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hello
i just pre order my S6 this week end
i quit my HTC one M7 and the M9 dont interest me in term of design and fonctionality
so it my first Samsung , i always have HTC phone
so i want to know if the dev comunity is active on Samsung device (custom roms , etc.... ) ????
thx in advance for reply :good:
Off course my friend just wait till its officially released and ull see the development for this beast
demmo81 said:
Off course my friend just wait till its officially released and ull see the development for this beast
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I have a M7 currently, and I will most likely get a SGS6. Modding HTC (unlocking/rooting/custom roms & kernels) is fairly easy. How does Sammy compare to HTC? I read it's a bit more difficult for you guys. True?
I've read Sammy's with Qualcomm chips are easier to mod than the Exynos variants. True?
I've also read Samsung takes awhile to release latest kernel sources. True?
Hopefully someone can answer these questions. First Samsung TW device. My previous smartphones are in my sig.
I wouldn't really count on the development on S6 being active. You can at the very least take a look at the Galaxy S5 G900H which is the exynos variant of the S5 which barely recieve any support from developers.
Well there are ROM chefs at least but developers are close to nil.
Riyal said:
I wouldn't really count on the development on S6 being active. You can at the very least take a look at the Galaxy S5 G900H which is the exynos variant of the S5 which barely recieve any support from developers.
Well there are ROM chefs at least but developers are close to nil.
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Difference is that the S6 will ONLY be Exynos, so everyone will have the Exynos version (more users/devs), of course. With the S5, most ppl had the Qualcomm variant correct? So more users/devs for the Qualcomm version.
In the last few years, generally speaking Samsung devices with Exynos SoCs have only had fully-functional custom ROMs based on TouchWiz, but ROMs based on AOSP or CyanogenMod have had unsolvable problems with the camera, sound driver's, etc. The bottom line is, if you buy a Samsung, make sure you are perfectly content with TouchWiz or broken ROMs.
Well I heard that samsung is also planning on releasing snapdragon based s6 sometime in the future? I'm not sure as I lost my interest in s6 after they confirmed that there's no sdcard in s6. Also if development is really a big deal for you when purchasing the S6 then I say better wait first before jumping. We don't know yet if there are indeed devs willing to take on the galaxy s6 for development. For now so far I haven't heard anyone willing to unlike on HTC and other devices devs are already swarming the forums even if the device is not yet released. So if I were you... Wait a couple of weeks and observe the development progress here in the forums. If it recieves enough to get your interest then purchase one and if you're lucky enough a price drop might happen before you get your device.
J-Hop2o6 said:
Difference is that the S6 will ONLY be Exynos, so everyone will have the Exynos version (more users/devs), of course. With the S5, most ppl had the Qualcomm variant correct? So more users/devs for the Qualcomm version.
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Yes this is what I'm talking about... There are only ROM chefs(those who specialize in modifying the stock ROM) rather than developers(those who develop custom ROMs from source code) The problem here is that Samsung won't release the "full" source code of their exynos chipsets hence any drivers that's communicating in the SoC can't be recompiled against other ROMs.
As far as I know only 1 custom kernel has been released on the G900H S5 and that barely even got any progress at all even if it's just a plain TW kernel.
CafeKampuchia said:
In the last few years, generally speaking Samsung devices with Exynos SoCs have only had fully-functional custom ROMs based on TouchWiz, but ROMs based on AOSP or CyanogenMod have had unsolvable problems with the camera, sound driver's, etc. The bottom line is, if you buy a Samsung, make sure you are perfectly content with TouchWiz or broken ROMs.
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Look at s3 for closest example
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Ave666 said:
Look at s3 for closest example
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Is the s3 a exynos only device also?
Riyal said:
Is the s3 a exynos only device also?
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Yes, exynos 4412
CafeKampuchia said:
In the last few years, generally speaking Samsung devices with Exynos SoCs have only had fully-functional custom ROMs based on TouchWiz, but ROMs based on AOSP or CyanogenMod have had unsolvable problems with the camera, sound driver's, etc. The bottom line is, if you buy a Samsung, make sure you are perfectly content with TouchWiz or broken ROMs.
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I mostly use roms which the devices was made for. Like the M7, I stuck with Sense roms. If I get the SGS6, I will stick with TW. The reason I stick with what the phone was made for is because of less bugs, and the camera is always better on the original sw, etc. So modded stock roms is what I usually go for. Hopefully some good stuff for the SGS6 in the near-future, especially since it will be a popular device.
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Well I heard that samsung is also planning on releasing snapdragon based s6 sometime in the future? I'm not sure as I lost my interest in s6 after they confirmed that there's no sdcard in s6. Also if development is really a big deal for you when purchasing the S6 then I say better wait first before jumping. We don't know yet if there are indeed devs willing to take on the galaxy s6 for development. For now so far I haven't heard anyone willing to unlike on HTC and other devices devs are already swarming the forums even if the device is not yet released. So if I were you... Wait a couple of weeks and observe the development progress here in the forums. If it recieves enough to get your interest then purchase one and if you're lucky enough a price drop might happen before you get your device.
Yes this is what I'm talking about... There are only ROM chefs(those who specialize in modifying the stock ROM) rather than developers(those who develop custom ROMs from source code) The problem here is that Samsung won't release the "full" source code of their exynos chipsets hence any drivers that's communicating in the SoC can't be recompiled against other ROMs.
As far as I know only 1 custom kernel has been released on the G900H S5 and that barely even got any progress at all even if it's just a plain TW kernel.
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Yea, i'm patiently waiting for some big news on the 3rd party support. Modded stock rom is what I was going for, not AOSP roms. I always like using what the device was made for. In this case, TW. Same with my M7, Sense. So is it still difficult for the Chefs to work on the stock rom because of Exynos (and other reasons?). Or is it sort of painless? And that does suck about the S5 (Exynos varient?) kernel situation =(
elia222 said:
Yes, exynos 4412
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Also with Legendary S2
Ave666 said:
Also with Legendary S2
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Also note 2
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J-Hop2o6 said:
I mostly use roms which the devices was made for. Like the M7, I stuck with Sense roms. If I get the SGS6, I will stick with TW. The reason I stick with what the phone was made for is because of less bugs, and the camera is always better on the original sw, etc. So modded stock roms is what I usually go for. Hopefully some good stuff for the SGS6 in the near-future, especially since it will be a popular device.
Yea, i'm patiently waiting for some big news on the 3rd party support. Modded stock rom is what I was going for, not AOSP roms. I always like using what the device was made for. In this case, TW. Same with my M7, Sense. So is it still difficult for the Chefs to work on the stock rom because of Exynos (and other reasons?). Or is it sort of painless? And that does suck about the S5 (Exynos varient?) kernel situation =(
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If it's just modded stock ROM you're after then you shouldn't have any problems then...
I have to admit I'm a little jealous going over to the m9 forum and seeing it full of roms already
I highly doubt the bootloader will be unlockable on the S6, greatly limiting options. No one has figured out how to unlock the S5 yet.
Unless they release a developer edition on the S6, I would prepare to have root, and possibly SafeStrap, at best.
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I highly doubt the bootloader will be unlockable on the S6, greatly limiting options. No one has figured out how to unlock the S5 yet.
Unless they release a developer edition on the S6, I would prepare to have root, and possibly SafeStrap, at best.
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Tmobile version and international have unlockable bootloaders. This phone is the reason why I switched to tmobile from at&t.
NJGSII said:
Tmobile version and international have unlockable bootloaders. This phone is the reason why I switched to tmobile from at&t.
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Oh, I wasn't aware of that. I'm on Verizon's user-unfriendly network.
NJGSII said:
Tmobile version and international have unlockable bootloaders. This phone is the reason why I switched to tmobile from at&t.
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Sprint on the S5 is unlocked as well. The locked bootloader is usually the carrier being difficult, Verizon/AT&T.
My bet is 3-4 months for a patchwork AOSP.
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Oh, I wasn't aware of that. I'm on Verizon's user-unfriendly network.
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Yeah you have those versions you'll mostly sol when it comes to development.
Hello !
I am thinking of upgrading from S6. One thing I hate about S6 is it is hard for developers to develop ROMs for the exynos. I'm thinking about getting the Snapdragon version of S7 for this reason. What do you think about the difference in terms of Performance and Heating ? :fingers-crossed:
SaffatBokul said:
Hello !
I am thinking of upgrading from S6. One thing I hate about S6 is it is hard for developers to develop ROMs for the exynos. I'm thinking about getting the Snapdragon version of S7 for this reason. What do you think about the difference in terms of Performance and Heating ? :fingers-crossed:
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ATM, all of the Snapdragon-based versions have a locked bootloader = no rooting or ROM development. Developing AOSP- or CM-based ROMs won't be possible for the Exynos version for a loooonng time, if ever.
The difference in performance will be unnoticeable unless you like to sit around and run benchmarks, but even so, the SD820 wins some, the Exynos 8890 wins some.
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ATM, all of the Snapdragon-based versions have a locked bootloader = no rooting or ROM development. Developing AOSP- or CM-based ROMs won't be possible for the Exynos version for a loooonng time, if ever.
The difference in performance will be unnoticeable unless you like to sit around and run benchmarks, but even so, the SD820 wins some, the Exynos 8890 wins some.
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Oh well, just the read the article on XDA. Seems like would have to get the exynos variant again. Really hoped to get a samsung nexus this time around
SaffatBokul said:
Oh well, just the read the article on XDA. Seems like would have to get the exynos variant again. Really hoped to get a samsung nexus this time around
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If it have the 820 battery life plus the lack of android os and system drain I'm game for it
I'm interested in buying this phone, and I've already noticed that exynos version is more supported by devs here and in overall it's better. But my problem is, what is the codenumber of the exynos version, not sure if I call it properly but I'm talking about this SM - T310 thing for example. I just couldn't find it anywhere... And my question is which one is for which phone, or if it's country specified, then can someone tell me how can I get the better version?
Sm-g930f is international, sm-g930w8 is canadian exynos.
Sm-g930a 930t 930v 930s 930u is att/tmo/verizon/sprint/carrier unlocked snapdragon.
Check out B & H Photo Video:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1225377-REG/samsung_sm_g930_32gb_blk_galaxy_s7_g930_32gb.html
I bought my exynos S7 from them. Very reputable, fast delivery and excellent price. I would not recommend getting the snapdragon. The root for it is very buggy and there is no support from developers because the bootloader is locked and will likely never be unlocked. I have my S7 rooted with VoLTE, WiFi calling and unlimited tether. To answer your question, it's the SM-G930F. The G935F is the S7 Edge.
peachpuff said:
Sm-g930f is international, sm-g930w8 is canadian exynos.
Sm-g930a 930t 930v 930s 930u is att/tmo/verizon/sprint/carrier unlocked snapdragon.
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Finally someone that could tell that in a normal way, thanks
SystematiQ said:
Check out B & H Photo Video:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1225377-REG/samsung_sm_g930_32gb_blk_galaxy_s7_g930_32gb.html
I bought my exynos S7 from them. Very reputable, fast delivery and excellent price. I would not recommend getting the snapdragon. The root for it is very buggy and there is no support from developers because the bootloader is locked and will likely never be unlocked. I have my S7 rooted with VoLTE, WiFi calling and unlimited tether. To answer your question, it's the SM-G930F. The G935F is the S7 Edge.
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The thing for me is that I live outside the US so when all the taxes and duties that are coming together make the price $300 higher, and yeah i just noticed that Samsung with the snapdragon one is just lonely and noone cares about him heh Thanks a lot too
I own the exynos and it has root and comes with an unlocked bootloader but the roms for the exynos aren't that great because all of the devs are bored with with exynos and their sh*t because it's very hard to develop things for exynos Samsung are very closed with the code, and the snapdragon comes with a locked bootloader, but if it ever does get unlocked the Roms for it will be very nice and not just a modified TouchWiz. If you plan on instantly rooting then get the exynos, but there aren't any stable AOSP Roms for it and probably never will.
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I own the exynos and it has root and comes with an unlocked bootloader but the roms for the exynos aren't that great because all of the devs are bored with with exynos and their sh*t because it's very hard to develop things for exynos Samsung are very closed with the code, and the snapdragon comes with a locked bootloader, but if it ever does get unlocked the Roms for it will be very nice and not just a modified TouchWiz. If you plan on instantly rooting then get the exynos, but there aren't any stable AOSP Roms for it and probably never will.
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The exynos source code was released not long ago. So there will be support. Superman ROM is awesome and very stable. Also, I read somewhere that Lineage OS is in the works for S7.
SystematiQ said:
The exynos source code was released not long ago. So there will be support. Superman ROM is awesome and very stable. Also, I read somewhere that Lineage OS is in the works for S7.
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Works and being stable-very different things.
If you want more info read this https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-exynos-and-aosp-explained-a-story-of-betrayal/
And a quote from the linked post: "There’s no future. Almost all devs have stopped working on exynos devices a long time ago. Most of them even stopped to work on samsung devices in general.
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They simply don’t care about the community. All they care about is $$$"
Most of the devs only care about money NOT ALL. Some are creating Roms for fun tho
userName'dYa said:
Works and being stable-very different things.
If you want more info read this https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-exynos-and-aosp-explained-a-story-of-betrayal/
And a quote from the linked post: "There’s no future. Almost all devs have stopped working on exynos devices a long time ago. Most of them even stopped to work on samsung devices in general.
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They simply don’t care about the community. All they care about is $$$"
Most of the devs only care about money NOT ALL. Some are creating Roms for fun tho
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I respectfully disagree Sir. You are correct that there has been very little support as far as roms go, however that is due to Samsung holding onto the source for the kernel. It has just been released within the last couple months. I guess is comes down to opinion partially. I love the S7 because it's hardware is superior to that of other devices and TouchWiz is actually very nice imho. Also, I can't live without SD card. >_< I would buy a OnePlus or Pixel if they had SD card.
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I respectfully disagree Sir. You are correct that there has been very little support as far as roms go, however that is due to Samsung holding onto the source for the kernel. It has just been released within the last couple months. I guess is comes down to opinion partially. I love the S7 because it's hardware is superior to that of other devices and TouchWiz is actually very nice imho. Also, I can't live without SD card. >_< I would buy a OnePlus or Pixel if they had SD card.
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I guess that the fact that I hate TouchWiz makes me disagree and there are no good stable Roms and like you said there is Lineage and also there's Resurucction Remix but last time I checked out the Ressurction Remix even the camera doesn't work and Lineage is also before even an alpha stage from what I know the rom doesn't even have download links yet.
Exynos is proven to be a better chip over snapdragon
Hi
Many users may knowing, I am supporting ROM development since N02 to N20 and now S22U is replaced Note series, I am planning to buy it but thinking to go with majority users. This time my country going to get SD. Before buying I want to know how majority users getting it (specifically who are interested in root & custom ROM).
Kindly vote If you are interested to ROOT & custom ROM only.
Thinking on sell my Note 10+, on my country we are getting the Exynos version like always
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This time my country going to get SD
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I am also interested in ROM development. Thank you Dr. ketan.
donkeyman1234 said:
Wow! SD means SD card Slot ? May I ask what country? I really like to have a sd-slot s22u. I am also interested in ROM development. Thank you Dr. ketan.
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SD in this case means Snapdragon.
It seems this time Snapdragon share will be much more, may needed to support both version which is much diffiult.
For those interested in the Snapdragon variants, you can pre-order on Wondamobile https://www.wondamobile.com/mobile/samsung/samsung-galaxy-s.html (will ship around March 7)
Keep in mind: Samsung Pay most likely won't work in Europe because the variant is meant for another region. I believe they are selling the Chinese variant, not 100 % sure though.
Personally I've never ordered from Wonda before, but I've only heard good things about them, even on this forum.
jericho246 said:
For those interested in the Snapdragon variants, you can pre-order on Wondamobile https://www.wondamobile.com/mobile/samsung/samsung-galaxy-s.html (will ship around March 7)
Keep in mind: Samsung Pay most likely won't work in Europe because the variant is meant for another region. I believe they are selling the Chinese variant, not 100 % sure though.
Personally I've never ordered from Wonda before, but I've only heard good things about them, even on this forum.
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One should check about India
India have SD version + also support Samsung pay
dr.ketan said:
Hi
Many users may knowing, I am supporting ROM development since N02 to N20 and now S22U is replaced Note series, I am planning to buy it but thinking to go with majority users. This time my country going to get SD. Before buying I want to know how majority users getting it (specifically who are interested in root & custom ROM).
Kindly vote If you are interested to ROOT & custom ROM only.
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Most Welcome my bro, Used your rom For so looong. thanks for all your hard works my bro.
Getting mine S22 Ultra 1to Burgundy.
dr.ketan said:
It seems this time Snapdragon share will be much more, may needed to support both version which is much diffiult.
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May I further add Dr. Ketan that us Snapdragon folks haven't had any good choices for the last couple of years and have been watching with envy from afar.... I also think you'll might just enjoy the challenge of tinkering with a different variant
Gett8ng s22u in Italy, so exynos ver. Interested obviously in ketan rom, that i use in pro version in s21 ultra (i was the first contributor for this phone)
Hats off for your continuous effort bringing the best custom rom development to those that need / want it.
Personally I stopped rooting and customizing my devices a while ago but still keen on following development.
Thanks for keeping the spirit alive
Getting s22u in Italy, so exynos ver. Interested obviously in ketan rom, that i use in pro version in s21 ultra (i was the first contributor for this phone)
Hi,
From France I'll have an Exynos version. I might be interested in your rom.
Looking forward to a variety of custom ROMs for the SnapDragon variant this time (Exynos had it good all these years)
Snapdragon here
Just to share good news guys
S22 bootloader unlock screen I have extracted from S22 ultra and there is no camera disable warning. Cheers!
No idea what is going on. everyone talking India is etting snapdragon this time but when I have extracted CSC file from official S22 ultra firmware, India is included in exynos and there no India CSC there on snapdragon firmware csc
I live in the UK so Exynos. Pre-ordered my phone already. I believe ignoring the Exynos version won't be easy that much since whole EU with get that version and XDA is English speaking forum and I believe most user from EU or english speaking countries.
LOL. Exynos was always supported. You can't stop now. We count on you. And thank you for all these years.
In fact, with USA/ Canada/Australia/ New Zealand and now India - most English-speaking users will be having the Snapdragon variant.
A lot of the EU users don't necessarily speak English, especially central & eastern parts of Europe. Quite a few may import the Snapdragon variant (especially if Exynos variant turns out to be relatively inferior as has been the recent trend).
Hey I was wondering if I bought a Samsung s22 ultra if I could root it, what all did I need. I just want to be able to spoof Pokémon go and use as my primary phone. Thanks!
here you go...
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here you go...
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So I can use any Samsung s22 ultra? I’m in the US.
US Snapdragon versions of the S22 cannot be rooted as of yet.
dalepl said:
US Snapdragon versions of the S22 cannot be rooted as of yet.
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I thought so, so what version do I need?
It seems right now only the EU version with the Exynos processor.
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It seems right now only the EU version with the Exynos processor.
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Ok so an international unlocked version? Is there any downfalls to the exynos processor or that version?
You don't particularly need an exynos version to be rooted. I've got the SM-S908E/DS version which is the international Snapdragon variant. I got lucky because we've only had exynos versions in Saudi Arabia for years. And I actually thought I had the exynos 2200 when I bought mine.
I've achieved root through patching the AP file from the original firmware using magisk. https://www.droidwin.com/how-to-root-samsung-galaxy-s22-ultra-via-magisk-patched-ap/
You also should check Dr ketans thread as you might find a pre patched AP file that matches your build.
BillGiovanni said:
Ok so an international unlocked version? Is there any downfalls to the exynos processor or that version?
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You might want to browse some more, there are quite some threads on the issues reported on Exynos devices.
About rooting, I believe the US versions (U/U1) cannot have their boot loader unlocked which results in devices not being able to be rooted.
Yes, reading I do not think I would go with the exynos version. If you are in the US, you need to be aware of the bands it covers too.
I don’t even know where I should look for one that I can root. It’s so confusing compared where I’m coming from having a jailbroken iPhone. So I’m new to the android scene and wanna learn.
Tangotime said:
You don't particularly need an exynos version to be rooted. I've got the SM-S908E/DS version which is the international Snapdragon variant. I got lucky because we've only had exynos versions in Saudi Arabia for years. And I actually thought I had the exynos 2200 when I bought mine.
I've achieved root through patching the AP file from the original firmware using magisk. https://www.droidwin.com/how-to-root-samsung-galaxy-s22-ultra-via-magisk-patched-ap/
You also should check Dr ketans thread as you might find a pre patched AP file that matches your build.
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Where did you get your phone? I’ve heard the snapdragon was the best version to get.
Are you in the US? What provider do you use?
dalepl said:
Are you in the US? What provider do you use?
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Yes I am, t-mobile.
May I ask what your reason for needing root? The US SD variant works real good out of the box. You can disable or hide most apps on the phone. Those that you cannot disable, you can use ADB AppControl to disable without having root.
Also, if you root and remove apps or load a custom rom, you can (probably will) loose the ability to update the OS. You will have to rely on the developer of the ROM you installed to update his ROM with the new updates. One other thing is if you root you will loose knox and it is not recoverable. Without knox you will loose the ability to use the health and pay services.
Just saying.
dalepl said:
May I ask what your reason for needing root? The US SD variant works real good out of the box. You can disable or hide most apps on the phone. Those that you cannot disable, you can use ADB AppControl to disable without having root.
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I need to be rooted to spoof Pokèmon go, plus I enjoy the freedom of a rooted phone. I have a rooted google pixel 4 xl that I bought off eBay that I spoof with. I like the rooted android better then my jailbroken iPhone. So I just want a rooted android as my primary phone now. Plus I want something similar to my iPhone 13 pro max.
Fair enough. I did edit my post, so you may want to see what else I said. There are pluses and minuses to rooting. Samsung and the carriers are making it harder and harder to root the Samsung (US version) devices. Also, for most loosing knox is a big deal.
May I ask what you mean by spoof Pokemon Go?
dalepl said:
Fair enough. I did edit my post, so you may want to see what else I said. There are pluses and minuses to rooting. Samsung and the carriers are making it harder and harder to root the Samsung (US version) devices. Also, for most loosing knox is a big deal.
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Yeah I don’t mine losing that.
dalepl said:
May I ask what you mean by spoof Pokemon Go?
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Faking location, going wherever I want in the world to catch pokémon. I work a lot so don’t have much time to play legit. You can’t do it without a rooted phone. Just something I enjoy.