I saw it on the xiaomi 9/9t forum that you can overclock it from 60 to 75 / 84hz, is it possible with the OnePlus 7 Pro too?
Maximilian Gaedig said:
I saw it on the xiaomi 9/9t forum that you can overclock it from 60 to 75 / 84hz, is it possible with the OnePlus 7 Pro too?
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120hz? Never. Maybe 100, but videos will look bad and your battery life would be bad af
matze19999 said:
120hz? Never. Maybe 100, but videos will look bad and your battery life would be bad af
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I understand battery life would be slightly worse but why would videos look bad?
rejectedjs said:
I understand battery life would be slightly worse but why would videos look bad?
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Because the Hz number should always be:
60, 120, 144, 240 or sth like that. If its not in sync with the video it wouldn't look smooth
matze19999 said:
Because the Hz number should always be:
60, 120, 144, 240 or sth like that. If its not in sync with the video it wouldn't look smooth
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Correct. Most cinematography is shot in 24fps (Netflix etc). Most YouTube content is rendered in 30fps or 60fps. Thus, 60/90/120hz refresh rates are used on most displays. After that 144hz is used because it's 24*3 and then 240 (240hz is not as common since there aren't many games that can sustain 240fps on current hardware).
In short, as long as the refresh rate is a multiple of either 24 or 30 it won't cause issues on most content. Good example is my gaming monitor being overclocked to 165hz. It's nice for gaming but for content consumption I need to remove my OC to get it back to 144hz otherwise I just deal with some choppiness in the video. Overclocking this display to 100hz would make tasks like scrolling and gaming better (at the risk of worse battery life pushing more pixels per second) but would really impact content consumption, which is what most people do on their smart phones 50% of the time.
i.Design said:
Correct. Most cinematography is shot in 24fps (Netflix etc). Most YouTube content is rendered in 30fps or 60fps. Thus, 60/90/120hz refresh rates are used on most displays. After that 144hz is used because it's 24*3 and then 240 (240hz is not as common since there aren't many games that can sustain 240fps on current hardware).
In short, as long as the refresh rate is a multiple of either 24 or 30 it won't cause issues on most content. Good example is my gaming monitor being overclocked to 165hz. It's nice for gaming but for content consumption I need to remove my OC to get it back to 144hz otherwise I just deal with some choppiness in the video. Overclocking this display to 100hz would make tasks like scrolling and gaming better (at the risk of worse battery life pushing more pixels per second) but would really impact content consumption, which is what most people do on their smart phones 50% of the time.
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Very good explenation, thanks!
Good explanation! Cheers
Is there an opportunity to overclock the screen by oneplus 7 pro?
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Hi all,
I just get my note20 ultra in LATAM (N985F unfortunatelly with the 8GB RAM only), but that is OK, it works, so far so good not as i wanted because i came from Note10+ with 12GB of RAM, but not big difference.
I want to ask you about your experience about what is the best combination in screen resolution and the refresh rate.
As it is not possible to use WQHD+ with the Adaptive rate (60 and 120), what do you recommend for better battery life and experience? WQHD+ with 60Hz or FHD+ with Adaptive mode?
Will i notice any difference between WQHD+ and FHD+ so far?
Thanx!
Personally I can't tell the difference between the two display settings but I can see the difference between refresh rates.
It's upto you what you want to experience in regards to 60 or 120hz but I prefer to give up a little battery for better refresh rate.
Phone Buff found a difference in battery drain between 60 & 120hz: https://youtu.be/CYnFhpNSbdk
I think the battery life is garbage regardless of that setting.
ekerbuddyeker said:
I think the battery life is garbage regardless of that setting.
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Yes, i think the same, the battery from this note20 ultra is not like the previous note10+, it was much better experience with the note10.
Not sure if this should be related with software or what, but hope it can be improved
Been using the phone for 24 hours now, don't really see much point in the 120hz rate, only notice it slightly smoother if scrolling up and down quickly.
I guess it's more for games (?).
I will stick with 60hz and save some battery, seems fine to me.
The 120hz are very good, the problem is that there are so many lags and frame drop.
DonkeyKonk said:
Been using the phone for 24 hours now, don't really see much point in the 120hz rate, only notice it slightly smoother if scrolling up and down quickly.
I guess it's more for games (?).
I will stick with 60hz and save some battery, seems fine to me.
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same here, turned it off... 60hz is fine... 120hz impact on battery is not worth it
I'm more interested in its 240Hz touch sampling rate...
I think the screen response time is around 4-5ms which makes the image smear and not take advantage of the 120hz
I absolutely love the 120hz. I have the Mi 9T with 60hz here for comparison, and the handling on it feels just awful now. Terribly stuttery. I don't play any games, just scrolling all day long on Reddit.
No idea how you can still use 60hz voluntarily. I also get 10h SOT at 120hz, so battery is really not a problem.
Yes 60Hz / 120Hz on the daily usage is noticeable in things like scrolling and some animation, but I can live without it.
On gaming is a completely different story, is a lot noticeable. I'm really not a mobile gamer but installed the old Max Payne (one of my all time favourite games) for the dead times and it's a hell of a difference between 60Hz / 120Hz.
As a 60Hz PC peasant right now, I prefer look at Max Payne in my phone that at my PC! :laugh:
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I absolutely love the 120hz. I have the Mi 9T with 60hz here for comparison, and the handling on it feels just awful now. Terribly stuttery. I don't play any games, just scrolling all day long on Reddit.
No idea how you can still use 60hz voluntarily. I also get 10h SOT at 120hz, so battery is really not a problem.
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Same, the difference is night and day . I will never go back to 60hz after this.
True 60hz is horrible after experiencing 90/120 Hz I have a TCL 10 pro with a Amoled Display and comparing it with its 60hz the Poco X3 wins hands down for fluid even if it's not Amoled wish they had made it Amoled or Oled would of smashed any competition out of the water I would of even paid bit extra Lol , few things I've noticed are bit choppy is Google feed and play store when scrolling but prob don't support 120hz yet it's the same on my OnePlus 8 pro even
Hopefully future updates will iron out the niggles but for the price I'm blown away with it so far only gripe is LCD is so dated now but then for the price it's expected is a little bit of light bleed at the bottom of display anybody else notice this ??? Or am I just unfortunate and have a bad one if so I can get it replaced with Amazon ,[emoji106]
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Same problem here, the Google feed seems to run at 60hz. The drawer also semms to drop some frame, isn't amoot as the home page.
If you are interested, you can check the current refreshrate and fps in any app by going into the developer settings --> power monitor --> press "start" on Frame Rate Monitor Tools.
I always have to press the start button twice, then it shows the current fps in green. Current refreshrate is shown with blue background.
The adaptive refreshrate works good in my opinion, e.g. in Youtube it quickly jumps down to 30hz / 60hz depending on the type of video.
Thx for the monitor tip!
You are correct with YouTube running on 60Hz.
But it is strange that the poco launcher is constantly running on 120fps without touching the screen.
I switched to nova launcher. Same results
They haven't implemented it very well. It felt better on the realme 6 and x50. The recents and Google page feels like 60
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developer settings --> power monitor --> press "start" on Frame Rate Monitor Tools.
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Mario Kart average was about 115fps, menus locked at 30
For the ammount of battery that 120hz chugs it's not worth it for me
I've also tried with this tool, and i've seen major frame drop in the home screen, like 115 to 100 is a second, and thats the moments you can see the stutter. The multitask menu runs at 90hz, and youtube and google discover at 60. But there is an issue, this phone never reach the 120hz, except when in idle, and this frame variations make the user experience way "laggy": it would be a good idea to lock the fps at 100hz, but very stable, than a continously dropping and false 120hz.
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I've also tried with this tool, and i've seen major frame drop in the home screen, like 115 to 100 is a second, and thats the moments you can see the stutter. The multitask menu runs at 90hz, and youtube and google discover at 60. But there is an issue, this phone never reach the 120hz, except when in idle, and this frame variations make the user experience way "laggy": it would be a good idea to lock the fps at 100hz, but very stable, than a continously dropping and false 120hz.
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Is there a method to lock the refresh rate?
Actually no.
https://youtu.be/JZNnB3JYhNA
This guy seems to have a method to lock the rate at 120hz, on all apps untill a phone is rebooted.... have tried yet
I can't see 120Hz Slow, unrealistic screen. HDR looks like old display. Whit yellowish, green photos.
Came across this Note 20 Ultra thread for a secret 96Hz mode:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...es/note-20-ultra-secret-96hz-display-t4149657
Downloaded the Labs app from the OP and it's working perfectly. Not noticing a significant difference in smoothness and after a full charge cycle my active drain is down about 30% (ymmv).
tab00t^2 said:
Came across this Note 20 Ultra thread for a secret 96Hz mode:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...es/note-20-ultra-secret-96hz-display-t4149657
Downloaded the Labs app from the OP and it's working perfectly. Not noticing a significant difference in smoothness and after a full charge cycle my active drain is down about 30% (ymmv).
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Nice fine but I'm still loving my battery life as it is now
oreice said:
Nice fine but I'm still loving my battery life as it is now
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I've been pretty consistently getting about 6 hours SOT the first week with my normal routine/setup (Wi-Fi only, adaptive smoothness, rarely over 50% brightness) mainly using the inner screen. Not bad, I assume, for a device like this. With 96Hz so far it seems to be stretching that out close to 9.
What is the point in this since the inner screen has a refresh rate of 120Hz?
EDIT: Ah never mind, it is to prolong battery life, I see.
Btw for those of you who might want to test if this works, you can go to "https://www.displayhz.com/" and see it there. I recommend to use the Quick Tiles for toggling between 120Hz and 96Hz so that you can see it going into effect (in both ways).
It works perfectly
It saves battery without loss of quality
Thank you!
Hello,
is after this mod,the smaller front screen also working with 96hz?
Lavendel Queen said:
Hello,
is after this mod,the smaller front screen also working with 96hz?
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Obviously not because the front screen is only up to 60Hz, so how do you think that would work??
I think I should share this to you
[App][Non-root]Galaxy Max Hz (Refresh Rate Control & Monitor and Resolution Switcher)
tribalfs said:
I think I should share this to you
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-20-ultra/themes/app-n20u-max-hz-t4181447
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Thanks much, this app is better; nice to have the fps overlay toggle too.
The app above works 100%. Thank you for providing the link. Will be sure to use when I'm below a certain battery %.
Call me insane, but I can genuinely see the difference between 96hz and 120hz. Having used 144hz+ monitors to game for the better part of a decade, I guess I'm used to high refresh displays.
Brief update: I've uninstalled the app.
I noticed my battery life actually got significantly worse because I tend to run the phone at 120hz. Being on YouTube/twitch a lot, I typically don't need 120hz but the app forces 120hz rather than allowing it to drop to 30hz or 60hz when I'm watching content.
I hope there aren't any adverse affects.. actually - I'll likely just factory reset it and start fresh.
AhsanU said:
Brief update: I've uninstalled the app.
I noticed my battery life actually got significantly worse because I tend to run the phone at 120hz. Being on YouTube/twitch a lot, I typically don't need 120hz but the app forces 120hz rather than allowing it to drop to 30hz or 60hz when I'm watching content.
I hope there aren't any adverse affects.. actually - I'll likely just factory reset it and start fresh.
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+1
Battery life was worse at 96hz. Dies the app LOCK the display at 96hz or does it set max 96hz?
AhsanU said:
Brief update: I've uninstalled the app.
I noticed my battery life actually got significantly worse because I tend to run the phone at 120hz. Being on YouTube/twitch a lot, I typically don't need 120hz but the app forces 120hz rather than allowing it to drop to 30hz or 60hz when I'm watching content.
I hope there aren't any adverse affects.. actually - I'll likely just factory reset it and start fresh.
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Battery life was worse at 96hz. Dies the app LOCK the display at 96hz or does it set max 96hz?
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You guys should use the newer version which is made for the Note 20 Ultra, which sets the Refresh Rate to a variable instead of locking it, because that is the exact problem. I also used the first one to begin with, which locked the Refresh Rate at 96Hz instead of allowing it to be variable. If you use the one for the Note 20 Ultra (posted a page back) instead, you will see that it should work much better.
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You guys should use the newer version which is made for the Note 20 Ultra, which sets the Refresh Rate to a variable instead of locking it, because that is the exact problem. I also used the first one to begin with, which locked the Refresh Rate at 96Hz instead of allowing it to be variable. If you use the one for the Note 20 Ultra (posted a page back) instead, you will see that it should work much better.
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I did use the one linked at the bottom of the first page, and didn't see any options for a variable refresh rate? Two quick setting options appear which allows me to toggle 120hz, 96hz, and 60hz, and the other setting is to see the current fps. And I recall when I open the app, there wasn't anything there apart from a bit of text? Kind of don't want to install it to avoid messing with settings since battery life is pretty important.
Edit: I see that the app does force 60hz after a certain amount of time (on its own volition). That being said, my battery life got significantly worse so I'll stick to stock for now.
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I did use the one linked at the bottom of the first page, and didn't see any options for a variable refresh rate? Two quick setting options appear which allows me to toggle 120hz, 96hz, and 60hz, and the other setting is to see the current fps. And I recall when I open the app, there wasn't anything there apart from a bit of text? Kind of don't want to install it to avoid messing with settings since battery life is pretty important.
Edit: I see that the app does force 60hz after a certain amount of time (on its own volition). That being said, my battery life got significantly worse so I'll stick to stock for now.
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It's just the stock system behavior.
96hz max mode just limit the ramping up of refresh rate to 96hz instead of 120hz. Your battery life being worse probably due to other factor/s.
I did like the 96HZ Mode...............It saved battery...and works on requirement
I found something interesting with this mod.
It works all good, you can set the max hz refresh rate to 96 and the behavior its the same as stock, it takes more or less the same time when the screen is idle to drop to 60, and the smoothness you loss from 120 to 96 its not much noticeable
I found something thay maybe is misworking
When you are on youtube (vanced app in this particular case) and you are seeing a 60fps clip, the stock refresh rate goes to 60hz like the video was at 30 or 24, but if you set the 96hz mode it never drops to 60
This could be a problem if you watch a lot of youtube at 60 fps and could affect somehow to battery life, which is the thing we are trying to improve
With other videos or apps i havent noticed any problem
Thanks
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miguelvrmtz said:
I found something interesting with this mod.
It works all good, you can set the max hz refresh rate to 96 and the behavior its the same as stock, it takes more or less the same time when the screen is idle to drop to 60, and the smoothness you loss from 120 to 96 its not much noticeable
I found something thay maybe is misworking
When you are on youtube (vanced app in this particular case) and you are seeing a 60fps clip, the stock refresh rate goes to 60hz like the video was at 30 or 24, but if you set the 96hz mode it never drops to 60
This could be a problem if you watch a lot of youtube at 60 fps and could affect somehow to battery life, which is the thing we are trying to improve
With other videos or apps i havent noticed any problem
Thanks
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That's not what I'm experiencing. Using the Note 20 Ultra version, refresh rate drops to 60hz when watching videos in Vanced with 96hz maximum adaptive rate. I was going to post a screenshot but every time I touch the screen the refresh rate jumps back up (which is expected behavior).
Mekrel said:
That's not what I'm experiencing. Using the Note 20 Ultra version, refresh rate drops to 60hz when watching videos in Vanced with 96hz maximum adaptive rate. I was going to post a screenshot but every time I touch the screen the refresh rate jumps back up (which is expected behavior).
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Are they 60 fps videos? In case they are it has to be specified in the settings where you switch the resolution...
Other videos works perfect for me, even in Vanced
Btw, im using the last update of the app
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I've set the refresh rate to adaptive then I used an app to monitor my framerate.
When I open a game (e.g. Among Us) the fps does change from 120 to 60.
But when I watch videos on Netflix or Youtube, it stays at 120 despite both apps not supporting this framerate.
So when does it actually "adapt" aside from games?
interesting..I have no idea personally although I have been curious of the same. I can tell you that battery life on mine (SD865) has been pretty terrible, like 2-4 hours SOT over the course of a normal day (12 ish hour period) whereas my S20+ had nearly double the SOT.
I doubt the refresh rate is actually changing like they claimed it would.
I used to use Galaxy Max Hz (https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ods-qs-tiles-tasker-support-and-more.4220481//) on my rooted S21 Ultra, which is a great app that allows the screen at standstill to be reduced to 10hz before immediately ramping back up to 120hz (or any other step up you liked - I set mine to 90hz as the difference wasn't overly noticeable) if you touched the screen resulting in scrolling or movement. Is there an equivalent on the Pixel, do you know? I'm very happy with the battery life, but reckon something like this would improve it further.
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I used to use Galaxy Max Hz (https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ods-qs-tiles-tasker-support-and-more.4220481//) on my rooted S21 Ultra, which is a great app that allows the screen at standstill to be reduced to 10hz before immediately ramping back up to 120hz (or any other step up you liked - I set mine to 90hz as the difference wasn't overly noticeable) if you touched the screen resulting in scrolling or movement. Is there an equivalent on the Pixel, do you know? I'm very happy with the battery life, but reckon something like this would improve it further.
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I'm guessing, but I'm thinking the answer is no, the Pixel screen only varies between 60-120. I tried ADB commands to choose 96 as the high but it fails. I use that app on my S22 Ultra and works great. I haven't seen any negative battery effects of letting it do it's thing up to 120. (So far).
I believe the screen varies from 10Hz-120Hz but only hits 10Hz in certain situations (e.g. When content is static with good ambient lighting). The refresh rate in Developer Options uses SurfaceFlinger, but SurfaceFlinger doesn't read below 60Hz and you need to use the Display Controller or some other means (as done below) to read below that, is my understanding.
This is from the Pixel 6 Pro, but the concept should still be the same for the Pixel 7 Pro...
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498870947272556546
There is also this...
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/rn5wrp
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I'm guessing, but I'm thinking the answer is no, the Pixel screen only varies between 60-120. I tried ADB commands to choose 96 as the high but it fails. I use that app on my S22 Ultra and works great. I haven't seen any negative battery effects of letting it do it's thing up to 120. (So far).
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According to the gsmarena:
For refresh rate, you get a single toggle in the settings menu called 'Smooth Display', which enables the 120Hz mode. The thing is, despite the official specsheet listing the display as being able to adjust refresh rate in the 10-120Hz range, Android only reports 120Hz and 60Hz modes, both in the Display.Mode class and while the phone is in use with the 'Show refresh rate' utility turned on in Developer options. So while it's somewhat adaptive and will switch from 120Hz down to 60Hz for static content or when you're not touching the display, other refresh rates don't appear to be used (or supported). That's quite perplexing.
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As they advertised variable refresh rate it should be possible. I'm not sure why it hasn't been implemented yet but hopefully they will do it.
That's a bit irritating, but less than it might have been given the battery life (for me at least) is more than good enough.
I just set adb force min, and max 24, and it's forced to full all the time. ZERO issues with batt life
I used to use the Samsung max hz app myself and found it great. Best I've done so far on the P7P is dev options and force max hz. Seems to be working for me so far