Does the screen have ghosting (low response rate)? - ASUS ZenFone 6 (2019) Questions & Answers

As it's a poor quality IPS, does the screen have any ghosting? I can't find an answer in any review. My old Oneplus 3T and dirt cheap Mi Max 2 also had IPS screens but they had zero ghosting, then I bought a Mate 20 which cost 3x more yet that DOES have ghosting, so if a high-end phone has ghosting it's likely the Zenfone 6 does too, especially if most people are saying it's a poor quality IPS.
This is the only video that mentions it has ghosting but it's the one guy, so I wanted more opinions to confirm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8EH9_BEpAA

Vicxx said:
This is the only video that mentions it has ghosting but it's the one guy, so I wanted more opinions to confirm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8EH9_BEpAA
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Did you mean this part?
https://youtu.be/U8EH9_BEpAA?t=125

I had the G5S+, where I noticed ghosting. Coming to the zenfone I was concerned about the same stuff but there is significantly less ghosting on this screen. I'm actually not sure there are ghosting, if it is its miniscule.

_jis_ said:
Did you mean this part?
https://youtu.be/U8EH9_BEpAA?t=125
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yes the way he describes it is exactly how I feel about my Mate 20, I'm thinking it might be using the same display. It's an amazing screen but as soon as I start scrolling text and images becomes blurry and I've never seen it this bad since the early 2000s LCD screens.
leiros said:
I had the G5S+, where I noticed ghosting. Coming to the zenfone I was concerned about the same stuff but there is significantly less ghosting on this screen. I'm actually not sure there are ghosting, if it is its miniscule.
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what other phones have you used? the G5S+ has an IPS so it could've had ghosting.

Vicxx said:
yes the way he describes it is exactly how I feel about my Mate 20, I'm thinking it might be using the same display. It's an amazing screen but as soon as I start scrolling text and images becomes blurry and I've never seen it this bad since the early 2000s LCD screens.
what other phones have you used? the G5S+ has an IPS so it could've had ghosting.
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Nexus 4, Galaxy S3, Xperia Z2, Lenovo P2, G5S+ and this Zenfone 6.

I just tested it side by side with the HTC U11, it's actually more fluid than that one. Though I believe it has slightly smaller viewing angles.
I also think it's PWM free, it's quite ok to watch for longer periods. For comparison, the display on the LG G7 gave me a weird sensation (that one had PWM).

kvrx said:
I just tested it side by side with the HTC U11, it's actually more fluid than that one. Though I believe it has slightly smaller viewing angles.
I also think it's PWM free, it's quite ok to watch for longer periods. For comparison, the display on the LG G7 gave me a weird sensation (that one had PWM).
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The G7 used PWM at a frequency of 1,174Hz, and then only at 42% brightness and below. If you're capable of noticing that you should go talk to Guinness about your record-breaking visual abilities.

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Grainy Screen?

Is it just me or the screen is grainy when in low light and in darker images?
same here, very disappointed in this camera
Yes , it's like a very thin layer of dust or paper is on the screen .
Raay said:
Yes , it's like a very thin layer of dust or paper is on the screen .
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I think this is common with OLED, I've only seen a handful of them though...check out another OLED device or TV in store & check for it.
Ace42 said:
I think this is common with OLED, I've only seen a handful of them though...check out another OLED device or TV in store & check for it.
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Is it a common problem or common in all oled? If it's a problem I'm going to return the phone. It's noticeable when you watch videos without light and lowest brightness.
Its common with this phone, not with oled in general.
If its just grainy then you are in luck, mine has clear vertical and horizontal lines.
I believe its called mura with oled technology.
My galaxy nexus a few years back had it way worse and i traded that in after 2 days at the store for a galaxy s3.
My galaxy s3 had perfect screen (to this day it is still perfect except for the cracks in the screen)
Trying to sell my g flex 2 as i have a taiwanese imported phone (h959 red 32gb) in europe and LG webcare refuses to help me with it (and sending it back to vendor will cost me tons of transport and import again ...).
Also LG webcare stated it was normal and even a screen replacement wouldn't fix much. So i was kind of bitter and told them they where 4 years behind on samsung in oled technology if this is normal.
Anyway, good luck with it.
WittePens said:
Its common with this phone, not with oled in general.
If its just grainy then you are in luck, mine has clear vertical and horizontal lines.
I believe its called mura with oled technology.
My galaxy nexus a few years back had it way worse and i traded that in after 2 days at the store for a galaxy s3.
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I'm not noticing any major grainy areas, at least it's less noticeable than on my Galaxy S1 & Vita. I unfortunately got one with yellowing along the bottom edge, but I can only see it on light colors.
Also the Mura effect consists of black blotches on black areas, those lines you have are something else.
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Mura is cloudy effects on the screen, eg yellow spots.
Banding is lines.
I got both and LG refuses to fix it.
POLED
WittePens said:
Its common with this phone, not with oled in general.
If its just grainy then you are in luck, mine has clear vertical and horizontal lines.
I believe its called mura with oled technology.
My galaxy nexus a few years back had it way worse and i traded that in after 2 days at the store for a galaxy s3.
My galaxy s3 had perfect screen (to this day it is still perfect except for the cracks in the screen)
Trying to sell my g flex 2 as i have a taiwanese imported phone (h959 red 32gb) in europe and LG webcare refuses to help me with it (and sending it back to vendor will cost me tons of transport and import again ...).
Also LG webcare stated it was normal and even a screen replacement wouldn't fix much. So i was kind of bitter and told them they where 4 years behind on samsung in oled technology if this is normal.
Anyway, good luck with it.
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Yes, true, it is common with this phone and not with OLED technology in general. Now, what else you need to note is that this phone uses POLED type of display. POLED differs with regular AMOLED and OLED display technology in the plastic substrate that employs as opposed to the glass substrate in regular AMOLED/OLED displays, hence the letter "P" in POLED. Plastic is used to make the display bendable and this POLED technology by LG is not perfected yet. I do not know if Samsung uses POLED for S6 Edge, S6 Edge Plus and Note Edge, if they indeed use plastic substrate in their curved displays, then your claim that LG is behind in this tech. is true. I think i've read somewhere that Samsung uses normal display tech in their curved mobile displays, but i cannot remember what website hosted this article.
I own LG 55EC9300 OLED TV and i can tell you that LG's regular OLED tech. is as good as Samsung's. This is not straightforward correlation with mobile display tech. since i do not know of any OLED based phone of LG. My opinion is that LG's normal OLED tech. is just fine, just that they need to polish this POLED tech.
Mine's screen is ok on minimal brightness, however it is too bright on minimal and use Twilight. And than the screen is really grainy. But there is no way around it, 0% brightness is too much at night. I hate that. And there is too much white GUI. We need more BLACKS.
itflexes said:
Is it just me or the screen is grainy when in low light and in darker images?
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Coming from G2 to G Flex 2 I really noticed non-uniform solid colors on G Flex 2 and I found two solutions: raise average brightness (grain is much more noticeable on lower brightness setting) and get used to it. Really, second option helped me a lot, my eyes got used to this screen within a week and now I don't notice it and happy with overall screen quality. I understand that second solution is not for everyone.
wishod said:
Coming from G2 to G Flex 2 I really noticed non-uniform solid colors on G Flex 2 and I found two solutions: raise average brightness (grain is much more noticeable on lower brightness setting) and get used to it. Really, second option helped me a lot, my eyes got used to this screen within a week and now I don't notice it and happy with overall screen quality. I understand that second solution is not for everyone.
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yeah same here, i hardly notice it anymore. also coming from a nexus 5, the flex 2 screen is way way superior
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Mine's screen is ok on minimal brightness, however it is too bright on minimal and use Twilight. And than the screen is really grainy. But there is no way around it, 0% brightness is too much at night. I hate that. And there is too much white GUI. We need more BLACKS.
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i agree. i use the app darker now. in lowest setting it's usable. but more black in GUI would bee better

Lack of OLED is a disappointment

LG is falling behind in the smartphone display world. My Note7 is the best phone display I have ever had, by far, and that is no exaggeration. Yet here we are with another flagship release by LG who are using dated technology on the most important component of a phone - the display. IPS contrast sucks. Contrast is a huge deciding factor in image quality - perhaps the most important. Additionally, LCDs and IPS in particular have substantial pixel response motion blur over AMOLED. I HAD to return my HTC 10 because I couldn't stand using the display with how muddy it looked compared to the AMOLED on my 6P, even though HTC touted their display as having a fast response rate. Simple actions like pulling down the notification shade produced easily noticeable differences between the devices. LG is well aware of how great OLED is - they invest billions in their OLED TV division. I have spent $7,000 this year between their 65" and 55" OLED TVs, and they are mind-blowing. LG needs to either purchase Samsung display panels, or invest in their seriously lacking mobile division, because they're going to end up like HTC sooner or later at this rate.
I hope this IPS panel is at least an improvement. The contrast is likely no better than 2000:1, which is great for an IPS, but poor overall. I'm not stoked about the always-on-display in the ticker area either. It is far less useful than the G5's or Note7's - another step backwards. And at night, LCD always-on-displays also look like crap with tons of halo/light bleed. The lack of detailed performance specs at the launch event was disappointing. Using the SD 820 was a poor choice, and you could have easily thrown 6GB of RAM in there. And launching in a few weeks is idiotic as well. They could have capitalized on the Note7's recall and gotten their device out before the iPhone 7 if they wanted to. We'll be lucky to have it by October. There better be a decent promotion, because I am on the fence about buying this phone with its poor display, less than stellar battery (even if replaceable), lack of water resistance, and ugly UI. I must give credit where it is due, and that is the audio and camera capabilities are out of this world (except for the 5 MP front camera - WHY) - and I appreciate them destroying the competition in those VERY important areas., and keeping a removable battery with a premium and durable design. But this phone could have been the best of 2016 if they wanted it to be. This phone hardly has any advantage over the Axon 7 for far less cash.
In their defense, LG manufactures MANY flat panel TVs with excellent picture quality. I suspect their choices of phone screens are based upon energy consumption, cost effectiveness, and the plain ole theory that such a small size doesn't require an extravagantly engineered screen. Don't get me wrong, I love a super-amoled / OLED screen personally. When I compared the S7 vs my G5, I honestly was like....hmmmmmmmmmm, wish I had that screen though.. LOL
But from what I have read, the V20 screen is supposed to be far superior to that of the V10.
AMOLED has a major minus: screen burn, and the white turns muddy over time.
G Flex used to have AMOLED, but it turned out LG abandons it.
mingkee said:
AMOLED has a major minus: screen burn, and the white turns muddy over time.
G Flex used to have AMOLED, but it turned out LG abandons it.
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AMOLED doesn't burn in normal use conditions anymore - this isn't 2012. The white also does not turn "muddy" over time - whatever the hell that means. You're making stuff up. Sure, some panels have had white uniformity issues... but Samsung may be resolving that as my Note7 is literally perfect. There is no defense for LG here. They either were too cheap to invest in their mobile division's display panels, or they are behind in their mobile division... which is funny considering they make the best OLED TVs in the world. Basically the only OLED TVs.
I've had an OLED display with my Note 2, 3, and 4. I too had hoped that LG was going with OLED this time for the V20, since they do make OLED TVs, but instead looks like they are still using the same LCD that is on the V10. At least Samsung stepped up the OLED on the Note 7 to support HDR.
You're very unlikely to see any light bleed on a high quality IPS-screen. I've never seen light bleed on an iPhone for example, but I had really bad light bleed on my Nexus 5. I also have absolutely zero light bleed on my OnePlus One.
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You're very unlikely to see any light bleed on a high quality IPS-screen. I've never seen light bleed on an iPhone for example, but I had really bad light bleed on my Nexus 5. I also have absolutely zero light bleed on my OnePlus One.
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The v10 had significant light bleed from the second screen.
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AMOLED doesn't burn in normal use conditions anymore - this isn't 2012.
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Can you please explain further?
Don't all amoled screens burn in regardless of use because of it's organic components?
mekanismen said:
You're very unlikely to see any light bleed on a high quality IPS-screen. I've never seen light bleed on an iPhone for example, but I had really bad light bleed on my Nexus 5. I also have absolutely zero light bleed on my OnePlus One.
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I had a G4 and V10 both with terrible light bleed on a corner that I had to exchange. Also, IPS glow is a huge problem, and at night you don't get true blacks which is especially distracting with the second screen.
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The v10 had significant light bleed from the second screen.
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Exactly.
Sharpshooterrr said:
Can you please explain further?
Don't all amoled screens burn in regardless of use because of it's organic components?
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That isn't burn in. Burn in is permanent image retention and an actual ghost image always being on the display. You may be thinking of OLED wear over time, becoming less bright - but it takes a significant amount of time for this. Theoretically I suppose if you used an OLED display for several hundred thousand hours it could eventually get so dim that you wouldn't want to use it anymore. But you are never going to hit that amount of hours. You will have moved onto something else long before then.
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Can you please explain further?
Don't all amoled screens burn in regardless of use because of it's organic components?
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My Galaxy S1 equivalent screen on my Samsung Epic was used 3 straight years as primary phone and didn't fade or burn-in.
I've read cliches' like this for years and mostly do not agree. The limitation I saw with using the older 2010 era Amoled screen was screen brightness in daylight. That's no longer an issue with newer Amoled panels since 2014 and always improving to the point Samsung Amoled panels exceed LCD panels in virtually every use category including brightness and efficiency.
Other users have experienced burn-in. My mother-in-law burned her S6 screen by charging phone and playing solitaire at same time. Not sure but I think fast charging was enabled. Heat combined with images that are continually displayed and not pixel shifted factor heavily with burn-in. So yes, it's possible but never happened to me. (Samsung does utilize pixel shift in the status bar to prevent burn-in. I'm unaware if pixel shift is used in third party applications like solitaire; her game used white cards on green background. Card images were retained and didn't respond to typical scrolling images to alleviate it.)
I don't use fast charging unless needed. Temperature can be bad on battery and display. I also try to avoid using my phone while in early stages of charging but my Note 4 does revert to slow charging when display is on.
IIRC, I read LG was transitioning to Amoled screens in late 2017. Apple is rumored to be switching to Amoled as well.
I've been known to squeeze 9 hours screen on time on my Note 4's stock 3220mah sized battery when mostly browsing on a single charge. Very much wanted the Note7 but locked bootloader kept me away before their battery became a headline exploding issue. Was also disappointed with edge only screen version and sealed battery. What an open for LG! I looked to LG to address shortcomings but lack of Amoled screen and locked bootloader prospect have me still looking and undecided for 2016 offerings thus far.
I may consider V20 if the bootloader was unlocked to allow TWRP and custom kernels. But I'd miss the Amoled screen. The battery door latch is cool though; I didn't want to lose removable battery feature and see little reason to trust Samsung's batteries to last 24 months without a letdown.
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Nitemare3219 said:
LG is falling behind in the smartphone display world. My Note7 is the best phone display I have ever had, by far, and that is no exaggeration. Yet here we are with another flagship release by LG who are using dated technology on the most important component of a phone - the display. IPS contrast sucks. Contrast is a huge deciding factor in image quality - perhaps the most important. Additionally, LCDs and IPS in particular have substantial pixel response motion blur over AMOLED. I HAD to return my HTC 10 because I couldn't stand using the display with how muddy it looked compared to the AMOLED on my 6P, even though HTC touted their display as having a fast response rate. Simple actions like pulling down the notification shade produced easily noticeable differences between the devices. LG is well aware of how great OLED is - they invest billions in their OLED TV division. I have spent $7,000 this year between their 65" and 55" OLED TVs, and they are mind-blowing. LG needs to either purchase Samsung display panels, or invest in their seriously lacking mobile division, because they're going to end up like HTC sooner or later at this rate.
I hope this IPS panel is at least an improvement. The contrast is likely no better than 2000:1, which is great for an IPS, but poor overall. I'm not stoked about the always-on-display in the ticker area either. It is far less useful than the G5's or Note7's - another step backwards. And at night, LCD always-on-displays also look like crap with tons of halo/light bleed. The lack of detailed performance specs at the launch event was disappointing. Using the SD 820 was a poor choice, and you could have easily thrown 6GB of RAM in there. And launching in a few weeks is idiotic as well. They could have capitalized on the Note7's recall and gotten their device out before the iPhone 7 if they wanted to. We'll be lucky to have it by October. There better be a decent promotion, because I am on the fence about buying this phone with its poor display, less than stellar battery (even if replaceable), lack of water resistance, and ugly UI. I must give credit where it is due, and that is the audio and camera capabilities are out of this world (except for the 5 MP front camera - WHY) - and I appreciate them destroying the competition in those VERY important areas., and keeping a removable battery with a premium and durable design. But this phone could have been the best of 2016 if they wanted it to be. This phone hardly has any advantage over the Axon 7 for far less cash.
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Would the v20 screen be less bright than the N7?
Nitemare3219 said:
AMOLED doesn't burn in normal use conditions anymore - this isn't 2012.
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Yes, it is 2016 and burn in at OLED displays still occurs and will occur. No matter how it's called (supertrooper amoled etc). At my SG7E, I got burn in after 10 days - I used Waze 2 hours every day; brightness at 50% etc. I've been told thay would replace a display as it was in warranty, but I decided to get money back (14 days period) and I will never go for OLED again.
ISP was what has me interested in this device, despite swearing LG off. I do not like OLED, mostly for the burn in issue. Yes, the technology has improved but burn in still exists.
Regarding the screen, I do have one question. It's touted as having a 5.7 inch screen but isn't part of that the second screen? If you can't shut off the second screen and use that space for displaying what's on the main screen, then the device has a 5.5 inch screen, not 5.7.
Should be the main screen that is 5.7 inches. That's how the v10 is. With the second screen it's closer to 5.9"
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That's be nice. A competitive price and I could be swayed back to LG, provided they offer an unlocked model and do so reasonabley quick.
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ISP was what has me interested in this device, despite swearing LG off. I do not like OLED, mostly for the burn in issue. Yes, the technology has improved but burn in still exists.
Regarding the screen, I do have one question. It's touted as having a 5.7 inch screen but isn't part of that the second screen? If you can't shut off the second screen and use that space for displaying what's on the main screen, then the device has a 5.5 inch screen, not 5.7.
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The V10 an V20 really have one LCD. It is just partitioned into the main 5.7" display, and the top ticker display.
I'm glad that they decided on LCD instead of AMOLED. Despite what has been said in this thread, burn-in is still happening especially when on screen navigation buttons are used. That's why Samsung avoids them. Also uneven degradation happens fairly quick when the status bar is black, which is the case with many apps such as Chrome.
I for one am happy that LG using IPS instead of OLED because the majority of OLED screens flicker at 240hz, which causes eye problems I seem to have eye damage and cannot use OLED screens at all.
I wrote more info about this problem here
I have an amoled burn in in the top of my screen note 3 and 4
Technically it's brighter since the white isn't usually used, the rest of the screen lost a couple percent brightness
It's amoled ageing not burn in. I'm probably getting a v20 if it's rootable. Almost got a note 7 but can't stand no root, sealed battery and fires. I'll admit I'd rather have amoled but ips is ok. Kinda sucks on nexus 5, hope v20 is much better.
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LG is falling behind in the smartphone display world. My Note7 is the best phone display I have ever had, by far, and that is no exaggeration. Yet here we are with another flagship release by LG who are using dated technology on the most important component of a phone - the display. IPS contrast sucks. Contrast is a huge deciding factor in image quality - perhaps the most important. Additionally, LCDs and IPS in particular have substantial pixel response motion blur over AMOLED. I HAD to return my HTC 10 because I couldn't stand using the display with how muddy it looked compared to the AMOLED on my 6P, even though HTC touted their display as having a fast response rate. Simple actions like pulling down the notification shade produced easily noticeable differences between the devices. LG is well aware of how great OLED is - they invest billions in their OLED TV division. I have spent $7,000 this year between their 65" and 55" OLED TVs, and they are mind-blowing. LG needs to either purchase Samsung display panels, or invest in their seriously lacking mobile division, because they're going to end up like HTC sooner or later at this rate.
I hope this IPS panel is at least an improvement. The contrast is likely no better than 2000:1, which is great for an IPS, but poor overall. I'm not stoked about the always-on-display in the ticker area either. It is far less useful than the G5's or Note7's - another step backwards. And at night, LCD always-on-displays also look like crap with tons of halo/light bleed. The lack of detailed performance specs at the launch event was disappointing. Using the SD 820 was a poor choice, and you could have easily thrown 6GB of RAM in there. And launching in a few weeks is idiotic as well. They could have capitalized on the Note7's recall and gotten their device out before the iPhone 7 if they wanted to. We'll be lucky to have it by October. There better be a decent promotion, because I am on the fence about buying this phone with its poor display, less than stellar battery (even if replaceable), lack of water resistance, and ugly UI. I must give credit where it is due, and that is the audio and camera capabilities are out of this world (except for the 5 MP front camera - WHY) - and I appreciate them destroying the competition in those VERY important areas., and keeping a removable battery with a premium and durable design. But this phone could have been the best of 2016 if they wanted it to be. This phone hardly has any advantage over the Axon 7 for far less cash.
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Non-full rgb amoled's are garbage. IPS is superior. Nothing to see here.

OP3 vs OP6 Display

So I've had the op3 since it's launch in 2016 and it's been a great phone that has slowly deteriorated in recent times in terms of battery life especially and I've become less impressed with it's display recently especially when I compared it to a Nokia 7 plus display which is 402 ppi and LCD,but I found the display noticably crisper on it compared to the op3
My op6 is on its way now and I'm hoping to see a good difference in the display.I see that the display for op6 is also 402 ppi compared to 401 on the op3.
The op3 display is okay but colors kind of look washed out at times and the blacks don't look that black, It's never sharp and crisp,
Has anyone compared the two and found a noticable difference,maybe the display has gotten better since the op5 ??
Supposedly the op6 has a surprisingly good display for only being 1080p.
I'm coming from a Galaxy S8 with a QHD screen and find the OP6 screen to be perfectly crisp and fine, loving it
I also came from a QHD Samsung. The OP6 display is great, despite the lower resolution.
One criticism of it would be the max brightness is hardly enough outdoors. Just a little brighter would help. Samsung was much brighter, but I've never seen a OP3 to compare with. Otherwise, the OP6 display is nice.
I compared them both side-by-side.. Not a lot of difference in terms of sharpness.. Better color reproduction on op6.. Whites are more pronounced,a bit brighter too.
I'm coming from a 3t and I was surprised by how big of a difference there is, somehow op6 screen looks much sharper
Samsung and apple before going QHD (or "retina"): "That's just a meme no one actually needs that!"
Them now: "Everyone else's phone sucks ass we have way more pixels than them lolololololol!"
It's decent 1080p, great depending on what phone you coming from. Not usable on bright sunny days. Been a week and eyes still trying to adjust.
Perfer my note 8 screen. Night and day. Take 30minutes less of sot.
manus31 said:
So I've had the op3 since it's launch in 2016 and it's been a great phone that has slowly deteriorated in recent times in terms of battery life especially and I've become less impressed with it's display recently especially when I compared it to a Nokia 7 plus display which is 402 ppi and LCD,but I found the display noticably crisper on it compared to the op3
My op6 is on its way now and I'm hoping to see a good difference in the display.I see that the display for op6 is also 402 ppi compared to 401 on the op3.
The op3 display is okay but colors kind of look washed out at times and the blacks don't look that black, It's never sharp and crisp,
Has anyone compared the two and found a noticable difference,maybe the display has gotten better since the op5 ??
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I came from OnePlus 3t and the difference was unbelievable , brightness in daylight is much better, lower brightness at night is more achievable and the biggest difference I found between the 2 when put next to each other is the whites. After 1.5 year the 3T gives a yellowish white while the 6 gives a true white color
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I came from OnePlus 3t and the difference was unbelievable , brightness in daylight is much better, lower brightness at night is more achievable and the biggest difference I found between the 2 when put next to each other is the whites. After 1.5 year the 3T gives a yellowish white while the 6 gives a true white color
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Sounds promising,looking forward to comparing to my op3 when my six finally arrives this week.I do notice the yellowy,gray whites on the op3
Got my op6 this morning,don't see any great difference in display,so far not really impressed with the phone at all,pretty much the same as op3 with faster processor
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I'm coming from a Galaxy S8 with a QHD screen and find the OP6 screen to be perfectly crisp and fine, loving it
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That's great to hear. I've had to pay for a VERY expensive screen replacement on my S8 because there were no tempered glass protectors available. I just cannot bear to use a naked screen for fear of micro scratches.
My OP6 will be delivered tomorrow.
I have a request to make. How does netflix and prime video play on the OP6? does it play in HD ? The 5T had problems playing HD content when it released and none of the reviews of the 6 ive seen talk about that.
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Got my op6 this morning,don't see any great difference in display,so far not really impressed with the phone at all,pretty much the same as op3 with faster processor
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there are so many differences between these two phones...
design, camera, features, soc, size, notch, treble, seamless updates, no home button...
How can you say its the same phone with another SoC?
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there are so many differences between these two phones...
design, camera, features, soc, size, notch, treble, seamless updates, no home button...
How can you say its the same phone with another SoC?
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Well...because it is still rectangular !
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there are so many differences between these two phones...
design, camera, features, soc, size, notch, treble, seamless updates, no home button...
How can you say its the same phone with another SoC?
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Yes,all this is true,I was referring more to the display,it's pretty much the same as the op3,the user experience also, I notice zero improvement in speed,although I know there is, battery is pretty much the same for me so far too,saying all that though I'm still happy because I know OnePlus will continue to optimize
Have the op6 over a week now and the display is definitely better somewhat than the op3.
Do think that content has a lot to do with it,hd images look much more crisp than ones with standard definition.
For example the OnePlus stock wallpapers don't look that great and are washed out,but if I use wallpapers from apps like backgrounds and Zedge they look amazing
I also came from OP3. The display on OP6 is much much better. OP6 screen is better outdoor compare to the 3.
The OP6 is very fluid.
I am actually dissapointed with OP 6 display to the point I am thinking of selling the phone. What bothers me the most is the PWM brighteness regulation bellow 25% witch such a low frequency. But I read it is common for all OLEDs so if you were happy with OP 3 you will be with this one.
manus31 said:
Got my op6 this morning,don't see any great difference in display,so far not really impressed with the phone at all,pretty much the same as op3 with faster processor
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This.
I also came from OP3. Compared the display side by side, and to be honest, there is barely a difference. The biggest difference is that the OP6 is better in daylight. I would say the display picture quality has not moved much since the 2016.
The biggest difference for me was the battery life. I simply love it.
TheNetwork said:
Samsung and apple before going QHD (or "retina"): "That's just a meme no one actually needs that!"
Them now: "Everyone else's phone sucks ass we have way more pixels than them lolololololol!"
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A meme? you mean a gimmick? Lol

V30

Now that my view 20 has got Android 10, it has got even better but that new View 30 looks amazing.
Anyone going to upgrade to the view 30?
Not me as v20 is still a solid performer. Probably will stay with this for another few months before i plan. Also, lets see about the global launch due to ban thing [emoji19], so no clarity over it yet.
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Initially I was interested in upgrading to the V30 Pro, but when they announced that both models in the V30 series would use LCD instead of OLED that put me off so I ended up switching to the P30 Pro.
NekoMichi said:
Initially I was interested in upgrading to the V30 Pro, but when they announced that both models in the V30 series would use LCD instead of OLED that put me off so I ended up switching to the P30 Pro.
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What do you dislike about LCD?
DJW35 said:
What do you dislike about LCD?
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LCDs can't display true black, whereas the improved contrast ratio of an OLED make it much easier on the eyes, especially when viewing at night. OLEDs also tend to be easier to read under bright sunlight as well as saving some battery compared to LCDs. While it's possible to have an always-on display for both OLEDs and LCDs, it will consume far more battery power on an LCD than an OLED.
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LCDs can't display true black, whereas the improved contrast ratio of an OLED make it much easier on the eyes, especially when viewing at night. OLEDs also tend to be easier to read under bright sunlight as well as saving some battery compared to LCDs. While it's possible to have an always-on display for both OLEDs and LCDs, it will consume far more battery power on an LCD than an OLED.
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LCDs are brighter, white looks better on LCDs, colour saturation and colors looking more true-to-life or another strength of LCD, LCD screens also save moneyand most of all LCD screens don't have burn in as bad as OLED screens.
Both have their advantages and disadvantages
DJW35 said:
Now that my view 20 has got Android 10, it has got even better but that new View 30 looks amazing.
Anyone going to upgrade to the view 30?
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Still waiting for android 10 on my device. ?
I am disappointed because of the v20 alternative roms non support.
No kernel sources, no bootloader unlock, no custom roms.
I love the hardware and the debloated rom is ok.
But instead of a v30 I will seek for a more open device like mi 9t pro or OnePlus ...

Yellowish overtone

Anyone else notice that there is a very slight yellowish overtone to blacks in some apps like YouTube with dark mode turned on and chrome with dark? If you compare it to the note 10+ or s10+, you'll see that the blacks are a bit deeper on those. I ordered two phones and it's the same thing. Erica the technology nerd even pointed it out. Is it because of the new amoled screen? It's not really a big deal since it's slight, but pointing it out.
Erica's video:- https://youtu.be/OTTv-NkBSgc
You'll notice it if you compare with other phones. So don't compare and you won't notice.
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Mrplennium said:
Anyone else notice that there is a very slight yellowish overtone to blacks in some apps like YouTube with dark mode turned on and chrome with dark? If you compare it to the note 10+ or s10+, you'll see that the blacks are a bit deeper on those. I ordered two phones and it's the same thing. Erica the technology nerd even pointed it out. Is it because of the new amoled screen? It's not really a big deal since it's slight, but pointing it out.
Erica's video:- https://youtu.be/OTTv-NkBSgc
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Yep it's got a green tint to the whites especially in 120hz. It's weird. More noticeable on snapdragon units.
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You'll notice it if you compare with other phones. So don't compare and you won't notice.
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Good advice for so many things in life... :laugh::laugh:
pafc66 said:
Yep it's got a green tint to the whites especially in 120hz. It's weird. More noticeable on snapdragon units.
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Yeah, I understand that there was a similar issue with the S20 ultra. Hopefully Samsung issue a software update for it. It's not a big deal since it's extremely slight on both units, but there is definitely consistency across all note 20 ultra I believe after coming across 3 units.
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Yeah, I understand that there was a similar issue with the S20 ultra. Hopefully Samsung issue a software update for it. It's not a big deal since it's extremely slight on both units, but there is definitely consistency across all note 20 ultra I believe after coming across 3 units.
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Are they snapdragon units you've come across?
I think it's a hardware issue. Don't think a ota will fix it
pafc66 said:
Yep it's got a green tint to the whites especially in 120hz. It's weird. More noticeable on snapdragon units.
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pafc66 said:
Are they snapdragon units you've come across?
I think it's a hardware issue. Don't think a ota will fix it
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Yup, they are all snapdragon. All 3 pretty much look the same. It's very even on all 3 models I must say. No uneven coloring on whites or blacks. I can see why you and others would say it looks greenish. It looks like some mixture of green and yellow. It's not horrible to be honest, just looks a tad noticeable when comparing it to other devices like the punchier s10 plus or note 10 plus. It's like op said, if you don't compare them you don't really see it. Just wish Samsung had done better with the calibration of the screens. If it's hardware, then it's due to the new screens used. I am pretty sure most if not all snapdragon Note 20 ultra suffers from this.

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