Best stock Oreo ROM to downgrade to? Giving up on Pie for now. - Sony Xperia XZ Premium Questions & Answers

I'm ready to give up on Pie for now, but not ready to unlock the boot loader and go for custom ROMs. So, I think the last stock Oreo release was 47.1.A.16.20? So I think I want to find G8142_1308-6041_47.1.A.16.20-R4B_Customized_US.ftf and flash that with newflasher but I can't find that FRF anywhere. Any hints or suggestions? Maybe just bite the bullet and backup the DRM, unlock, and flash a custom ROM instead?
Problems in Pie on my G8142:
1. Many apps stop updating the screen if you have the screen lock set to None and turn the screen off/on a few times. Fixes for a while if you switch to another program and back. Doesn't happen if you have a screen lock enabled (even Swipe to unlock) but I don't like that. Seen it happen in Bumble, Tinder, OS Settings, Chrome (except there the web page goes black instead of maintaining the previous screen), Piktures (black screen instead of maintaining the image, like Chrome), Timely (where the countdown timer is still running, just the screen isn\'t updating to show that), Play Store, and Acrobat Reader. Even got it to happen IN THE INITIAL PHONE SETUP APP before connecting to my Google account when I reset to see if that helped.
2. Some apps don't work correctly on wireless data (TextNow and 2nd Line VOIP apps won't dial out or take inbound calls if not on WiFi on Pie, Waze loses connection every time you move from WiFi to wireless so you have to exit and re-open once you are out of WiFi range - though I'm not sure if this is exclusive to Pie or not, Grindr can't send or receive chats outside of WiFi - just shows Disconnected.)
3. Pie disabled call recording apps.

I don't have any of these problems and I'm on pie. I guess if u wanna stay on stock oreo u can. But pie doesn't even require drm keys anymore. I'm on lineage stock of pie and haven't wanted to go back to oreo since

lonewolfbtown said:
I don't have any of these problems and I'm on pie. I guess if u wanna stay on stock oreo u can. But pie doesn't even require drm keys anymore. I'm on lineage stock of pie and haven't wanted to go back to oreo since
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Interesting! What do you mean by "pie doesn't even require drm keys anymore"? You mean a custom ROM with the DRM fix included? And good to know that lineage stock pie doesn't have these problems, I'm pretty interested in doing that in the smarted way possible.

rlowens said:
Interesting! What do you mean by "pie doesn't even require drm keys anymore"? You mean a custom ROM with the DRM fix included? And good to know that lineage stock pie doesn't have these problems, I'm pretty interested in doing that in the smarted way possible.
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Sony no longer penalizes you for rooting ur phone.

lonewolfbtown said:
Sony no longer penalizes you for rooting ur phone.
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Nice! When did that change? I'd like to read more about that.
Also, I'll go look for the current Lineage install steps. Unless you happen to have that link handy?

rlowens said:
Nice! When did that change? I'd like to read more about that.
Also, I'll go look for the current Lineage install steps. Unless you happen to have that link handy?
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I don't have it handy. Sony decided that before the release of pie. The Los ROM should be In one of the categories below in the forums

lonewolfbtown said:
Sony no longer penalizes you for rooting ur phone.
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That's not quite correct, the camera now works with or without DRM. There are still a couple of other higher function softwares that are disabled, including the bravia engine (X-Reality, Super Vivid) and HD for Netflix. There might also be some audio extras that don't work as well, like DSEE HX and ClearAudio+, but I'm not sure and would like for somebody to correct me on that.

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That's not quite correct, the camera now works with or without DRM. There are still a couple of other higher function softwares that are disabled, including the bravia engine (X-Reality, Super Vivid) and HD for Netflix. There might also be some audio extras that don't work as well, like DSEE HX and ClearAudio+, but I'm not sure and would like for somebody to correct me on that.
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Yeah your right. Basically what he said is correct.

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[Q] Custom KK quick-settings / tiles without root?

Just got my N5 yesterday and I love pretty much everything about it. One tiny thing I miss coming from CM 10.2 on my old phone, is the ability to customize the "tiles" in the notification curtain. You know, when you do a 2-finger pulldown and it shows tiles to toggle wifi, airplane mode, bluetooth, etc... what do you call that anyway? Is there an "official" name for it?
Anyway, a few of my old favorites are missing, and there's no way I can find to change what's there. I'd especially like a "torch" (flashlight) toggle -- I used to use that all the time. I know there are some apps that can install a toggle bar at the top of the notification curtain in older Android versions, but it seems silly to have 2 separate groups of toggles, one on each "side" of the curtain, just because the one that's already there can't be customized, and I don't know how well those play with KitKat anyway.
Ghengis042 said:
Just got my N5 yesterday and I love pretty much everything about it. One tiny thing I miss coming from CM 10.2 on my old phone, is the ability to customize the "tiles" in the notification curtain. You know, when you do a 2-finger pulldown and it shows tiles to toggle wifi, airplane mode, bluetooth, etc... what do you call that anyway? Is there an "official" name for it?
Anyway, a few of my old favorites are missing, and there's no way I can find to change what's there. I'd especially like a "torch" (flashlight) toggle -- I used to use that all the time. I know there are some apps that can install a toggle bar at the top of the notification curtain in older Android versions, but it seems silly to have 2 separate groups of toggles, one on each "side" of the curtain, just because the one that's already there can't be customized, and I don't know how well those play with KitKat anyway.
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You'd need root. Why can't you root?
root + Xposed Framework + GravityBox Xposed module
rootSU said:
You'd need root. Why can't you root?
root + Xposed Framework + GravityBox Xposed module
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I just spent a few hours setting up the phone, and it would be nice not to have to do all that over again when I unlock the bootloader (and thus lose all my data...). I guess it's only one evening's setup time, so not *such* a big deal, but the other thing is that I want to keep stock firmware / OTA updates if at all possible.
As fro Xposed, I have some concerns:
* I switched to ART just after getting the phone, because I read it improves battery life (Xposed has no plans to support ART in the near future)
* I've heard that it can have stability issues -- the reason I want OTA / stock is so I can spend as little time futzing with the phone as possible and just *use* it
* Xposed opens up some security issues, IMHO
I think if it comes down to root + xposed or just using a "plain" widget, I'll probably go with the widget.
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* I switched to ART just after getting the phone, because I read it improves battery life (Xposed has no plans to support ART in the near future)
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Correct. For me, the experimental ART feature is not worth losing Xposed for.
Ghengis042 said:
* I've heard that it can have stability issues -- the reason I want OTA / stock is so I can spend as little time futzing with the phone as possible and just *use* it
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No stability issues here
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* Xposed opens up some security issues, IMHO
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Based on what information?
You didn't address the setup-time issue -- that's one of the big ones for me. I usually have at least 40 apps installed (and yes, I actually use them!) and reconfiguring them is time consuming. I *could* futz with Titanium Backup or similar to automate some of that re-setup process, but I'd rather just avoid it in the first place if possible.
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No stability issues here
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Good to hear, at some point I might still investigate -- it's going to come down to how much customization / tweaking I really *need*.
rootSU said:
(Security issues...) Based on what information?
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I guess it's about as "dangerous" as rooting -- basically, Xposed gives modules carte blanche to do absolutely anything on your phone, and since the modules aren't distributed through a controlled / centralized store (like Google Play) and as far as I can tell aren't (always) open-source, I don't have any way to be sure they're not doing something malicious. Of course there's a bunch of other attack vectors, but installing a framework that touches every corner of the device, that then runs scripts / mods that I downloaded from some forum somewhere (no offense, guys!) on a phone that holds sensitive personal data... it just worries me a bit, y'know?
rootSU said:
You'd need root. Why can't you root?
root + Xposed Framework + GravityBox Xposed module
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What he said.
Ghengis042 said:
You didn't address the setup-time issue -- that's one of the big ones for me. I usually have at least 40 apps installed (and yes, I actually use them!) and reconfiguring them is time consuming. I *could* futz with Titanium Backup or similar to automate some of that re-setup process, but I'd rather just avoid it in the first place if possible.
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I didn't think it needed addressing? Yes you'll lose everything as we all did. You can backup with Helium to an extent. Maybe even it backs up everything. I have 300+ apps
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I guess it's about as "dangerous" as rooting -- basically, Xposed gives modules carte blanche to do absolutely anything on your phone, and since the modules aren't distributed through a controlled / centralized store (like Google Play) and as far as I can tell aren't (always) open-source, I don't have any way to be sure they're not doing something malicious. Of course there's a bunch of other attack vectors, but installing a framework that touches every corner of the device, that then runs scripts / mods that I downloaded from some forum somewhere (no offense, guys!) on a phone that holds sensitive personal data... it just worries me a bit, y'know?
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Xposed modules are still apk's and list permissions as you install them. The same sense applies as installing any apk. Read the permissions, consider the source and either install it or not. The framework doesn't touch every corner of the device. It runs everything in isolation (which is the whole point of it) but yeah that's not really relevant.
All the xposed apps are distributed via XDA, google Play or teh Xposed repo http://repo.xposed.info/module-overview - if something malicious was going on, the module wouldn't exist.
Anyway I'm not here to convince you to install it. There aren't any apps that do it though.
Hi,
Maybe not all will be functional without root but take a look at this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.j4velin.notificationToggle or https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.painless.pc.
Try these apps to see what you can/can't do with the quick settings without root.
But like it has been said, rooting your device is the best way to have (almost) all what you want.
viking37 said:
Hi,
Maybe not all will be functional without root but take a look at this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.j4velin.notificationToggle or https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.painless.pc.
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Do you know if installing a settings bar on the curtain like this will interfere with... what's the term? Extended notifications? Some apps (Pocket Casts is the first that comes to mind) will show media controls (play/pause/skip) in the notification tray, but only if they're the first entry in the list -- if anything comes above them, you can't use the controls. Is that a problem with these apps?
Re,
I'm sorry but I don't know (not tested and I'm rooted)... The best is to test by yourself and see. I just provide you a link to try to help...
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...so I can spend as little time futzing with the phone as possible and just *use* it...
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Well that doesn't sound like much fun at all.
Ghengis042 said:
You didn't address the setup-time issue -- that's one of the big ones for me. I usually have at least 40 apps installed (and yes, I actually use them!) and reconfiguring them is time consuming. I *could* futz with Titanium Backup or similar to automate some of that re-setup process, but I'd rather just avoid it in the first place if possible.
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Yes, TB Backup's fail when I backup 400+ apps and want to restore them altogether. Who would click Next and Install for 400+ times!!! For your point, ADB backup's are slow they really help for Unrooted devices and Guaranteeing safe apk+app-data for sure...

Xperia Z5 running rooted Lineage OS 14.1 , general questions

Hello! Noob here , first steps taken though, so I want to verify some stuff i read from various sources. ( sorry for long post )
1) After hours fighting with twrp not recognizing sd cards, OTG or connection to pc, finally I flashed sumire .....( at first when twrp recognized the sd , it popped error 253 i think....then i transfered files to internal storage , all good) . So,
When 15.1 launches , how to update without losing any data? ( is Lineage updater on google play a legit tool to do it?) Is it like a regular OTA update?
2) Since lineage , my speakers received a HUGE bump in volume. Should i be concerned of frying them?
3) Will a fastcharger still work with my phone?
4) Didn't backed drm keys ( shoot me for that , i deserve it) . What can i do about camera ???
5) Substratum won't work, right? Read that it throws the phone in bootloop.
Again sorry for long post !
You won't be able to do a seamless transition to 15.1. You can use titanium-backup if you wish to keep your app data but I highly suggest setting your phone up as new to avoid any issues in the future. You can keep your "Internal Storage" partition and have all your music, photos, downloads, etc and update though.
Speaker volume shouldn't be a problem, if you hear distortion I suggest turing the speakers down a tad just in case.
Qualcomm QC 2.0 should work under Lineage, there's no reason it shouldn't.
Your camera under lineage will be the same as everybody's. If you wish to return to stock rom, you can't have the same quality as you left off, though you I'm sure you can get certain mods that re-enable certain DRM key locked features (Used to do that on me Z3, when I forgot to backup my keys ).
Substratum under Lineage 14 isn't supported, sadly. Other Lineage based/AOSP roms with OMS support should work flawlessly, though most if not all OMS supported ROMS for Sumire are not as up to date as Lineage.
Thanks for the info. I don't care much about apps, as for contacs. What happens with them ????
JaKats said:
Thanks for the info. I don't care much about apps, as for contacs. What happens with them ????
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If you use gapps it should be synced to the cloud. I have used many android phones over the years and not once have I required to add contacts again as they are added as soon as I log into google.
I'm not sure where/how they are stored without cloud sync though.
Yes, i use gapps (still not sure if it was a smart move to use them but anyway )I didn't want to sync it with the cloud because i get loads of junk contacts from a skype account i have and from what i saw , i couldn't hide them like sony let me did in the official rom and app.

Pie Root

Hi,
i have read here in Forum about android pie and i cant find my answer for myself.
Is it possible to Flash rooted pie on xzp with restore the drm keys?
i know the camera is workin on pie's root, but what is with the other Issues?
Is there any Solution out there?
Best Regards
Sc0rp1on said:
Is it possible to Flash rooted pie on xzp with restore the drm keys?
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No, you can't do anything to resotre lost keys, not unless you made a backup of them first. You can fool the phone that the DRM is in place, but that's different to restoring them.
You can unlock you phone and put a custom rom on there, there are some Pie threads here on XDA, eXistenZ Pie, or LineageOS. But getting these to work isn't a simple download the rom and install it. You need to follow the instructions on the Sony unlock, then install TWRP, which will give you the ability to flash roms and recoverys.
It might be worth sticking to a stock rom and using janjan's kernel, wich will fix any DRM problems and give you compatability with Magisk
Yes, the camera does work on Pie, even with bootloader uinlocked, but there are some other features that remain disabled, but nothing important.
Thx for Reply. My Old XZP has unlocked Bootloader, Oreo Rooted within DRM Patch from XperiFix. But now, the Display is broken and the Phone is dead.
I have buy the Same Model (Locked & Fresh) and want to remove System Apps , have Root and eventually Pie. But i want to have all functions like unrooted and hoped that the time brings out new Methods for that.
I have read here, that the camera Quality gets down on pie root.
Now my Hope / Question:
Pie + Root within DRM Features (Fooled DRM is ok also) or should i Flash Oreo and use Xperi Fix again, like my old one?
Sc0rp1on said:
Thx for Reply. My Old XZP has unlocked Bootloader, Oreo Rooted within DRM Patch from XperiFix. But now, the Display is broken and the Phone is dead.
I have buy the Same Model (Locked & Fresh) and want to remove System Apps , have Root and eventually Pie. But i want to have all functions like unrooted and hoped that the time brings out new Methods for that.
I have read here, that the camera Quality gets down on pie root.
Now my Hope / Question:
Pie + Root within DRM Features (Fooled DRM is ok also) or should i Flash Oreo and use Xperi Fix again, like my old one?
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Pie or Oreo is a personal choice and you'll get people batting for both sides on the forum here.
You can stick with what you know, or go with stock Pie and use janjan's kernel, that will get you Pie build with DRM fix.
Didgesteve said:
Pie or Oreo is a personal choice and you'll get people batting for both sides on the forum here.
You can stick with what you know, or go with stock Pie and use janjan's kernel, that will get you Pie build with DRM fix.
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Thx for Answer.
I have read the thread about the kernel and pie and i cant find Information for camera Quality (i have read pie root make camera Quality bad) and about the Screen-Modus (Superlebendig / Professional/ Standard). My old Oreo Rooted One was running perfect, but i would try pie, only if i can get sure, that cam and Display works like stock Rom.
I hope you understand my english and my wishes
Sc0rp1on said:
Thx for Answer.
I have read the thread about the kernel and pie and i cant find Information for camera Quality (i have read pie root make camera Quality bad) and about the Screen-Modus (Superlebendig / Professional/ Standard). My old Oreo Rooted One was running perfect, but i would try pie, only if i can get sure, that cam and Display works like stock Rom.
I hope you understand my english and my wishes
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The camera on the Sony works perfect or it doesn't (takes green pictures), it's a myth that there is some sort of half way 'poor' quality.
There is no degradation of camera quality with rooted Pie no DRM, if you think that might be a problem then use a 'fixed' rom or kernel.
Try Pie and if you think that the camera is broken, then go back to Oreo
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The camera on the Sony works perfect or it doesn't (takes green pictures), it's a myth that there is some sort of half way 'poor' quality.
There is no degradation of camera quality with rooted Pie no DRM, if you think that might be a problem then use a 'fixed' rom or kernel.
Try Pie and if you think that the camera is broken, then go back to Oreo
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@Sc0rp1on, @Didgesteve, in my opinion, it is totally worth to backup and restore locked TA to preserve drm keys, if just only in order to be on the safe side.
The unlock procedure erases all userdata anyway, similarly as when you do downgrade to exploitable oreo...
Anyway, I am not sure about the camera quality - is it really a myth? Please see here for few pictures comparisons where differences are visible. You may visit the linked posts too for more opinions / previous discussions.
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@Sc0rp1on, @Didgesteve, in my opinion, it is totally worth to backup and restore locked TA to preserve drm keys, if just only in order to be on the safe side.
The unlock procedure erases all userdata anyway, similarly as when you do downgrade to exploitable oreo...
Anyway, I am not sure about the camera quality - is it really a myth? Please see here for few pictures comparisons where differences are visible. You may visit the linked posts too for more opinions / previous discussions.
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I wouldn't advocate anyone unlock thier phone without backing up the TA partition. but I was replying to a question.
I can't see any difference in the pictures myself and I think if there were a difference more would have been said about it.
Myself I was an early jumper and unlocked my phone before backup and restore of the DRM keys was possible, so that rather shaped which version of firmware I use. I didn't step to Pie, I stuck with Oreo and a 'fix' that keeps everything sweet.
@Didgesteve, it's not easy to do a good comparison - only those who have two phones or at least have a locked _and_ unlocked TA backup of one phone could try. Although many complain about camera quality in general.
But as you could see in the linked "xz1c locked oreo vs unlocked pie comparison" post I tried to compare having two xz1 compact phones side by side, one still locked and one with lost drm keys.
And comparing the not downsized original photo images you can clearly see some differences - which are cut to attached pictures so you can find them easier in the original files available for download.
It could have been a coincidence, but it's have been done two times in a row switching the order of the phones getting very similar results of quality difference in each trial.
So in my opinion, it might be a myth or may not.
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[MENTION=4354390]So in my opinion, it might be a myth or may not.
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It may or may not, but no one else seems to have noticed.
If you think it makes a difference then use Janjan's kernel with built in 'fix'
@Didgesteve, that "no one else seems to have noticed" - a rather big assumption of yours. There are many users complaining about xzp/xz1/xz1c camera quality in general.
But just with regard to oreo vs pie, read the xzp thread from here: post#27, particularly post#30 contains very interesting internal stuff.
I would like to believe sony stopped conditioning camera with keeping bootloader locked with pie but somehow I am not sure about that at all considering all the circumstances and my linked camera quality comparison test.
Thanks for your advice, luckily I do not need janjan's kernels as I've implemented the TA backup exploit, so both my phones can have drm keys restored (in fact one of them is still locked on purpose).
I (and anybody who saved TA-unlocked.img together with TA-locked.img) can switch easily between "drm keys restored" and "drm keys lost" states for testing/comparisons.
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@Didgesteve, that "no one else seems to have noticed" - a rather big assumption of yours. There are many users complaining about xzp/xz1/xz1c camera quality in general......
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I have 3 xz premiums running pie in my household. My wifes - never unlocked. Mine - unlocked with no ta backup. And a third one which I acquired cheaply recently - unlocked with restored original ta backup running a kernel with @j4nn's commits which hides bootloader unlock status.
The photo quality appears similar on all three devices. Maybe closer scrutiny on a pc will reveal differences.
However restoring original ta with blu hide kernel will always be the optimal solution regardless of camera quality due to the fact that it also restores widevine L1 functions (eg: screen mirroring etc.)
@shoey63, that's right, on phone's display, differences are probably not visible.
But if not zoomed out images are compared on PC, you may see some differences as my test showed.
Most people just take a quick shot to post it on a social network, there you cannot see a difference at all, as the image gets downscaled automatically - so majority may not complain.
Anyway that "restoring original ta with blu hide kernel will always be the optimal solution" is right - should behave as much as in still locked state as we can get.
Mentioning screen mirroring - does it depend on drm too in case of pie?
I tested it with oreo and it needed TA-locked restored with bootloader unlock hidden to get it working - running just kernel hiding BL unlock with lost drm keys is not enough with oreo.
I cannot test it anymore and I wonder if it still depends on drm keys with pie too or if sony dropped that dependency similarly as making camera somehow working instead of green pictures with pie.
@j4nn
Screen mirroring still is reliant on drm keys on Pie.
It won't connect with unlocked bootloader and stock kernel.
However with restored TA backup and blu hide kernel it connects without issue.
The problem with screen mirroring is just the use of HDCP.
You can disable it with persist.debug.wfd.enable=1 or persist.debug.wfd.appmonitoring=1

Question What is the benefits of Rooting these days?

I used to do it to flash firmwares but that does not seem to be prevalent any more, so why do I need to root?
I know this is a developer/modding site but I have to agree with the OP.
I come here for the general forum information that is "usually" more technical for obvious reasons. But to risk a very expensive tool for unlocking and modding....the risks far outweigh the benefits...IMO...YMMV
App & system theming (with Substratum + Swift Black, Repainter for pure system AMOLED black & Project Themer for different notification styles, lockscreen clock etc.). System-wide equaliser (currently with JamesDSP but will await VIper4Android working on A13 hopefully), system-wide ad-blocking. Revanced Youtube for background play etc.
Plus with AOSP Mods via Magisk it adds tons on features like customisable quick toggle column/row quantities + label text size, clock position, removing carrier label from status bar, long press power button screen off for torch and so much more! Plus not to mention custom rom support which whilst sometimes buggy, come with a wealth of benefits. I like to stick to stock these days with AOSP Mods & Magisk, as that module has many features and saves having any custom rom bugs (e.g. on Pixel 6 Pro, a custom rom would lose Magic Eraser whereas having a modded stock, retained it)/
I get the risks, but we do plenty of research and tread carefully and all is generally ok!
Got my Pixel 7 Pro just today and bootloader unlocked after the first OTA came through. It's now rooted and without passing safetynet currently, all cards successfully added to my Google Wallet.
Running like a dream
I used to root every one of my previous phones, but I've not done so on my Noted 10 Plus as I find Samsung Pay too useful. And rooting destroys it forever. Not sure if Google Pay still works when rooted, that may nudge me to do it.
I have no plans to root my 7 Pro when it arrives. But that may change.
Naughty boy client for Pokemon GO and system-wide AdBlock
For me the main thing is working app backup, since the Google solution is absolutely unreasonable (I have several non-play-store apps that I have had on every smartphone I've owned, and data generally isn't saved with Google anyway) But also tons of little things like being able to set a limit on battery charge level, full (to the extent still possible) filesystem access, a floating CPU monitor I like, Greenify, Island, Tasker stuff, etc.
System wide as blocking since 2012. No other phone does it better and easier.
How about Banking? I ditched rooting since all Banking apps denied to work. Workaround didn't work anymore.
Custom kernels that save on battery
Better Internet Tiles
ACC (Advanced Charging Controller) and AccA (Advanced Charging Controller App)
@siavash79's thread [MOD][Xposed+Magisk][Pre-Release] AOSP Mods - System modifications for AOSP-based Android 12+. This is a big one for me, personally.
Classic Power Menu
Swift Backup
hey_malik said:
How about Banking? I ditched rooting since all Banking apps denied to work. Workaround didn't work anymore.
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Just use their website? Or switch banks? I have my primary bank with a local outfit that doesn't care about rooting (although that's not why I got them, it certainly helps keep me there) if I need to deposit a check and everything else can be done on their mobile website.
My main reason would be for the custom Kernels and for Viper4Android. I didn't have a bunch of $ to fork out for 2 new phones so I went with Verizon so I won't be getting either unless I hit the lottery and then buy a Google Version of the P7P.
Anyone remember what made us able to root/ unlock the bootloader On the OG Verizon pixel?
Any chance of that happening on this device or should I just go ahead and do the system update that's waiting? For instance, I know the Samsung Galaxy Note Ultra 20 5G on Verizon(The Device I'm switching from) was locked down but apparently some guy on XDA started an Unlock service and would unlock it for ~$100.
I root since it's my XDA addiction!
Also add Titanium to the attached list!
bryan1854 said:
Any chance of that happening on this device or should I just go ahead and do the system update that's waiting? For instance, I know the Samsung Galaxy Note Ultra 20 5G on Verizon(The Device I'm switching from) was locked down but apparently some guy on XDA started an Unlock service and would unlock it for ~$100.
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From memory on the Verizon Pixel 1, there was a bug on Android 7.10, I believe it was, that fully just allowed us to toggle OEM unlocking on. From there it was a done deal. They patched it in 7.11. Again, from memory but it was either that or 7.11 before and 7.12 after.
And no, not likely to happen again. It would be very, very rare and like hitting the lottery. Didn't happen on the Pixel 6 Pro.
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From memory on the Verizon Pixel 1, there was a bug on Android 7.10, I believe it was, that fully just allowed us to toggle OEM unlocking on. From there it was a done deal. They patched it in 7.11. Again, from memory but it was either that or 7.11 before and 7.12 after.
And no, not likely to happen again. It would be very, very rare and like hitting the lottery. Didn't happen on the Pixel 6 Pro.
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Maybe I will contact the guy doing it for the note 20 ultra and see if he thinks whatever he's doing to those phones is possible here.
Thanks for the reply.
galaxys said:
I root since it's my XDA addiction!
Also add Titanium to the attached list!
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holy crap, when you mention "Titanium", do you mean the backup?! or even the "tweaker"? either way, aren't those EOL for years???
EtherealRemnant said:
Just use their website? Or switch banks? I have my primary bank with a local outfit that doesn't care about rooting (although that's not why I got them, it certainly helps keep me there) if I need to deposit a check and everything else can be done on their mobile website.
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I don't see how that again helps with tan apps. But sure just don't use it is always an option.
hey_malik said:
I don't see how that again helps with tan apps. But sure just don't use it is always an option.
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The reality is that forced hardware attestation and the Play Integrity API will soon put an end to the tricks used to get around detection so people will have to figure out what root is worth to them. I decided awhile ago that I can live without it. Adb pull /sdcard does a nice enough backup job for me and Google's cloud backup pulls partial app data and will restore it where applicable.
Of course it does seem that there isn't a way to disable 5G SA on Pixels without disabling 5G altogether so I may have a use for root in the end anyway, time will tell, as I get sick of being stuck on T-Mobile's slow as molasses SA when midband is available.
Well i have rooted every other phone and rooting, installing kernel or roms solve some problem where oem is lazy or will not solve. Previously i was using OnePlus 7 pro with unlocked bootloader initially with Android 9. During Android 10 i prefer to lock bootloader again as during that time i was damm busy and getting time for root and transfer data was not possible. During Android 11 Oneplus had really ****ed up, device was getting hot like frying pan in summer. I really had no choice but to unlock bootloader and installed a stable custom rom(CR Droid) . Everything was perfect. After 9-10 months i thought i willl go to stock again and lock bootloader. But to my surprise cts profile was not getting matched. My phone was constantly recognized as Google pixel 6 pro (no NFC payment and play store dont recognize netfix) . Only safety net fix with Magisk was able to fix it. What really surprise is when i again installed Oxygen OS 10 cts profile was showing match with locked bootloader and with Oxygen OS 11,12 will show CTS profile mismatch. I really don't know what i had done wrong and there is no solution for locked bootloader.
So my suggestion is if anybody really want to unlock bootloader and have magisk prefer with your secondary device.
Is it possible to unlock 5G in another countries with root while having functional google wallet?
I only do it for AdAway. Would be wonderful if I could avoid rooting for blocking ads since it makes a few apps unusable (specificly Norwegian with no rooting community support). But I'll probably root my P7P when I get it on monday.

Netlfix darks look wrong and oily with waves no matter the brightness on a13

Examples below
My widevine is L1 I have tried reboots ,changing colors from vivid to natural or cinematic etc.
I have tried factory resets.
I have tried custom roms.
Ever since a11 to a12 and a13 the problem persists.Im out of options
Edit: YouTube HDR on the other hand looks stunning....no issues at all nor prime or Disney plus, (I also tried changing quality and downlaoding) , if you take as example episodes that are very dark like warrior nun season 2 ep 4 the problem is in every scene and in 15:35 whilst the girls head is out of focus it becomes oily like in the above pictures. The only part that isn't oily I'd a part of the "angels" face
This is caused by a low color depth - the "resolution" of the color spectrum used by the encoding algorithm. Try adjusting your quality settings for something higher. Lower bitrates use a lower color resolution to save data at the expense of quality.
Menu > Account > Profile & Parental Controls > select profile > Playback Settings > select Medium or High
V0latyle said:
This is caused by a low color depth - the "resolution" of the color spectrum used by the encoding algorithm. Try adjusting your quality settings for something higher. Lower bitrates use a lower color resolution to save data at the expense of quality.
Menu > Account > Profile & Parental Controls > select profile > Playback Settings > select Medium or High
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Right.
Apologies.
I wasn't clear enough .
I tried everything sort of buying a new phone (as far as I know)
Thank you very much for replying to me but I have tried that before (other ideas would be welcome of course).
Whether it's streaming or doelaoding whether it's auto or low or high or standard.
The problem will persist.
The exception are cartoons for now like archer....haven't seen a problem but I don't think they have HDR for a cartoon (I don't even know if that's possible)
nickpatellis said:
Right.
Apologies.
I wasn't clear enough .
I tried everything sort of buying a new phone (as far as I know)
Thank you very much for replying to me but I have tried that before (other ideas would be welcome of course).
Whether it's streaming or doelaoding whether it's auto or low or high or standard.
The problem will persist.
The exception are cartoons for now like archer....haven't seen a problem but I don't think they have HDR for a cartoon (I don't even know if that's possible)
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Sign into your Netflix account on a computer and see if the same thing happens.
I suspect it might be something to do with their HDR encoding. It's not a problem with your device.
V0latyle said:
Sign into your Netflix account on a computer and see if the same thing happens.
I suspect it might be something to do with their HDR encoding. It's not a problem with your device.
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Actually it only happens on my device....I use 3 more phones one tv and on laptop and on ps4....
I don't see the problem in any of them
nickpatellis said:
Actually it only happens on my device....I use 3 more phones one tv and on laptop and on ps4....
I don't see the problem in any of them
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Considering that YouTube works properly it still doesn't sound like it is a device issue, but rather how the Netflix app is displaying things. Open a ticket with Netflix to see if they have a suggestion.
V0latyle said:
Considering that YouTube works properly it still doesn't sound like it is a device issue, but rather how the Netflix app is displaying things. Open a ticket with Netflix to see if they have a suggestion.
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So update.
I used msm to roll back to Android 11.
That fixed it.
Although I suspect that even though I was l1 the HDR didn't kick in...very weird...
After I updated to a12 the problem came back again
nickpatellis said:
So update.
I used msm to roll back to Android 11.
That fixed it.
Although I suspect that even though I was l1 the HDR didn't kick in...very weird...
After I updated to a12 the problem came back again
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Odd. Since it doesn't happen with YouTube I think it has something to do with how the Netflix app works with Android 12 on your device. For example, maybe it's the graphics/display API in Android 12, or maybe it's DRM requirements.
I wonder if it has something to do with integrity/security attestation as Netflix requires DRM. If you're willing to do more testing, roll back to Android 11, and use this app to check your Play Integrity attestation. Do the same thing for Android 12. I assume your bootloader is unlocked? Are you using Magisk?
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Odd. Since it doesn't happen with YouTube I think it has something to do with how the Netflix app works with Android 12 on your device. For example, maybe it's the graphics/display API in Android 12, or maybe it's DRM requirements.
I wonder if it has something to do with integrity/security attestation as Netflix requires DRM. If you're willing to do more testing, roll back to Android 11, and use this app to check your Play Integrity attestation. Do the same thing for Android 12. I assume your bootloader is unlocked? Are you using Magisk?
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I rolled back to a11 yesterday.
I didn't use your app cause I hadn't seen the message...I must have done so around 3 times.... Every single time my Netflix issues were replaced by a green tint all over the screen no matter the brightness.
I am using magisk in fact now I am using Android 13 custom ROM evolution x.
The problem persists
V0latyle said:
Odd. Since it doesn't happen with YouTube I think it has something to do with how the Netflix app works with Android 12 on your device. For example, maybe it's the graphics/display API in Android 12, or maybe it's DRM requirements.
I wonder if it has something to do with integrity/security attestation as Netflix requires DRM. If you're willing to do more testing, roll back to Android 11, and use this app to check your Play Integrity attestation. Do the same thing for Android 12. I assume your bootloader is unlocked? Are you using Magisk?
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Welp.
Nevermind.
I have the same problem with YouTube now...
Ex.
(I would think display issues wouldn't appear on a Screenshot right?
Most of those look fine, although I do see some blotching in the background of this one...
V0latyle said:
Most of those look fine, although I do see some blotching in the background of this one...View attachment 5780389
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You really don't see that?
Anyway whatever you see here on Netflix its 10 times worse.
And I'm not exaggerating
nickpatellis said:
You really don't see that?
Anyway whatever you see here on Netflix its 10 times worse.
And I'm not exaggerating
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Yeah, I see it. It only seems to be in the background though, I think that's normal because it helps keep the bit rate down. Notice how the foreground subject (facial features) don't show the same blotching. I have noticed this with not only streaming services but with most 720p video. I don't know if there is any way to fix it, sorry.
V0latyle said:
I believe you, I just don't know why it's happening or how to fix it. Sorry.
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That's alright man.
Appreciate you replying to me
V0latyle said:
Yeah, I see it. It only seems to be in the background though, I think that's normal because it helps keep the bit rate down. Notice how the foreground subject (facial features) don't show the same blotching. I have noticed this with not only streaming services but with most 720p video. I don't know if there is any way to fix it, sorry.
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Actually in Netflix faces have the same issue as the one above only it's almost the whole face sometimes (I believe I sent a photo of a face originally)

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