your headphones sound.
Big thanks to all of you for taking the time to reply to my question.
I'm a bit worried though that the ROMs mentioned - well not CM, but the other two - seem to have loads of apps, mods and tweaks ported from other devices which could actually cause instability and degrade the sound. Of course, I don't really know this since I haven't tried them myself, but having flashed a lot of ROMs on other devices I've learned that this is often the case....
I am leaning towards trying two different configurations and then deciding.
Stock (rooted) + Viper4Android
CM11 + Viper4Android
Once again, thanks for your input!
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Somehow I missed the suggestion of Dhollmen KitKat ROM above. That actually seems really interresting. I like the fact that it is compiled using Linaro, which suggest a nice attention to detail by the dev.
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Big thanks to all of you for taking the time to reply to my question.
I'm a bit worried though that the ROMs mentioned - well not CM, but the other two - seem to have loads of apps, mods and tweaks ported from other devices which could actually cause instability and degrade the sound. Of course, I don't really know this since I haven't tried them myself, but having flashed a lot of ROMs on other devices I've learned that this is often the case....
I am leaning towards trying two different configurations and then deciding.
Stock (rooted) + Viper4Android
CM11 + Viper4Android
Once again, thanks for your input!
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If you are actually trying to install it, it'd be a nice try to tune your sound, keep the volume a bit low, and over that, try to make some mixer/equalizer tuning to make it sound quite a bit louder, while still sounding nice, without any distortions. Somewhat like Loudness Equalization.
CyanogenMod is basically full stock Android, with a few tweaks, some of them including Audio.
Speaking of loads of apps installed..
DSP Manager is included with CyanogenMod... and not much apps have been added. It's also much faster than your average Android ROM.
CyanogenModFTW said:
If you are actually trying to install it, it'd be a nice try to tune your sound, keep the volume a bit low, and over that, try to make some mixer/equalizer tuning to make it sound quite a bit louder, while still sounding nice, without any distortions. Somewhat like Loudness Equalization.
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Yes, properly EQing my headphones is the main reason for installing Viper. I do it a lot on my computer, using a parametric EQ, and to tell the truth, I can't really enjoy music anymore without being able to finely tune my headphones....
I don't care at all for other effects as my experience is that they always degrade the sound (which is also why I steered away from the ROMs mentioned above, even if they are popular).
Strange enough though, I didn't find the volume lacking at all. To me, the headphone amp is powerful enough on stock settings. :good:
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I do like DSP Manager in CM (running CM10.1 and CM11 on other devices). It's a really great EQ, and pretty refined crossfeed effect. However, IMHO Viper is a little bit better for my needs.
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Yes, properly EQing my headphones is the main reason for installing Viper. I do it a lot on my computer, using a parametric EQ, and to tell the truth, I can't really enjoy music anymore without being able to finely tune my headphones....
I don't care at all for other effects as my experience is that they always degrade the sound (which is also why I steered away from the ROMs mentioned above, even if they are popular).
Strange enough though, I didn't find the volume lacking at all. To me, the headphone amp is powerful enough on stock settings. :good:
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I do have a nice configuration on my p5100, I have my sound set to low, but it's great and loud sounding. I have enabled bass boosting, and made a custom Equalizer preset that boosts up the mid frequencies quite a bit.
Also, CyanogenMod is a fast and fluid, lightweight ROM which is also good for everyday uses. The tweaks make for a good ROM, so far I haven't had any problems.
You should try the settings which work best with your speakers or headphones, they are never the same and never reproduce the same frequencies.
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It was also worth to mention that I have reccomended Cyanogen because DSP Manager is really simple to use. I've found the tweaks and effects to be instant.
I have now rooted my P3110 and installed Viper4Android. Only judging from what I hear, the "direct DAC" configuration (mentioned in the first post) does not seem to be messed up, because the audio coming out of the headphone jack still seems immaculately clear. :good:
Using Viper I can now tweak the EQ to my heart's content. Just wish there were a few more bands....
Since I'm mostly using my P3110 for listening to music, I think I will stay stock for now. Doesn't seem all that laggy to me!
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Somehow I missed the suggestion of Dhollmen KitKat ROM above. That actually seems really interresting. I like the fact that it is compiled using Linaro, which suggest a nice attention to detail by the dev.[/QUOTE]
By far the best. There will be no disappointment. Try it and judge for yourself
Thanks for your advice. I have now installed Dhollmen AOKP KitKat ROM, and I must say the speed and snappiness of the GUI is nothing short of amazing. Suddenly feels like a high end device - I'm thoroughly impressed! :good:
Now, to the sound. I think it's really good. The clarity is still there. But there seems to be some kind of bass boost always enabled. Even turning Viper completely off the level of bass definitely feels higher than before.
Is this all in my head or could it be explained by something under the hood?
Maybe the bass was a bit recessed with stock ROM...
Anyway, after experiencing this speed, there is no going back!
Sent a long time ago from a Galaxy S2 far, far away...
For future reference....
After listening a lot on said configuration I can now with full confidence claim that the audio output is truly great. I actually think the bass was unnaturally recessed on the stock ROM, as previously suspected.
Furthermore, I have done the Boosted volume mod found in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2294136 It helps immensely to improve the output stage, which now drives my somewhat hard to drive headphones immaculately!
So, to conclude this thread, for others looking for the best possible audio quality on their Tab 2, do try:
Any non-bloated Kit Kat ROM + Viper4Android + Boosted volume mod. :good:
Dhollmen, mentioned above, comes pre-installed with Viper, and is a great polished ROM, but I guess any bare bones Kit Kat ROM would do the job, such as Omni or CM.
Happy audiophiling!
Im getting horrible bluetooth sound quality from my note 5 on tekxodus v4.4. When I play audio straight from an aux cable to my jbl xtreme speaker it sounds great. But, when i switch to bluetooth, the audio quality takes a very noticable dive down the tubes. anybody know how to fix this? thanks in adavance
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Im getting horrible bluetooth sound quality from my note 5 on tekxodus v4.4. When I play audio straight from an aux cable to my jbl xtreme speaker it sounds great. But, when i switch to bluetooth, the audio quality takes a very noticable dive down the tubes. anybody know how to fix this? thanks in adavance
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You should have post this on tekxodus thread you will get more help and the owner of rom can help or anybody if anyone is having same issue
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yea, sorry I know it should be in the tekxodus thread, but since im a new user it wont let me post there until ive got 10 posta under my belt. I got redirected to the general thread
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Im getting horrible bluetooth sound quality from my note 5 on tekxodus v4.4. When I play audio straight from an aux cable to my jbl xtreme speaker it sounds great. But, when i switch to bluetooth, the audio quality takes a very noticable dive down the tubes. anybody know how to fix this? thanks in adavance
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Go into your sound settings and make sure UHQ Upscaler is off. Then go into Viper4Android and make sure its activated for bluetooh (it has its own section). You should be able to play with the sound now. Between Viper, Beats, and Dolby, you should be able to get it sounding right.
One thing I also found is sometimes the mods stop processing the sound, so you just have to toggle the UHQ Upscaler on and off again and you should be good.
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Go into your sound settings and make sure UHQ Upscaler is off. Then go into Viper4Android and make sure its activated for bluetooh (it has its own section). You should be able to play with the sound now. Between Viper, Beats, and Dolby, you should be able to get it sounding right.
One thing I also found is sometimes the mods stop processing the sound, so you just have to toggle the UHQ Upscaler on and off again and you should be good.
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Hey man, thanks for the tips. I gave it a try and toggled the UHQ uscaler without success. Its really the native un equalized sound that Im looking for. On tekxodus, the bluetooth audio sound is very hollow and weak. After I switched to a different rom the full sound came back again. oh well, win some, lose some.
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Hey man, thanks for the tips. I gave it a try and toggled the UHQ uscaler without success. Its really the native un equalized sound that Im looking for. On tekxodus, the bluetooth audio sound is very hollow and weak. After I switched to a different rom the full sound came back again. oh well, win some, lose some.
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Sure thing, man. When I was on that ROM I found that the audio was very bad unless you go into the mods and tweak them. The problem was, I have a Tasker profile that reboots my phone every night while I sleep, and none of the tweaks I applied remained after the reboot, so I had to go back in and redo it every day. It became very time consuming.
There's a thread in the MODs section that tells you how to get Viper working on any ROM and now I've go the best of both worlds. Running Darthstalker, Arters kernel 11 and Viper. It's glorious. Bluetooth and all.
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Sure thing, man. When I was on that ROM I found that the audio was very bad unless you go into the mods and tweak them. The problem was, I have a Tasker profile that reboots my phone every night while I sleep, and none of the tweaks I applied remained after the reboot, so I had to go back in and redo it every day. It became very time consuming.
There's a thread in the MODs section that tells you how to get Viper working on any ROM and now I've go the best of both worlds. Running Darthstalker, Arters kernel 11 and Viper. It's glorious. Bluetooth and all.
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I think it's a conflict of all the sound mods trying to run at once. On the last few pages you'll see a few posts about it and a mod that makes them all run in glorious harmony.
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Hey man, thanks for the tips. I gave it a try and toggled the UHQ uscaler without success. Its really the native un equalized sound that Im looking for. On tekxodus, the bluetooth audio sound is very hollow and weak. After I switched to a different rom the full sound came back again. oh well, win some, lose some.
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Appears awful when compared to my s5. Any Base makes vocal go almost to a pint you can't hear it and too much vocal results in tinny Base.
I've rooted and put v4a on the phone,but it's still awful with that too. Hoping a kernel with audio enhancements such as boeffla may make things better though?
you rooted S7E already?? WOW
I don't care about the audio quality of the noise coming out of that little noisemaker they call "speaker" but when I plug it in my car with the AUX cable, it seems to me so far that I have to fiddle with EQ much more than on my Note 5. The audio quality of LG Flex 2 was better than S5, Note 5 better than Flex 2, S7E... ? I don't know yet. Probably better than Flex 2 but it can't touch Note 5. IMHO
Note 5 has Wolfson chip AFAIK.What's in the S7E I don't know.
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Appears awful when compared to my s5. Any Base makes vocal go almost to a pint you can't hear it and too much vocal results in tinny Base.
I've rooted and put v4a on the phone,but it's still awful with that too. Hoping a kernel with audio enhancements such as boeffla may make things better though?
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V4A? May i ask how did you managed to install it on a enforcing kernel?
Could you please provide steps...
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you rooted S7E already?? WOW
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How?
Guys, check the kernel and ROM forum. Root has been available since Saturday.
V4a works by flagging a zip file that makes changes to v4a to allow it to work with kernel selinux enforced set, then put v4a in compatible mode. It sounds awful though for some reason.
Would highly recommend using neutron from the play store as I found this produces far superior sound quality.
Oh I should mention root is only available for exynos version and not snapdragon.
I find the audio fine using the music player neutron and have setup soundalive and UHQ upscaler and tube amp pro.
I use Sennheiser MOMENTUM In-Ear
http://en-uk.sennheiser.com/momentum-headphones-in-ear
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Aux Cord Noise~?
I'd love to know if I am the only one experiencing problems with using an auxiliary jack cord?
It's littered with noise no matter what. Headphones sound great though...
I returned my first device thinking there was a physical problem with the port only to find the same problem in this one.
5 different auxiliary cables purchased and tested all poor quality only on this device.
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I'd love to know if I am the only one experiencing problems with using an auxiliary jack cord?
It's littered with noise no matter what. Headphones sound great though...
I returned my first device thinking there was a physical problem with the port only to find the same problem in this one.
5 different auxiliary cables purchased and tested all poor quality only on this device.
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Yes, same here. Switching on UHQ upscaler in sound setting fixes it. Sometimes, however, I have to toggle it off and on to get rid of the hissing noise.
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Yes, same here. Switching on UHQ upscaler in sound setting fixes it. Sometimes, however, I have to toggle it off and on to get rid of the hissing noise.
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I appreciate that, I'll have to try and let everyone know if that works.. I saw threads on other websites with no answers so really, thank you.
Seems rather odd even samsung support has no idea about this either.
But Samsung uhq upscaler work only with Samsung headphones (like level on wireless pro), so possibility of using this feature is limited
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Yes, same here. Switching on UHQ upscaler in sound setting fixes it. Sometimes, however, I have to toggle it off and on to get rid of the hissing noise.
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Identical issue for me as well. Thought I was going insane...tried three different aux cords and tried cleaning inputs in the car and on the phone. Headphones work fine. Toggling UHQ upscaler fixes the issue for me too. Very annoying....but glad I'm not the only one.
I am extremely disappointed with the S7 Edge's audio quality. First of all, the bundled earphones are bad and be it any file - FLAC UHQ 24 bit or an MP3, the sound pis very muddy. They fail to do justice to the lows and highs. Speaking for the device, my dad's Galaxy S5 sounds wonderful with heavy bass without compromising on the highs and the same goes with the Note 3. Samsung should have used a decent DAC and software to make the sound good for such a premium device. Even the low end Samsung devices have a good DAC.
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I am extremely disappointed with the S7 Edge's audio quality. First of all, the bundled earphones are bad and be it any file - FLAC UHQ 24 bit or an MP3, the sound pis very muddy. They fail to do justice to the lows and highs. Speaking for the device, my dad's Galaxy S5 sounds wonderful with heavy bass without compromising on the highs and the same goes with the Note 3. Samsung should have used a decent DAC and software to make the sound good for such a premium device. Even the low end Samsung devices have a good DAC.
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If you want a phone for Audio get a ZTE Axon 7, HTC 10, LG V20. Only devices that are aiming for great audio quality :good:
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I am extremely disappointed with the S7 Edge's audio quality. First of all, the bundled earphones are bad and be it any file - FLAC UHQ 24 bit or an MP3, the sound pis very muddy. They fail to do justice to the lows and highs. Speaking for the device, my dad's Galaxy S5 sounds wonderful with heavy bass without compromising on the highs and the same goes with the Note 3. Samsung should have used a decent DAC and software to make the sound good for such a premium device. Even the low end Samsung devices have a good DAC.
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If you want a phone for Audio get a ZTE Axon 7, HTC 10, LG V20. Only devices that are aiming for great audio quality :good:
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There is nothing wrong with the DAC. It has a low noise floor and the frequency graph is almost completely flat. The headphone amp however is nothing to write home about. On the Exynos version you can at least edit the mixer.xml file to reduce the gimping Samsung did to the volume level to get a much louder sound without distortion. My RHA MA 750i have plenty of bass without the need to EQ etc.
Oh and the stock buds SUCK ASS
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There is nothing wrong with the DAC. It has a low noise floor and the frequency graph is almost completely flat. The headphone amp however is nothing to write home about. On the Exynos version you can at least edit the mixer.xml file to reduce the gimping Samsung did to the volume level to get a much louder sound without distortion. My RHA MA 750i have plenty of bass without the need to EQ etc.
Oh and the stock buds SUCK ASS
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Don't feel like rooting the phone! I regularly use S Health and Knox.. I hope Samsung fixes audio in the next update (if that's possible).
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Don't feel like rooting the phone! I regularly use S Health and Knox.. I hope Samsung fixes audio in the next update (if that's possible).
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Definitely not a need to root BUT if you do, you can still use S Health and Knox with Helios ROM (Stock with optional mods).
They won't. They've gone with the "good enough" approach with the audio rather than wanting to be the best.
Galactus said:
There is nothing wrong with the DAC. It has a low noise floor and the frequency graph is almost completely flat. The headphone amp however is nothing to write home about. On the Exynos version you can at least edit the mixer.xml file to reduce the gimping Samsung did to the volume level to get a much louder sound without distortion. My RHA MA 750i have plenty of bass without the need to EQ etc.
Oh and the stock buds SUCK ASS
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What changes can be made to improve this?
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What changes can be made to improve this?
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Just flash Zubi's sound mod.
Hello considering the u11 has superior sound quality, do we still really need viper to tune up our music sound?
Superior sound quality?
Maybe i am too spoiled and have different standards.
I think V4A is necessary but if i really want to listen at home. I plug in a dac/amp.
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Hello considering the u11 has superior sound quality, do we still really need viper to tune up our music sound?
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Sound quality is more a matter of preference.Viper gives the ability to time to your exact preference.
I tried using Viper with this phone, but couldn't find the version that works flawlessly (and that doesn't break anything), and I can't be bothered with finding the correct version that will work. I don't find it necessary for me. It will be better with it, but I can live without it for now.
The Pixel 4a has this DAC, which as you can see is a great DAC, its specs are even better than many HIFI portable audio players. Well, for the uninitiated, android acts as a bottleneck in this case, as it always limits the audio output to 16bit 48khz (using a low quality resampler for the benefit of performance)
Is there any way I can use it decently? Because Google apparently has no intention of doing anything, it hasn't even shared any information on how to use the DAC, and I don't like the idea of having to use an external dac even though the 4a has a headphone jack.
I'd like to know too. Doesn't Viper4Android help get more out of it? I'm getting pretty great sound with that + PowerAmp.
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I'd like to know too. Doesn't Viper4Android help get more out of it? I'm getting pretty great sound with that + PowerAmp.
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mmm I need to know how you set the audio settings, the output audio is resampled to 48khz? have you set the output in HD?
You mean my settings in PowerAmp or Viper?
Yeah.. It seems that Hi-res potential is not implemented in the stock ROM. Everything is mixed into 48 kHz...
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Yeah.. It seems that Hi-res potential is not implemented in the stock ROM. Everything is mixed into 48 kHz...
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I see. Is there any custom Rom that implements it?
Also, have you tried Ainur Narsil? Perhaps it does what you want. I'm just unsure whether it will work on Android 11, it seems development is paused.
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Also, have you tried Ainur Narsil? Perhaps it does what you want. I'm just unsure whether it will work on Android 11, it seems development is paused.
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I'm not aware of any custom ROM which supports hi-res. If you know, please tell.
I've tried ainur but without success. And smth was even corrupted because sound became worse.
Mary be community should raise an issue for Google.
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I'm not aware of any custom ROM which supports hi-res. If you know, please tell.
I've tried ainur but without success. And smth was even corrupted because sound became worse.
Mary be community should raise an issue for Google.
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I've no idea actually. I'm interested in this stuff, but not so much as to notice worse quality with the 48khz Android output. And yeah, that's why I haven't tried Narsil, it doesn't seem to be too well tested in A11 and we don't even have a proper TWRP in case something goes wrong. Still, I am noticing a difference with my modded Sony NW-A45, but it's not like it sounds better, it sounds different perhaps.
Poweramp is terrible. You need an app that bypasses androids software. Usb audio player pro is the best available. It plays bitperfect audio. Neutron is second, it can also play bitperfect audio. Both apps can output 32bit/364kz at whatever rate the Track allows. Uapp plays MQA as well