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I have a purchase question

So I've been meaning to trade in my ZenFone 2 ze551ml for a while now after I heard its not getting nougat and that the one marshmallow update is all ZenFone 2 is getting due to Intel limitations
So well I wanted to get a new phone and I have a budget of 20,000 rupees
I have a few requirements that I need apart from that everything additional is just a cherry on top
1. Decently fast and optimised with minimal bloatware
2. 4gb ram minimum
3. Something that may be update at least 2 years down the line... I used to be well informed about these things after I got my zenfone 2 and heard its disappointing update schedule but right now I'm kind of busy with studies and have lost track of it
4. A nice display with sunlight legibility
5. Fast charging and over 3000 mah battery preferred
6. VOLTE like really badly with dual SIM functionality
Dual volte if there is any or one volte and one LTE will do
6. Fingerprint scanner isn't a must but would be appreciated
7. And also a phone that has a decent xda community for roms and is relatively the easiest to root and unlock as I used to do it a lot on my note 2 but have lost practice in the past 2 years
I short listed a few devices and would like ure opinions about them before I purchase any...
1. Zuk z2 plus (zuk subsidiary as I know has been shut down recently due to Lenovo doing budget cuts)
2. Mi5 the 4 th ram variant isn't available in India so I'm missing out one of the key features there itself
3. Moto g5 plus
4. Nubia z17 mini
5. Or should I wait for the one plus 3 or 3t prices to drop in a month or 2 ( preferably don't want to wait too long but if I must I must)
6. Redmi note 4
7. Decent storage options in the price point.
Thank u for ure replies and I'm sorry to be a bother
Yes I can check all these and previously I have but right now I'm kinda on a time constraint to do the research
Also if u have any suggestions that may be Better than the ones listed please do tell
Also as a bonus if I can find a phone with ois in this price point will be even better

What do you think of the ROG 2 over the ROG phone?

Here is a review of the ROG 2 for the ones who haven't seen it yet:
My thoughts:
I am probably one of the few who have nothing to complain about the ROG except for some small remarks:
1. The only main drawback of the ROG phone was its Camera and lack of developer support.
2. The lack of frequent updates which I can live with because lets face it Android Pie doesn't add much to Oreo. Our phone is rich with features that even the latest phones with the latest update lack to this day.
My view of the ROG 2:
To be honest I am kind of disappointed, the phone is a beast and if you don't own the ROG phone already it would be highly recommended to upgrade to if you don't care that much for photography. But to be honest if you already own the ROG phone I feel we are not missing much except maybe for the higher refresh rate and battery life.
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The base model(8GB Ram, 128GB Storage) is selling for 3499 RMB (~508 USD), totally worth the upgrade especially if you swap it with the old model.

Obviously a great phone with ridiculous specs, especially the battery. But it's just a bit too big for my taste.

Rog 2 is a massive upgrade of a phone. I have read somewhere there are aiming to price the 8gb variant close to Oneplus 7 pro and that is close to 700 dollars. This phone will force all android phone to upgrade their specs very soon. It has got a 120hz Samsung screen when Samsung itself it is stuck at 60hz. It is the 2nd phone with UFS 3.0 along with Oneplus 7 pro again made by Samsung and it has got the same great camera as 6z, therefore, will force other gaming phones to take photography seriously.

I jut purchased the 512gb ROG Original to replace my Samsung s10 5G which i hated other than the camera. I have had the Razer Phone 2 also but boxy design made my hands hurt, I like the ROG 2 and will probably get it if it get a global variant in Australia.

Price announced for China
As reported by Gadgets 360, starting from the base variant named ‘Tencent Depth Customisation’ with 8 GB RAM and 128 GB storage, it’s priced at CNY 3,499 (approximately Rs 35,000). The next variant carrying the same configuration called ‘Enjoy Peace in Beijing’ has a price tag of CNY 3,699 (approximately Rs 37,100). Coming to the bigger specced variant that includes 12 GB RAM and 128 GB storage, it’s priced at CNY 5,999 (approximately Rs 60,100). This configuration is also available in the ‘Enjoy Peace in Beijing’ variant priced at CNY 6,199 (approximately Rs 62,100).
Two additional variants were also announced including a Zhizun version priced at CNY 7,999 (approximately Rs 80,200) and an Esports Armour version that goes all the way up to CNY 12,999 (approximately Rs 1,30,300). Although there were no details about the RAM and storage, we think the two variants could be packing 12 GB RAM and 512 GB storage.

Just checked the ASUS store; the base model with 8 GB ram and 128 GB storage is selling for 3499 RMB and I guess they are offering a small discount if you are one of the early birds. Still it's not open for purchase yet, you will have to wait until the 30th of July to pre-order.
I think I will be pre ordering it for that price nothing can beat it with such pricing, i will either swap the ROG phone for the ROG 2 base model or sell it later on in the market.
Here is an in depth look into Android Pie on the ROG 2, I would assume the ROG phone will be running the same software customizations.

i don't get the 6000mah and the resulting weight.
for me, a phone is a phone first, so it should be pocketable
the first ROG Phone was all about modules, so why not keep the phone as light as the first one and add a battery pack module
something like the battery pack module for the Motorola phones
the size and weight made me decide for a different phone (P30 Pro)

The base model unboxing:

I ordered older first gen as I'll wait and see what global release is like first and rom update support etc. In AUS it will be in the $1400+ aud range. Rog one 900 atm. Moving from my razer phone 2 as box design hard on hands
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DanXbix said:
I ordered older first gen as I'll wait and see what global release is like first and rom update support etc. In AUS it will be in the $1400+ aud range. Rog one 900 atm. Moving from my razer phone 2 as box design hard on hands
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Just know there isn't much developer support for the ROG probably because of it's price and marketing.
That's why I believe the ROG 2 will have more attention and support than the first generation mainly because of value to money especially the base model.
I have both devices initially I was thinking of selling the ROG phone but I love both so for now I am keeping it. The ROG 2 has smaller bezels which I love, the underscreen fingerprint of the ROG 2 to be honest not that great I am using face lock which is way faster. In terms of speakers I think both of them give the same experience, the ROG 2 slightly has more defined vocals you can hardly tell. The thing I love about the first generation is the size of the phone my God it's very comfortable to hold in comparison. Overall I think it's the best time to buy the first generation but I would rather buy the second generation because it has up to date technology which will last more. All in all both devices are great. Oh one more thing ROG 2 is a better choice to go with because of the Camera. The downfall of Gaming phones is the camera and since the ROG 2 is the latest and greatest gaming phone it's better to go with it. Good luck!

Rashad83 said:
Just know there isn't much developer support for the ROG probably because of it's price and marketing.
That's why I believe the ROG 2 will have more attention and support than the first generation mainly because of value to money especially the base model.
I have both devices initially I was thinking of selling the ROG phone but I love both so for now I am keeping it. The ROG 2 has smaller bezels which I love, the underscreen fingerprint of the ROG 2 to be honest not that great I am using face lock which is way faster. In terms of speakers I think both of them give the same experience, the ROG 2 slightly has more defined vocals you can hardly tell. The thing I love about the first generation is the size of the phone my God it's very comfortable to hold in comparison. Overall I think it's the best time to buy the first generation but I would rather buy the second generation because it has up to date technology which will last more. All in all both devices are great. Oh one more thing ROG 2 is a better choice to go with because of the Camera. The downfall of Gaming phones is the camera and since the ROG 2 is the latest and greatest gaming phone it's better to go with it. Good luck!
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Its looks like it will be arround $1600 for 512gb model here in AUS so ill wait not spending that much on a phone.. i dont game just like features and specs ROG 1 more then enough for me.

Wonder if ASUS do same as did with first ROG. They just throw away some minor updates and just leave it after half year because ROG 3

The lack of SD card support is a downgrade. Yea it has faster specs other than that but no improvements on network support. How are they releasing a phone this expensive with virtually no bands when compared to their competitors. Look all all the other top of the lines phones and even mid range and it is hard to find ones with such terrible network support.

B66 (1700/2100)
B71 (600)
Missing from the phone, which may impact T-Mobile coverage. Darn.

I love the ROG one the size is Perfect but will upgrade to RoG 2 when globally released

DanXbix said:
I love the ROG one the size is Perfect but will upgrade to RoG 2 when globally released
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I have ROG V1 when all i want it the update PIE then i'm okay with it. because i dont have money anymore to buy ROG 2 :laugh::laugh::laugh:

ryu091 said:
I have ROG V1 when all i want it the update PIE then i'm okay with it. because i dont have money anymore to buy ROG 2 :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Believe me Android Pie sucks. I have the ROG 2 and The ROG Oreo Rom is way better than the Pie Rom. Pie doesn't add any extra functionality.

Rashad83 said:
Believe me Android Pie sucks. I have the ROG 2 and The ROG Oreo Rom is way better than the Pie Rom. Pie doesn't add any extra functionality.
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no worries as long as they fixed some problems and update the security patched..

Hi I got the ROG 1, Asus its update policy sucks !!!!!! No or poor answers in their Zen Forum.
At this time nobody is talking anymore about Android Pie but Android 10 !!!!!!!!
Believe me I'll never get the 9 or 10 on my so called flagship.
They will do the same with ROG 2
https://piunikaweb.com/2019/09/24/asus-rog-phone-android-pie-release-date-unknown-says-company/
https://www.asus.com/zentalk/forum....23&pid=1165051&page=9&extra=page=1#pid1165051

It may suck but, atleast for me that is not the point. It should not been updated by now. If they they can't even get pie on first ROG then how can we expect to get the better Android 10.

Pls give your opinions

1. I have recently bought remi note 7 pro(6gb and64gb) but I am over thinking that I should have bought Vivo u20 at 11000 rs .
2. Am I right or I am over thinking.
3. I have to use the phone for at least 4 years Or
4 .should i have bought another phone that I have not thought about.

Android Creator said:
1. I have recently bought remi note 7 pro(6gb and64gb) but I am over thinking that I should have bought Vivo u20 at 11000 rs .
2. Am I right or I am over thinking.
3. I have to use the phone for at least 4 years Or
4 .should i have bought another phone that I have not thought about.
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1. In comparison between the Note 7 Ro and Vivo U20, RN7 Pro has a clean win.
Here are some cons of the U20:
i) Lack of USB Type C port
ii) Plastic Backside (RN7 Pro has Gorilla Glass 5)
iii) Lack of 48MP sensor
iv) Lack of community support (You can never get as much community support as a RN7 Pro)
And all this at a price difference of ₹1000 ($14)?
2. Well, even now the phone's on the road to being outdated by its own successors within 6-8 months. This would occur to every device you buy, unless it's a high end flagship. At this range even the Note 8 Pro gives you better specs. The hardware is quite good tho, even though it might become out-dated, it's capable of running almost any task... The community support is amazing as well. Check out the ROM section and you'd be surprised to find the vast number of ROM's available.

Oneplus Nord compared to Oneplus 7t?

I am in the market for an upgrade for my 3 year old Oneplus 3T. And while I love my current device the constant usage and drops has meant the phone has taken damage. More than a month ago the power button broke and I couldn't operate the phone. That time the only available Oneplus model was Oneplus 7T so decided to go for it. But during my researching I came to know about Oneplus 8 and the pending release of Nord. And as I waited for the release of these phones Oneplus 7T has started disappearing. Now with OnePlus nord finally into the hands of people who are using it as a daily driver, I am wondering how does it compare to the last year flagship? (the missing 5G notwithstanding. And I think 5G is going to take ~3 yrs in India which might be the time to change my phone again).

vicky_ag said:
I am in the market for an upgrade for my 3 year old Oneplus 3T. And while I love my current device the constant usage and drops has meant the phone has taken damage. More than a month ago the power button broke and I couldn't operate the phone. That time the only available Oneplus model was Oneplus 7T so decided to go for it. But during my researching I came to know about Oneplus 8 and the pending release of Nord. And as I waited for the release of these phones Oneplus 7T has started disappearing. Now with OnePlus nord finally into the hands of people who are using it as a daily driver, I am wondering how does it compare to the last year flagship? (the missing 5G notwithstanding. And I think 5G is going to take ~3 yrs in India which might be the time to change my phone again).
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I think the mid-end procesor is best for performance/power cosumption and heat generator. You don't need more benchmark power to daily use. No freezes, no sharpness. Best battery performance with one plus 8 screen like. Imho nord is better than even one plus 8 and better than one plus 8 pro if u prefere not so big (6.8 inch.) phones. They need to workaround software little more. This is just new phone so they will

Nord:
- better battery (SOT)
- 5G
- newer phone
- dev support probably better here on xda, not sure.
7T:
- more power (CPU/GPU)
- better camera setup (main sensor is same)
- stereo sound
I have both phones and the performance is great on both!
If you wanna play games on ultra graphics blabla, you will notice the 7T runs much better. But for daily non gaming usage the Nord is more than enough. It's up to you.

Thank you guys for the inputs. I am going ahead with Oneplus Nord.

I'm at the point where i want to switch from my OP7T Pro to the Nord.
765 is more then good enough, 8 series cpu isn't necessary for most people.
Main cam is the same.. the only thing i would probably miss are the stereo speakers.
I would prefer the Nord because off it's smaller size, it's not as heavy, no edge screen, better battery consumption and dual front cam which i like for taking family selfies.
And i think and hope that because of it's price the custom rom community will be very active.

Question Are you interested in switching to a Google Pixel 7 Pro?

Are you willing to spend as much or a little more on the new Google Pixel 7 Pro, which seems to be a best of smartphone?
If you want to know more about the Google Pixel 7 serie, go to read HERE

If it uses the same modem as the 6 Pro, absolutely not.

TonikJDK said:
If it uses the same modem as the 6 Pro, absolutely not.
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It is rumored to use the Exynos 5300 modem. I have no idea if its gonna be any good.
Ref: https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-7-3112003/

TonikJDK said:
If it uses the same modem as the 6 Pro, absolutely not.
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Stickmanx89 said:
It is rumored to use the Exynos 5300 modem. I have no idea if its gonna be any good.
Ref: https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-7-3112003/
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It turns out that the Pixel 6 Pro uses the Shannon A5123 5G modem made by Samsung, the Shannon 5511 sub-6GHz FR1 transceiver box, and the Shannon 5710 FR2 mmWave transceiver. The latter is missing from the non-US versions of the Pixel 6 Pro.
Subject to confirmation, the Pixel 7 Pro is said to use Samsung's Exynos 5300 modem
We'll just have to wait and see what modem Google uses for the 7 series and the 7 Pro in particular

TonikJDK said:
If it uses the same modem as the 6 Pro, absolutely not.
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From what I've heard, it will have a new modem. That's why I nearly surely will get the 7 Pro.

I am interested, my op10 pro goes back to amazon and I'll use OP7 pro.

spevil07 said:
I am interested, my op10 pro goes back to amazon and I'll use OP7 pro.
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That bad ?
I wonder how long before the other brand offer similarly fast charging

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That bad ?
I wonder how long before the other brand offer similarly fast charging
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There are no sources so no Kernel/Rom, lenses are blocked so no gcam, and there is no msm download tool anymore,
Soo OP 10 pro is trash.

I want to like the P7P, I want to get one, but the more I look at it, the more I lean towards jumping ship for Samsung or most likely Apple. It would be my first apple mobile device, but aside from the eSIM all seems well.
The P6 is dreaded, and it took them way too long to offer software fixes.
I'm worried about the modem and don't understand why they're not going with Qualcomm.
It doesn't look like we'll be getting much in terms of camera improvement.
The battery will most likely be similar to the P6.
To answer your question plainly, I don't think there is any price point that justifies the risk of another failed device. I plan on waiting for the reviews. If the modem ain't stellar, it will be an automatic no from me because of my remote usage. If the modem works as well as the competition, then I'll have a hard time choosing.

Not interested at this time, but will be watching hand's on reports and reviews....

After hearing that it still has A55 cores, it's a no for me. I have not decided if I'm sticking with my OnePlus 9 or switching back to iPhone (I was on the 12 Pro Max for the last two weeks but the OOS13 beta dropped on the OnePlus 9 today and I kind of like it so I'm back on the OnePlus for now) but most relevant to this thread, I'm *not* going back to Pixel.

I'm writing this from a pixel 2 XL. Was previously using a One Plus 9 Pro. Had to switch back after the hyped up Hasselblad camera stopped focusing. In hindsight, it was a mistake to go with the one plus brand. My old pixel 2 it's working much better, and I will certainly be getting the 7 Pro

Will depend on modem. The modem on Pixel 6 Pro is absolute dog**** worst I have used.
But I will be getting rid of the Pixel 6 Pro, this is by far the worst phone I have ever used.

I am very happy with the 6 pro, but I like the look of the new minimal curve on the 7 pro. if there is also a higher peak brightness i'll be tempted, depending on trade in deals.

I did not plan on buying the P7 Pro, but since it does bring in a couple serious improvements, I made my pre-order today
- finally we get decent 10 bit HDR recording
- Faceunlock (as far as the presentation went, it's only for unlocking the phone and will not work as a biometric in-app or to make a payment)
- finally a decent peak brightness to work in the sun (1500 nits)
- 20 vs 30 res zoom with new nifty features
- macro mode (missed that since my ancient Samsung Galaxy alpha days), guided frame also looks promising for making videos
- better modem (this one needs reviews of course to validate any improvements; the P6 Pro modem is terrible)
- Tensor 2 should bring, if we look at the node and Googles claims, a 20% improvement in efficiency = better battery life
- and last but not least, the deciding factor that made me get the P7 Pro... European Google store offer the Pixel Watch LTE, valued at 429 €, for free when pre-ordering the 899 € P7 Pro. If I couple that with Rakuten and a Google Store cashback of 10% (Google One, 2 TB), sell the watch and my old phone, I get a new shiny phone and will actually have more money than I started out with. That's great of course.

In July, I had planned to buy the Nothing Phone(1) which looked interesting, and which is despite its setbacks the 1st smartphone produced by Nothing. Then, for personal reasons, I didn't buy it, and I turned to the Pixel 7 series that was supposed to arrive.
Very tempted by the 7Pro in 256GB, I hesitated for a long time and changed my mind again.
Looking at the specs, even if Google has improved this 7 series, I'll try to wait for the 8 series, which should arrive with a new processor and finally a non-curved screen and maybe a significantly reduced size for the 8Pro 256GB.
I'm staying with my OP 7T 256GB which I'll soon upgrade to custom rom, as OnePlus is not in a hurry to upgrade it to OOS12.
I wish you good time for the owners Pixel 7 serie

Sib64 said:
"and finally a non-curved screen"
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I'm not sure if that hope of yours will result in reality. Google has made it clear that they are all about design and how it looks, and less about function. Just listen to the people presenting Pixel products, look at the Pixel watch (little screen real estate (square smartwatches have great advantage) and continental sized bezels are okay, as long as it looks good): the aesthetic is of greater importance to Google than practicality.
There is simply nothing to indicate that Google would steer away from that path. They consider a curved display to look nice.
Ergo I highly doubt that Google would dramatically change that business strategy for the next iteration of this phone. People like you and me, who would enjoy an even panel more, are simply not in the targeting group of Googles marketing.

The Pixel 7 Pro is almost perfect but the Pixel 6 has the worst connectivity and reception of any phone I've used, even behind the Galaxy devices.
No reviews means it would be just great on paper.

it's time to retire my oneplus 7 pro and get pixel 7 pro

I really wish google would get into the charging game like the oneplus 10 plus... That thing charges from 20% to 80% in 10 minutes