Hello guys.
I received my Nokia 7 Plus a few weeks ago and I’m very happy with it. I was excited for the Android One certification, which allows to have the Android updates as fast as possible.
Unfortunately, the phone I bought didn’t find any updates. I was stuck on the Android 8.0 version with Feb. security patches. I knew that Android 8.1 version was out, with June security patches.
After many research, it appears that the carrier you use is blocking updates. In my case that was EE (UK operator) and Bouygues Telecom (French carrier).
The phone seems to be “stuck” in the carrier’s updates channel.
So, in this tutorial, I’m going to show you how to get the latest version of the phone’s system. This tutorial will also allow you to be on the “right” channel for fast updates and opt out of your carrier’s channel (which doesn’t allow you to get the updates as quick as you can.)
The zip file is the latest version of Android Oreo, made for the Nokia 7 plus. Usually it’s used to restore the phone from Android P DP.
IMPORTANT INFORMATION: The zip file is made for a clean installation. So, remember that the phone is going to be wiped, and you will lose anything that’s on it.
You will need
• Nokia 7 plus, model TA-1046, charged at roughly 75%.
• A working computer.
• The file
• USB cable
• A brain.
DOWNLOAD THE FILE :
https://drive.google.com/open?id=10O9OmUm5H8OmKlbOi8AeRupUycqAkp5G (Google Drive)
http://filecloud.io/j20w1rsx7 (Filecloud.io)
http://dl.free.fr/getfile.pl?file=/YIuSIcJk (dl.free.fr)
http://turbobit.net/91r03d5rsiey.html (turbobit.net)
https://uptobox.com/klk9zta4vegl (Uptobox)
1. Download the ZIP file on your computer and transfer it in the root storage of your phone.
2. Disconnect safely your phone from the computer.
3. Open the notifications area of your phone. You should see an OTA update notification.
If you don’t see it, reboot your phone.
4. Click on this OTA notification.
5. Accept the terms and conditions and start the update. It’s better to have the phone plugged to a power socket, if you can.
6. Wait until the completion of the update. It could take a while, so be patient.
7. Let the phone reboot...
8. Go in the settings, and search for updates again. If there’s an update, do it!
Finished! Now, you will have the latest updates, as quick as possible.
This doesn't for me.
mejonoobpoako said:
This doesn't for me.
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Explain what's wrong. I will help you
It doent show any update.
mejonoobpoako said:
It doent show any update.
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Did you reboot your phone and checked the updates on the Settings app ?
Are you sure that the ZIP file is in the root folder of your phone's internal storage ?
I have gone through the rooting and upgrading steps. Let me know if there is anything I missed.
1. Prepare PC. Install ADB and Fire HD 10 driver at https://developer.amazon.com/docs/fire-tablets/connecting-adb-to-device.html.
2. Don't connect to Internet. Keep the device offline. The instruction is in the thread for rooting. Note ROM version. I have version 5.6.1.0. Amazon has implemented anti-rollback boot loader since 5.6.1. If you upgrade using official channel, you won't be able to downgrade. If you follow the step below, root 5.6.1, update to 5.6.3 via FlashFire, it will leave the boot loader unchanged and allows you to downgrade if needed
3. Install ES File Explorer. Need to download the APK. Plug in the USB cable, copy the APK file, and use Documents app to file the file and install it.
4. Root.
4a. I first tried HD 10 (2017): Offline rooting. It's an offline process and does not transfer any of your data to internet (so less privacy concerns). It worked on the first try. However, I messed up the upgrade to 5.6.3.0 so I have to restore to stock 5.6.1.0. Then I could not get it to work. It either timed out or reported success but su is not found.
4b. I then went with KingoRoot. [TUT] ROOT HD 10 (7th Gen 2017) - EASY SuperSu (read this before 1st power on!). The rooting process stucked at 78% for a long time (5-10 min) but eventually succeeded
5. Disable OTA update. The instruction is in step 13 in [TUT] ROOT HD 10 (7th Gen 2017) - EASY SuperSu (read this before 1st power on!). I found out the Xposed installer requires internet, even though just briefly. So I decided it's better if I disable OTA.
6. Install Xposed & Flashfire. HD 10 (2017): Xposed, FlashFire, etc.. FF versions. (v0.24 or v.51) are attached in How to install Xposed & Flashfire for easy backups and ROM updates. In my experience, Xposed installer requires internet connection to install the framework. Otherwise you won't get the Official tab. I disabled WiFi once it's done.
6a. v0.51 did not work for me. It always crashes on start-up, regardless if I have time machine set
6b. v0.24 worked. retyre also mentioned it's more reliable in restore backup
7. Upgraded to 5.6.3 HD 10 (2017): Prerooted Xposed 5.6.3.0 image.
7a. I made a big mistake in the first attempt. I renamed the boot.gz and system.gz to .img file instead of extract the file inside the zip. FF accepted the file but generated error during the flash. After that, it got the Amazon bootloop. I had to restore the stock and restart from step 4
7b. Second time around, I put all the folder under /sdcard/FlashFire/Backups. Then I used restore function FF. This is safer and FF will check for md5sum and reject if the files are incorrect. This went through fine. The recovery step is at the bottom.
8. It's possible to disable OS update but continue to update Amazon packages. The instruction is in the second section in same link above How to enable Amazon packages (apk) updates but prevent the ROM updates (keeping root & rootable rom) This allows APK updates and install them in /data/app. The ROM in /system is not touched. It's a good way to stay current while not touching ROM (and keeping root!). Note the image flashed in step 7 already has this taken care of.
9. Install Google Play Store.
@bibikalka has provided the following (post #1)
Amazon Fire 5th Gen [SuperTool] Root, Google play install, block ota updates and more
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Run this tool and choose the option to install Google.
Worked!
Here are some other candidates but I did not try them.
COMPLETELY 'GOOGLE-IZE' YOUR AMAZON FIRE TAB (Confirmed Working)
[GUIDE] Sideloading Google Apps - 100% WORKING! (ROOT)
https://www.howtogeek.com/232726/how-to-install-the-google-play-store-on-your-amazon-fire-tablet/
10. Change SuperSU to limit app which has root access. SuperSU access workaround for Fire devices. For me: After forced stop, the App tab will show the new app added without reboot. However, the new app does not take effect until reboot. And upon reboot, any app not yet installed will disappear from the App tab
11. Remove lock screen ad. Use the super tool again and worked! Amazon Fire 5th Gen [SuperTool] Root, Google play install, block ota updates and more
12. Replace launcher. New: Any Launcher, No Root (Launcher Hijack V3). It worked but the flicker is killing me. I then used Tips, Tricks, and the Root!. Move Nova to system app using Link2SD and disable Fire Launcher. Much better. Note the following from that thread. And there must be empty line at the bottom of build.prop
You should install Nova as a system app. Then you get the Google Now page without having to install another apk. If you are going to keep Fire Launcher, but leave it disabled, add this line to your build.prop, at the very bottom:
Code:
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1
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13. [ROOT] Enable ALL Lock Screen Lock Options. You need the premium version of Activity Manager. In its settings, these options must be set: Show system app indicator (might be optional), Show not exported activities, Allow ROOT operations. In my experience, about 30% of time after reboot, the screen will loop between screen saver and black and never show the unlock pattern. I have disabled this function and went back to PIN. So I no longer recommend this step.
14. Disable bloatware. [GUIDE] Remove all bloatware from your Fire HD 10 (2017). This is written for 5.6.0. Updated: Amazon System App / Bloatware Tracking Sheet - as of FireOS 5.6.2.0. I did not find a thread for 5.6.3. Note the following 2 if you want to use them
My Account: com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe
Backup & Restore: com.amazon.device.backup
15. Google Assistant. [GUIDE] [NO ROOT]: Activate FULL Google Assistant!.
Have to install specific version of Google App Google App 8.33.6.21 (arm-v7a) (nodpi) (Android 5.0+) and don't forget to disable auto-update in Play Store. Update: this is working. However, it's a bit sluggish. I have now uninstall Google Assistant.
---- Maybe Later: Other Optimization
Making The Most of Root on Fire Tablet 10 (tweaks/apps/modules/hacks/optimizations).
Appendix
A1. Recovery to stock ROM. The instruction is at Unbrick/Restore/Downgrade Stock Firmware [Amazon Fire HD 8 & HD 10]. This is written for the older version of Fire HD but the steps remain valid. The ROM is available from post 2 in [TUT] ROOT HD 10 (7th Gen 2017) - EASY SuperSu (read this before 1st power on!). I used the below
FireOS 5.6.1.0 (still rootable, but cannot be downgraded to anything earlier!)
update-kindle-40.6.0.5_user_605485120.bin
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@redhonker
Hmm, must have been hours on XDA to compile this together
For your Google Play Store issue, there is an oldie but goodie - Amazon Fire 5th gen SuperTool. Works like a charm to install Play store on Fire HD 10! In fact, I stopped messing with the GAPPS flashing for Fires even when I have root, and just use this tool. Since 2015, for most tablets the underlying Android is still the same - Lollipop 5.1.1
https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/development/amazon-fire-5th-gen-supertool-root-t3272695
https://www.rootjunky.com/
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@redhonker
Hmm, must have been hours on XDA to compile this together
For your Google Play Store issue, there is an oldie but goodie - Amazon Fire 5th gen SuperTool. Works like a charm to install Play store on Fire HD 10! In fact, I stopped messing with the GAPPS flashing for Fires even when I have root, and just use this tool. Since 2015, for most tablets the underlying Android is still the same - Lollipop 5.1.1
https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/development/amazon-fire-5th-gen-supertool-root-t3272695
https://www.rootjunky.com/
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Thanks, I've added it to the first post. Will try that first.
The link you provided for rootjunky. What should I use from there? I can go to the section for Kindle Fire HD but I think it's the older model. I did own one before and I was able to install TWRP on it. But the 2017 model has no custom recovery available yet, right?
redhonker said:
Thanks, I've added it to the first post. Will try that first.
The link you provided for rootjunky. What should I use from there? I can go to the section for Kindle Fire HD but I think it's the older model. I did own one before and I was able to install TWRP on it. But the 2017 model has no custom recovery available yet, right?
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Sorry, it was a bit confusing! You should be using this file (it's linked to in the XDA post):
http://rootjunkysdl.com/files/Amazon Fire 5th gen/SuperTool/AmazonFire5thGenSuperTool.zip
Once you unpack, you can start the bat script (under windows), and then it'll have option 2 which will install all Play Store components.
Thank you, this was helpful.. I have ordered a HD 10 as well and plan to do the same.
But, I'm confused on Step 2 and Step 4. In step 4, you say even the latest version can be rooted (which is my understanding as well), but in step 2 you say not to allow it to upgrade to the latest version.
Why not just do all the updates BEFORE rooting? Am I misunderstanding something?
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Thank you, this was helpful.. I have ordered a HD 10 as well and plan to do the same.
But, I'm confused on Step 2 and Step 4. In step 4, you say even the latest version can be rooted (which is my understanding as well), but in step 2 you say not to allow it to upgrade to the latest version.
Why not just do all the updates BEFORE rooting? Am I misunderstanding something?
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I updated step 2. It refers to anti-rollback so you can't downgrade OS version.
Others have recommended against upgrade first. Maybe Amazon just released a new update and you won't be able to root or downgrade. Practically, it probably won't really happen.
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I just ordered one. I have gathered the following information. Please correct me if there is anything incorrect.
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This is really great I just got mine yesterday and I was just going to root and remove Amazons stuff. You reminded me that it's probably best to back up something before you start messing with it. I'm used to having a recovery like twrp though, but oh well. I'm wondering what path you will take in regards to installing FF and Xposed and doing a backup. I'm reading your links (from retyre) and it's suggested that you do the backup before installing Xposed (I think) but with FF and SuperSu as system apps. Are u going to use the DD command for back up or just use the altered version FF. I'm just a little confused after reading this links and just wanted to get your thoughts. Incidentally what are you using file explorer for? I would think you can just push it to the tablet than install it alternatively I have a USB to microusb that I think I can mount usb. Thanks. Unless things have changed es file explorer is full of bloat I would suggest mix explorer
I have rooted and installed xposed. I installed google play store and titanium backups. I couldn't really figure out how to install flashfire. But I'm to scared to try to add any modules on xposed as I still can't figure out how to restore my titanium back up??
I haven't done any rooting in a long time, but as far as my memory goes, you make an update.zip file as your backup but you need a custom recover or something to to be able to flash it? like TWRP. is flashfire that equivalent?
@looney417
Yes the bootloader is locked, as of now I guess, and so there is no custom recovery. I do believe flash fire is the method being used for raw backups. One of the links in the first post refers to Retyres work and he also mentioned the Linux command DD to make a back up after you gain root. There is some creative work arounds and some hard work and experimentation done here I think we are benefitting from. I'm struggling with the order of operations here too but I've been playing with and rooting devices since the original Google phone Nexus one and you always try and get a good back up before you start messing around. The one big no-no right now is flashing an older version of the fire OS. This results in a hard brick bc Amazon instituted anti roll back measures in there boot loader.
Hello, I have just rooted my new Fire with the offline method, I have followed all the steps for the newbie listed here but I got stucked at 5) point,
I read couple of times the topics about flashfire and Xposed but I really can't understand some things:
What exactly is Flashfire? Is it an app? Do I need it to upgrade the system?
In order to work FF needs Xposed? Or not?
Why Xposed could be useful on this Fire HD 10?
Last question, in the FF and Xposed topic is written that I have to dd my img?! And then root again?!
I am so sorry for my disability.... Is there any other clear guide to install Xposed and Flashfire? And something that explain why these tools are useful and what aim they pursue
Thank you everyone for this great guides about fire HD btw
I have just purchased a fire HD 10, i am also wanting to root, and install gplay but haven't rooted for a while, i have actually asked Amazon for a return label as i was extremely dissapointed with the poxy adds for the screensaver/lockscreen! I wish Amazon would word things correctly! "With offers" = With ADDS!!! "Without offers" = "Without ADDS"
Other than paying Amazon £10! is there a way to remove them?? Very curious to find out.
Also has anyone had any issues with the brightness slightly fading in and out, ie brightness going up and down?? I have checked the settings, and adaptive brightness is on, however, the lighting in the room is constantly the same and never changes, i have kept it on a stand and monitored it, and it does fade in and out/up and down slightly. Its very odd.
Is this a bug within the OS?
I have even turned off the adaptive brightness and it still does the same?
Was just curious if anyone else had experienced this?
I would also like to remove the bottom nav bar as it is constantly there and really annoying!!
Is there a way to do this, i wish that black bar was transparent, i would then have an actual 10.1" tablet, not a 9.7" one!! Is there a way?
Looks like and Awesome guide, would love to get these issues sorted, and root, but not sure if my experience would be adequet?, some things are a little bit over my head.?
Logoutt said:
Hello, I have just rooted my new Fire with the offline method, I have followed all the steps for the newbie listed here but I got stucked at 5) point,
I read couple of times the topics about flashfire and Xposed but I really can't understand some things:
What exactly is Flashfire? Is it an app? Do I need it to upgrade the system?
In order to work FF needs Xposed? Or not?
Why Xposed could be useful on this Fire HD 10?
Last question, in the FF and Xposed topic is written that I have to dd my img?! And then root again?!
I am so sorry for my disability.... Is there any other clear guide to install Xposed and Flashfire? And something that explain why these tools are useful and what aim they pursue
Thank you everyone for this great guides about fire HD btw
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I will give it a try before the experts weigh in.
FlashFire is an app. The 2017 Fire HD 10 has a locked bootloader and so far there is no way to install custom recovery. So FlashFire is the only way easy way to backup/upgrade OS.
FlashFire checks date to see when it's valid. If you use v0.24, you need to hack the date. My impression is v0.51 also needs it but I'm not certain. This can be done either by changing the system date or install Xposed with per-app-hack. This is covered in the linked post.
DD is an alternative. It's a command line. If you are comfortable with it, you don't need FF for backup.
bibikalka said:
Sorry, it was a bit confusing! You should be using this file (it's linked to in the XDA post):
http://rootjunkysdl.com/files/Amazon Fire 5th gen/SuperTool/AmazonFire5thGenSuperTool.zip
Once you unpack, you can start the bat script (under windows), and then it'll have option 2 which will install all Play Store components.
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Sorry, one more question for you. If we use the FF v0.51 you provided, do we still need date hack? If not, will it work without Xposed?
Thanks
Is there any guide like this for the 8th Gen(2018) or does this apply?
Just wanted to ask again if there is a definative way to get rid of the bottom nav bar? Really hate that black bar that takes away a portion of the screen, would be really nice if there was a way that it could be made trasparent, and works with the fire 10.1 (2017) model. Also want to keep everything stock.
fleebleflam said:
I have just purchased a fire HD 10, i am also wanting to root, and install gplay but haven't rooted for a while, i have actually asked Amazon for a return label as i was extremely dissapointed with the poxy adds for the screensaver/lockscreen! I wish Amazon would word things correctly! "With offers" = With ADDS!!! "Without offers" = "Without ADDS"
Other than paying Amazon £10! is there a way to remove them?? Very curious to find out.
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You can call Amazon, or start a web chat with them, and tell them this device is a gift for young child, and some of those ads shows on lock screen are not appropriate for kids. then they will remove all the lock screen ads for you. you also can go to your amazon account to unsbscribe those offers, it will cost you some money. or, you can find in here some guide to help you remove the ads in lock screen. good luck, mate!
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You can call Amazon, or start a web chat with them, and tell them this device is a gift for young child, and some of those ads shows on lock screen are not appropriate for kids. then they will remove all the lock screen ads for you. you also can go to your amazon account to unsbscribe those offers, it will cost you some money. or, you can find in here some guide to help you remove the ads in lock screen. good luck, mate!
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I have been very fortunate to get the adds removed by Amazon, a manager gave me a courtesy call and said they would remove them for me for free!
So that's the adds sorted, i'm more concerned about the bottom nav bar its so frustrating just being there permanently! It's now a 9.7" tablet not a 10.1"!!
Is there a way to make it transparent, or to maybe swipe up from the bottom when you need it?
Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.?
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Is there any guide like this for the 8th Gen(2018) or does this apply?
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If I search on Amazon, only the 2017 7th gen Fire HD 10 will show up. Where do you see the 8th Gen 2018?
There is no 8th gen 10.1" tablet. Amazon presently, only sell the 2017 10.1" model that is the latest one. I just purchased one last week, and i also thought there was a 2018 10.1" model. But there isn't until Amazon release another one.
The latest 2018 model is only the 8" model.
I have completed the setup of the tablet and updated the first post.
Hello. I have been an Android user since 2012, and am new to the XDA-Developers forum.
I am technically inclined to a point, but I am by no means in the Developer category. I have successfully rooted one phone, but that was running Android 5.0 and the process seemed to be A LOT simpler than that which is required for today's more sophisticated operating systems.
I come here tonight seeking assistance with an unlocked Samsung SM-J337A running Android 8.0. I purchased this phone online and not from a carrier. Specifically, I am seeking to gain write permission access to the SD card for all third-party apps. None of the automatic call recording apps available in the Play Store function properly without this permission, and in my work I require a phone running Android 7.0 at minimum. Additionally, I am seeking to install a system-wide ad blocker which doesn't necessitate using a battery-draining VPN.
Here are the stats from this phone:
Baseband: J337AUCU3ARJ1
Kernel: 3.18.14-13465503-QB20325568
Build: R16NW.J337AUCU3ARJ1
Knox: 3.1, API level 25, TIMA 4.0.0
Security: ASKS v1.4 Release 180123; FIPS BoringSSL v1.2; SMR Sep-2018 Release 1
I need to know if what I am seeking to do with this phone is possible. Otherwise, I will have to obtain an Android 7.0 or 8.0 phone with which I can successfully gain these permissions or outright root to accomplish same.
So far, all I have been able to do is access Developer Options. From there, I cannot even determine if this device has an unlocked bootloader as there is no "OEM Unlock" option or anything remotely similar under that menu option.
Please assist me with suggestions on how best to proceed. Thank you.
IPaidIOwn said:
Hello. I have been an Android user since 2012, and am new to the XDA-Developers forum.
I am technically inclined to a point, but I am by no means in the Developer category. I have successfully rooted one phone, but that was running Android 5.0 and the process seemed to be A LOT simpler than that which is required for today's more sophisticated operating systems.
I come here tonight seeking assistance with an unlocked Samsung SM-J337A running Android 8.0. I purchased this phone online and not from a carrier. Specifically, I am seeking to gain write permission access to the SD card for all third-party apps. None of the automatic call recording apps available in the Play Store function properly without this permission, and in my work I require a phone running Android 7.0 at minimum. Additionally, I am seeking to install a system-wide ad blocker which doesn't necessitate using a battery-draining VPN.
Here are the stats from this phone:
Baseband: J337AUCU3ARJ1
Kernel: 3.18.14-13465503-QB20325568
Build: R16NW.J337AUCU3ARJ1
Knox: 3.1, API level 25, TIMA 4.0.0
Security: ASKS v1.4 Release 180123; FIPS BoringSSL v1.2; SMR Sep-2018 Release 1
I need to know if what I am seeking to do with this phone is possible. Otherwise, I will have to obtain an Android 7.0 or 8.0 phone with which I can successfully gain these permissions or outright root to accomplish same.
So far, all I have been able to do is access Developer Options. From there, I cannot even determine if this device has an unlocked bootloader as there is no "OEM Unlock" option or anything remotely similar under that menu option.
Please assist me with suggestions on how best to proceed. Thank you.
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I assume you are looking for a way to root, so I'd like to share some things with you. I have looked at this phone too, and found it has some very odd booting. There is no fastboot. Instead you have to make due with Download Mode. Power + Home + Volume up (or down) on boot will bring you to download mode. If it brings you to recovery, try the other volume button. Choosing download mode from recovery is only for recovering the current installation. (I think) Once in download mode, you will see some info in the top left corner. In order to unlock the flashing of ROMS (This is required for rooting with Magisk) you need to disable FRP. AKA, sign out of your google account on your phone. You should thus be able to install custom ROMs. In order for Magisk to work, you need a copy of your current firmware. I found some sights with downloads, but they were either untrustworthy, paid for, or the ROM was nonexistent. After searching online, I found another, official, and free way that you can get the official firmware for Samsung devices through Samsung's Smart Switch application. The only problem is that the program will only download the ROM if you have an available update on your sm-j337a. I'm up to date with the first android pie update on my sm-j337a. If you've held off patching, I would:
Install smart switch both mobile and PC.
Set preferences to preload ROMs in PC version (download first, then choose install)
Copy the ROM from user 》 documents》 Samsung
If this works, please share the ROM. My phone is too updated to test it.
You can then use the Magisk guide for rooting.
I'm about to buy an old tablet - probably a kindle fire of some sort but I'm not sure yet. I was told by a store worker at a gadget shop that old tablets have some kind of "update block" meaning they can't be updated anymore or something. I don't remember the details but he seemed to be saying you can't download newer apps on the old devices or something. I can go back and ask for more details but I am just hoping that someone here knows what I am talking about and can fill me in on what I need to know before buying an old tablet?
I have hacked devices before (e.g. my sony psp way back or my ps3) and don't really mind rooting/jailbreaking a device, as long as it isn't too time-consuming. I basically just want an android tablet that can run new and old apps etc. Nothing fancy. Just a basic device for apps that I might need from time to time as well as using it while on the go for internet etc.
Each app gets compiled to be run on specific Android versions.: It's the app developer who defines the minimum and the maximum Android version his app can run on. So it's obvious not all apps are backwards-compatible.
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Each app gets compiled to be run on specific Android versions.: It's the app developer who defines the minimum and the maximum Android version his app can run on. So it's obvious not all apps are backwards-compatible.
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I did not know that, very interesting. So what is the "update block" or whatever it is that the store person was telling me about and how does one overcome it? I know old androids only update "firmware" to a certain point, right? What happens after that? How do I run apps that are compiled to run on newer versions?
Thanks
Don't know what the store person had in mind. True is that an update is a patch for an existing Android version - what gets rolled out by OEM / carrier if they deem it necessary - whereas an upgrade is a complete replacement of an existing Android version by a higher version ( e.g. Android 4 -> Android 5 ) - what is never rolled out by OEM / carrier.
What you need is an upgrade. Because OEM / carrier certainly don't offer one you have to install a Custom ROM that matches the old tablet's hardware specs, what in turn requires you before install a Custom Recovery that is suitable to the tablet.
jwoegerbauer said:
Don't know what the store person had in mind. True is that an update is a patch for an existing Android version - what gets rolled out by OEM / carrier if they deem it necessary - whereas an upgrade is a complete replacement of an existing Android version by a higher version ( e.g. Android 4 -> Android 5 ) - what is never rolled out by OEM / carrier.
What you need is an upgrade. Because OEM / carrier certainly don't offer one you have to install a Custom ROM that matches the old tablet's hardware specs, what in turn requires you before install a Custom Recovery that is suitable to the tablet.
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Right, so if I've done my (light) research correctly it would go something like this for a kindle fire HD, right? :
1. Root
2. Install android somehow
3. Upgrade the android to latest version
This is after very quick research I did on transforming a kindle fire HD to an android tablet so apologies if it doesn't make sense.
Assuming it does though, is root really necessary or can one go directly from kindle --> android? Also will step 3 already give the latest android version or is an upgrade usually needed (or would it just depend on how you actually do step 2?)
Thanks!
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Right, so if I've done my (light) research correctly it would go something like this for a kindle fire HD, right? :
1. Root
2. Install android somehow
3. Upgrade the android to latest version
This is after very quick research I did on transforming a kindle fire HD to an android tablet so apologies if it doesn't make sense.
Assuming it does though, is root really necessary or can one go directly from kindle --> android? Also will step 3 already give the latest android version or is an upgrade usually needed (or would it just depend on how you actually do step 2?)
Thanks!
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Which Kindle Fire HD were you looking at?
arkiltk said:
Right, so if I've done my (light) research correctly it would go something like this for a kindle fire HD, right? :
1. Root
2. Install android somehow
3. Upgrade the android to latest version
This is after very quick research I did on transforming a kindle fire HD to an android tablet so apologies if it doesn't make sense.
Assuming it does though, is root really necessary or can one go directly from kindle --> android? Also will step 3 already give the latest android version or is an upgrade usually needed (or would it just depend on how you actually do step 2?)
Thanks!
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It's NOT needed to root Android.
To flash a Custom Recovery like TWRP it's only needed that device's bootloader got unlocked before.
Look inside here:
How to Install TWRP Recovery on Android without Root - Make Tech Easier
TWRP allows the user to install, backup, and restore firmware on an Android device. Here's how to install TWRP on Android without rooting.
www.maketecheasier.com
EonOfBlack said:
Which Kindle Fire HD were you looking at?
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Not sure yet but it seems like the shop has a lot of variety within my budget from kindle fire HD 2012 to kindle fire 7" 2015 5th gen. It also has a handful of other brands within my budget: google nexus, acer iconia, lenovo smarttab, generic android tablets, etc.
jwoegerbauer said:
It's NOT needed to root Android.
To flash a Custom Recovery like TWRP it's only needed that device's bootloader got unlocked before.
Look inside here:
How to Install TWRP Recovery on Android without Root - Make Tech Easier
TWRP allows the user to install, backup, and restore firmware on an Android device. Here's how to install TWRP on Android without rooting.
www.maketecheasier.com
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Does this work for kindle fire too or just android? If only android is that what you would recommend? The reason I want a kindle fire is because I had one before for a short time and liked it. But a previous generic android tablet I had overheated at the back making it very uncomfortable on the hands. I can send you a list of the options I have at the moment if that would help?
arkiltk said:
Not sure yet but it seems like the shop has a lot of variety within my budget from kindle fire HD 2012 to kindle fire 7" 2015 5th gen. It also has a handful of other brands within my budget: google nexus, acer iconia, lenovo smarttab, generic android tablets, etc.
Does this work for kindle fire too or just android? If only android is that what you would recommend? The reason I want a kindle fire is because I had one before for a short time and liked it. But a previous generic android tablet I had overheated at the back making it very uncomfortable on the hands. I can send you a list of the options I have at the moment if that would help?
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If you're wanting to have the latest updates on your tablet, I'd say pick another device that isn't a Amazon tablet. Other tablets often have better support for custom ROMs and firmware. While you can find custom ROMs and firmware available for Kindle Fire tablets, they are often outdated and abandoned. You can flash TWRP onto a Kindle Fire, but most of that time that will only give you the ability to root it.