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I've only had two phones prior to this but I have always unlocked the boot loader / rooted the device / installed a custom recovery / installed custom ROMS.
I believe with my MOTO X 1st gen this disabled the OTA updates.
Is that the case with the Honor 8? I'm wondering if it is worth it to install TWRP at this point as there seems to be so little in the way of kernels and ROMS.
Would I still be able to use SU or Xposed modules without Root?
What is the best move with this phone?
I have unlocked my bootloader as well as rooted my Honor 8. The only way to get SU and Xposed is by doing both of these procedures(root involves getting TWRP).
As for any Xposed modules, I tried amplify+greenify but instead of getting better battery life, my standby time decreased significantly. I am not sure why, but for some reason my Cell standby was showing to be eating a ton of my battery. Another big problem was that the dialer app would not let me call anyone, it kept crashing whenever I tried to. Both problems were fixed after I managed to get amplify+greenify uninstalled. Currently I am just running YouTube AdAway and MinMinGuard which seem to work fine.
So at this point, is it worth unlocking bootleader, installing TWRP, and rooting your phone? Well if there are certain Xposed modules that you really want then sure, and if there are certain apps you like that require root, then yes go ahead and root your phone. Note that if you try any OTA updates, you will have to remove TWRP as having your phone automatically restart and try to install the update wont work.
Imagine that the Honor 8 receives an update to say, Nougat, what is the pathway to update for someone who has rooted their phone. Will the OTA be able to be flashed if a .zip is provided here? Would we need to flash an entirely new ROM?
This is what I faced with my MOTO X. When Marshmallow came out there was talk... but no one was working on the at phone any longer so was never able to update.
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Imagine that the Honor 8 receives an update to say, Nougat, what is the pathway to update for someone who has rooted their phone. Will the OTA be able to be flashed if a .zip is provided here? Would we need to flash an entirely new ROM?
This is what I faced with my MOTO X. When Marshmallow came out there was talk... but no one was working on the at phone any longer so was never able to update.
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It doesnt matter whether or not your phone is rooted. You will get updates the same way, through OTA. Of course you can find .zip files to flash(although personally I am struggling to get the latest update flashed through TWRP).
The real question is for how long will we be receiving updates? Nougat is pretty much guaranteed with the new EMUI update. Huawei/Honor has promised up to 2 years of updates from what I have heard, but who knows what that actually means. They have also have a "partnership" with XDA, and the phone is decently popular so I am sure there will be a few roms, just not as many as say a OP3.
Why are people trying to flash via TWRP if the OTA updates still work after rooting and unlocking the boot loader?
pairustwo said:
Why are people trying to flash via TWRP if the OTA updates still work after rooting and unlocking the boot loader?
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Okay so I just figured it out, but for the OTA update to work after rooting and having a non-stock recovery, you need to go to Settings->Updater->Menu(located on the bottom)->Download latest full package.
The full package is ~1.6GB and the regular update is ~280mb. The full package will work even if you have TWRP installed. But if you want the regular 280mb update, you need to get rid of TWRP and go back to a stock recovery.
Of course you will need to reinstall TWRP and root your phone again after doing this update.
Rakeen70210 said:
Okay so I just figured it out, but for the OTA update to work after rooting and having a non-stock recovery, you need to go to Settings->Updater->Menu(located on the bottom)->Download latest full package.
The full package is ~1.6GB and the regular update is ~280mb. The full package will work even if you have TWRP installed. But if you want the regular 280mb update, you need to get rid of TWRP and go back to a stock recovery.
Of course you will need to reinstall TWRP and root your phone again after doing this update.
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I see the full package but I cant click on this, nothing is happened when I click on this.
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I see the full package but I cant click on this, nothing is happened when I click on this.
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I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean you can see the text "Download latest full package" but it is greyed out? If so please check to see if you arent currently at the latest version. If there is another problem, you might want to try to find a .zip of the full package and flash it that way.
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I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean you can see the text "Download latest full package" but it is greyed out? If so please check to see if you arent currently at the latest version. If there is another problem, you might want to try to find a .zip of the full package and flash it that way.
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Yes , not greyed , but red color , and cant click on this .
I downloaded a full update of B31 about 1.77giga , just copy to the phone and flash it in twrp ?
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Yes , not greyed , but red color , and cant click on this .
I downloaded a full update of B31 about 1.77giga , just copy to the phone and flash it in twrp ?
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The exact latest update that I currently have is FRD-L04C567B150. I am not sure where you got your update but I suggest you just flash back to a complete stock image and try to update again from there.
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The exact latest update that I currently have is FRD-L04C567B150. I am not sure where you got your update but I suggest you just flash back to a complete stock image and try to update again from there.
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its normal , you live in India no ?
i'm live in European country , so update are different .. Last update for us is FRD-L04C432B130
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its normal , you live in India no ?
i'm live in European country , so update are different .. Last update for us is FRD-L04C432B130
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No I am in the US. I am not sure about the EU version, but yes if you can find a .zip update file just put it on your phone and go into TWRP to install it. Might wanna make a backup too and wipe cache too just in case.
So if i download the full package in update and install it, bootloader will still be open? No full wipe? And later i only need to install twrp and root the phone again?
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So if i download the full package in update and install it, bootloader will still be open? No full wipe? And later i only need to install twrp and root the phone again?
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Updating or wiping your phone does not lock the Bootloader. The only way to lock the Bootloader again is by doing it manually yourself.
Yes after doing a full update you will need to reinstall TWRP as it will be replaced with the stock recovery and then re-root your phone again.
Rakeen70210, you sound really confident about doing full updates after rooting. Will these full updates also replace the kernel?
palendrome87 and NAS420 could you guys report back with any success or errors you have flashing full updates?
Where can one download full updates for Honor 8?
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Rakeen70210, you sound really confident about doing full updates after rooting. Will these full updates also replace the kernel?
palendrome87 and NAS420 could you guys report back with any success or errors you have flashing full updates?
Where can one download full updates for Honor 8?
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Seeing as how the full update package was ~1.65GB in size, I think its ok to assume that it replaces everything with the stock Honor 8 image. So yes it will replace the kernel too.
For downloading full updates, the only way I got mine was an OTA directly from the phone itself. Look at my previous comments to see how I got this update. If for some reason you cant update, check if your model is ready for an update. If it is and you cant update, try to flash back to a stock image. You should be able to find one on this site or anywhere else.
Flash stock recovery will lock boot loader ?
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Flash stock recovery will lock boot loader ?
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No, the only way to lock the bootloader is to manually lock it yourself using a similar operation to unlocking it.
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No, the only way to lock the bootloader is to manually lock it yourself using a similar operation to unlocking it.
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I thought the same thing, but after taking the full OTA update my bootloader was locked again. If you want to update I would suggest first making a full backup to the external SD card in TWRP.
Then , its better to download à full update ( update.zip) ,copy to root of the phone , reboot in twrp and flash it ? Anyone already did it ?
I want to root my OP6, but having rooted some Samsung Phones already I have some concerns, although it is supposed to be a lot easier to root OnePlus devices.
1. If I root my device and install TWRP will the process of installing System Updates change in any way, or will I still be able to install every ota update via updates app? (am on android p "O2" beta 7 rn)
2. Are there different recoverys for different types of OP6 (like different countrys, vendors etc.)?
3. Is there a chance of bricking my device flashing the new recovery?
4. What is the fastest/best way to back up my data before unlocking my bootloader?
Really hoping for some answers. Sorry if my english is bad and/or if I posted in the wrong topic. Thanks
1. Ota will still work. However it will replace twrp and Magisk. To keep them do this if your doing the update from OS:
Let it do the update (DO NOT REBOOT!)
start magisk app go to downloads
Search for TWRP A/B
Install that one. (should only be one hit) (DO NOT REBOOT)
Go to main screen of magisk app
Click install, install, install to inactive slot (after ota)
Now reboot and you have twrp and magisk.
2. Nah.. But use bluspark twrp and you will be good. Always works for me.
3. Not really... Hard to brick Qualcomm. But please.. Read the guide an extra time.. Don't skip steps (like reboot and what not..)
4. Swift backup for apps+data from apps. PC to save pictures/downloads you want to keep.
A few months ago I followed one of tutorials and unlock the bootloader, installed twrp, magisk, and gain root. I am normally a flashaholic but lately I been busy and working and have stay on the stock rom and haven't touch it. So I don't know much about how things work. I noticed I have a notification for the new update. What steps do I need to take to download the new update from oneplus and stay rooted? Or can I just download the updated as is?
Edit: Also, if I wanted to install an Android 11 rom, are they stable enough for daily use? If so, any recommendations?
Thanks in advance.
J3STUR said:
A few months ago I followed one of tutorials and unlock the bootloader, installed twrp, magisk, and gain root. I am normally a flashaholic but lately I been busy and working and have stay on the stock rom and haven't touch it. So I don't know much about how things work. I noticed I have a notification for the new update. What steps do I need to take to download the new update from oneplus and stay rooted? Or can I just download the updated as is?
Edit: Also, if I wanted to install an Android 11 rom, are they stable enough for daily use? If so, any recommendations?
Thanks in advance.
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There is specific guides. Regarding this. You use a app to download the update. Apply it don't reboot. Then in magisk flash a twrp retention zip. And magisk install on inactive slot. Then reboot. Is the jist of it
TheMadScientist said:
There is specific guides. Regarding this. You use a app to download the update. Apply it don't reboot. Then in magisk flash a twrp retention zip. And magisk install on inactive slot. Then reboot. Is the jist of it
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Thank you!
Hi guys. I know there has been a million topics about this and I've read most of them but does anyone know which route is currently the safest for an ota update? I have a 7pro rooted with Twrp and magisk. I'm on 10.0.5 and looking to update to 10.0.10.
Should I use trwp recovery and flash everything from there or can I flash locally and then use magisk along with the a/b retention script? I messed up rooting the phone originally and lost some data and now I have a mental block around which method is safest to do without losing my data or bootlooping. I want to make sure both slots update correctly and I'm unsure of the correct method.
Any help would be appreciated before I give it a go, thank you.
I'm also wondering if I've edited the build prop in any way with the build prop editor, will this cause a boot loop or will a full ota zip return it to normal anyway?
Thanks
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Hi guys. I know there has been a million topics about this and I've read most of them but does anyone know which route is currently the safest for an ota update? I have a 7pro rooted with Twrp and magisk. I'm on 10.0.5 and looking to update to 10.0.10.
Should I use trwp recovery and flash everything from there or can I flash locally and then use magisk along with the a/b retention script? I messed up rooting the phone originally and lost some data and now I have a mental block around which method is safest to do without losing my data or bootlooping. I want to make sure both slots update correctly and I'm unsure of the correct method.
Any help would be appreciated before I give it a go, thank you.
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the typical and safe route to take an OTA and keep your root is:
download OTA using oxygen downloader app
Use the sytem update app to install the file above using the local upgrade option. DO NOT REBOOT.
Use magisk to install the twrp a/b keeper script. DO NOT REBOOT.
Use magisk to install magisk to the inactive slot. Then reboot.
I have the gm1913 phone which is a different variant, but I'm sure that the concept is the same.
Good luck.
Thanks for the reply. Did something similar to this
What I ended up doing incase anyone else needs to know..
Disable all magisk modules and reboot
Flash full update from local storage
Don't reboot
Go to magisk and flash twrp zip
Don't reboot
Flash magisk zip to separate slot (ota option)
Now phone reboots its self
Re enable modules in Magisk
Reboot
Profit
Hello all,
My phone came with ColorOS OOS 12 and I hate it. As soon as I rooted it it started crashing daily, I even reflashed a fresh oos12 image using the local update tool and only granted superuser to one app (solid explorer so I could access user files) and it still crashes. Not to mention all the apps i want to use don't work on android 12 (call recorder, busy box) and no custom recovery.
I've been reading through the forum and I found a downgrade package that looks like its hosted by oneplus: https://oxygenos.oneplus.net/OnePlu...all_2107082125_downgrade_059624cc7298428b.zip
I just wanted to make sure I am doing this correctly...
Do I use the OP Local Update app to flash?
Will I be able to flash TWRP for android 11 afterwards?
Will i need to relock the bootloader?
Should i re-root using the magisk slot b method or wait until its flashed and use TWRP?
Will it try to OTA back to android 12? If so, what's the best method to get on the latest version of android 11?
Thanks for the help.
I am running COS C.62 on my OP9 with root and having no issues. Did you make sure to do all the things in this guide?
Root OnePlus ColorOS 12 OxygenOS Android 12 via Magisk
In this tutorial, we will show you detailed steps to root your OnePlus device running ColorOS 12 Android 12 via Magisk Patched Boot.img file.
www.droidwin.com
Anyway, yes, use the local upgrade APK, put the downgrade file in the root of storage, run it. Reboot. Factory reset and wipe data to clear out any leftover crap (don't restore a backup - if you want to use Clone Phone you can do that but only restore app APKs and messages). When it reboots it should offer the latest OOS11 OTA first. If not, just download it and place it in the root and use the local upgrade function in the settings menu of the OOS11 system updater.
There is no need re-lock the bootloader and if you do, you risk a brick that has to be recovered with MSM Tool.
Root by following the guide I linked. I just went through this yesterday after flashing COS broke mobile data. I have Magisk 24.3 working with denylist, Widevine L1, and SafetyNet passes so I have Google Pay.
EtherealRemnant said:
I am running COS C.62 on my OP9 with root and having no issues. Did you make sure to do all the things in this guide?
Root OnePlus ColorOS 12 OxygenOS Android 12 via Magisk
In this tutorial, we will show you detailed steps to root your OnePlus device running ColorOS 12 Android 12 via Magisk Patched Boot.img file.
www.droidwin.com
Anyway, yes, use the local upgrade APK, put the downgrade file in the root of storage, run it. Reboot. Factory reset and wipe data to clear out any leftover crap (don't restore a backup - if you want to use Clone Phone you can do that but only restore app APKs and messages). When it reboots it should offer the latest OOS11 OTA first. If not, just download it and place it in the root and use the local upgrade function in the settings menu of the OOS11 system updater.
There is no need re-lock the bootloader and if you do, you risk a brick that has to be recovered with MSM Tool.
Root by following the guide I linked. I just went through this yesterday after flashing COS broke mobile data. I have Magisk 24.3 working with denylist, Widevine L1, and SafetyNet passes so I have Google Pay.
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Thank you, ill give it a try.
First i used the payload.bin method and it was crashing, then i reflashed the latest OTA using the local update tool and used the magisk slot b method. still crashing.
It might have less to do with the root and more with me using root to disable certain apps (youtube, chrome, OP community, google news/podcast/tv) i dont want them on my phone but they might be too tightly integrated. If its still crashing on android 11 ill re-enable them and see if that helps.
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Thank you, ill give it a try.
First i used the payload.bin method and it was crashing, then i reflashed the latest OTA using the local update tool and used the magisk slot b method. still crashing.
It might have less to do with the root and more with me using root to disable certain apps (youtube, chrome, OP community, google news/podcast/tv) i dont want them on my phone but they might be too tightly integrated. If its still crashing on android 11 ill re-enable them and see if that helps.
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Okay you're on OOS, not COS. COS doesn't have Google apps by default (but has plenty more bloatware, I just don't use it).
It's certainly possible that disabling Google apps is your problem. If you don't want Google apps, you're better off with a custom ROM that doesn't have them. CalyxOS has a beta for OnePlus 9 and it's totally de-Googled. There's also Lineage.
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Okay you're on OOS, not COS. COS doesn't have Google apps by default (but has plenty more bloatware, I just don't use it).
It's certainly possible that disabling Google apps is your problem. If you don't want Google apps, you're better off with a custom ROM that doesn't have them. CalyxOS has a beta for OnePlus 9 and it's totally de-Googled. There's also Lineage.
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ahhhh. i didnt realize there was a difference. I thought OP was just calling their android 12 build ColorOS.
Either way, for custom roms i would have to go back to 11 to flash TWRP right? or can you flash custom roms using fastboot?
aaronbaird1 said:
ahhhh. i didnt realize there was a difference. I thought OP was just calling their android 12 build ColorOS.
Either way, for custom roms i would have to go back to 11 to flash TWRP right? or can you flash custom roms using fastboot?
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You would need to back to 11 because OnePlus hasn't released working sources for 12. Just use the downgrade package, factory reset, then upgrade to 11.2.10.10 and you'll be good to go for custom ROMs. TWRP isn't used for flashing them, they all generally post their own recovery. StagOS was the best one I used (plus the dev is really responsive when there are issues) and people seem to really be enjoying Nameless but that came out after I went back to stock so I haven't tried it yet.
Before you mess with custom ROMs, make sure that you download the global MSM Tool and make sure you can connect it. Honestly since you have to go back anyway, might as well download and use the MSM Tool to get the device back to 11 anyway.
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Easiest way to get it into EDL is adb reboot edl but if you want to practice the key combination in case you can't get into the OS, I found if you open the MSM, check use lite firehose, and click Start before you connect the phone, it has less connection errors because it's waiting for the phone so as soon as you connect the cable, it pops up.
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TWRP isn't used for flashing them, they all generally post their own recovery.
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Really??? you can tell I haven't messed with custom roms in a long time.
Thank you for all the help. I'll try it out.
aaronbaird1 said:
Really??? you can tell I haven't messed with custom roms in a long time.
Thank you for all the help. I'll try it out.
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Yeah TWRP has issues. I soft bricked last time I tried to do anything with it and had to use MSM Tool to get back to working order.