Hdr not working - Samsung Galaxy A8 (2018) Questions & Answers

On 9.0 pie 1st april security patch on an a530f bought from telenor carrier in serbia
The hdr doesnt work at all.In bright scenes the hdr logo appears in the corner but when i snap a pic its still overexposed and it does nothing.When i use hdr always on the pics are still garbage.
Since upgrading from 8.0 the gcam from s7 doesnt work at all and all other gcam pie ports also dont work.
Is there a pie gcam for this phone because i really miss hdr plus.

BlokB said:
On 9.0 pie 1st april security patch on an a530f bought from telenor carrier in serbia
The hdr doesnt work at all.In bright scenes the hdr logo appears in the corner but when i snap a pic its still overexposed and it does nothing.When i use hdr always on the pics are still garbage.
Since upgrading from 8.0 the gcam from s7 doesnt work at all and all other gcam pie ports also dont work.
Is there a pie gcam for this phone because i really miss hdr plus.
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I gotta clear up that hdr doesnt work on the stock camera apk and gcam doesnt work at all

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Best GCam (Google camera app) for the xz2c

Hi everyone, i just get my new xz2c. I found this site where you can find a list of modded gcam apps. most of these apss are developed fot op5/op5t. But some versions run on xz2c too. And front camera bokeh works too.
Different modded apps have differente resolutions. The best version so far i tried is this one with these resolutions: Rear camera 8mpixels, front 5mpixels, bokeh rear 2megapixels, front 5megapixels.
Any feedback from other users?
armato said:
Hi everyone, i just get my new xz2c. I found this site where you can find a list of modded gcam apps. most of these apss are developed fot op5/op5t. But some versions run on xz2c too. And front camera bokeh works too.
Different modded apps have differente resolutions. The best version so far i tried is this one with these resolutions: Rear camera 8mpixels, front 5mpixels, bokeh rear 2megapixels, front 5megapixels.
Any feedback from other users?
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thanks but hdr+ auto works for you in this version? if so what hdr settings did you choose? it doesn't seems to work here, no hdr processing after acquriing the pictures..
also panorama doesn't seem to work here :silly:
Panorama working here...
Can't get HDR+ to work, but that's the only Gcam working for me.
Any Gcam for S845 available yet ?
I'm my opinion Xperia camera is pretty superior to any other camera app I tried, why use Google camera?
Selfie camera is better With gcamera
HDR is not really the bestest on stock camera.
I wonder if with the release of Pixel 3 with SD845, whose ISP should be confirmed to be used straightly on XZ2, situation might not improve.
zynexx said:
I'm my opinion Xperia camera is pretty superior to any other camera app I tried, why use Google camera?
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just for photosphere : D
the others shots with sony camera...
the fez said:
just for photosphere : D
the others shots with sony camera...
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Ah, that makes seance. Never really used it so...
mirhl said:
HDR is not really the bestest on stock camera.
I wonder if with the release of Pixel 3 with SD845, whose ISP should be confirmed to be used straightly on XZ2, situation might not improve.
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Hm, I like the HDR mode of the XZ2 a lot. It doesn't look artificial, and just increases the dynamic range.
However low light performance could be improved if HDR+ can be used. That's why I would want to use the Google Camera. The XZ2 has a large sensor, so low light performance could be pretty good, even without image stabilisation.
kadajawi said:
Hm, I like the HDR mode of the XZ2 a lot. It doesn't look artificial, and just increases the dynamic range.
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Can't find HDR mode on my XZ2 compact, or maybe it's auto ?
Wildfear said:
Can't find HDR mode on my XZ2 compact, or maybe it's auto ?
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This is kinda OT
Btw you have to go to manual mode
Enter the settings (the gear) and turn on HDR
Yeah, I know, it's totally nonsense putting this option there
salamala893 said:
This is kinda OT
Btw you have to go to manual mode
Enter the settings (the gear) and turn on HDR
Yeah, I know, it's totally nonsense putting this option there
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Thx for the tip !
Still waiting for a S845 compatible google camera to compare results with stock app
salamala893 said:
This is kinda OT
Btw you have to go to manual mode
Enter the settings (the gear) and turn on HDR
Yeah, I know, it's totally nonsense putting this option there
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Hey that's my biggest complaint about the cam app because we often need to switch HDR ON/OFF on this device.
Especially as I shoot in manual because I prefer its results than the auto mode, more natural colors in general and so much better for taking people faces when the light is low.
It's even more stupid to have to go into settings since they already have an HDR toggle icon right on screen in video mode. They could just put the same HDR toggle for stills.
Can someone create a mirror? Link doesn't work anymore. Thanks!
can u post the correct setting for the google camera cam for potriat mode front and back
Thanks, in XZ2 is the best Gcam too.
Worst quality in photos tan stock camera app but photosphere is cool
With the announcement at IFA, Sony will update the camera app. Sony they know that the software needs to be improved, and now the developers are working on it with a mirror photographic series Alpha.
it has been a while since this topic is updated did anyone check one of the latest updates with pixel 3 apk? there are some ports made for op6.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77819850&postcount=2268
my wife complains a lot about the stock sony cam, grainy, red skins in low light. so I cannot really test the apps myself
I tried some modded versione of Google camera 6.x
None works right now...

Best Camera for RNote 7

I've found a lot of topics but none discuss in fact wich is the best camera app for Redmi Note 7 (Global Version).
I love the camera lens, but the stock camera app not so much... Wich one you thing is the best camera app ever for Redmi Note 7 Pro?
Paid, Ported, Free,...
I'm also very interested in this.
I've never installed a different camera app to a phone before, but the default app doesn't seem very good, and if there's better to be had I want it.
I constantly hear praise for Gcam, but it sounds like there's many different ports of it and no real clear answer on which one works the best.
Bumping this question, and ignoring the fact that the OP is talking about lavender and not violet, but are there any good Camera apps for the RN7P yet?
I've got the China RN7P and i've flashed crDroid onto it, but now that i'm looking into it, i'm having trouble finding a good working cam.
All of the Gcam ports i've tried have failed to recognize the 48MP rear camera, and completely hides the "Gcam settings" option so I can't even re-balance the terrible saturation.
I've also tried crDroid's default camera and Open Camera from the play store, both of which also didn't let the rear camera go above 12MP, and the pictures they took didn't stand up to what even the 12MP Gcams took (minus ruined saturation).
So is there anyway to get Gcam with 48MP and functional settings working on a custom rom, or is there any third party camera app that can recognise the 48MP on a custom rom and get close to Gcam's quality?
and if no to both of those, any idea how long it might take for a working 48MP camera to be working on a custom rom'd RN7P?
Sanarise said:
Bumping this question, and ignoring the fact that the OP is talking about lavender and not violet, but are there any good Camera apps for the RN7P yet?
I've got the China RN7P and i've flashed crDroid onto it, but now that i'm looking into it, i'm having trouble finding a good working cam.
All of the Gcam ports i've tried have failed to recognize the 48MP rear camera, and completely hides the "Gcam settings" option so I can't even re-balance the terrible saturation.
I've also tried crDroid's default camera and Open Camera from the play store, both of which also didn't let the rear camera go above 12MP, and the pictures they took didn't stand up to what even the 12MP Gcams took (minus ruined saturation).
So is there anyway to get Gcam with 48MP and functional settings working on a custom rom, or is there any third party camera app that can recognise the 48MP on a custom rom and get close to Gcam's quality?
and if no to both of those, any idea how long it might take for a working 48MP camera to be working on a custom rom'd RN7P?
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Try Portrait mode on gcam. It takes 48MP photos by default.
AbhiAbhiBisht said:
Try Portrait mode on gcam. It takes 48MP photos by default.
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Excuse the messy living room pictures, and the fact that they're rotated despite being upright on my pc
but there's no difference at all, even in the properties of the images.
Pretty much same image quality, exact same resolution, and the settings still only says 12MP without an option for 48MP.
The first image is from 'camera' and the second image is from 'portrait' (which for some reason always takes pictures in burst mode).
Also I don't really know what level of quality I should be getting from the RN7P's camera, but I get the feeling they shouldn't be this visibly blurred and noisy.
Sanarise said:
Excuse the messy living room pictures, and the fact that they're rotated despite being upright on my pc
but there's no difference at all, even in the properties of the images.
Pretty much same image quality, exact same resolution, and the settings still only says 12MP without an option for 48MP.
The first image is from 'camera' and the second image is from 'portrait' (which for some reason always takes pictures in burst mode).
Also I don't really know what level of quality I should be getting from the RN7P's camera, but I get the feeling they shouldn't be this visibly blurred and noisy.
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Are using the Chinese version of the Redmi Note 7 or the note 7 pro?
Harshdeeptomar said:
Are using the Chinese version of the Redmi Note 7 or the note 7 pro?
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I own the Chinese Redmi Note 7 Pro (Violet)
Back when I was on MIUI 10, the MIUI camera app did recognize the 48MP camera, so it does have it.
Unless I somehow got sent the Indian version instead, in which case, i'd be pretty upset because it also has worse bands for my country too.
Sanarise said:
I own the Chinese Redmi Note 7 Pro (Violet)
Back when I was on MIUI 10, the MIUI camera app did recognize the 48MP camera, so it does have it.
Unless I somehow got sent the Indian version instead, in which case, i'd be pretty upset because it also has worse bands for my country too.
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48MP Work in Pro Mode of Stock Camera.
Xiaomi Not Give 48MP Option in Normal Mode
RupeshRN said:
48MP Work in Pro Mode of Stock Camera.
Xiaomi Not Give 48MP Option in Normal Mode
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I know, but I'm not on MIUI 10 as I flashed a custom rom, so I don't have access to MIUI's Stock Camera
Try gcam of xtreme. He is developing it for mi 9 which has the same sensor.
Try this MIUI camera port for custom ROMs
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-7-pro/themes/anxcamera-modded-t3927012
Vishal P said:
Try gcam of xtreme. He is developing it for mi 9 which has the same sensor.
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I tried both the xtreme and fu24 versions of gcam posted here in the Mi 9 forums, but both of them still only let me go up to 12MP in the settings.
The xtreme version took identical pictures in both 'camera' and 'portrait' mode just like the other gcams I've tried, and the fu24 version refused to even take a picture in 'portrait' mode.
Use Gcam 6.1 And Click Photo in Portrait Mode after Select Photo without Blur in Gallery.
Portrait Mode Support 48MP.
TheMrBinary said:
Try this MIUI camera port for custom ROMs
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-7-pro/themes/anxcamera-modded-t3927012
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Thanks, it seems to work great!
It's a bit hard to tell if pro mode is actually taking 48MP pics with the current bug that puts out small resolution images, but hopefully that should be fixed soon.
Sanarise said:
I own the Chinese Redmi Note 7 Pro (Violet)
Back when I was on MIUI 10, the MIUI camera app did recognize the 48MP camera, so it does have it.
Unless I somehow got sent the Indian version instead, in which case, i'd be pretty upset because it also has worse bands for my country too.
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Hey can you try the Gcam 6.1.021 Note7pro
I can't post the download link because I'm a New member sorry. ?
You have to use portrait mode to get full 48MP photos.
Also to get the best possible results increase the saturation to 1.6 in settings and in Gcam settings enable HDR+ for portrait mode and disable Zoom in portrait mode to avoid the crop that Gcam has on it's photos.
Harshdeeptomar said:
Hey can you try the Gcam 6.1.021 Note7pro
I can't post the download link because I'm a New member sorry.
You have to use portrait mode to get full 48MP photos.
Also to get the best possible results increase the saturation to 1.6 in settings and in Gcam settings enable HDR+ for portrait mode and disable Zoom in portrait mode to avoid the crop that Gcam has on it's photos.
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I appreciate you trying to help, but I've tried 3 different ports of Gcam 6.1.021 and one port of Gcam 6.2.something
Even in portrait mode, the pictures it takes aren't 48MP, I've even posted examples in this thread.
No matter which port I used, what settings I changed or what mode I used, all the pictures came out the same.
12MP, and a resolution of 4000x3000
Sanarise said:
I appreciate you trying to help, but I've tried 3 different ports of Gcam 6.1.021 and one port of Gcam 6.2.something
Even in portrait mode, the pictures it takes aren't 48MP, I've even posted examples in this thread.
No matter which port I used, what settings I changed or what mode I used, all the pictures came out the same.
12MP, and a resolution of 4000x3000
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Just a thought here because I might be wrong but could gcam only be finding 12mp because of the pixel binning? Essentially, from what I've read and seen the sensor combines 4x 12mp to create the 48mp. I'm running the rn7 myself and see no difference between 12mp and 48mp in pro mode apart from being able to zoom slightly more on the higher mp shot.
Jbobz24 said:
Just a thought here because I might be wrong but could gcam only be finding 12mp because of the pixel binning? Essentially, from what I've read and seen the sensor combines 4x 12mp to create the 48mp. I'm running the rn7 myself and see no difference between 12mp and 48mp in pro mode apart from being able to zoom slightly more on the higher mp shot.
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Actually, the main camera sensor is a real Sony IMX586 48MP. The reason you don't see any difference between 12MP and 48MP is because both the photos are coming from a same sensor. It's just that the former one is pixel binned to decrease photo size and capture more light.
I believe True 48 MP mode can only be accessed using proper camera libs. Otherwise you can only get the 12 MP Mode
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Jbobz24 said:
Just a thought here because I might be wrong but could gcam only be finding 12mp because of the pixel binning? Essentially, from what I've read and seen the sensor combines 4x 12mp to create the 48mp. I'm running the rn7 myself and see no difference between 12mp and 48mp in pro mode apart from being able to zoom slightly more on the higher mp shot.
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Take a pic in night with both the modes in RN7 PRO with Sony IMX586. You'll see the difference. Not sure about samsung sensor.
Please, what is the best settings for my GCAM for best photography

any usable gcam port available?

while the build in cam is nice... still like the gcam. any version that works?
tried s10 port and it crashes
I've been using S10 Port no issues. Note 10 (-) snapdragon unlocked
I'm using the S10 port as well and everything seems to work except using HDR with the wide angle lens causes the app to crash on both 6.1 and 6.2.
ajsmsg78 said:
I'm using the S10 port as well and everything seems to work except using HDR with the wide angle lens causes the app to crash on both 6.1 and 6.2.
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Im also seeing the same crashing issue, its also not saving wide angle lens photos at all. Regular angle lens works fine.
Swcon said:
Im also seeing the same crashing issue, its also not saving wide angle lens photos at all. Regular angle lens works fine.
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I'm using the S10 Port and I doesn't give an option for a wide angle lens and any setting with the front facing option will keep crashing upon taking a picture. Everything else seems to work fine, including the night option. . I hope an apk comes out soon, as there is a significant difference in quality vs the default camera on the Note 10 +. After seeing the results, I don't even want to open the default camera. The amount of noise and non-focus is a turn off for me.
Swcon said:
Im also seeing the same crashing issue, its also not saving wide angle lens photos at all. Regular angle lens works fine.
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Yep same here. I installed the latest 6.2 GCam and while the camera doesn't crash on that version it also doesn't take any pics with the wide angle camera.
iakovl said:
while the build in cam is nice... still like the gcam. any version that works?
tried s10 port and it crashes
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I've been using 1+ 7 Pro ports for the past month. Everything works afaik (aside from switching to telephoto manually). Many ports are available in Tele groups where Arnova, and other porters reside. Links to these groups can't be shared on the forum ofc, against the rules.
How can we get access? I have tried so many different version. I'm on Note10+ US Snapdragon.
I can't find anything that supports Wide Angle, Portrait, or RAW. All files come out in 600 resolution when using raw/dng.

Samsung Galaxy s20 fe exynos gcam

Hello all,
Ive bought a new s20 fe ( exynos version )
Is there any working Gcam apk with night sight and astrophotography for the exynos version ?
Thank you all
Mothanashaqrah said:
Hello all,
Ive bought a new s20 fe ( exynos version )
Is there any working Gcam apk with night sight and astrophotography for the exynos version ?
Thank you all
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Yo boy, stop spamming this forum when your ****ty site doesn't even offer any software for this phone!
mxxcon said:
Yo boy, stop spamming this forum when your ****ty site doesn't even offer any software for this phone!
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It's not spam ZGcam is only one that works on FE.. try the latest version.
Config file for S20FE Exynos Zgcam latest version?
tomzzi said:
Config file for S20FE Exynos Zgcam latest version?
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Here you go, save as .xml file and place it in GCAM/Configs folder. Then double tap in the black area in the ZGCAM app around the camera shutter button and select your config file.
Works great for night mode, and especially in-door photos. Out in the sun, doesn't work as good as stock. And in extreme lowlight conditions, you're better off with stock. This config works best for low-medium light settings.
The ZGCam works (not the front cam) but did not see so much difference generally from stock. Maybe a bit in nightsight.
This latest version of BSG GCam looks promising. not everything works but main cam, ultrawide and night mode (rear) do.
Front cam does not save photos (any solution through settings?)
Its ultra customisable, i got lost in settings....
My main problem is blown highlights in daylight. Exposure slider down gives wrong exposure to view finder, images come dark.
I tried to adjust exposure compensation
Settings -> Modules -> Back 1.0 -> exposure compensation +1 , but this gives me overall darker images, have to use google photos autofix to get a proper day image.
Then there is RAM PATCHER, i got lost in there.
Settings -> Modules -> Back 1.0 -> image processing -> Enable RAM patcher -> Exposure: -Enabled -> Exposure settings: Chaos
If anybody has some tips or created an XML for this latest 8.1 version from BSG MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1r (BSG, 2021-09-08) please share.
Will try nightsight tonight and report.
EDIT: Tried nightsight, found no difference than stock night sight, except that its faster processing. Newer HDR+ didnt do something, trying different models also did nothing. Stock nightmode handles bright lights a bit better.
Tip if you gonna try this mod, leave models as they are. In case you get 2 sliders for shadows and highlights that dont work in the view finder, just clear cache and data and re-set the app. Haven't tried astro (not my thing)

G cam config

Hello there
Ive downoaded the zgcam for exynos version of the s20 fe
But it seems ive got some issues like discoloration with night sight , the astro is not working on long and medium exposure , and the front facing camera is not working , there is a config file which can help me but i dont know how to do it
If anybody could help me with this ill be very thankfull
Have you read this page? https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/settings09/
Mothanashaqrah said:
Hello there
Ive downoaded the zgcam for exynos version of the s20 fe
But it seems ive got some issues like discoloration with night sight , the astro is not working on long and medium exposure , and the front facing camera is not working , there is a config file which can help me but i dont know how to do it
If anybody could help me with this ill be very thankfull
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I can't download anything from that site. Linkvertise refuses to give me a link, even with all adblocks disabled and watching their stupid ads.
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I can't download anything from that site. Linkvertise refuses to give me a link, even with all adblocks disabled and watching their stupid ads.
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That site is trash. I tell you that I managed to download the apk, installed and use it. But you can't change between the rear cameras, you can't use the front camera (at leat I don't find a way to do it). So I'll keep using the Sammy camera and play a little more with pro mode.
This config works great on my S20 FE Exynos:- https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fr2tTrKMKot_tJNp4wyyR6Vk-5hIXvP-/view?usp=sharing
Place the GCAM folder in your internal storage, open the GCAM app, double tap on the black area around the shutter button and select default.xml
**Please make sure you're using ZGCAM 6.1**
Night Sight is better than stock with a tripod.
I know this is for the S20FE Snapdragon but there is some info on config settings
[GCam] Google Camera for Galaxy S20 FE 5G | GCam 8.1 LATEST (cyanogenmods.org)
I've been playing around with this for a few days now. This is on the latest Wichaya apk which is still on 7.3 but it still works well for me:
Wichaya: GCam_7.3.018_Urnyx05-v2.1_Wichaya_V3.1.1.apk
Download GCam_7.3.018_Urnyx05-v2.1_Wichaya_V3.1.1.apk by Wichaya.
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I've attached my config file for Snapdragon models. All lenses working with the correct label, selfie is showing the correct framing with no crop. Haven't tweaked many advanced features but for all intents and purposes the app is functioning as if it was made for this phone and I'm fairly pleased with the results. A few cons to this as it is not the latest GCam version and video is inferior but I tend to stick with the stock Samsung app for that.
Snapdragon only!
Have you tried Latest Arnova beta?Do you manage to make work auxialiary lens?I think quality is better with 8.1 version.
You can get tele working by setting tele id to 52. Wide and ultrawide are working oob.
If anyone has a good config for the latest arnova please do share. Snapdragon model. The ultrawide cam output is terrible and I can't tweak it, viewfinder is a bit blurry, autofocus only sosom telephoto takes a photo but gets stuck for a while on HDR+ processing. Sometimes the tele photo saves but it is really poor quality. Main cam works well. Still playing with the settings.
Trying to downloading
somebody posted a thread on reddit with a recommendation for a version of Arnova GCam and a link to both the apk and config.
it appears to be working with all cameras, I've only tested it briefly but if anyone is interested...
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS20FE/comments/mmzt9o
click the photo to visit the page... reddit links are strange lol.
Lol thanks yes looks like my config I posted in another thread.
in that case, thank you sir
*tip of the hat to you
EDIT: telephoto performance is abysmal for me. huge lag and what looks like digital zoom.
Here is my latest xml
I prefer a more natural look so have been trying to tone down the saturation a bit. Pretty happy with the results so far. Telephoto should work well.
Samsung S20 FE Snapdragon.
Powerful444 said:
Here is my latest xml
I prefer a more natural look so have been trying to tone down the saturation a bit. Pretty happy with the results so far. Telephoto should work well.
Samsung S20 FE Snapdragon.
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the telephoto lens still doesn't open at all
Do you have a snapdragon or trying to use it on exynos?
Powerful444 said:
Do you have a snapdragon or trying to use it on exynos?
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SD version, clicking on x2 or whatever it is makes the screen go black and stay that way until the app crashes in the background because I got bored waiting.
3mel said:
SD version, clicking on x2 or whatever it is makes the screen go black and stay that way until the app crashes in the background because I got bored waiting.
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Weird. Maybe the XML didn't load properly. It shouldn't do that.

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