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I thought that the Verizon variant was supposed to be SM-G955V but mine says SM-G955U. What's the deal with that?
My Verizon S8+ also shows 955U in settings, however the box says 955UZVV. The phone came with all the installed Verizon bloat. Maybe all the base models are 955U just with a custom firmware like the S7 series.
Salval said:
I thought that the Verizon variant was supposed to be SM-G955V but mine says SM-G955U. What's the deal with that?
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Mine also says that, but I think it's because they just shortened the model name. The full model name for Verizon is SM-G955UZKAVZW. While the Unlocked versions is SM-G955UZKAXAA.
My LTE doesn't seem to work properly or at all on my new S8+. My phone is not yet rooted and don't want to root until I figure out what issue I have. Judging from reading some forums, it seems it's my CSC but I can't make heads or tails about it, nor do I understand what the CSC is. I just get a headache reading about it lol.
I ordered the international version online (FD) and I'm with Virgin Mobile (Sister company to Bell Mobility) and it seems like my phone has crap service in places it should have undoubtedly full LTE+ speed.
I first noticed this with my S6 (G920-W8). When I rooted it and used the xtrestolite rom, it gave my phone model the international version (F) and never actually gave it a second thought until I upgraded. When I unrooted the S6 and put the stock rom back in, I gave the phone to the wife and I just recently noticed she has full LTE service where I previously overlooked. Now my S8+ has the prior issue the rooted S6 had. lol.
What is it about the international that makes the LTE not work properly and is there a way to correct this? And if possible, explained to me in dummy terms what the issue is and why? Thanks in advance
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My LTE doesn't seem to work properly or at all on my new S8+. My phone is not yet rooted and don't want to root until I figure out what issue I have. Judging from reading some forums, it seems it's my CSC but I can't make heads or tails about it, nor do I understand what the CSC is. I just get a headache reading about it lol.
I ordered the international version online (FD) and I'm with Virgin Mobile (Sister company to Bell Mobility) and it seems like my phone has crap service in places it should have undoubtedly full LTE+ speed.
I first noticed this with my S6 (G920-W8). When I rooted it and used the xtrestolite rom, it gave my phone model the international version (F) and never actually gave it a second thought until I upgraded. When I unrooted the S6 and put the stock rom back in, I gave the phone to the wife and I just recently noticed she has full LTE service where I previously overlooked. Now my S8+ has the prior issue the rooted S6 had. lol.
What is it about the international that makes the LTE not work properly and is there a way to correct this? And if possible, explained to me in dummy terms what the issue is and why? Thanks in advance
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I have an s8 plus FD on rogers and it works 100% fine here in Toronto.
As did my note 7 FD as does my note FE as did my FD s7 edge
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force70 said:
I have an s8 plus FD on rogers and it works 100% fine here in Toronto.
As did my note 7 FD as does my note FE as did my FD s7 edge
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Yeah I'm in Alberta. I know at the bare minimum that it's software related but I just can't figure it out. Because like I said, as soon as I unrooted the S6, it had full LTE service in places it previously didn't. I'm assuming it's gotta be narrowed down to what the international uses. And I've heard mentions of "CSC" but that's a complicated concept for me.
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I have an s8 plus FD on rogers and it works 100% fine here in Toronto.
As did my note 7 FD as does my note FE as did my FD s7 edge
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Jesus christ. You bought a note FE too? You sure know how to waste your money [emoji23] [emoji23] Hope you are saving for retirement lol
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Brava27 said:
Jesus christ. You bought a note FE too? You sure know how to waste your money [emoji23] [emoji23] Hope you are saving for retirement lol
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Not a waste at all lol....had to have an FE.
Im not 100% sold on the note 8 yet though so I might not get it....might not lol.
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Just updating..
Got a new SIM card installed and it seems to have helped. But I'll only know for sure when I'm back at work.
Do you know how I can change the 4G icon to say LTE instead? And I'm still curious about the CSC and if mine can be flashed with a Canadian one?
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Just updating..
Got a new SIM card installed and it seems to have helped. But I'll only know for sure when I'm back at work.
Do you know how I can change the 4G icon to say LTE instead? And I'm still curious about the CSC and if mine can be flashed with a Canadian one?
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I dont think you can flash a CAN csc in odin but i think some of the custom roms allow csc choice on install.
My FD is from panama and displays LTE not 4g....
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Damn. I can't remember where my FD was from.
I successfully rooted it and not sure what I did but I got caught in the FAP lock and unable to boot and I'm trying to find the stock rom. Going through the list on sammobile, I'm sure mine ended with the QG5 but can't remember the country.
You think all of these would be the same so long as the PDA matches? Looking through the S8 box, I have the foreign manuals that say printed in vietnam. lol
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Damn. I can't remember where my FD was from.
I successfully rooted it and not sure what I did but I got caught in the FAP lock and unable to boot and I'm trying to find the stock rom. Going through the list on sammobile, I'm sure mine ended with the QG5 but can't remember the country.
You think all of these would be the same so long as the PDA matches? Looking through the S8 box, I have the foreign manuals that say printed in vietnam. lol
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Doesnt make much diff...just pick an fd firmware and flash it lol....they will all flash in odin
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force70 said:
Doesnt make much diff...just pick an fd firmware and flash it lol....they will all flash in odin
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I figured lol.
Finally got my stuff sorted out, out of bootloop, installed the virgin csc, actually 100% fixed my reception issue.
But I'm hoping you can answer one final question. My phone is now rooted comfortably, got all my settings and apps back up which took forever considering I had to do it 3 times lol.
What's with the security log agent telling me
'Unauthorized actions have been detected... reboot to fix'.
I'm 100% that this is what locked me up last time in that FRP lock or whatever. Which is what forced me to reflash the stock rom. Do you know how to rid of this?
Is this completely normal after rooting the S8? Never had this before with my S5 or S6 so it's a little scary considering I don't want to get locked up again lol.
Reppy07 said:
I figured lol.
Finally got my stuff sorted out, out of bootloop, installed the virgin csc, actually 100% fixed my reception issue.
But I'm hoping you can answer one final question. My phone is now rooted comfortably, got all my settings and apps back up which took forever considering I had to do it 3 times lol.
What's with the security log agent telling me
'Unauthorized actions have been detected... reboot to fix'.
I'm 100% that this is what locked me up last time in that FRP lock or whatever. Which is what forced me to reflash the stock rom. Do you know how to rid of this?
Is this completely normal after rooting the S8? Never had this before with my S5 or S6 so it's a little scary considering I don't want to get locked up again lol.
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This is how you can fix 'Unauthorized actions have been detected... reboot to fix' error:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu8E6WuQmII
Reppy07 said:
I figured lol.
Finally got my stuff sorted out, out of bootloop, installed the virgin csc, actually 100% fixed my reception issue.
But I'm hoping you can answer one final question. My phone is now rooted comfortably, got all my settings and apps back up which took forever considering I had to do it 3 times lol.
What's with the security log agent telling me
'Unauthorized actions have been detected... reboot to fix'.
I'm 100% that this is what locked me up last time in that FRP lock or whatever. Which is what forced me to reflash the stock rom. Do you know how to rid of this?
Is this completely normal after rooting the S8? Never had this before with my S5 or S6 so it's a little scary considering I don't want to get locked up again lol.
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Oh Yeah....thats an annoying massage.
Just freeze the securitylog apk with titanium BU or something and it will go away.
Frp lock is something different.
force70 said:
Oh Yeah....thats an annoying massage.
Just freeze the securitylog apk with titanium BU or something and it will go away.
Frp lock is something different.
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Thanks man. Trial and error to get rid of that message honestly.
Any idea what's the frp lock from?
And just curious what do you think would happen if I let android security fix this unauthorized issue and reboot itself?
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Thanks man. Trial and error to get rid of that message honestly.
Any idea what's the frp lock from?
And just curious what do you think would happen if I let android security fix this unauthorized issue and reboot itself?
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Frp lock is when you factory reset and didnt delete your google login and then forgot your password.
I cant say for sure about the security issue but i wouldn't do it with my device...nothing good can come out of that lol
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force70 said:
Frp lock is when you factory reset and didnt delete your google login and then forgot your password.
I cant say for sure about the security issue but i wouldn't do it with my device...nothing good can come out of that lol
sent from my Note FE, S8 plus, or S6
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Thank you for all the replies my friend. Helped me out a lot. Cheers
I've just bought a galaxy s8 plus on gumtree and just realised it's an American unlocked version. I wanted to flash EE firmware to enable Wi-Fi calling but I'm not sure if it's still possible using Odin as the uk phones have different chipsets.
Can anyone confirm either way?
Thanks in advance.
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I've just bought a galaxy s8 plus on gumtree and just realised it's an American unlocked version. I wanted to flash EE firmware to enable Wi-Fi calling but I'm not sure if it's still possible using Odin as the uk phones have different chipsets.
Can anyone confirm either way?
Thanks in advance.
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Snapdragon variant phones don't support the band's here in the UK so I don't think it will work. Vice versa an exynos variant won't work in the US
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Snapdragon variant phones don't support the band's here in the UK so I don't think it will work. Vice versa an exynos variant won't work in the US
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I was afraid that would be the case.
Thanks for letting me know.
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Snapdragon variant phones don't support the band's here in the UK so I don't think it will work. Vice versa an exynos variant won't work in the US
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The phone does work ok here in the UK along with 4g. I don't expect to get. As good coverage though. Are you sure it wouldn't work?
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I've just bought a galaxy s8 plus on gumtree and just realised it's an American unlocked version. I wanted to flash EE firmware to enable Wi-Fi calling but I'm not sure if it's still possible using Odin as the uk phones have different chipsets.
Can anyone confirm either way?
Thanks in advance.
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flash exynos rom on snapdragon , great idea if you want a brick. No joke, it won't work for sure. and if you flash the Exynos firmware with odin , including bootloader , it would be an hard brick, won't turn on , no more recovery or download mode, just completely bricked. So just no. and wifi calling is nothing to do with the phone but with your carrier and or your current subscription. if your carrier doesn't support wifi calling you won't have that option, so other firmware or even force to show that option changes nothing as you would have the same carrier .
and of course a csc (firmware depend of the country) works only with the right SIM card , I mean samsung block the phone if you use an American SIM card on a European phone. European phone works only with European SIM card and European carrier
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The phone does work ok here in the UK along with 4g. I don't expect to get. As good coverage though. Are you sure it wouldn't work?
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Trying to flash an EE UK firmware that's designed for exynos variant will fail, the 2 aren't compatible, so whatever you have with it you are u unfortunately stuck with
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Trying to flash an EE UK firmware that's designed for exynos variant will fail, the 2 aren't compatible, so whatever you have with it you are u unfortunately stuck with
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OK thanks very much for your help.
Regards
Simon
sjred_uk said:
OK thanks very much for your help.
Regards
Simon
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Out of curiosity, what sim is in there atm?
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Out of curiosity, what sim is in there atm?
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It's an unlocked phone no sim card with it. It says unlocked on the box. The model number is smg955u1
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It's an unlocked phone no sim card with it. It says unlocked on the box. The model number is smg955u1
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Sorry I just realised what you meant.
It's got my EE SIM in it.
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Sorry I just realised what you meant.
It's got my EE SIM in it.
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Ah okay cool, Have you checked if it's ever been rooted at all at any point?
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Snapdragon variant phones don't support the band's here in the UK so I don't think it will work. Vice versa an exynos variant won't work in the US
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Dude what?
http://m.gsmarena.com/network-bands.php3?sCountry=United+Kingdom
https://www.frequencycheck.com/mode...-sm-g950u1-sm-g950w-samsung-dream#frequencies
Supports all 3 lte bands used by the UK, 800 1800 and 2600.
Supports all 3 GSM bands used by the UK.
Supports all 3 utsm bands used by the UK.
So in other words you were 100% incorrect
All of the high end phones have been quad band in the us for years.
I really hope this guy didn't just blindly listen to you and dump his phone for cheap.
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I've just bought a galaxy s8 plus on gumtree and just realised it's an American unlocked version. I wanted to flash EE firmware to enable Wi-Fi calling but I'm not sure if it's still possible using Odin as the uk phones have different chipsets.
Can anyone confirm either way?
Thanks in advance.
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The other person could not be more incorrect your phone works fine in the UK, along with every other high end us phone for the last like 10 years
I hope you still have it and didn't dump it for cheap because someone decided to open their big mouth without actually checking that their gut reaction has any basis in reality.
I don't know if there is full CSC support for the UK carriers, but all u1 phones are direct from Samsung and sim unlocked at the factory so you will be able to pop any uk sim in there and be able to use data/sms/voice etc no problem. What provider do you use? I can check my /system/omc directory and see if it's preinstalled by the standard is CSC package.
It's also quite likely that if not you can install the local CSC package that comes with exynos phones on yours. Not only are the other posters 100% wrong about the SD/exynos phones habing incompatible operating systems*, but even if there was a shred of truth to it the CSC package is mostly config files and images and whatnot anyway, so there little execution going on
*It has nothing to do with exynos or snapdragon they are both arm64 lol. If anything it's because Samsung kneecapped them to make sure it wasn't possible for licensing/snapdragon bootloader security or some other stupid thing.
wildermjs8 said:
Dude what?
http://m.gsmarena.com/network-bands.php3?sCountry=United+Kingdom
https://www.frequencycheck.com/mode...-sm-g950u1-sm-g950w-samsung-dream#frequencies
Supports all 3 lte bands used by the UK, 800 1800 and 2600.
Supports all 3 GSM bands used by the UK.
Supports all 3 utsm bands used by the UK.
So in other words you were 100% incorrect
All of the high end phones have been quad band in the us for years.
I really hope this guy didn't just blindly listen to you and dump his phone for cheap.
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The other person could not be more incorrect your phone works fine in the UK, along with every other high end us phone for the last like 10 years
I hope you still have it and didn't dump it for cheap because someone decided to open their big mouth without actually checking that their gut reaction has any basis in reality.
I don't know if there is full CSC support for the UK carriers, but all u1 phones are direct from Samsung and sim unlocked at the factory so you will be able to pop any uk sim in there and be able to use data/sms/voice etc no problem. What provider do you use? I can check my /system/omc directory and see if it's preinstalled by the standard is CSC package.
It's also quite likely that if not you can install the local CSC package that comes with exynos phones on yours. Not only are the other posters 100% wrong about the SD/exynos phones habing incompatible operating systems*, but even if there was a shred of truth to it the CSC package is mostly config files and images and whatnot anyway, so there little execution going on
*It has nothing to do with exynos or snapdragon they are both arm64 lol. If anything it's because Samsung kneecapped them to make sure it wasn't possible for licensing/snapdragon bootloader security or some other stupid thing.
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Hi
Thank you so much for taking the time to write such a long and in depth reply.
I did reply to the guys post earlier stating that it the phone works absolutely fine on 4g LTE. I just thought he misunderstood me. Or vise versa. I've not dumped the phone because it works fine. Even if I can't get WiFi calling sorted I will still be keeping it. As long as I can still get updates ota I will be happy..
I bought a note 5 a few months ago not realising it was an AT and T model. That was a pain because it was stuck on lollipop and wouldn't accept any ota updates without an AT AND T sim card.
So I was just a bit wary of that happening again. But with this phone being unlocked I'm sure updates will be just the same as UK phones. (hopefully).
Just for the record my phone is running on E.E. carrier.
I've not checked if it's ever been rooted before.
How would I check?
Would a root checker app do this?
Thanks again
Simon.
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Ah okay cool, Have you checked if it's ever been rooted at all at any point?
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Hi
The phone is not rooted now but I'm not sure how to check if the phone has been rooted before in the past.
Thanks
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Hi
The phone is not rooted now but I'm not sure how to check if the phone has been rooted before in the past.
Thanks
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There is no way to tell if the phone has been system rooted which is all that you can do to the us s8
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I've just bought a galaxy s8 plus on gumtree and just realised it's an American unlocked version. I wanted to flash EE firmware to enable Wi-Fi calling but I'm not sure if it's still possible using Odin as the uk phones have different chipsets.
Can anyone confirm either way?
Thanks in advance.
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I bought my Galaxy S8 from New York, after a while I realized that my phone is US unlocked version, now I live in UK and I don't get any updates for my phone at all since last year, I tried to flash it but it didn't work.
Hi,
I got myself a refurbished Samsung Galaxy S7 (flat) but after small examination I realized that there are a lot of inconsistencies, After some research I didn't find out a clear scenario from anyone else so I decided to share with all you so that may be one can help me figuring this one out.
So at the back of the phone its written SM-G930T, while when opening About Device under Settings the model number is SM-G930F. But also everywhere there is a taste of Verizon software (example under Access Point Names there is one APN which is disabled with name "LTE - Verizon Internet with APN VZWINTERNET).
Antutu results range around 132420 to 135500 and it reads the following under My Device:
SM-G930F
Basic Info:
Brand: Verizon
Model: SM-G930F
Device: heroqltevzw
Board: msm8996
Hardware: qcom
Android: 6.0.1(64bit)
Renderer : Adreno(TM) 530
Resolution: 1440 x 2560
Rear: 12.2MP
Storage:
RAM 3307MB
System Storage: 22.83GB
CPU
Architecture: Qualcomm Kryo LP
Type: 64-bot
CPU Cores : 4
CPU Clock Range: 1190.4 ~2150.4MHz
CPU-Z also state the same like Antutu.
What I want to know is if there is anyone else with situation like mine, and how to go about when you want to update to Nougat or which ROM should I consider using in any case of failure, say bricking this device.
Thank you in advance.
Jonius said:
Hi,
I got myself a refurbished Samsung Galaxy S7 (flat) but after small examination I realized that there are a lot of inconsistencies, After some research I didn't find out a clear scenario from anyone else so I decided to share with all you so that may be one can help me figuring this one out.
So at the back of the phone its written SM-G930T, while when opening About Device under Settings the model number is SM-G930F. But also everywhere there is a taste of Verizon software (example under Access Point Names there is one APN which is disabled with name "LTE - Verizon Internet with APN VZWINTERNET).
Antutu results range around 132420 to 135500 and it reads the following under My Device:
SM-G930F
Basic Info:
Brand: Verizon
Model: SM-G930F
Device: heroqltevzw
Board: msm8996
Hardware: qcom
Android: 6.0.1(64bit)
Renderer : Adreno(TM) 530
Resolution: 1440 x 2560
Rear: 12.2MP
Storage:
RAM 3307MB
System Storage: 22.83GB
CPU
Architecture: Qualcomm Kryo LP
Type: 64-bot
CPU Cores : 4
CPU Clock Range: 1190.4 ~2150.4MHz
CPU-Z also state the same like Antutu.
What I want to know is if there is anyone else with situation like mine, and how to go about when you want to update to Nougat or which ROM should I consider using in any case of failure, say bricking this device.
Thank you in advance.
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Also I should mention that I'm not in US, and this phone is unlocked and I'm using gsm simcard and it works perfectly.
Boot into download mode to find the actual model number.
Hello, I actually have a similar example with my SM-930A. This phone is also factory refurbished and I as well had some suspicions. I RAN my IMEI# against imei.info.com to see if it was blacklisted. It gave me SM-G930F (SM-G930A). The problem is G930F is the international Exynos model and G930A is the USA Qualcomm model. They have different chipsets with different cores. I get mixed readings with different HW info apps including CPU-Z as if it's a hybrid between the two. The further I investigated, I found Verizon apps, IPhone apps and a suspicion that the firmware for ATT was flashed onto an International model but is using swapper and linker to hide it. I know it sounds crazy.
Youngster82 said:
Hello, I actually have a similar example with my SM-930A. This phone is also factory refurbished and I as well had some suspicions. I RAN my IMEI# against imei.info.com to see if it was blacklisted. It gave me SM-G930F (SM-G930A). The problem is G930F is the international Exynos model and G930A is the USA Qualcomm model. They have different chipsets with different cores. I get mixed readings with different HW info apps including CPU-Z as if it's a hybrid between the two. The further I investigated, I found Verizon apps, IPhone apps and a suspicion that the firmware for ATT was flashed onto an International model but is using swapper and linker to hide it. I know it sounds crazy.
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The hardware is NOT the same -- firmware is incompatible:
I don't think you can successfully flash the North American Qualcomm based firmware onto the Exynos hardware or vice-versa. At best it would give you an error, at worst it could brick the device. They are two completely different processors on different motherboards, and use different other hardware as well (power regulation chips, radio chips, etc).
What may have happened is that someone found a way to overwrite the model number and/or possibly the 3 character Samsung CSC (customer service code) code(s) in your refurbished phone. If the hardware says it is Qualcomm processor, then it probably is a North American hardware version of the S7.
Handy free hardware information tool for Samsung smartphones:
I use a free hardware information tool called "Phone Info *Samsung*" written by vndnguyen which is available on the Google Play store. It shows not only the phone model number, but the CSC codes, the date of manufacture, hardware, and all available sensor data. You might want to install it and see what that app finds. It has a few ads, but they are unobtrusive. Hint: disable notifications for it if you don't want to get "tips" from the author.
Discussion of hardware in North American models:
Note that the hardware for all the North American models is identical (with the exception of one Canadian carrier that uses the European/Asian version of the phone), and they all have the same Qualcomm processors and chipsets. All that differentiates them is the firmware and CSC code that is flashed onto them. The NA motherboards all have "SM-G930V/P/R4/A/T" printed on them. The cellular radios on the NA motherboard include the GSM radio bands used in North America and they also include a radio for the CDMA bands used in North America. IIRC, the GSM bands cover most but not all of the European/Asian GSM radio spectrum, so the phones should work outside North America, but possibly won't get quite as good reception as the European motherboard would get. One last comment about the NA version of the phone: If the phone has been carrier unlocked, it is possible to flash any of the various NA S7 carrier's firmware or the factory unlocked G930U firmware onto it. I have personally tested this. Flashing the G930U firmware onto a NA phone is a great way to get rid of all the carrier-installed "bloatware" apps, leaving only the Samsung interface and apps and the Android apps. However, flashing different firmware onto a phone does NOT carrier unlock the phone -- I found that out by trying it (the phone booted up, but when a non-original-carrier SIM was installed, it asked for and required a SIM carrier unlock code).
Discussion of hardware in European/Asian models:
The European/Asian version of the hardware is, as you mentioned, different than the North American version, and uses a Samsung manufactured Exynos processor and related chipset, and other hardware is different as well -- including the antennas, loudspeaker, and charging daughterboard. Interestingly, the European/Asian motherboards have "SM-G930FD SM-G930F/W8" printed on them, possibly indicating that the difference between the G930F and G930FD motherboards is, similarly to the NA motherboards, only the firmware and CSC code -- the actual hardware may be the same (other than the G930FD SIM tray which is capable of holding a 2nd SIM card OR a Micro-SD card). My understanding is that the European/Asian models do NOT have the capability to connect to CDMA networks -- and only will work on GSM networks. Again, IIRC, the GSM radio spectrum is slightly different in Europe/Asia and North America. However, I do know that the G930F and G930FD models will work in North America on the GSM networks, again, possibly with some reduced reception due to band differences. I have personally tested this by putting a US T-Mobile SIM into a G930FD phone I repaired and it worked well.
I have 3 questions for you folks in Europe or Asia that repair the G930F/G930FD phones:
1. Would you please clarify whether or not the motherboards for the SM-G930F and SM-G930FD are actually identical and only the firmware and CSC codes (and SIM tray) differentiate the two?
2. If a European/Asian phone has been carrier unlocked, can a different version of the European/Asian firmware be flashed onto it?
3. Are there factory unlocked versions of the firmware that have no carrier "bloatware" apps for the SM-G930F and SM-G930FD? If there are, please identify what they are, and supply links where to find them. I am not talking about custom builds -- but rather genuine Samsung firmware that is not carrier specific.
I hope this helps to clarify things a bit.
Philip
phreich said:
Note that the hardware for all the North American models is identical (with the exception of one Canadian carrier that uses the European/Asian version of the phone), and they all have the same Qualcomm processors and chipsets. All that differentiates them is the firmware and CSC code that is flashed onto them.
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Sorry to be "that guy" but the US models are Qualcomm-based while all Canadian SM-G930W8 models are Exynos-based, so there is no "North American" model for the S7.
As far as I'm aware, booting an S7 into Download mode is the closest thing to a foolproof method for determining the true model of the motherboard in the phone, no matter what the label, Android, or any system info apps tell you.
Hello guys, following up your comments, here are the results of phone info *Samsung*
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Details under download mode are as follow
ODIN MODE (HIGH SPEED)
PRODUCT NAME : SM-G930V
CURRENT BINARY : Samsung Official
SYSTEM STATUS : Official
FAP LOCK : ON
QUALCOMM SECURE BOOT : ENABLED
RP SWREV : BE(2,1,1,1,1) K1 S3
SECURE DOWNLOAD : ENABLED
Sm-930v is the Verizon s7: https://www.samsung.com/us/business/support/owners/product/galaxy-s7-verizon/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...ot-guide-verizon-s7-s7-edge-sm-g930v-t3411015
audit13 said:
Sm-930v is the Verizon s7: https://www.samsung.com/us/business/support/owners/product/galaxy-s7-verizon/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...ot-guide-verizon-s7-s7-edge-sm-g930v-t3411015
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So just to make sure I understand your well, this phone has to be a Verizon variant even though at the back of the phone under glass is written SM-G930T?
Does the imei on the box or other labels match the imei when dialing *#06#?
Based on what is shown in download mode, the motherboard is from a Verizon s7 sm-g930v.
Bootloader from Samsung info screen begins with g930v too.
Jonius said:
So just to make sure I understand your well, this phone has to be a Verizon variant even though at the back of the phone under glass is written SM-G930T?
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All firmware is the same. I have the "t" varient, now running the "a" varient for Oreo, but I always run the "u" varient cause less bloat. Someone made a detailed post earlier, might have been to long to read.
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audit13 said:
Boot into download mode to find the actual model number.
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That's not true at all. I'm running the att Oreo beta on cricket that was branded sm-g930t. Download mode shows it's the "a" varient now. When running "u", you bet it also says "u", same with any firmware, if I flash "v", it'll say "v"
Sorry if my posts were not clear. I was referring to USA s7 models with Qualcomm processors. Canada and other parts of the world are using Exynos versions.
From the original post, Antutu reports the phone as being a sm-g930f and, as far as I know, there is no 930f for the USA: https://www.sammobile.com/devices/galaxy-s7/specs/SM-G930F/.
I wanted the OP to confirm the model # before flashing files (either for Qualcomm or Exynos) and a quick way to do that is in download mode.
Okay,
Thank you everyone for your contributions so far, I am actually getting the picture of what I have with me.
These are the information I have with this phone and from your input the finding so far:
The phone got SM-G930T at the back hence T-Mobile variant
Under Download mode it says this phone is Verizon variant
Under some settings like APN there are some bits of Verizon like Verizon APN - Hence Verizon variant
Under About Phone, the model number is SM-G930F ( I believe the one who flashed this phone they knew they wanted it to end up in international market, hence they found a way of making the model number looks like its an international model (SM-G930F)
The details of IMEI under imei under imei.info gives this result: G930F GALAXY S7 (SM-G930T) - Which gives more questions than answers.
What I believe right now is this is Qualcomm variant phone with Qualcomm chipset.
Now I really wanna know if which latest ROM I can flash to get the latest possible Android version in here! Say Android 7.1.1 or Android 8, etc. But something stable because this is now my main and only phone I got.
Thanks again for all your inputs and contributions.
If I were in your situation, I would flash the latest stock Verizon ROM since the model number is sm-g930v.
Before flashing, I recommend testing the phone to ensure it functions with your carrier. If it doesn't, I would contact the vendor.
Jonius said:
Okay,
Thank you everyone for your contributions so far, I am actually getting the picture of what I have with me.
These are the information I have with this phone and from your input the finding so far:
The phone got SM-G930T at the back hence T-Mobile variant
Under Download mode it says this phone is Verizon variant
Under some settings like APN there are some bits of Verizon like Verizon APN - Hence Verizon variant
Under About Phone, the model number is SM-G930F ( I believe the one who flashed this phone they knew they wanted it to end up in international market, hence they found a way of making the model number looks like its an international model (SM-G930F)
The details of IMEI under imei under imei.info gives this result: G930F GALAXY S7 (SM-G930T) - Which gives more questions than answers.
What I believe right now is this is Qualcomm variant phone with Qualcomm chipset.
Now I really wanna know if which latest ROM I can flash to get the latest possible Android version in here! Say Android 7.1.1 or Android 8, etc. But something stable because this is now my main and only phone I got.
Thanks again for all your inputs and contributions.
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If you think it's amerian latest is 7.0 with 8.0 coming next month. I'd recommend the "u" firmware, less bloat and less warning messages, like hitting airplane mode is one tap, not two cause a warning pops up
audit13 said:
Does the imei on the box or other labels match the imei when dialing *#06#?
Based on what is shown in download mode, the motherboard is from a Verizon s7 sm-g930v.
Bootloader from Samsung info screen begins with g930v too.
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audit13 said:
If I were in your situation, I would flash the latest stock Verizon ROM since the model number is sm-g930v.
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I'm not using Verizon line, I'm using Tigo line (Africa/Tanzania), so I'm not sure what Verizon ROM will do to this phone, whether will render this phone useless or because its now working then after flashing Verizon ROM it will continue working even though the SIM card is not Verizon SIM?
audit13 said:
Before flashing, I recommend testing the phone to ensure it functions with your carrier. If it doesn't, I would contact the vendor.
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How do I test the phone to ensure the functionality with my carrier?
I think my situation is a bit complicated, there is no vendor, no warranty, I can do whatever I want with this phone, the only problem is whatever I do I have to be careful and sure that I won't brick this phone as it is my only phone right now.
All I want to do is to flash it with the latest android version
Put a sim card in the phone and make a call, receive a call, turn on wifi, turn on data, send a text, receive a text, take a picture, take a video, and insert an SD card.
Can someone suggest the right ROM which is latest and stable for my phone? Which is official but without any carrier bloatware?
The one I'm having right now got no carrier bloatware, only inactive verizon APN, and also got Samsung Apps which is okay with me (After start using S Health I found it a little bit interesting).
Jonius said:
Can someone suggest the right ROM which is latest and stable for my phone? Which is official but without any carrier bloatware?
The one I'm having right now got no carrier bloatware, only inactive verizon APN, and also got Samsung Apps which is okay with me (After start using S Health I found it a little bit interesting).
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Go to sammobile, write your phone model and get the lastest firmware available, select the default one without bloat and don't forget to disable frp lock before flashing.
Ok i'm sick of paying 1k for a Samsung exynos phone that's inferior to the SD855 and listening to the SD owners gloating they have a better phone on youtube etc.. I have even heard the Exynos S10 9820 is slower than the S9 SD 845 FFS!
I live in Ireland and we get the Exynos version. So if i went on Samsung USA website and preorder an UNLOCKED Note 10+ by Paypal ( they give that option). Have it sent to my cousins house in the USA ( I'll be visiting in the next couple of months). Put her sim card inside and get her to make that 10 minute call. Bring back to Ireland and good to go?
Micky 22 said:
Ok i'm sick of paying 1k for a Samsung exynos phone that's inferior to the SD855 and listening to the SD owners gloating they have a better phone on youtube etc.. I have even heard the Exynos S10 9820 is slower than the S9 SD 845 FFS!
I live in Ireland and we get the Exynos version. So if i went on Samsung USA website and preorder an UNLOCKED Note 10+ by Paypal ( they give that option). Have it sent to my cousins house in the USA ( I'll be visiting in the next couple of months). Put her sim card inside and get her to make that 10 minute call. Bring back to Ireland and good to go?
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I don't see why not... It's an unlocked phone. Just make sure the bands match up with your carrier
Samzebian said:
I don't see why not... It's an unlocked phone. Just make sure the bands match up with your carrier
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Thanks for the reply. Yeah i have found ( with the S10 phones anyway) that the unlocked versions directly from Samsung USA have the most bands and the ones i need. The carrier branded ATAT and T MOBILE phones have less bands.
Micky 22 said:
Ok i'm sick of paying 1k for a Samsung exynos phone that's inferior to the SD855 and listening to the SD owners gloating they have a better phone on youtube etc.. I have even heard the Exynos S10 9820 is slower than the S9 SD 845 FFS!
I live in Ireland and we get the Exynos version. So if i went on Samsung USA website and preorder an UNLOCKED Note 10+ by Paypal ( they give that option). Have it sent to my cousins house in the USA ( I'll be visiting in the next couple of months). Put her sim card inside and get her to make that 10 minute call. Bring back to Ireland and good to go?
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Lol the note doesnt even use the 9820 its running the new 9825 exynos anyway so your complaint makes no sense.
Also hope you realize the the US snapdragons are all BL locked and the exynos is not.
force70 said:
Lol the note doesnt even use the 9820 its running the new 9825 exynos anyway so your complaint makes no sense.
Also hope you realize the the US snapdragons are all BL locked and the exynos is not.
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I know it uses the 9825 but it's still not up to the 855 and it uses the crap Mali GPU so my " complaint " is a valid one. BL locked? You mean regarding rooting? I have no interest in rooting to be honest.
But do they notice the differences in a real world testing instead of how many it can perform floating point calculus which is totally irrelevant?
If social media subjective opinions matter to you, do the Exynos version also tend to be more battery friendly which is quite more important than the few seconds that it will take to unzip a archive.
(Yes I'm a bit sarcastic.)
Nastrahl said:
But do they notice the differences in a real world testing instead of how many it can perform floating point calculus which is totally irrelevant?
If social media subjective opinions matter to you, do the Exynos version also tend to be more battery friendly which is quite more important than the few seconds that it will take to unzip a archive.
(Yes I'm a bit sarcastic.)
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On the S10+ SD the battery will still have 20% when the exynos version runs out, according to Supersaf on youtube. Anyway the phone will work out cheaper for me from the USA.
Sort of seems like you already know what you want to do. Yeah, long as the bands match up with your carrier, you're good.
Nastrahl said:
But do they notice the differences in a real world testing instead of how many it can perform floating point calculus which is totally irrelevant?
If social media subjective opinions matter to you, do the Exynos version also tend to be more battery friendly which is quite more important than the few seconds that it will take to unzip a archive.
(Yes I'm a bit sarcastic.)
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I think you have that a little bit backwards because the Snapdragon version has better battery life than the Exynos. I have the S10+ Snapdragon version just check the forms over there.
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Lol the note doesnt even use the 9820 its running the new 9825 exynos anyway so your complaint makes no sense.
Also hope you realize the the US snapdragons are all BL locked and the exynos is not.
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People still root phones? Man it's like 2011 all over again. Android is pretty mature, I personally haven't had the need for root in like 4 years lol.
The answer to the thread start is quite simply, YES. Simple ask and answer.
Micky 22 said:
Ok i'm sick of paying 1k for a Samsung exynos phone that's inferior to the SD855 and listening to the SD owners gloating they have a better phone on youtube etc.. I have even heard the Exynos S10 9820 is slower than the S9 SD 845 FFS!
I live in Ireland and we get the Exynos version. So if i went on Samsung USA website and preorder an UNLOCKED Note 10+ by Paypal ( they give that option). Have it sent to my cousins house in the USA ( I'll be visiting in the next couple of months). Put her sim card inside and get her to make that 10 minute call. Bring back to Ireland and good to go?
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1) Why would you need to make 10 min call in the USA?
2) The unlocked model has mostly USA CSC codes in the firmware. Which carrier do you use in Ireland?
Semantics said:
People still root phones? Man it's like 2011 all over again. Android is pretty mature, I personally haven't had the need for root in like 4 years lol.
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Well this is still XDA and yes there is still lots of development ongoing.
Charkatak said:
1) Why would you need to make 10 min call in the USA?
2) The unlocked model has mostly USA CSC codes in the firmware. Which carrier do you use in Ireland?
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1. Phones from different regions are usually region locked. By using a sim from the country a phone is bought and making a call for approx 10 mins usually unlocks it.
2. Vodafone Ireland.
Micky 22 said:
1. Phones from different regions are usually region locked. By using a sim from the country a phone is bought and making a call for approx 10 mins usually unlocks it.
2. Vodafone Ireland.
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Hmm, could it be that the "region lock" is mainly for EU countries, as I have not seen this on US unlocked phone, then just were unlocked
The US unlocked models have the following CSC codes in the firmware: ATT, SPR, TMB, TMK, USC, VZW, XAA and a few others. I wounder if the phone's firmware doesn't have sim card's CSC in it, how will the phone properly configure the carrier's features/settings.
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Charkatak said:
Hmm, could it be that the "region lock" is mainly for EU countries, as I have not seen this on US unlocked phone, then just were unlocked
The US unlocked models have the following CSC codes in the firmware: ATT, SPR, TMB, TMK, USC, VZW, XAA and a few others. I wounder if the phone's firmware doesn't have sim card's CSC in it, how will the phone properly configure the carrier's features/settings.
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All the better if no region lock..
Vodafone Irelands CSC is VDI. However my S10+ is on BTU ( unlocked UK/IRL). The phone works perfectly on BTU ( even VoLTE/VoWiFi works). I had a Note 9 from Asia somewhere and it worked perfectly too (not sure about VoLTE because my network didn't support it at the time...)
I know i may have problems with wifi calling on the USA model but i can live without it. What would the USA unlocked CSC be anyone know?
Micky 22 said:
All the better if no region lock..
Vodafone Irelands CSC is VDI. However my S10+ is on BTU ( unlocked UK/IRL). The phone works perfectly on BTU ( even VoLTE/VoWiFi works). I had a Note 9 from Asia somewhere and it worked perfectly too (not sure about VoLTE because my network didn't support it at the time...)
I know i may have problems with wifi calling on the USA model but i can live without it. What would the USA unlocked CSC be anyone know?
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It is XAA, but once you put in the sim card that is included in the firmware, then it will refresh sim data and activate CSC from the sim. So in my case, I use TMB(T-Mobile) and from XAA, the phone switches to TMB after I put in the sim
Interestingly my carriers network isn't listed in "available CSC codes" on the UK/IRL unlocked model on Phone Info. My girlfriend who is on the same network as me bought a phone through the carrier and it's on the unlocked BTU csc.
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Well this is still XDA and yes there is still lots of development ongoing.
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I totally understand that. I also realize that the improvements are not nearly as necessary as they used to be when Android was a gross mess and needed Devs to really make it run. It's a mature phone OS and most of the development going on is really minor stuff. I do appreciate that people are still interested in flashing ROM's and things like that, the community stays alive, although not nearly as robust as it used to be.
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On the S10+ SD the battery will still have 20% when the exynos version runs out, according to Supersaf on youtube. Anyway the phone will work out cheaper for me from the USA.
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bp328i said:
I think you have that a little bit backwards because the Snapdragon version has better battery life than the Exynos. I have the S10+ Snapdragon version just check the forms over there.
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Sorry I'm certainly wrong indeed because I only compared with what it is said about the Note 9.
I'm still unsure about if it's really relevant to compare the S with the Notes series. ?