Looking to see if there is any ability to get the right capacitive key to do anything other than switch/clear open apps? I sure do miss being able to hit the right key on my old phone and it would typically bring up menu options for whatever app you happened to be in and also a shortcut into your settings when on one of the home screens. What a PITA having to go up to the top right side of each app, hit the 3 little menu dots and change menu options that way.
Anybody figure any work-arounds or other 3rd party apps that can help out with this?
It would be nice if Alcatel would allow the right capacitive key to access the settings or menu of an app with a long hold of the button. Short hold of the button accesses the open apps. That would be intuitive. My old phone was the opposite, a short tap would open a backdoor to menu options and a long hold would open the active apps for dismissal or switch.
Very much an extra effort reaching up to the right when in Chrome to have to go to your bookmarks...that's just one example.
Any 3rd party launchers include something of this ability?
Also a PITA having to reach allllllll the way up to the top of the phone to pull down the notification panel. My old phone with KK 4.4.4 all you had to do was slide down anywhere on the home screen and the notification panel would come down. Vice versa, sliding up on a home screen would open the backdoor to your settings menu.
These are my two biggest *****es 24 hours into having this phone. Everything else I've tried so far seems pretty good.
I can propose solutions to two of your problems ..
(a) For bookmarks, could a bookmark widget help ? I believe Chrome has its own , but you could also use the stock widget and have it open any browser. Of course this only works in you are not already inside the browser. You can also try a browser with gestures. I think dolphin can do that.
(b) For the notification shade, you can use a launcher than offers a swipe down gesture. I use Apex which has gestures for free, and I have swipe down set for the notification shade.
Cool, thanks! Hopefully Alcatel is taking notes for future updates?
Did your phone have a custom room or Launcher? Those are not standard gestures for kit kat or stick Launcher.
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Hello! I thought I should share a fairly simple solution to what I think is the Galaxy S8's worst feature: the navigation bar. I'm all for the bigger screen ratio but with such a large portion of the bottom end constantly covered by the navigation keys, I found myself nostalgic for my old S6's soft keys. Samsung's update to allow hiding of the navigation keys worked to an extent, but I found swiping up just to press the back key quite frustrating. This paired with the fact that there was no way to get the nav bar off the home screen and the S8's inability to use swipe gestures through apps like Pie Control or All in one Gestures was infuriating. Here is my solution to the problem.
Disclaimer: Please follow the steps in order as the apk listed will completely disable the navigation bar. There will be no way to navigate your device if you do not follow the prior steps. All credit for the apk listed goes to Tigerhoods. Thank you so much for your work.
1. Download the apps All in one Gestures, Pie Control, and App Cloner. Each app is essential to properly setting up this workaround.
2. Enable each app to use accessibility services.
3. Go into Pie Control and set up the bottom edge with a pie that has the back key, home, and recents. This will act temporarily as your navigation bar once the apk is installed. To set up Pie Control: turn on the bottom edge, go to level1 of edge, set up button 1, 2, and 3 with recents, home, and back nav keys (these nav settings are found under the Tools menu), and click the plus in the bottom right corner to save. Make sure everything is fully set up before proceeding.
4. Download this apk:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4188536&d=1497996764
Again, all credit for this download goes to Tigerhood. Amazing work.
Restart your device after installing to have the APK take effect.
This apk will completely disable the nav bar. To complete the following steps you will use Pie Control to use the back, home, and recents keys. If you wish to get the navbar back, simply go into settings, go into apps, scroll down to com.whalesplaho.frameworkresov..., click on it, and uninstall. I highly recommend completing all the steps before going back to the crappy built-in navigation bar.
5. Now that there is no longer a navigation bar and your phone is more beautiful than ever, it's time to set up a more permanent navigation bar. Go into All in one Gesture and enable swiping (make sure to allow it to use accessibility features: go into settings, accessibility, turn on for All in one Gesture). Turn on bottom area and set it to back (or recents if you prefer Samsung's style of navigating). Swipe from the left side of the screen to open the hamburger menu (or press the three lines to the left of the apps name at the top o the screen). Go into Personization then Edge Preference. I suggest you use my settings, but feel free to adjust to your own tastes once you get a feel for the app.
Opacity: 0%
Corner Size: 75px
Edge Sensitivity: 40px
Edge Width: 20%
Horizontal Offset: -20% (Make this a negative value so that it goes to the left!)
Vertical Offset: 20%
Swipe Distance: 0px
This will allow the bottom left of your screen to become the back (or recents) key. You can either swipe up from the bottom left or tap right where the bezel meets the screen. If it's too sensitive, turn the Edge Sensitivity setting down. If you wish to only use swipe and not be able to tap the key, turn up the Swipe Distance setting. If you accidentally hit the keys while typing (I rarely do), simply turn on Behind Keyboard under Personalization.
You may which to turn the opacity up at first so that you know where to press/swipe.
6. Since All in one Gesture only allows the bottom to be used for one setting, we must clone the app to make a virtual key for the other side of the bottom. Go into App Cloner, find All in one Gesture, press flip icon (to make it recognizable as the cloned app), and name it All in one Gesture2 (or something of the sort). Once the app is cloned, find it on your home screen and follow the same instructions laid out in step 5. One key difference: make sure to put the Horizontal Offset as 20% (this will move the virtual key to the right instead of the left). Also in Personalization, under General, I suggest turning on the light theme so you can tell the difference between the cloned and original app.
7. Now that the back and recents keys are set up, customize Pie Control to your liking. I like having the entirety of level 1 be a home key so that it is super easy to access.
8. Enjoy using your s8 the way it should be used.
Issues:
-The hard press home key does not work when the screen is on.
-Pie Control and All in one Gesture only work when the device is unlocked. If you go into Bixby, Camera, or one of the App Shortcuts on the left and right of your lockscreen it may seem impossible to get out of without a navigation bar/home button. To get out of the app you are in simply pull down the notifications shade and click on the settings icon. You will then be prompted to enter your password. Once the device is unlocked you can use Pie Control/All in one Gesture to navigate normally. UPDATE: If you have a Bixby remapper app you can enable the Bixby button to be used as a back button. I use BxActions and it works perfectly.
If for some reason the apk doesnt download, here is the thread I found it on:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...y-overlays-t3604341/post72746018#post72746018
The apk is found on page 84.
I hope this helps! Let me know if you have any feedback or get stuck on any of the steps.
Thanks for sharing. However, I use a much simpler solution: I've installed BxActions and am always one click away from full immersive mode. I got rid of the "point" soft button too - don't need it anymore.
yes as last post said since June or July firmware just click on point on the navbar on left and it will be full screen and hidden everywhere except on launcher, just swipe up from the very bottom of the screen to make appear navbar for a few seconds
(this option can be activated or deactivated on settings/display/navigation bar)
robhug said:
yes as last post said since June or July firmware just click on point on the navbar on left and it will be full screen and hidden everywhere except on launcher, just swipe up from the very bottom of the screen to make appear navbar for a few seconds
(this option can be activated or deactivated on settings/display/navigation bar)
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That is a possibility, however, I found it quite annoying having to swipe up and click to use the navigation keys. Also, swipe gestures (Pie Control) don't work and there was no way to get rid of the navigation bar from the home screen. Ultimately, I find this workaround to be much more convenient than Samsung's built-in fullscreen feature.
Thanks for sharing loving it so far ended up paying for app cloner so I could clone it a third time and get rid of pie control all together so much better this way and so far no issues I'll be testing it more and let you know.
This is absolutely brilliant, all without root as well.
Just curious, will it slow down the phone if i have 3 all in one gestures running?
Guitarfreak26 said:
This is absolutely brilliant, all without root as well.
Just curious, will it slow down the phone if i have 3 all in one gestures running?
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It all depends on how much RAM you are using. If you are running a lot of memory intensive applications, you may notice a slight slowdown. I am running a lot of stuff on my phone and have no problems with 2 gestures running. So 3 could work, you just have to test it out.
I suggest testing out Pie Control before setting up a third gesture. Pie Control is the best form of multitasking out there. I have customized mine to get to all my frequently used apps. You can even have shortcuts and system activities (like flashlight). Really useful.
I used to use LMT but that needs root. It's working nicely with a 3rd clone atm.
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Guitarfreak26 said:
This is absolutely brilliant, all without root as well.
Just curious, will it slow down the phone if i have 3 all in one gestures running?
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Haven't noticed any slow down and the phone looks so much better. I prefer the 3rd gesture over pie control simply because of looks. Pie control could be better but I couldn't stand the look of the wheel especially as I just need it as a home button right now. Only problems I've run into is using ultra power saving mode and switching back somehow disables the function of the apk and disables all accessibility services I had previously enabled? Had to restart the phone to get rid of nav bar and turn all accessibility services back on. I'll keep testing it and report back. Somewhat complicated solution but quite elegant in the end result.
Can you provide a screenshot on how this looks like?
rainierzam said:
Can you provide a screenshot on how this looks like?
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The screen looks normal, just without the Navigation Bar and with invisible virtual keys at the bottom bezel.
juliang22 said:
Hello! I thought I should share a fairly simple solution to what I think is the Galaxy S8's worst feature: the navigation bar. I'm all for the bigger screen ratio but with such a large portion of the bottom end constantly covered by the navigation keys, I found myself nostalgic for my old S6's soft keys. Samsung's update to allow hiding of the navigation keys worked to an extent, but I found swiping up just to press the back key quite frustrating. This paired with the fact that there was no way to get the nav bar off the home screen and the S8's inability to use swipe gestures through apps like Pie Control or All in one Gestures was infuriating. Here is my solution to the problem.
Disclaimer: Please follow the steps in order as the apk listed will completely disable the navigation bar. There will be no way to navigate your device if you do not follow the prior steps. All credit for the apk listed goes to Tigerhoods. Thank you so much for your work.
1. Download the apps All in one Gestures, Pie Control, and App Cloner. Each app is essential to properly setting up this workaround.
2. Enable each app to use accessibility services.
3. Go into Pie Control and set up the bottom edge with a pie that has the back key, home, and recents. This will act temporarily as your navigation bar once the apk is installed. To set up Pie Control: turn on the bottom edge, go to level1 of edge, set up button 1, 2, and 3 with recents, home, and back nav keys (these nav settings are found under the Tools menu), and click the plus in the bottom right corner to save. Make sure everything is fully set up before proceeding.
4. Download this apk:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4188536&d=1497996764
Again, all credit for this download goes to Tigerhood. Amazing work.
Restart your device after installing to have the APK take effect.
This apk will completely disable the nav bar. To complete the following steps you will use Pie Control to use the back, home, and recents keys. If you wish to get the navbar back, simply go into settings, go into apps, scroll down to com.whalesplaho.frameworkresov..., click on it, and uninstall. I highly recommend completing all the steps before going back to the crappy built-in navigation bar.
5. Now that there is no longer a navigation bar and your phone is more beautiful than ever, it's time to set up a more permanent navigation bar. Go into All in one Gesture and enable swiping (make sure to allow it to use accessibility features: go into settings, accessibility, turn on for All in one Gesture). Turn on bottom area and set it to back (or recents if you prefer Samsung's style of navigating). Swipe from the left side of the screen to open the hamburger menu (or press the three lines to the left of the apps name at the top o the screen). Go into Personization then Edge Preference. I suggest you use my settings, but feel free to adjust to your own tastes once you get a feel for the app.
Opacity: 0%
Corner Size: 75px
Edge Sensitivity: 40px
Edge Width: 20%
Horizontal Offset: -20% (Make this a negative value so that it goes to the left!)
Vertical Offset: 20%
Swipe Distance: 0px
This will allow the bottom left of your screen to become the back (or recents) key. You can either swipe up from the bottom left or tap right where the bezel meets the screen. If it's too sensitive, turn the Edge Sensitivity setting down. If you wish to only use swipe and not be able to tap the key, turn up the Swipe Distance setting. If you accidentally hit the keys while typing (I rarely do), simply turn on Behind Keyboard under Personalization.
You may which to turn the opacity up at first so that you know where to press/swipe.
6. Since All in one Gesture only allows the bottom to be used for one setting, we must clone the app to make a virtual key for the other side of the bottom. Go into App Cloner, find All in one Gesture, press flip icon (to make it recognizable as the cloned app), and name it All in one Gesture2 (or something of the sort). Once the app is cloned, find it on your home screen and follow the same instructions laid out in step 5. One key difference: make sure to put the Horizontal Offset as 20% (this will move the virtual key to the right instead of the left). Also in Personalization, under General, I suggest turning on the light theme so you can tell the difference between the cloned and original app.
7. Now that the back and recents keys are set up, customize Pie Control to your liking. I like having the entirety of level 1 be a home key so that it is super easy to access.
8. Enjoy using your s8 the way it should be used.
Issues:
-The hard press home key does not work when the screen is on.
-Pie Control and All in one Gesture only work when the device is unlocked. If you go into Bixby, Camera, or one of the App Shortcuts on the left and right of your lockscreen it may seem impossible to get out of without a navigation bar/home button. To get out of the app you are in simply pull down the notifications shade and click on the settings icon. You will then be prompted to enter your password. Once the device is unlocked you can use Pie Control/All in one Gesture to navigate normally.
If for some reason the apk doesnt download, here is the thread I found it on:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...y-overlays-t3604341/post72746018#post72746018
The apk is found on page 84.
I hope this helps! Let me know if you have any feedback or get stuck on any of the steps.
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I use Button Mapper to have Bixby button set up for long press = back button
So I can easily get out of apps like camera launched from lockscreen ?
CrazyCypher said:
I use Button Mapper to have Bixby button set up for long press = back button
So I can easily get out of apps like camera launched from lockscreen ?
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Smart, just tried it and it works perfectly.
and muviz how work ?
Or you guys can just use Swipe Navigation app to use the bottom edge like an invisible nav bar with all three buttons on the bottom edge without having to do all the app cloning stuff.
artikle said:
Or you guys can just use Swipe Navigation app to use the bottom edge like an invisible nav bar with all three buttons on the bottom edge without having to do all the app cloning stuff.
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Yeah, I actually used Swipe Navigation for a bit but I found that it wasn't super reliable for some reason. Kept crashing and then I couldn't navigate my device at all. I find All in one Gesture to be the most reliable gesture app.
i'm using Swipe Navigation without any issues
juliang22 said:
Hello! I thought I should share a fairly simple solution to what I think is the Galaxy S8's worst feature: the navigation bar. I'm all for the bigger screen ratio but with such a large portion of the bottom end constantly covered by the navigation keys, I found myself nostalgic for my old S6's soft keys. Samsung's update to allow hiding of the navigation keys worked to an extent, but I found swiping up just to press the back key quite frustrating. This paired with the fact that there was no way to get the nav bar off the home screen and the S8's inability to use swipe gestures through apps like Pie Control or All in one Gestures was infuriating. Here is my solution to the problem.
Disclaimer: Please follow the steps in order as the apk listed will completely disable the navigation bar. There will be no way to navigate your device if you do not follow the prior steps. All credit for the apk listed goes to Tigerhoods. Thank you so much for your work.
1. Download the apps All in one Gestures, Pie Control, and App Cloner. Each app is essential to properly setting up this workaround.
2. Enable each app to use accessibility services.
3. Go into Pie Control and set up the bottom edge with a pie that has the back key, home, and recents. This will act temporarily as your navigation bar once the apk is installed. To set up Pie Control: turn on the bottom edge, go to level1 of edge, set up button 1, 2, and 3 with recents, home, and back nav keys (these nav settings are found under the Tools menu), and click the plus in the bottom right corner to save. Make sure everything is fully set up before proceeding.
4. Download this apk:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4188536&d=1497996764
Again, all credit for this download goes to Tigerhood. Amazing work.
Restart your device after installing to have the APK take effect.
This apk will completely disable the nav bar. To complete the following steps you will use Pie Control to use the back, home, and recents keys. If you wish to get the navbar back, simply go into settings, go into apps, scroll down to com.whalesplaho.frameworkresov..., click on it, and uninstall. I highly recommend completing all the steps before going back to the crappy built-in navigation bar.
5. Now that there is no longer a navigation bar and your phone is more beautiful than ever, it's time to set up a more permanent navigation bar. Go into All in one Gesture and enable swiping (make sure to allow it to use accessibility features: go into settings, accessibility, turn on for All in one Gesture). Turn on bottom area and set it to back (or recents if you prefer Samsung's style of navigating). Swipe from the left side of the screen to open the hamburger menu (or press the three lines to the left of the apps name at the top o the screen). Go into Personization then Edge Preference. I suggest you use my settings, but feel free to adjust to your own tastes once you get a feel for the app.
Opacity: 0%
Corner Size: 75px
Edge Sensitivity: 40px
Edge Width: 20%
Horizontal Offset: -20% (Make this a negative value so that it goes to the left!)
Vertical Offset: 20%
Swipe Distance: 0px
This will allow the bottom left of your screen to become the back (or recents) key. You can either swipe up from the bottom left or tap right where the bezel meets the screen. If it's too sensitive, turn the Edge Sensitivity setting down. If you wish to only use swipe and not be able to tap the key, turn up the Swipe Distance setting. If you accidentally hit the keys while typing (I rarely do), simply turn on Behind Keyboard under Personalization.
You may which to turn the opacity up at first so that you know where to press/swipe.
6. Since All in one Gesture only allows the bottom to be used for one setting, we must clone the app to make a virtual key for the other side of the bottom. Go into App Cloner, find All in one Gesture, press flip icon (to make it recognizable as the cloned app), and name it All in one Gesture2 (or something of the sort). Once the app is cloned, find it on your home screen and follow the same instructions laid out in step 5. One key difference: make sure to put the Horizontal Offset as 20% (this will move the virtual key to the right instead of the left). Also in Personalization, under General, I suggest turning on the light theme so you can tell the difference between the cloned and original app.
7. Now that the back and recents keys are set up, customize Pie Control to your liking. I like having the entirety of level 1 be a home key so that it is super easy to access.
8. Enjoy using your s8 the way it should be used.
Issues:
-The hard press home key does not work when the screen is on.
-Pie Control and All in one Gesture only work when the device is unlocked. If you go into Bixby, Camera, or one of the App Shortcuts on the left and right of your lockscreen it may seem impossible to get out of without a navigation bar/home button. To get out of the app you are in simply pull down the notifications shade and click on the settings icon. You will then be prompted to enter your password. Once the device is unlocked you can use Pie Control/All in one Gesture to navigate normally. UPDATE: If you have a Bixby remapper app you can enable the Bixby button to be used as a back button. I use BxActions and it works perfectly.
If for some reason the apk doesnt download, here is the thread I found it on:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...y-overlays-t3604341/post72746018#post72746018
The apk is found on page 84.
I hope this helps! Let me know if you have any feedback or get stuck on any of the steps.
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I just use force press for home with all in one gesture swipe from left for recent and swipe from fright from back. Feels more of a natural extension to the OS ( used BBOS10 device as my messenger before upgrading to a PRIV)
anybody still use this?
the Samsung launcher and some Samsung apps like Gallery doesn't like with the removal of nav bar, for example the dock is still on the same spot even though there is no nav bar(used to be on the very bottom).
any workaround?
Devoct said:
anybody still use this?
the Samsung launcher and some Samsung apps like Gallery doesn't like with the removal of nav bar, for example the dock is still on the same spot even though there is no nav bar(used to be on the very bottom).
any workaround?
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Install this and restart....and no more navbar...thank me later
Prefer the navigation buttons but,wish you could hide them all,or,on a per-app basis ? (no such animal on this phone as-is,unlike LG's,one of the nice touches LG pulls off flawlessly)
There's a few apps in the Google Play Store that do just this & no root required.
I'm using this one,but,have used others w/similar results:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.damianpiwowarski.navbarapps
This one I've used as well,works flawlessly:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.sakeapps.immersivesettings
You will need to use ADB to enable the hide function,afterwards,you're good to go.
(each app has its own unique command,but,accomplishes the same thing,see each app for details regarding the exact ADB command).
One MAJOR added benefit:
Before using this app,most apps that were full screen were lopped off at the bottom,just above the radius (on the left or right in landscape,however you use landscape).
Using this app helps to fully hide the quick settings on the bottom of the screen,which I think was the culprit. (You can still swipe up to access quick settings & navigation buttons).
Now,all apps,especially those that we bought this phone for (games/You-Tube & the like),can be fully enjoyed utilizing the entire display.
There's a setting under Settings\System Navigation that'll let you hide all three nav buttons at the bottom of the screen and still function as they should. You can even flip the order of the buttons. You can hide them completely or select small dots to represent them, or you can select small underscore symbols. The left is for Control Center. The center is Home screen. The right is the Back button. You trigger them by swiping up.
Saloei said:
There's a setting under Settings\System Navigation that'll let you hide all three nav buttons at the bottom of the screen and still function as they should. You can even flip the order of the buttons. You can hide them completely or select small dots to represent them, or you can select small underscore symbols. The left is for Control Center. The center is Home screen. The right is the Back button. You trigger them by swiping up.
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Yeah, that's true, but, this method gives you more control on a per app basis, that's the reason I posted this.
VIVO's take on it is a step in the right direction, but, IMHO, as with most of their software choices, is severely flawed,too much iOS inspiration & not enough common sense for a cleaner & functional U/I.
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So I've gotten used to the swipe up gestures for the navigation bar over my past few phones but going to the fold 2, on the big screen, the swipe gestures are too far apart for convenience. I see that there is an option for the traditional nav buttons to be offset to the right or left but i don't see an option for swipe gestures to be offset to the right or left. Is this even possible? Either within the Samsung settings or even a third party app?
The swipe gestures are new to me... never used them on my last phone (Note 8). I'm getting used to it on the small and large screens. I thought about switching back to include the buttons, but then it takes some of the video away which I think defeats the purpose of spending all this money on a phone with a large screen.
It's quite a bit easier if you go into the navigation options and switch to the gestures where you swipe from the side for back and bottom for home. When you do that anywhere up on the bottom will take you home so you can make both gestures in the lower right or left corner of the screen.
krabman said:
It's quite a bit easier if you go into the navigation options and switch to the gestures where you swipe from the side for back and bottom for home. When you do that anywhere up on the bottom will take you home so you can make both gestures in the lower right or left corner of the screen.
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Thanks. I've been using this method. Although not my preference is the best option so far. I appreciate the recommendation.
It would be nice if they'd let us fiddle with the placement and type of nav gestures, it's true about any phone but I think more so with this one due to the form factor.