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I am looking for a cheap set of headphones which supports phone calls for my OPO.
I tried using my iPhone headphones (which do have mic) but the other side won't hear me.
Anyone can tell me how do I search for these?
Thank U!
Try Xiaomi Piston v3
Cheap, good sound quality and working with OPO
Xiaomi Hybrid Dual Drivers
http://www.gearbest.com/earphones/pp_261864.html
Much better than Xiaomi Piston 3 and the price difference is only few dollars
I need some earphone
Xiaomi Piston 3
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That's a really subjective question. The Mi5 (after you change the mixer_paths_tasha.xml file to the China one) has very good, clean and loud output.
What headphones you should get depends only on your music taste. I have since done some research in order to get a better perspective, and have found these to be the best:
- MEMT X5 (you might want to get other tips, as it only includes double flanged tips)
- Tin Audio T515
- Rock Zicron
- CoIYue E1
They are listed in the order I'd recommend them, but you can't go wrong with any of them.
Edit: If your budget is higher I can highly recommend the Sennheiser Momentum II in-ears - They have a great soundstage, clean output and a good emphasis on bass and treble without muddying the mids.
Edit: Updated suggested earphone list with better alternatives
xdadevet said:
That's a really subjective question. The Mi5 (after you change the mixer_paths_tasha.xml file to the China one) has very good, clean and loud output.
What headphones you should get depends only on your music taste. I find the Xiaomi line is fantastic value for money - much like their phones - so here is a breakdown of how you should consider it (based on personal experience):
-Xiaomi Piston 2: Thumping bass, crisp treble but a bit muted/muddied mids (vocals). They are also very loud and even "quiet" phones can power them easily. Continued wearing is a bit uncomfortable, and they pop out when the cable snags or get tugged. Average noise isolation. Overall very fun to listen to and one of my favourites. Good for bassy genres with symbols and fewer vocals, such as rave, dubstep, house, and R&B.
-Xiaomi Piston 3: Clean, flat output. Great for budget audiophiles, but not very "fun" for average users because they lack the kick you get from others. Very comfortable. Average noise isolation. I find them boring. Good for clean genres with little bass such as classical music.
-Xiaomi Hybrid Pro: Has an emphasis on bass and treble without muting/mudding mids too much and overall good balanced headphones. Very comfortable and doesn't pop out if the cable snags (good for jogging). Average noise isolation. I think these are a great balance of the above two, but the cable and volume buttons are lower quality and it doesn't have a nice case like the others. These are good for gaming and most music and was my go-to pair (since been stolen).
-Xiaomi Hybrid Pro HD: I don't own these personally, yet - mine should be here by the end of the month. But paraphrasing reviewers who have also owned the above and many more: Slight emphasis on bass and treble - much like the Hybrid Pros - but with a much wider soundstage and better instrument isolation, and overall very detailed sound. It basically fixes everything that was wrong with the Hybrid Pros (better cable, controls, includes case and pouch, more detailed sound) but has slightly less bass (pro/con depending who you ask). I personally I will miss the bass (I loved it on the Piston 2, but the mids weren't great and sometimes the treble was a bit shrill). Very comfortable with average noise isolation. Good, balanced headphones for most music and especially gaming.
My personal recommendation would be the Xiaomi Hybrid Pro HDs, but if you love thumping bass go for the Piston 2 and if you hate "coloured" sound go for the Piston 3. The Hybrid Pro HD also has 3 drivers/speakers - (2 Balanced Armature + 1 Dynamic Driver) and the dynamic driver uses graphene - a supermaterial 600x stronger than steel, that's one atom thick, and very rarely seen in consumer products. Pretty awesome stuff just knowing that, even if it doesn't necessarily sound better.
I also highly recommend disabling the crap audio profiles Xiaomi installs and using Viper4Android/Viper4Windows to tweak the sound to your liking, and I if you like I can upload the sound profile I used with the Hybrid Pros.
Edit: If your budget is higher I can highly recommend the Sennheiser Momentum II in-ears - They have a great soundstage, clean output and a good emphasis on bass and treble without muddying the mids. It's better than any of Xiaomi's and I love how their output is shaped (it needs 0 tweaking and output is just perfect for my preference).
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Thanks for the full explanation , liked it. I've decided to buy the Sennheiser Momentum II in-ears. Thank you very much. :highfive:
anantalawliet said:
Thanks for the full explanation , liked it. I've decided to buy the Sennheiser Momentum II in-ears. Thank you very much. :highfive:
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Let me know what you think of them - I went to a studio and tried everything, from DACs to headphones to DSD files and Electrostats. I have a soft spot for the Sennheisers because despite everything they came close to some of the best over ear headphones (there was a difference but not one worth $6000) but were much more fun to listen to.
If you need help setting up your Mi5 audio files after you get tour headphones let me know :highfive:
How can I edit that build prop on my Mi5 with latest Xiaomi.eu dev ROM please?
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memorec said:
How can I edit that build prop on my Mi5 with latest Xiaomi.eu dev ROM please?
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If you're implying the file I mentioned earlier, it's not the build prop. The Chinese one (or Xiaomi.eu, since they share a common base) contain the same file settings and can replace the one you use in Lineage/Global ROMs.
You have to be Rooted to modify system files, so do that first. Then copy and replace the file found in root/system/etc with the one I'm attaching and reboot. The output from the headphone jack should be much higher, if it isn't your ROM dev already included the fix.
I used RHA 500 with dynamic microdriver....extreame pleasure for listening lossless audio
KZ ZS5, Senfer 6in1, crazy cello, senzer h1
there's lot detailed reviews online
personally i use them too, the price is about same with xiaomi counterparts but the sound experience is different (better)
you might want to try dwelling into chi-fi world xD
Anyone here using Type-C headphones/earphones?
I'm using JBL E25 BT and in spite of being bluetotth it sounds pretty good. Also the wire is not attached to the phone anymore. My life is a bit easier now :3 I only have to charge it once per 1 or 2 days, but it's not a problem for me.
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Anyone here using Type-C headphones/earphones?
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I doubt it, there a very few on the market (Xiaomi makes a pair though) so they're not really competitive and you can get much better headphones for a lot cheaper at this point. Also, since USB type C doesn't have any real advantage over the 3.5mm jack with normal earphones (not including high impedance earphones or a pair with ANC) and the Mi 5 has an audio jack, I don't think there is any real interest in getting a pair.
I can totally recommend Xiaomi Hybrid Pro HD(the one with triple driver). I can safely say it did replaced my headphones(AT M50x & superlux hd681evo, and a JBL bluetooth) during my 4 months travel time. But mind you it's sharp sounding and bright as it has v-shaped sound but smooth and not sluggish.
While the price might seems a little bit on the cheap side, fortunately the durability is alright. I'm skeptical with Xiaomi's decision to go with rubber cable rather than previous Piston 3 keylar lined cable but it did survive many accidental pulls on my side.
If you decided to pick one up, buy 3rd party eartip as stock eartip doesn't have good isolation.
But be careful for fake Hybrid Pros.
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I would highly recommend anything from RHA their products are extremely well crafted, incredible sound fidelity, durable and great customer service. The sound insulation compares and at times outshines over the ear headphones.
JBL T-100A In Ear Headphone with Mic (Black)
this one is best if u like bass
seilent said:
KZ ZS5, Senfer 6in1, crazy cello, senzer h1
there's lot detailed reviews online
personally i use them too, the price is about same with xiaomi counterparts but the sound experience is different (better)
you might want to try dwelling into chi-fi world xD
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The same. I own a couple of headphones, including Xiaomi Piston 3 and can tell you that the right choice is KZ brand. I own KZ ZS5 that are many times better that Piston 3 and probably the same compared to other Xiaomi Headphones. I had the luck to buy them in promotion for 24$ (now about 30). You have option to buy even better ZS6 (40-50$) or cheaper ZST. Man, this ZS5 are even (much) better than my HiFiMan RE-400, that were entry level audiophile headphones that I buy for 100$ + 10$ shipping (now are discounted to 50$, but not worth compared to ZS5).
Piston 3 headphones are not bad at all. They sound relatively flat (which means real, not emphasized sound) without big drawbacks. But ZS5 are audibly better in each extent - more clear powerful sound, better dynamics, bass, midds, highs, open staged ... Just have to see if you like their design, because are bigger (but fit fine once you insert them). So buy cheap Xiaomi headphones only if the budget is restricted. And even in this case I would prefer Superlux 381b which should be something like 18$ (I bought them for about 14+ euros).
Just my 2 cents...
I have KZ ZS5, both with silver cable and bluetooth, Xiaomi Hybrid Pro HD, Sony WF1000X and a few cheaper more (i.e. Piston 3). For me, the best sound comes from Hybrid HD without any doubt. ZS5 are very good too, but they are not very comfortable (at least for my ears). Sony have a very good sound, very close to the Hybrid HD, and active noise cancellation is really wonderful.
As usual, any ears are different and we all have our preferences, but if I had to buy new earphones and BT was not in the wish list, Xiaomi Hybrid Pro HD would be the first choice...
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Can anyone offer impressions of the audio quality, of the 3.5mm jack output?
The SD 845 should provide a decent DAC, but the question is: How good is the audio amplifier feeding the 3.5mm jack output? (Power, distortion, S/N, etc.)
Wondering if this might be one place OP economized to reduce cost. Don't see any discussion about it anywhere...
TIA...
Any info or comments on OP6 3.5mm jack audio quality would be appreciated.
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I only have cheaper in-ears and they sound as bad as everywhere else If you really need a good output maybe consider the G7
My apple ear buds sounded just fine with the OP6 but the sound volume is a bit low when i use the aux out with my car stereo. My iPhone 6 had a better audio output on my car stereo compared to OP6. I will do more tests and try to come to a proper conclusion.
I normally use a Dragonfly red DAC but for science I used the 3.5mm jack. Unfortunately it sounded very average at best, kind of flat and narrow sound stage. Tested it with a pair of Shure 535.
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My apple ear buds sounded just fine with the OP6 but the sound volume is a bit low when i use the aux out with my car stereo. My iPhone 6 had a better audio output on my car stereo compared to OP6. I will do more tests and try to come to a proper conclusion.
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That's useful info, thanks.
Seems like iPhones have audio output that is good or better, so that is a good comparison.
Weak output is exactly what I am concerned about with the OP6. I believe the DAC function is handled by the SD845 which should be pretty good, but the power amp section between that and the 3.5mm jack is where OP may have reduced cost with lower spec hardware.
Weaker output will increase distortion, at normal listening levels the amp has to operate closer to max output which increases distortion.
I had a phone once with cheap audio HW feeding the 3.5mm jack, and I will not do that again. I had high hopes for the OP6, oh well.
What's striking about the OP6 is that there is virtually no mention anywhere about the 3.5mm audio output quality. A few bits here and there about the speakers, but all phone speakers sound tinny, more or less, audio quality is poor with all phone speakers, that's not where quality is ever good so who cares?
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I got to test the audio jack comparing to my OP3, using Sennheiser IE-8 IEMs. Now, you could probably get different results with other headphones, but these are very easy to drive, and the audio output was just so low compared to the OP3. I kind of also agree to the post above saying the soundstage being flat/narrow. Honestly I don't want another phone since OnePlus checks almost all of the smartphone boxes for me, but I gave up on the OP6 after doing that test.
I am using SONY wh-1000xm2 both with mini jack cable and over BT LDAC coded. In both conditions sound is rich and crips yet sligtly louder over BT.
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I got to test the audio jack comparing to my OP3, using Sennheiser IE-8 IEMs. Now, you could probably get different results with other headphones, but these are very easy to drive, and the audio output was just so low compared to the OP3. I kind of also agree to the post above saying the soundstage being flat/narrow. Honestly I don't want another phone since OnePlus checks almost all of the smartphone boxes for me, but I gave up on the OP6 after doing that test.
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Thanks, another review indicating sub-par audio output power on the OP6 headphone jack.
I'm out, my V30S is on the way. (B&H has a really good deal right now, and bootloader unlock & root are available.)
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Tinkerer_ said:
That's useful info, thanks.
Seems like iPhones have audio output that is good or better, so that is a good comparison.
Weak output is exactly what I am concerned about with the OP6. I believe the DAC function is handled by the SD845 which should be pretty good, but the power amp section between that and the 3.5mm jack is where OP may have reduced cost with lower spec hardware.
Weaker output will increase distortion, at normal listening levels the amp has to operate closer to max output which increases distortion.
I had a phone once with cheap audio HW feeding the 3.5mm jack, and I will not do that again. I had high hopes for the OP6, oh well.
What's striking about the OP6 is that there is virtually no mention anywhere about the 3.5mm audio output quality. A few bits here and there about the speakers, but all phone speakers sound tinny, more or less, audio quality is poor with all phone speakers, that's not where quality is ever good so who cares?
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According to iFixit, OnePlus 6 has WCD9341 chip on board which is pretty decent DAC
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masi0 said:
According to iFixit, OnePlus 6 has WCD9341 chip on board which is pretty decent DAC
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I saw that, but the info on that "codec" (DAC etc.) by Qualcomm is not clear with respect to power amplification. WCD9341 appears to be integrated to the Snapdragon 845, and it would seem that analog audio power amplification of the output of the DAC itself would best be done outside of the SD845 because of heat dissipation and possibly EMI. Which means that a separate power amp section is used if this is so, and that is the place that OP might skimp.
Multiple anecdotes in this thread about weak audio on the OP6 3.5mm jack also support this likelihood.
I don't have a stake in this anymore, ordered a V30S. Headphone jack audio quality is more important than raw speed to me, and the V30S also has other advantages, for a B&H discounted price not much higher than OP6 right now.
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let's be honest - if you want good sound quality buy AudioQuest Black or Red and use it with good/decent headphones.
Despite I cant complain on headphone output/i use mailny Sony over LDAC I am planning to get one external DAC anyway
masi0 said:
let's be honest - if you want good sound quality buy AudioQuest Black or Red and use it with good/decent headphones.
Despite I cant complain on headphone output/i use mailny Sony over LDAC I am planning to get one external DAC anyway
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The problem with separate DAC like the Dragonfly is that... it is a separate DAC, with an extra $200 cost (Red). Using it with a phone on the go would require some kind of rigging e.g. Velcro. And that is the smallest/lightest example I think.
The ESS DAC in the V30(S) is said to perform similarly to DACs like the Dragonfly. It has a few caveats, like auto-detect load > auto-adjust output. There are a couple ways to address that stupidity though.
Not plugging for B&H, but their limited-time discount V30S price delta vs. OP6 is less than the price of a Dragonfly Red, and that also brings USB 3.1, a micro SD slot, and IP68.
Bowing out from OP6 thread now. Good luck.
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I am getting familiar with this a/b config tree....I will optimize the sound system, to a point that not even mainland will recognize it...... also, will try to make it dual speaker, when output=speaker.
untl then,
TURBO.
TURBO2012 said:
I am getting familiar with this a/b config tree....I will optimize the sound system, to a point that not even mainland will recognize it...... also, will try to make it dual speaker, when output=speaker.
untl then,
TURBO.
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That sounds interesting. Looking forward. All the best.
IMO you can't even listen to any phone w/out V4A. My OP6 sounds awesome with this installed and the power output was surprising.
I only shared how it is compared to the OP3 - now, you can surely software mod it, bit if the HW is limited, there's little you can do there - but to each their own. I value headphone output/quality too much so I'll just grab the next LG V40 when it comes out and don't bother with any trickery/external DACs/Amps.
Speaker is louder than my HTC10 (not quite as good sound quality but ok), earphone quality using black player and Jays-a-Jays heavy bass earphones is fine, I'm pleasantly surprised
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IMO you can't even listen to any phone w/out V4A. My OP6 sounds awesome with this installed and the power output was surprising.
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Mind sharing the installer!? And process too?
P.S. - I hope you did it without twrp!
I've also noticed quite a difference between power output on the OP6 compared to the OP3, sadly.
Well it says that it supports Hi-Fi audio. But how Hi-Fi is it? What DAC is inside? In particular, I would like to know how the sound quality is from the 3.5mm audio jack compared to Hi-Fi mode of LG v30, my current phone. I simply cannot get a phone that downgrades my audio experience, you know?
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Well it says that it supports Hi-Fi audio. But how Hi-Fi is it? What DAC is inside? In particular, I would like to know how the sound quality is from the 3.5mm audio jack compared to Hi-Fi mode of LG v30, my current phone. I simply cannot get a phone that downgrades my audio experience, you know?
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Go for htc u12 plus
It jas the same impressive sound like v30
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Go for htc u12 plus
It jas the same impressive sound like v30
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It doesn't even have 3.5 jack. HTC makes my heart hurt...
Anyone else?
You find your answer here :
http://eng.soomal.com/edoc/10100000237.htm
Cirrus Logic CS43199
Andrew Lin said:
It doesn't even have 3.5 jack. HTC makes my heart hurt...
Anyone else?
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Its mind blowing through wired headset. I have used Lg G4 and V20 (both had dac) , Nex's sound output is at par with them or maybe even more.
Noticed that Nex plays the hifi and dsd mode only if played in imusic app and with DSD format file....tried all other formats including FLAC but the DSD nor HIFI modes get enabled...
The V30 gets way louder, I have headphones that trigger the Quad DAC on the V30 and I used volume at 70%, on the nex I use it at 100% and still wish that it would go a bit louder, sound quality is about the same, but V30 is superior no doubt, I compare the DAC on the Nex with the Note 8 or S8.
Vivo has always excelled in the audio side. They implement it very well
Louder is not better always . Please understand. Unless your earphones don't need that much output then activating quad dac is no use. A quote from respectable audiophile member from head-fi who used to test a lots of phone
"Listening to nex s is sweeter mid than lg v30. NexS provides better Imaging and fuller soundstage. Nex S is warmer than lg v30 thus making music more natural. Nex S provides more bass detail while lg v30 focus on treble and character brighter."
If you have heavy or high impedance headphones only then quad dac makes a sense. Low impedance heavy headphones don't drive enough well on LG cos of not activating quad dac
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Louder is not better always . Please understand. Unless your earphones don't need that much output then activating quad dac is no use. A quote from respectable audiophile member from head-fi who used to test a lots of phone
"Listening to nex s is sweeter mid than lg v30. NexS provides better Imaging and fuller soundstage. Nex S is warmer than lg v30 thus making music more natural. Nex S provides more bass detail while lg v30 focus on treble and character brighter."
If you have heavy or high impedance headphones only then quad dac makes a sense. Low impedance heavy headphones don't drive enough well on LG cos of not activating quad dac
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Could you tell me some high impedance headphones will work great with my vivo nex ?
rowihel2012 said:
Could you tell me some high impedance headphones will work great with my vivo nex ?
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Beyerdynamics DT 880 250ohms version, Sennheiser HD 600series(600,650) . It doesn't need to be always high impedance headphones. You should choose headphones according to your music taste. Even the most rated headphones doesn't always have high impedance but generally around 32-80ohms. So don't make impedance as a deciding factor for buying headphones. I know it because i was thinking same as you did now.
using vivo next s with Beyerdynamics DT 990 pro 250ohms . sound great but use it with app named poweramp. it takes volume and quality to the next level( you can control gain in it and allmost everything)
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using vivo next s with Beyerdynamics DT 990 pro 250ohms . sound great but use it with app named poweramp. it takes volume and quality to the next level( you can control gain in it and allmost everything)
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Does it support hi fif dac?
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Does it support hi fif dac?
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I have not compared with V30, but I am an audiophile and my AKG 240STUDIO sounds amazing with these headphones I agree what someone else said its a balanced sound with focus on midrange, high end is just enough detailed, I really love this sound, it sound even better then My Mi MIX that sounded wonderful in headphones too. The reason why phones dont include headphone jack is just lazyness they dont want to put effort into the art of creating a good sound. **** wireless audio! and long live the headphone jack with its superior sound quality.
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using vivo next s with Beyerdynamics DT 990 pro 250ohms . sound great but use it with app named poweramp. it takes volume and quality to the next level( you can control gain in it and allmost everything)
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Honestly... to just a high ohm headphones with a smartphone is just stupid to me.... Beyerdynamics are known to be some of the most hard to drive headphones, they really need a good headphone amp to sound good, and that is little but too much to ask for a smartphone. I own the Beyerdynamics DT1350 they are more suitable for smasrtphone since its low ohm and more easy to drive, with higher ohm headphones you will hear more sound artifacts because they are hard to drive for a smartphone amp.
By the way, have you tried the app AIMP ? From what I knew this is the best sounding media player on android. And its free, feel free to compare them if you want in terms of sound quality.
and to use any kind of volume boost is a no no, then you just need a stronger amp.. for podcast etc you can use volume boost but not for music then you will just destroy the sound.
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I have not compared with V30, but I am an audiophile and my AKG 240STUDIO sounds amazing with these headphones I agree what someone else said its a balanced sound with focus on midrange, high end is just enough detailed, I really love this sound, it sound even better then My Mi MIX that sounded wonderful in headphones too. The reason why phones dont include headphone jack is just lazyness they dont want to put effort into the art of creating a good sound. **** wireless audio! and long live the headphone jack with its superior sound quality.
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Honestly... to just a high ohm headphones with a smartphone is just stupid to me.... Beyerdynamics are known to be some of the most hard to drive headphones, they really need a good headphone amp to sound good, and that is little but too much to ask for a smartphone. I own the Beyerdynamics DT1350 they are more suitable for smasrtphone since its low ohm and more easy to drive, with higher ohm headphones you will hear more sound artifacts because they are hard to drive for a smartphone amp.
By the way, have you tried the app AIMP ? From what I knew this is the best sounding media player on android. And its free, feel free to compare them if you want in terms of sound quality.
and to use any kind of volume boost is a no no, then you just need a stronger amp.. for podcast etc you can use volume boost but not for music then you will just destroy the sound.
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yea i know its better to have powerfull amp for them , I think I'll get some portable amp if i find some good one and no so expensive. i bought 250 ohm version beucase i use it with pc too, not only with phone. ok i try that app.
Does Nex's Amp need to be triggered like V30's?
Just a fast and easy question: does Nex's Amp need to be triggered in High Gain mode like the one on LG V30? Maybe using an adapter first and then plugging your headphones and playing music to enjoy it at the best it can gives. This is a well-know trick to trigger Hi Gain on LG and Meizu phones with dedicated DAC.
Please let me know
Which phone has a better LG v30 audio codec from Saber or VIVO Nex S Cirrus Logic?
a qualcuno può interessare https://www.evosmart.it/recensioni/...ex-s-potenza-sopita-scottante-sorpresa/18116/
I think the weakness of the amplifier is it output kind of low volume however, its still very clean even at 100% so other manufactures my get higher volume but probably not as clean..
Anyway it defintely would need more power, considering I use kind of easy to drive headphones AKG 240Studio the volume should be able to boost louder.
I would say it is not a problem with my headphones but if you get any more higher ohm headphones it wil not be enough jucie.
Friends can u help me to select a good amp which cost not that much so that I can use my audio technica M50X to its full potential with my one plus6
Thanks in advance.
With the 38 ohm the op should be able to play them loud enough :s
The amp should be loud enough, but maybe you're looking for an amp +DAC (digital audio converter) combo? I'd argue a dedicated DAC would give a slightly better audio experience. Are you using any rooted audio modules like Viper4Android?
I believe Fiio makes a wide range of mobile amp + DAC devices you can take a look at
Thanks brother but I don't want to root my phone and yup m50x are loud but I want best quality from them so suggest dac or amp if specific one them tell me thanks in advance