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What is a good setup?

Alright Nexus S community, First off i will say thank you to all the devs and your hard work... i havnt even begun to use all of your awesome work but there SO MUCH stuff in this forum its nutz!
I have been on an lg p500 for awhile now, running a nice CM7 port. Recently i have been given the opportunity to get a Nexus S for CHEAP. I figured why not!
So i come to you guys after about 2 hours of reading through the various threads on kernels and roms.
I am going to be looking for the combination of a kernel / rom that produces the best battery life, with good performance. It doesnt have to be the best rom in benchmarks. But one thats stable with good battery life... with a SMOOTH UI.
Obviously there is alot of developing right now due to the drop of 4.0.4... im just trying to narrow down which rom i will use and which kernel.
suggestions welcome!
Thanks
Nd4

Most ROMs that aren't HEAVILY edited don't vary much in battery life. The kernel can change the battery life a little, but it sits heavily on whether or not you are OCing/OVing. An extreme undervolt could also give you a tiny, probably negligible, boost. This is something you can change in each kernel anyway though.
As always, the biggest problem you'll face is something keeping the phone awake through a wakelock, or be woken up constantly, as well as the screen being on. No unnecessary wakelocks while idling, no rogue apps using transferring data for no reason while screen is off and no heavy OC --> great battery life.
Try out a range of ROMs and Kernels which have the features you want, here on the Nexus S forums they're all top notch

Harbb said:
Most ROMs that aren't HEAVILY edited don't vary much in battery life. The kernel can change the battery life a little, but it sits heavily on whether or not you are OCing/OVing. An extreme undervolt could also give you a tiny, probably negligible, boost. This is something you can change in each kernel anyway though.
As always, the biggest problem you'll face is something keeping the phone awake through a wakelock, or be woken up constantly, as well as the screen being on. No unnecessary wakelocks while idling, no rogue apps using transferring data for no reason while screen is off and no heavy OC --> great battery life.
Try out a range of ROMs and Kernels which have the features you want, here on the Nexus S forums they're all top notch
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thats my problem! SO MANY awesome choices! hmmm which one to start with first.

Pick the ones which have all the features you want first, then move onto the ones which are missing one or two, and so on. TitaniumBackup will be your best friend

Harbb said:
Pick the ones which have all the features you want first, then move onto the ones which are missing one or two, and so on. TitaniumBackup will be your best friend
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any stand out recommendations that i should at least give a try.
Thank you btw for your very warm welcome and help

nd4spdbh said:
any stand out recommendations that i should at least give a try.
Thank you btw for your very warm welcome and help
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yes, all of them
first find a rom you like, then try all the kernels. the kernels can make a difference to the rom. it can make it worse, or much better. really, there are so many differences of opinions to whats good, as many opinions as there are users. but, being in the nexus s community, its really hard to make a wrong choice. there is just that much quality here.
personally, i use unofficial cm9 kangs as my rom with all the trinity kernels. but, i do make it a habit of trying all the kernels(and most the roms) at least once

AOKP and Bigxie ROMs, try these.
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simms22 said:
yes, all of them
first find a rom you like, then try all the kernels. the kernels can make a difference to the rom. it can make it worse, or much better. really, there are so many differences of opinions to whats good, as many opinions as there are users. but, being in the nexus s community, its really hard to make a wrong choice. there is just that much quality here.
personally, i use unofficial cm9 kangs as my rom with all the trinity kernels. but, i do make it a habit of trying all the kernels(and most the roms) at least once
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Pretty much this. Everyone has their personal favourite which means very little to you. Give all of the ones with features you need a try, and once you're happy with a particular ROM give it a shot with various kernels. Later you can expand your horizons.
I'm pretty sure there was a topic not too long ago about how hard it is to choose ROMs and Kernels because there are just so many of them.

Harbb said:
Pretty much this. Everyone has their personal favourite which means very little to you. Give all of the ones with features you need a try, and once you're happy with a particular ROM give it a shot with various kernels. Later you can expand your horizons.
I'm pretty sure there was a topic not too long ago about how hard it is to choose ROMs and Kernels because there are just so many of them.
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well this is good to hear.
In the lg p500 community we had alot of roms that were almost nearly the same, and a buncha junky ones, with a few good standout roms....
Guess once i get the nexus ill begin a flashin and playing!
seems like the major kenels around here are
Air Kernel
Matrix
SG-NS-ICS
yes?

nd4spdbh said:
well this is good to hear.
In the lg p500 community we had alot of roms that were almost nearly the same, and a buncha junky ones, with a few good standout roms....
Guess once i get the nexus ill begin a flashin and playing!
seems like the major kenels around here are
Air Kernel
Matrix
SG-NS-ICS
yes?
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dont forget Trinity Kernel, and its been around the longest

[Q] stock rom vs custom rom

good morning,
i'm quite new on this phone even if It works fine for me with a stock rom 4.0.4 I would you like to understand if there is a good advantage to pass on a custom rom.
Please share with me your experience and answer with my few questions:
what kind of custom rom and kermel you have on?
which is the difference there is in term of battery life; performance; stability.
Thanks for your help

Welcome to the Nexus ... you're going to love this phone. With that said, you need to jump in and do some reading. There is no shortage of opinion on which rom, kernel, or even GB vs ICS ... is best. It very much depends on your likes, dislikes, etc. I assume that you have a gsm device, so make sure to flash the appropriate roms, kernels, etc. Lastly, there is lots of help available, but it's always best if you dig in and bring yourself up to speed with what's already been posted in these great forums. Good luck!

wmdunn said:
Welcome to the Nexus ... you're going to love this phone. With that said, you need to jump in and do some reading. There is no shortage of opinion on which rom, kernel, or even GB vs ICS ... is best. It very much depends on your likes, dislikes, etc. I assume that you have a gsm device, so make sure to flash the appropriate roms, kernels, etc. Lastly, there is lots of help available, but it's always best if you dig in and bring yourself up to speed with what's already been posted in these great forums. Good luck!
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thanks mate,
after few weeks i tested it, i find this phone a very good one and I don't feel the need to jump in a custom rom. I rooted it, installed a busybox and the clockwork and I added some apps to eliminate some gaps like the missing notification when the screen is off (I installed the noled apk for it) or like a switch off or switch on of the screen using the power button (I used an apps called accendi scermo and I switch on and off the screen using the phone sensor). The only thing that miss on this phone is an fm radio offline. I'm still searching a solution.

Stock rom: more stable, less features
Custom rom: less stable, more features

Well if you want to be normal. Than good for you.
Now a custom rom and kernel can give you unlimited privilages to things you can never imagine possible. Undervolting your device to give you brain blowing battery life or over clocking to give you awesome graphics.
A custom rom like CM9 or AOKP (there are way more than two but im just listing the popular ones) is of course better than stock since... well if it wasnt why would they make it. A kernel links your hardware to your software, meaning you can do some tweaking in the middle. If you find the right kernel and rom mix you can have a wopping 15 days standby on your battery (eg CM9 and Matr1x Kernel).
Now thats just the basics. if you are interested and want more information. Just do a bit of research and reading in this forum and ask questions in those forums. Hope this helps.

ics 4.0.4 stock+ simple or thalamus kernel

Or Bugless Beast with one of those kernels
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TigaTiger said:
Well if you want to be normal. Than good for you.
Now a custom rom and kernel can give you unlimited privilages to things you can never imagine possible. Undervolting your device to give you brain blowing battery life or over clocking to give you awesome graphics.
A custom rom like CM9 or AOKP (there are way more than two but im just listing the popular ones) is of course better than stock since... well if it wasnt why would they make it. A kernel links your hardware to your software, meaning you can do some tweaking in the middle. If you find the right kernel and rom mix you can have a wopping 15 days standby on your battery (eg CM9 and Matr1x Kernel).
Now thats just the basics. if you are interested and want more information. Just do a bit of research and reading in this forum and ask questions in those forums. Hope this helps.
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Thanks x your answer. You gave a good view. As sono i find ti me i Will try a custom rom with a kermel
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TigaTiger said:
If you find the right kernel and rom mix you can have a wopping 15 days standby on your battery (eg CM9 and Matr1x Kernel).
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I want 15 days standby! lmfao maybe a day at most if I'm at home with my wifi on and airave all day...

Lol

Lol. Wtf is the point in having a smartphone if you aren't going to use it?
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chronophase1 said:
Lol. Wtf is the point in having a smartphone if you aren't going to use it?
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Haha that's the problem! I use it too much! Lmfao

Rblacula said:
Haha that's the problem! I use it too much! Lmfao
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Yeah.... well, I have to use 2 even 3 batteries for day as heavy usage...
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[Q] Custom ROM vs Stock ROM (thoughts/suggestions/etc)

One of the reasons I purchased the Nexus 5 is because it is Android at is purest. After I got the phone, I used it for a while without rooting it, until I needed to use an app that required root. So about a month after having the phone, I rooted it. Now I am finding some things that KitKat doesn't let you customize. They are all minor interface things but I'm sure everyone here can relate... I want more customization. So, here are my questions:
How long before you rooted and/or flashed a custom ROM?
Are you happy with the stability of your custom ROM?
Any difference in battery life?
Which custom ROM are you using and why?

1. Day one I rooted.
2. Most roms on a nexus are stable... Except maybe some nighties, which are works in progress.
3. Roms have very little impact on battery life.... So don't use that as a deciding point.
4. Mostly you'll just get a list of the most popular roms when you ask that. But I'll say Graviton. Cause it's a little different than some... And the Dev is very active in his rom thread. Always a good thing.
5. questions go in Q&A. For future reference. ?

Please post questions in the Q&A section
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I have rooted the device, the first day I got it, uninstalled bloatware and other crap, installed *my* favorite Apple and I am happy. I did Not finden *any* thing, which could not be customized. What specific point are you missing in customization? My device runs fine, I use Greenify app, so the battery runs about 48 to 60 hours depending on the programs I use. Video is more battery consuming that making a call of course.

@x000111
There's another alternative in case you have a dilemma whether to stay on or leave stock ROM. Check out my GravityBox project (xposed module).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2554049

C3C076 said:
@x000111
There's another alternative in case you have a dilemma whether to stay on or leave stock ROM. Check out my GravityBox project (xposed module).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2554049
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Wow, I just started using Xposed on my tablet but didn't realize it was capable of all of this. Definitely going to try this out before flashing a new ROM.
P.S. Sorry, not sure what I was thinking... for some reason, I thought I was posting in Q&A.

I left it for 3 months. Then used xposed and gravity box to get the notification toggles the way they should be.
I shouldn't have to have it take me into settings to toggle data on and off.
Other than that stock is pretty well perfect for me.
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x000111 said:
Android at is purest.
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Stock Nexus is Android at its purest... with Google apps and services added.

After the OTA images of Lollipop came out, I knew since I was rooted, I would have to do a manual install. So I'm back to stock (non-rooted). Right now, I don't see a reason to root. So far Lollipop 5.0 is serving it's purpose. Yet another huge step in the right direction by Google.

Flashed 5.0 factory images the day they came out, was not satisfied with the OS as a whole, so now flashed a custom ROM Mahdi till 5.x.x comes out or any AOSP 5.0 rom comes out.

gamer.11 said:
Flashed 5.0 factory images the day they came out, was not satisfied with the OS as a whole, so now flashed a custom ROM Mahdi till 5.x.x comes out or any AOSP 5.0 rom comes out.
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AOSP 5.0 roms are already out.

I ordered mine Oct 31 last year. Unlocked the bootloader day one. Probably stayed stock for a bit, don't know how many custom ROMs were out at the start.
Stayed on Cataclysm for a long time, went to Purity. Flashed stock 5.0, was on that a few days and now a custom ROM again.

Primokorn said:
AOSP 5.0 roms are already out.
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I know about that, no offense to the current rom builders but I was more like waiting for slimpop or cm12 or paranoid android roms. But I have a question most of the roms come with gapps built in them which i find confusing as no rom built from source should do that, or are they just themed or mod-ed stock roms?(which is the primary reason i haven't yet tried them out)

x000111 said:
One of the reasons I purchased the Nexus 5 is because it is Android at is purest. After I got the phone, I used it for a while without rooting it, until I needed to use an app that required root. So about a month after having the phone, I rooted it. Now I am finding some things that KitKat doesn't let you customize. They are all minor interface things but I'm sure everyone here can relate... I want more customization. So, here are my questions:
How long before you rooted and/or flashed a custom ROM?
Are you happy with the stability of your custom ROM?
Any difference in battery life?
Which custom ROM are you using and why?
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1 - an hour
2 - I'm on lollipop rooted stock. The custom ROM team slim don't have a ROM for L yet
3 - no. This is entirely down to the user I'll expand below
4 - waiting for Slim. Suits my needs. Unique and useful features
"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM.* The question itself is*ambiguous.* "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM,*ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people*are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few*pages (and have the most posts) in the*Android*Development or*Original*Android Development forums. You can also see what other people*are running by reading the*What*are you running on your Nexus 5 thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device -*they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery*if they have a feature that is badly coded.* You will likely be able*to read about this in the ROM threads.* ROMs do not impact battery*life.* The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings,*how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone*Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read*[Battery*Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
Also, please note that as above, "best" is still subjective.* What we*all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the*misconception that Kernels affect battery life.* Let's get this*cleared up.* Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and*efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY*tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery*life".* This is actually wrong. *Kernels respond to user settings.*Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance*is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning.* The reason*people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their*kernels up with their preferred governor settings.* This is what we*refer to as out-of-the-box settings.* The out-of-the-box settings for*kernel x may well produce better battery results than the*out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance.* The*fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to*perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning*how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based*on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits*of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps

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2 - I'm on lollipop rooted stock. The custom ROM team slim don't have a ROM for L yet
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I'm looking forward to Slim coming out for Lollipop too.
rootSU said:
"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM.* The question itself is*ambiguous.* "Best" is obviously a subjective term....
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people*are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few*pages (and have the most posts) in the*Android*Development or*Original*Android Development forums. You can also see what other people*are running by reading the*What*are you running on your Nexus 5 thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device -*they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery...
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Thanks for the info. That is not what I'm asking or referring to. My main purpose for posting this was to see how other Nexus5 users are using their phones... I kind of wish I had named the thread after the poll I put up: What best describes the usage of your Nexus 5?
rootSU said:
For tips about improving battery life, please read*[Battery*Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
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I haven't had any battery issues but I'm always interested in improving battery life.
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Those are some good resources. Thanks for posting.

Best smothness kernel?

Hi, currently im using blu spark kernel but I'm wondering which kernel is the best if all what I care is smothness of os, scrolling etc. And second question: if I have now blu spark kernel and want to change it for a elementalx for example all I must to do is just flash new kernel in recovery or go back to stock and flash then? And third.. what options i can change in kernel audiotor to get best smothness? I'm just crazy about smothness, all my monitors have 144hz and every single, even little drop of fps make my nervous.. Thanks for answers :angel:

cherrz said:
Hi, currently im using blu spark kernel but I'm wondering which kernel is the best if all what I care is smothness of os, scrolling etc. And second question: if I have now blu spark kernel and want to change it for a elementalx for example all I must to do is just flash new kernel in recovery or go back to stock and flash then? And third.. what options i can change in kernel audiotor to get best smothness? I'm just crazy about smothness, all my monitors have 144hz and every single, even little drop of fps make my nervous.. Thanks for answers :angel:
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This is going to be tough. If smoothness is your goal then EX, Flash, Radioactive, Smurf will be potential candidates. I've heard recently a lot of people falling in love with the flash kernel but development has been halted until further notice. I personally use EX. Half these kernels achieve similar functionality so it's largely preference and what mates with your device well.

All the kernels are very good and the OP6 is naturally so fast that it's hard to tell which one is better.
Indeed, a lot of people say flash kernel is the fastest and the one with the best performance. I can tell it's blazing fast. But is it faster than others? I couldn't tell for sure.
From my personal experience, I can tell Flash is great (but not maintained anymore, so don't expect it to keep working after a few OOS updates), otherwise I really love blu spark and FK. However, these two have bugs with camera since OOS 9.0.2 so I'd recommend to wait for a move from OP or them before recommending them.
Fourth great recommendation, EX: it's really good and rock-stable.

I use EX Kernel and it's insanely stable and 100% smooth. Never had a hiccup, stutters or lag with the kernel and achieve 9-11 hours of screen on time per charge. I've used flash kernel in the past but was a time but more performance based and not quite as good with battery then EX is but I read it's no longer in development which I find strange. The flash had been the kernels for OnePlus devices since the 5 that I know of and I think since the 3 actually.

From my experience, Flash and BluSpark kernels are the smoothest. EX and FK are more battery friendly.
Also, both Flash and BluSpark had way better Antutu benchmarks when comparing to EX/FK.

Good stable custom rom ?

Hello all !
I would like to know opinions on different rom. For the moment, I have only tested the Pixel Experience but quickly abandoned it because it was impossible to change the definition, only 1440p ...
I really liked the Paranoid Quartz on my old Mi9T, is it still so good?
I'm mainly looking for something stable, not necessarily thousands of options, just stable, fast and allowing to go to 1080p (and good APN)
Thanks for the answers !

I have been using custom ROMs for 10 years on all kinds of Android phones. This is my first OnePlus (7Pro). The oxygen OS is the first stock ROM I have not customized. For me it works perfectly, and it offers the flexibility that I've only found in custom ROMs, so I have no need or desire to customize. If I may ask, why do you feel it is better to customize? No judgement here, just curious.

Same here, never replaced the stock ROM ever since the OnePlus One. They're doing a great job. Always flashed a custom ROM with any other manufacturer.

Stay stock and enjoy the awesome battery life. If you want to change it up a bit, install the RICE tweaks Rom, xxx NoLimits, and a custom kernel like Smurf.
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Stay stock and enjoy the awesome battery life. If you want to change it up a bit, install the RICE tweaks Rom, xxx NoLimits, and a custom kernel like Smurf.
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Awesome battery life ? I've only 6h max sot with 1080p90hz, it's not awesome it's just average. I just have flash Elemental X kernel
I like OOS but i prefer Pixel Experience look, like Settings menu, Gapps...Can switch quickly between light and dark mode, true AOD
I did not understand everything about A / B slots, I have my rom installed on slot B, I can test a new rom on slot A without formatting and lose my current rom right?

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Awesome battery life ? I've only 6h max sot with 1080p90hz, it's not awesome it's just average. I just have flash Elemental X kernel
I like OOS but i prefer Pixel Experience look, like Settings menu, Gapps...Can switch quickly between light and dark mode, true AOD
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then you have other battery drainers, because my battery lasts quite a while. Of course, I don't have many social media crap apps listening. I only have the instagram app and remind - that's it.
Look for the BetterBatteryStats thread, install it, and investigate what drained your battery.
Or, stay with Pixel Experience. Or, get a Pixel

Can i try other rom with A or B slot like multirom ?

I don't know how those slots work either. On my Pixel 2XL I tried that multi rom thing and it didn't work out so I don't do that anymore.

Same here. UI is awesome! I have both pros 7 and 8 best I did cuz I know we all like to play and that's we we're here. Is on the 7pro I went beta and the 8pro I changed the kernel to kirish. 8pro lasts forever and 7pro wonderful to use!