Ok,
so when the phone reaches 15% and the message saying that i should activate Battery Saver appears, the performance of the phone goes down and the games are not smooth anymore.
I do not activate Battery Saver, but obviously something happens that limits the CPU speed. Can this be deactivated somehow?
Thanks a lot!
Probably lower voltage on battery, hence lower voltage on CPU/GPU and lower boost clocks.
But still, there must be something applied by the OS as the switch happends instantly at 15%. I' m guessing it' s something we don't have access to.
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Hi,
I have a GSM version of Raphael.
Since day one I've had quite short battery life of the phone - something between 24 to 36 hours (including standby and very moderate use).
In an attempt to find out the reason, I've installed a few programs which monitor the phone's current consumption, battery voltage etc.
Making long story short - all programs indicate that the phone's current consumption is ~56-60mA in standby mode. Thus, 1350mAh battery should last for 1350/60 = 24h.
That far everything makes sense. However, I've looked for methods to reduce the current consumption, either by downclocking the CPU, by turning off all radios, removing all skins and programs running in normal mode etc.
No luck - the current consumption just won't move.
It doesn't make much sense that turning off all radios, turning off the screen, turning off all programs etc. won't reduce the power consumption by even a fraction (depending on the SW/HW metering ability, of course).
Another strange behavior of the battery is that the battery indicator does not change for quite some time, and then drops by 3-4% in a very short time (~1 minute). I've seen this phenomenon in several monitoring programs, regardless of the updating time of the program.
Has anyone figured a way to reduce power consumption in standby mode?
What about downclocking?
Does anyone know what is the current consumption on other longer lasting battery time HTC phones?
Yuval.
disabling 3G normally saves battery.
did you make tests while in 3G or 2G?
I would like my battery to last longer.
FYI- I dont need a monitoring program to tell me that wifi, data, and bluetooth visibility kill my battery...
Battery test conditions
Note that the 56mA current consumption is with all radios closed!! (alternatively only with 2G GSM on - no 3G, no WiFi and no BT).
The point is to reduce the amount of current drawn from the battery in standby mode.
yuvalm said:
Hi,
I have a GSM version of Raphael.
Since day one I've had quite short battery life of the phone - something between 24 to 36 hours (including standby and very moderate use).
In an attempt to find out the reason, I've installed a few programs which monitor the phone's current consumption, battery voltage etc.
Making long story short - all programs indicate that the phone's current consumption is ~56-60mA in standby mode. Thus, 1350mAh battery should last for 1350/60 = 24h.
That far everything makes sense. However, I've looked for methods to reduce the current consumption, either by downclocking the CPU, by turning off all radios, removing all skins and programs running in normal mode etc.
No luck - the current consumption just won't move.
It doesn't make much sense that turning off all radios, turning off the screen, turning off all programs etc. won't reduce the power consumption by even a fraction (depending on the SW/HW metering ability, of course).
Another strange behavior of the battery is that the battery indicator does not change for quite some time, and then drops by 3-4% in a very short time (~1 minute). I've seen this phenomenon in several monitoring programs, regardless of the updating time of the program.
Has anyone figured a way to reduce power consumption in standby mode?
What about downclocking?
Does anyone know what is the current consumption on other longer lasting battery time HTC phones?
Yuval.
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Do you have the nuePower battery driver? I've heard that its not very accurate.
It's weird that you are looking for a way to extend the battery life as it is clearly stated that the battery lasts for about up to 419 minutes of talk time (about 7 hours). So, no matter what you do, that is the maximum. Please note that the 7 hours does not included standby time. Regarding standby mode, no use to play around with it as if you put your device in standby mode, it will last 367 hours. Of course, without even waking it up even for a moment (after a full recharge).
Running battery monitoring program normally makes thing worse as some do not allow the device to truely enter standby mode. Also, note that some 3rd party applications also cause that, for example S2U2 (version 1.40 seems to fix the problem). Plugging in the earphone (via the usb port) also does not let the device to truely enter standby mode. The easiest way to test is to play some music and press the power button. If the screen turns off and the music stops, then it is in standby mode. If not, then the device is does not truely enter standby mode, and it consumes power (but lesser than when it is awakes).
In other words, no matter what you do, the battery lasts 7 hours of usage. So, the only way to extend the battery life to is purchase an extended battery (1800mAH) for Touch Pro. It will make your device thicker though.
When all the lab/field tests are done, one of the tests is to measure voltage drop with a Scopemeter/power analyzer. All we did was put the STOCK device in standby, took the back cover off and measured voltage draw with a Scopemeter/power analyzer . That would be the most accurate means of testing. The Scopemeter I use is a fluke 225c. With a Fluke 43b power quality recorder. the max over a 36hr period in standby was a 24.9mh draw. the lowest recorded was 12.1mh draw. The average was 19.3mh. You could also do this with a basic DMM.
I should also note this was done with ALL radios off.
ramborami said:
Do you have the nuePower battery driver? I've heard that its not very accurate.
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How would I find out which battery driver I have and also what alternatives are available?
IN my miui,
blacklight of it is gone for using the backlight killer
but there is a big problem
about the battery drain!!!
because i charge it 100%
but after 10hrs
is over 5%
OH~~!!!!
anyone have solution???
pls !!!!
(i am not to hate that)
What apps are actually running in background of your phone? I have only a 20~30% drop in battery level in ~9hr without touching my phone(wifi on).
see what the battery life is like if you turn off the killbacklight app for a day
i only open the backlight killer in background
nothings else
There's nothing you can do at the moment, unless someone fix this nasty bug.
You have to know that Android saves battery switching off your CPU while you are not using the phone (=> deep sleep). The app you are using "kills" the backlight every X seconds, that means your CPU is awakened every X seconds to execute something.
Your screen always on uses more battery than your CPU always on, I think, but it always drains the battery.
Use" ddkp3" as the bottom package will be more power, I tried
Hey guys so I know there are a few things that can improve battery life and some things that are supposed to help but may be a mith? Things as only draining battery to 10% and charging to 90% or something like this. What are tips that help? Also if you guys have changed your cpu settings that really improved the battery life let us know!
I drained my battery down to 0% after the second time I used it and it pushed my battery up from 3:30 to 5:30. I also use batterybar to see the stats and whatnot. Another thing you can do is go into power options in the Control Panel and change the plan settings > advance power settings. I usually change the Processor power management settings and the Intel Graphics Settings.
Kraize said:
I drained my battery down to 0% after the second time I used it and it pushed my battery up from 3:30 to 5:30. I also use batterybar to see the stats and whatnot. Another thing you can do is go into power options in the Control Panel and change the plan settings > advance power settings. I usually change the Processor power management settings and the Intel Graphics Settings.
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do you ever charge it to 100%
Does leaving it on the charger like when playing a game or something matter? Does it stop charging once it reaches 100
AFAIK, leaving it on the charger shouldn't matter. It's a smart charger. I always charge it to 100%, but never go lower than 10%. I try to recharge around 15%.
Best thing I've done is disable my bluetooth since I have no devices that use it.
Second is lower the brightness while on battery.
I'm getting around 5:30 of battery life doing things like browsing, email, news reading, and using Autodesk Sketchbook Design.
Disable automatic brightness. Change the screen timeout to the lowest value that works for you. Turn off BT. Turn off live tiles and notifications for apps you don't need to update on your main screen and lock screen. Run the troubleshooter for power and see if you can deal with what it changes.
After doing every possible combinations of ROMs and kernels and everything else under the son I have found the recipe for longer battery life and awesome performance all you need is the Deep Sleep Battery saver Greenify app and Go Power Master Hibernate all your apps then go to Go Power Master and make Greenify and Deep Sleep battery saver whitlisted apps schedule it the way you want Deep sleep battery saver that is as too what apps to sync so often or whatever and example I am used to running my phone dead four or five times a day I charged my phone once in two days when I used this combination so forget all those setting your processor to all these different speeds and profiles just use this and you will see the difference BIG difference unless your over clocked to 1.5 GHz or something even charging the phone and talking on it your battery barely drops this is one hell of a combination took a looooot of time to figure this or but works like a charm
sent from WMD SAMSUNG GALAXY S2
DBDMagic said:
After doing every possible combinations of ROMs and kernels and everything else under the son I have found the recipe for longer battery life and awesome performance all you need is the Deep Sleep Battery saver Greenify app and Go Power Master Hibernate all your apps then go to Go Power Master and make Greenify and Deep Sleep battery saver whitlisted apps schedule it the way you want Deep sleep battery saver that is as too what apps to sync so often or whatever and example I am used to running my phone dead four or five times a day I charged my phone once in two days when I used this combination so forget all those setting your processor to all these different speeds and profiles just use this and you will see the difference BIG difference unless your over clocked to 1.5 GHz or something even charging the phone and talking on it your battery barely drops this is one hell of a combination took a looooot of time to figure this or but works like a charm
sent from WMD SAMSUNG GALAXY S2
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dude, use punctuation
mjz2cool said:
dude, use punctuation
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+1 :good: Why do people write that way?
mjz2cool said:
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+1 also
If you have Deep Sleep problems, that Deep Sleep Battery really helps, but just turn it off (or freeze it) after waking your phone, since it still runs on background while you're using your phones, and consume some RAM, which we don't wanna...
Go Power Master, hmm... That "Optimization" thing just means "Clear Memory" (Background Memory). So if you have Task Managers who have that function, you can ditch GPM with your own Task Manager, less Apps installed
Greenify. The best so far. Cancels-out stupid background apps that persists (much better with the new version, GSF bye-bye! ). I only stay at my unstable 4.0 ROM for this baby (and also Xposed). If Greenify can be incorp'ed with GB firmwares, that would br awesome, which is not possible...
Additional tips:
• Lessen RAM usage (meaning close other running apps, foreground or background), to lessen CPU pressure.
• "Top-Off" your charging time. Do an extra 15-20 minute charge after 100% charging. If "fills up" the mV capacity , for the best full-battery experience
• If your phone can, Underclock/volt. Even less than a hundred mHz. It save some 15-30minute more juice on your phone. Just Overclock if needed, same as Setting the CPU clock to default.
• There are Rooted phones specializes on battery saving by:
*On Multi-Cores: Stop a core(s) to run. Really helps keep the CPU pressure off.
*Kernel Governors: Smartassv2, Hotplug, blah blah blah.. Search it...
• Limit / Lessen the usage of phone while charging. I don't know why, but I think its to, uhmm... prevent the battery pressure from charging-discharging, i guess!?
• Others are pretty basic. Backlights, GPS, Data, WiFi, Bluetooth... Yeah, no need to explain..
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Hy guys,
I noticed that while playing a game (a very CPU intensive one), upon reaching 15% battery, the moment the message alerting me to enable Battery Saving appears, the game starts to struggle, just like phone's performance cuts in half. I have Battery Saver disabled, but it still seems to enable itself automatically @ 15%. Any thoughts?
(i am not rooted, stock Oxygen 9.5.3)