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I bought the american version of the Nexus 5 even though I am on the middle east (for price reasons). Since the snapdragon 800 chip support all LTE bands techniclly speaking, could I activate certain ones to work for me through firmware or modem modification?
Not at the moment,
There are people who believe that it will never be possible due to RF hardware differences between EU and US models.
There are people who believe that a modem firmware hack might unlock some LTE bands in the future.
Well I was hoping for a onesided, positive reply, but I guess you are right, we will wait and see.
What was the case on other Snapdragon 800 phones, were they able to activate it?
I'm only aware of few cases where some RF Bands could be activated/deactivated via an engineering menu.
I have never heard of a case when someone successfully hacked modem firmware and added new RF Bands.
Does anybody succeed trying this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...ad-progress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269 ?
Should work for any Qualcomm based device like Nexus 5.
Thanks for any feedback.
michelD said:
Does anybody succeed trying this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...ad-progress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269 ?
Should work for any Qualcomm based device like Nexus 5.
Thanks for any feedback.
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No the program is banned. Besides we already have most the LTE bands on 2 versions. If they could fit them all on they would have done. Maximum 7 LTE bands
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What do you mean by "the program is banned"??
Yes indeed there are 2 versions, but I purched my nexus 5 when I was in US and I am now in Europe!
So you can easily understand my interest for this topic...
michelD said:
What do you mean by "the program is banned"??
Yes indeed there are 2 versions, but I purched my nexus 5 when I was in US and I am now in Europe!
So you can easily understand my interest for this topic...
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1) never said there wasn't reason for your interest
2) it isn't possible to add European bands to US version. If it was, there would be no need for US version. Limitation on nexus 5 is physical. Maximum 7 bands.
3) the link you provided is for a program that is banned on XDA. You van tell that by reading the thread
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Add 3G and LTE bands to your phone
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fffft said:
Interesting. Can you elaborate on why there might be a "physical" limitation of 7 bands on the Nexus 5? That would be an unusual finding in a recent handset. It's certainly not the case with most current phones e.g. I've enabled dozens of additional bands on my Samsung S5 and others have done the same on various HTC, Sony, LG, etc phones.
If you have any details or a source, that would be appreciated.
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Its a limitation of the WTR1605L ref receiver. 7 bands. Actually this was the first (making the msm8974 the first) to be able to do 7. 5 was the previous Max, hence why there used to be a million versions of Samsung galaxy devices
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6541/the-state-of-qualcomms-modems-wtr1605-and-mdm9x25/2
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fffft said:
Thank you for the informative reply. You are right of course and I see now where the confusion is arising as well. As you said, the previous max was five bands as in a pentaband phone. And the WTR1605L now supports 7 bands as in a heptband phone. Three bands below 1 Ghz, three bands above and one band at 2.5 Ghz. Bands meaning spectrum frequency segments e.g. 700/800/900/1700/1800/2100/2600 Mhz.
The confusion and this is ironic as well is that 3GPP, the organization who defines the GSM standard also uses the term band to refer to something confusingly different i.e. intra-band segments. And that usage while seemingly ill advised has become ubiquitous. So a band without a context can refer to the contigous 800 Mhz segement. Or half a dozen subsets of it, each of those subsets also being an officially designated 3GPP "band" as well.
When you look at the specs for a given phone, the term bands is often used in the latter sense. For example, the S5 uses the same WTR1605L chip and is obstensibly a 7 band phone as well. And it is indeed limited to 7 "major" bands for lack of a better description. But the specs appear to show the S5 as supporting 16 "bands" i.e. eight LTE "bands", four 3G "bands" and four 2G "bands". And our NV edits can enable dozens more "bands" in the way that carriers refer to them.
Anyway, suffice it to say that rootSU is absolutely correct that the hardware is limited to seven "bands". And at the same time, we can still add dozens of discrete "bands" in the sense that the carriers use the term. Yeah it is confusing.
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Yes you can see on the box of the D820, what would appear to be 9 bands, but they all fall within the 7
However, since we have no solid documentation, we cannot still add dozens or even 1 carrier used-term. Its closed source.
Edit > but there is no real benefit to having a d820 and a d821 if they could get everything on the same die.
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Hello,
OnePlus annonces that the One will NOT be able to connect on 4G LTE 800 MHz Network.
But the Snapdragon 801 can operate it (example on HTC One M8 or Samsung S5).
There is a solution to open this restriction with a software or a custom ROM ???
Sorry for bad english
Thanks,
Profil.
profil said:
Hello,
OnePlus annonces that the One will NOT be able to connect on 4G LTE 800 MHz Network.
But the Snapdragon 801 can operate it (example on HTC One M8 or Samsung S5).
There is a solution to open this restriction with a software or a custom ROM ???
Sorry for bad english
Thanks,
Profil.
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Yes, I have the same question. If it have been possible with the Nexus 4 why not with the OnePlus One ?
Is there a developer planning to work on that please ?
Thanks in advance
The problem is not whether the processor can support it. It needs an antenna and signal booster for the spectrum. Oneplus put all the frequencies they could without blowing the budget. It most likely won't be able to be added with just software tweaks.
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For those who understand chinese: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/jumping-from-coloros-to-cm11s.36408/page-4
Someone said that will enable 15 LTE bands?
Galaxy Note SM-P605
Xperia33 said:
Yes, I have the same question. If it have been possible with the Nexus 4 why not with the OnePlus One ?
Is there a developer planning to work on that please ?
Thanks in advance
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Radios are hardware, not software. On the Nexus 4, the phone itself physically has a band 4 LTE radio, but it's not enabled in the software, but with software hacks, you can enable it. If the phone doesn't physically support specific bands with the hardware, no software or hack can change that, any more than software can turn your 720p screen into a 1080p, or turn 8gm storage into 16gb.
Someone have some solutions about this thread ???
Is it possible or not ?
If a developer read this, an answer could be great
Thanks
Planterz said:
Radios are hardware, not software. On the Nexus 4, the phone itself physically has a band 4 LTE radio, but it's not enabled in the software, but with software hacks, you can enable it. If the phone doesn't physically support specific bands with the hardware, no software or hack can change that, any more than software can turn your 720p screen into a 1080p, or turn 8gm storage into 16gb.
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Huh? The radio (or baseband) is firmware, it's updated just like any other software/firmware component of a device.
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timmaaa said:
Huh? The radio (or baseband) is firmware, it's updated just like any other software/firmware component of a device.
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The radio has firmware, yes, but the radio is still a physical component, and that physical component doesn't support band 800MHz. No software or firmware or whatever you want to call it can enable something that doesn't exist.
Planterz said:
The radio has firmware, yes, but the radio is still a physical component, and that physical component doesn't support band 800MHz. No software or firmware or whatever you want to call it can enable something that doesn't exist.
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I'm not denying the fact that you can't change hardware limitations. I was referring solely to the incorrect statement that the radio is hardware and not firmware.
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I I was referring solely to the incorrect statement that the radio is hardware and not firmware.
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The word radio refers either to the equipment transmitting and/or receiving an electromagnetic signal, or the signal itself. Referring to the firmware/software of such equipment as "radio" is a misuse of the word.
This argument is pointless.
Planterz said:
The word radio refers either to the equipment transmitting and/or receiving an electromagnetic signal, or the signal itself. Referring to the firmware/software of such equipment as "radio" is a misuse of the word.
This argument is pointless.
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You're right, this argument is pointless.
http://www.talkandroid.com/guides/beginner/android-rom-and-rooting-dictionary-for-beginners/
http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/70/what-is-radio-firmware
http://androinica.com/2009/09/how-to-understand-android-root-terms-and-procedures/
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Flashing radio firmware and flashing a radio are different things. Last time I flashed radio firmware, I enabled the band 4 LTE modem on my Nexus 4. But the last time I flashed a radio, I was standing naked in front of my Sony Boombox.
Semantics. The term radio is common in the XDA vernacular just like there are shortened terms in everyday life.
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Regarding the chip used for radio transmission the non-chinese version is supposed to have this chip:
Skyworks 77629-21 -.- Can`t post link, please google it for specs...
i.imgur.com/RoHwknl.jpg
It states: LTE supports output power bandwidth bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8
(and sub-bands 9, 10, 18, 19, 20, 26)
So, if this is true, is it still a hardware problem or could this be a software problem?
Cheers
Christian
Mestapholes said:
Regarding the chip used for radio transmission the non-chinese version is supposed to have this chip:
Skyworks 77629-21 -.- Can`t post link, please google it for specs...
i.imgur.com/RoHwknl.jpg
It states: LTE supports output power bandwidth bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8
(and sub-bands 9, 10, 18, 19, 20, 26)
So, if this is true, is it still a hardware problem or could this be a software problem?
Cheers
Christian
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Any devs around...I think we need this, there are lots of stations popping up with 800MHz because it's cheap...at least here in Finland.
It is the same problem in France where the 800 Mhz is very used.
If somebody have a solution please, share it ! :fingers-crossed:
Its the same problem here in Sweden to. Telia is using LTE 800 and 2600.
800 for the mostpart of the whole country and 2600 that is supported by the 1+1 is only used in the bygger cities like Stockholm and göteborg etc.
Cant really say i like oneplus decision on not using the 800 as it seems to be used alot.
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800mhz lte (max. 50Mbit/s)has almost no speed improvement over hspa+(42Mbit/s)
It's no big deal, at least for me.
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800mhz lte (max. 50Mbit/s)has almost no speed improvement over hspa+(42Mbit/s)
It's no big deal, at least for me.
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Of that i am aware, but the LTE 800 has a wider reception spectrum with stronger signal, if HSPA+ are to reach top speed it will require a full connection to the Antenna, whereas the LTE would have a improved reception quality as it has a stronger output signal than the HSPA+.
A full HSPA+ connection cant be met in the Swedish countryside.
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Of that i am aware, but the LTE 800 has a wider reception spectrum with stronger signal, if HSPA+ are to reach top speed it will require a full connection to the Antenna, whereas the LTE would have a improved reception quality as it has a stronger output signal than the HSPA+.
A full HSPA+ connection cant be met in the Swedish countryside.
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I don't know why but for me, I life in Munich - Germany and LTE is throughout lower strength than 3g for me. But maybe that's because the telecom 3g network is perfect in munich.
Guys, just saw on devicespecifications.com that O7 (non pro) has GPS L1 + L5? Is this true? Like 10cm accuracy and working in tunnels, inside buildings.
Anyone?
Positioning
GPS (L1+L5 Dual Band), GLONASS, Galileo (E1+E5a Dual Band), Beidou, SBAS, A-GPS
Source: https://www.oneplus.in/7/specs?from=op7
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Positioning
GPS (L1+L5 Dual Band), GLONASS, Galileo (E1+E5a Dual Band), Beidou, SBAS, A-GPS
Source: https://www.oneplus.in/7/specs?from=op7
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Ok, but does it work well? Because mi 8 have dual frequency, but in real world, brings no beneficts. No 30cm accuracy, etc.
sansanc said:
Ok, but does it work well? Because mi 8 have dual frequency, but in real world, brings no beneficts. No 30cm accuracy, etc.
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Any news/pointers on this? Performance would not only be a matter of the chipset supporting L1/L5 but also of the antenna gain for L1/L5.
This might be as good/better/worse than on the OnePlus 7 Pro.
Is there a publically available track e.g. on https://www.openstreetmap.org/traces?
Can a O7 owner please do a test with GPStest and confirms the accuracy and if it works on tunnels?
Anyone?
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Anyone?
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Yep it works in buildings tunnels , you should be good to go
i test gputest and we can conect to L1,L5, E1,E5a,B1
in this video talk about gps
I am unable to find out any post that guides or has any app too lock specific 4G LTE band on Hi-Silicon Kirin Chipset based phones, I earlier did the same with snapdragon chipset phone with some available apps.
News?
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Does somebody know if the new S22 Ultra supports dual frequency GNSS signals from sats like GPS, Beidou and Glonass?
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Does somebody know if the new S22 Ultra supports dual frequency GNSS signals from sats like GPS, Beidou and Glonass?
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Yes, most new devices support multiple GNSS.
The Exynos 2200 supports GPS, GLONASS, Beidou, and Galileo.
The Snapdragon 8 supports NavIC and QZSS in addition to the above.
The S21 Ultra did so I would expect the S22 to support it too.
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Yes, most new devices support multiple GNSS.
The Exynos 2200 supports GPS, GLONASS, Beidou, and Galileo.
The Snapdragon 8 supports NavIC and QZSS in addition to the above.
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dual frequency is not the same as multiple GNSS !!!
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dual frequency is not the same as multiple GNSS !!!
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"Dual" frequency implies that the device uses two GNSS bands. The truth is, most modern devices support multiple GNSS systems, which do not share the same frequencies.
If you're specifically talking about using dual frequencies for a particular GNSS implementation, such as L1 and L5 bands simultaneously, many manufacturers implemented this 2 years ago.
They wrote "dual frequency", most likely they meant "dual frequency".
As per my experience it was implemented from Exynos 9825 on (e.g. L1, L5, E1, E5a), but the half year older 9820 does not have dual frequency (e.g. only L1, E1).
So I would also agree with Iywyn.
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Does somebody know if the new S22 Ultra supports dual frequency GNSS signals from sats like GPS, Beidou and Glonass?
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On developper settings
@V0latyle I need ask something. Dual GNSS Chip can work in one time with A-GPS and GPS?
Nmc_alves® said:
On developper settings
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Can you confirm that the Exynos is supporting dual frequency GNSS?
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Can you confirm that the Exynos is supporting dual frequency GNSS?
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I think
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I think
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Why do you think so? Do you know what can be switched on there?
I just can say that my S8 also has this option in the dev settings and my S8 does not have dual frequency.
Try use the GPS TEST app and post screenshot here please.
At least here in Brazil where it ships with a Qualcom Snapdragon 888 1st gen, I can attest that the L5 band is not showing up->
For a comparison, here's what GPSTest was reporting on my 3 years old Mi 9->
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At least here in Brazil where it ships with a Qualcom Snapdragon 888 1st gen, I can attest that the L5 band is not showing up
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Oh, I would not have expected a step backwards at Qualcomm.
ZXR said:
Oh, I would not have expected a step backwards at Qualcomm.
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Major downgrade.
S22 Ultra Exynos UK has dual support as detailed in the specs.
lywyn said:
S22 Ultra Exynos UK has dual support as detailed in the specs.
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Good to see DF support of the Exynos, thank you! You might do some anonymization of your picture (Shakespeare location...).
And do you know, why Glonass is not listed?
According to Snapdragon specsheet it's supported...
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon-8-gen-1-mobile-platform
So if you can't get it meant Samsung screwed it.
ramnkc said:
According to Snapdragon specsheet it's supported...
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon-8-gen-1-mobile-platform
So if you can't get it meant Samsung screwed it.
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Yes. That's more likely
Just got my 512GB variant from Verizon. I can confirm dual frequency. I see L5/E5 satellites in GPSTest