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Hey.
Just wondering with people out there. if you check under running services, how much are processes taking up and how much free do you see on average.
I see 150-170mb
140-160 free
Are these numbers normal is what I'm looking forward to see.
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127MB used 179MB free
Is that avg? I get that right after I reboot my phone. After some use it pops to 150+
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Is that avg? I get that right after I reboot my phone. After some use it pops to 150+
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no thats just what it was at that time.
its now 130MB used 177MB free.
no reboot.
I hover around 90ish used 210ish free most of the time. I close apps by back buttoning out of them when I'm done instead of home button.
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Holy crap. I avg about 160 used. Idk if battery life is an issue though. Been getting ~15 hrs on moderate use.
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WHOAA! 160s and some even in 200s?
I get a max of 170-ish at boot, and soon after some use, it deteriorates to to 60s and 70s range...
i reboot my phone once every 1-2 days ... but i constantly ensure there are no background apps running using the task-manager app...
any tips to help me out guys?
EDIT: sorry - i was looking at "Free memory" as shown under the "Advanced Task Killer" app ... while the OP was talking about free memory shown under the 'Running services' screen ..
that screen shows me around 130-145 ish
From what I hear atk are bad for your phone causing the CPU to be used more to end these tasks that aren't ready to be killed. I suggest you let your CPU run off its terminate code on its on. I'm confident you'll find the stock task manager to be efficient and effective.
Anyways, back to services. Seems like nightly #19 is better taking care of my services. Got it to drop to 120 consistently and staying there.
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From what I hear atk are bad for your phone causing the CPU to be used more to end these tasks that aren't ready to be killed. I suggest you let your CPU run off its terminate code on its on. I'm confident you'll find the stock task manager to be efficient and effective.
Anyways, back to services. Seems like nightly #19 is better taking care of my services. Got it to drop to 120 consistently and staying there.
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mmmm..interesting..
i just checked the built-in battery-usage app to see what's consuming power... and ATK hasn't popped on there (yet) ... but I do rememebr seeing it once or twice with a 2-3% figure next to it..
I will try to keep it off tomorrow and use the stock task manager... lets see if that improves battery life by any chance..
i'm not sure that task managers will show up in the android list of used battery processes. but i can tell you that using task killer is a bad idea, and can lead to shorter battery life, because the OS constantly opens up apps. and the task killer is just fighting the OS killing them again, which is an endless cycle using up cpu power. these apps are periodically loaded as "empty processes" and usually will show as background on a task killer. you dont have to worry about these, they use no power. but services you may want to look out for, as they may be doing something, and could be using power.
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i'm not sure that task managers will show up in the android list of used battery processes. but i can tell you that using task killer is a bad idea, and can lead to shorter battery life, because the OS constantly opens up apps. and the task killer is just fighting the OS killing them again, which is an endless cycle using up cpu power. these apps are periodically loaded as "empty processes" and usually will show as background on a task killer. you dont have to worry about these, they use no power. but services you may want to look out for, as they may be doing something, and could be using power.
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Yes sir... makes sense ...Ill start tomorrow with a freshly baked /charged battery
and kill off the ATK ..
Thanks again...It's fantastic to see all these helpful tips out here on XDA
And OP sorry if I wennt OT or hijacked ur question towards battery life/ ATK
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Been lurking for quite a while now and have had the ATRIX 2 since the day after launch.
I pay pretty close attention to applications and their battery consumption. Today when checking I found that an app named device health application had been running. Does anyone know what this app is? Have google'd it. It didn't find any info.
Thanks!
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Thats a good question
It showed that it used 77% of my battery yesterday. If anyone runs across the true name of the app I'd like to know so I can disable it through the package manager.
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That's interesting. Its only used 3% of my battery today - so isn't a problem for me yet. However I have noticed of isn't responding to a force stop yet.
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it's a GPS user
Jwalker53 said:
That's interesting. Its only used 3% of my battery today - so isn't a problem for me yet. However I have noticed of isn't responding to a force stop yet.
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It's always been <10% batt usage for me until the other day when I noticed it was up around 15%. I selected it in the batt usage screen and it's battery usage appears to be GPS and not so much CPU. It had the GPS on for 25mins total that day. I find this a bit rediculous and decided to just freeze it with Ti Backup. It's now not contributing to CPU usage, and I don't notice the GPS symbol w/o firing an app that uses it. I also haven't noticed any ill effect yet, but I'd be interested in knowing what this thing does.
I suspect it's a moto app for collecting device stats to aid in trouble-shooting issues, but that's just a guess. I'm not a fan of apps out of my control just firing up GPS at their whim. and no, I'm not willing to go full manual and start GPS myself everytime an app needs to use it. My phone works for *me*, not the other way around.
that's interesting. I haven't seen it on my since the day I posted about it. Didn't notice it doing anything with the GPS. I keep mine turned off unless I need it. Will have to check that one out if I ever see it again.
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Health Device App
Howw do you get rid of it?
petersonms said:
Howw do you get rid of it?
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By upgrading to 2.3.6. This thread is old.look at the dates,november.there is no health app as moto removed Carrier i.q
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Hey guys I would just like ppl opinion on the various battery saving apps that are available on the market.
Do you think they actually work? best apps(in your opinion) and best configuration to save most battery.
I have juice defender and and it always says that it is saving me somewhere around 1.6 but I'm not totally sure that that is the case.
I have not had it installed for the last couple of days and my battery doesn't seem to be noticeable y worse than when it was installed
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I have stopped using them. I have think it depends in how a person uses their phone to start with. All of those options, can be done manually. I personally got tires of switching to different profiles for what I was doing. I haven't noticed much difference myself.
but, that is just my experience.
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I have stopped using them. I have think it depends in how a person uses their phone to start with. All of those options, can be done manually. I personally got tires of switching to different profiles for what I was doing. I haven't noticed much difference myself.
but, that is just my experience.
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Yes well that's the way I'm going I think. They taking up space and memory on phone and not really getting any noticeable benefit from having them installed.
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gavmac said:
Yes well that's the way I'm going I think. They taking up space and memory on phone and not really getting any noticeable benefit from having them installed.
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They do keep us occupied ...... for about a week. That's worth something I guess.
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The battery on my phone is going iPhone-ish, I need one of the battery saving apps, Are there any decent ones yet?
I would try Bataria from the market. Its free, and doesn't use much resources to do its job. I think the best is to manually adjust different settings on your phone. Same results, nothing running in the background to do it.
I am using Greenpowe.
Battery apps are usually crap. The only ones that really work are the ones that modify how your phone's software works. And those almost always require root access.
If by chance you are rooted, I recommend SetCPU, Autostarts and Autokiller. SetCPU will allow you to set profiles such as throttling while the screen is off, which will save you a ton of battery. Autostarts will stop custom apps from starting with your phone's OS, which leads to less background processes. And Autokiller will ensure that you have plenty of free memory for less tasks being killed and restarted. That alone has the potential to make a huge difference in your battery life.
I'm not trying for snarky, but
An app can't save battery by running
But you can save battery by turning something off
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I'm not trying for snarky, but
An app can't save battery by running
But you can save battery by turning something off
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I totally agree.
My uncle uses juice defender, but I think it's better for the battery to manage everything yourself.
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yeah I've been using Juice Defender. It does save some battery life.
If you have a horrible phone like mine, juice defender ultimate works wonders. My LG optimus m gets about 12 hours of life without it, and about 18 hours with it.
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On my OG EVO I used juice defender plus and it helped out greatly. Saw 1.8x a couple of times. On the new EVO LTE I don't use a thing and it keeps going and going and going...
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Hi All,
This is an app that i just found that apparently is extremely useful for the I9505 variant containing the Snapdragon processor.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app#_blank
"Snapdragon™ BatteryGuru is a battery life saver app that extends battery performance and improves overall user experience by intelligently making changes that optimize device functionality in phones with Snapdragon mobile processors."
I have just installed it to see how it goes over the next few days.
Just thought i should share it with everyone.
Cheers
It will be very interesting to see how this turns out
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still need 1 days and 8 hour for me. will see how it goes.
23 hours left hear lol
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mine says 4 days of learning left....
will be interesting to see what it learns and how well it effectively puts that learning into practice to help battery life.
didn't really make much any difference for me so deleted it... not to say it won't work for you though
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Verdict still out for me as well. 1 day left of learning.
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didn't really make much any difference for me so deleted it... not to say it won't work for you though
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+1
I know this app from the Nexus 4, no differences....
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didn't really make much any difference for me so deleted it... not to say it won't work for you though
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did you let the learning time pass? and still not notice much?
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did you let the learning time pass? and still not notice much?
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Yeah of course (the app has been out for quite a while so it's not new). But as I said may be different for different users (those who sync a lot etc).
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I used this app for Nexus 4 when it was launched, after it learnt it mostly disabled my Gmail/Whatsapp/Tango and whenever I used to open those APPs then only I could get notifications. This is even when, I have disabled that do not enable this feature on this & this app. Strangely I had to uninstall the app so that I can receive notifications
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I used this app for Nexus 4 when it was launched, after it learnt it mostly disabled my Gmail/Whatsapp/Tango and whenever I used to open those APPs then only I could get notifications. This is even when, I have disabled that do not enable this feature on this & this app. Strangely I had to uninstall the app so that I can receive notifications
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Its mostly useless because of this.
I used it on my previous phone as well, Motorola RAZR HD. There were options to enable data for those apps (I don't use Tango though), and I did.
In the end all it was essentially doing is managing my WiFi, and it made poor choices about that, disconnecting me when I was at home and using WiFi. It made sense to the app; WiFi took more power, but it wasn't the way I wanted to use it.
In the end, it didn't do anything but screw up my experience. I could achieve what it had "learned" and tailored it to my needs using Tasker but doing that doesn't even make a significant difference when I'd set it up for a better power saving experience so those profiles inevitably got deleted.
I should add that the RAZR HD is built to be sort of similar to vanilla Android, and that I trust Samsung a lot more when it comes to trying to optimise power consumption in its ROM without any add ons running, and that's quite a statement considering that the RAZR HD has incredible battery life.
I've had this app staring at me in Titanium Backup, uninstalled, since I got the phone and the urge to try it out comes and goes, but overall I can't really conceive that its a good idea to do so. There's no magical things that it does which can't be accomplished using other tools and most of those tools aren't really worth it despite doing a better job for the reason of the user having more control over what conditions need to be met for the functions to take place. The days of Android needing help with power management through third party apps are for the most part in the past and only exist on pretty old phones.
Battery Guru is in use more then anything else during Learning process when I check in Greenify. Based on what I see hopefully it is used less after Learning.
Also is it worth using this with Greenify?
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Leonidas87 said:
Battery Guru is in use more then anything else during Learning process when I check in Greenify. Based on what I see hopefully it is used less after Learning.
Also is it worth using this with Greenify?
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hahahahaha
what a stupid program if that is the case (saw your image below this post)
Latest after finishing the Learning period. Seems to still show up in greenify to be waking up the phone more then anything else I've ever seen before.
To me it looks like a resource and battery hog.
Anyone else have an opinion based on the picture I'm attaching or there experience with it?
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Leonidas87 said:
Latest after finishing the Learning period. Seems to still show up in greenify to be waking up the phone more then anything else I've ever seen before.
To me it looks like a resource and battery hog.
Anyone else have an opinion based on the picture I'm attaching or there experience with it?
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Yep. And I guess if the functions of this app were so great how it tells you in the description, it would be in the source code of the qualcomm's kernel itself. Maybe it can save some battery but only for those millions of unexperienced users arround the world, who doesn't even know, what android really is.
I would stick with greenify and that's enough. Everything else is the job for the kernel.
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Yep. And I guess if the functions of this app were so great how it tells you in the description, it would be in the source code of the qualcomm's kernel itself. Maybe it can save some battery but only for those millions of unexperienced users arround the world, who doesn't even know, what android really is.
I would stick with greenify and that's enough. Everything else is the job for the kernel.
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Overall it just does more harm then good. My Live Wallpaper seemed slugish. Scrolling became sluggish on homescreen and drawer. Over 1000 Wake ups and counting with it. NO THANK YOU.
USE GREENIFY (BETA VERSION PREFFERED BY ME) BOTTOM LINE
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Does this app really help?
I let it run the whole learning period and just ended a few hours ago...
So it started saving battery... The phone was idle the whole time.
You see a huge decline in battery? Thats when the App BatteryGuru started to "save battery", how ironic.
"Google Services" seems to be the cause in here..
When checking Wake Lock Detector,
BatteryGuru is the most wake lock...
Question is, Shall I continue using it?
i started using this app with the adam kernel and ive noticed that my battery life has increased from 12 hours of use to 18/19 hours of use
im a pretty avid phone user. mainly music, web browsing, phone calling, text, games, and seldomly maps (in order of importance to my personal life
with the stock kernel i saw no difference
I am on stock 4.4.2, rooted. Just want to know should I use Greenify to extend my battery life?
Is KitKat 4.4.2 app-cached mechanism not better than that?
I don't and never have and never had any need to
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Depends on your usage.
Might work for some, not for others.
Install and try for yourself, do some objective testing before and after to see if it makes any difference for you
Handy to control apps you don't use regularly from running on the background. Actual effect on battery life. Well don't expect miracles.
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Can't live without it. N5 has a poor battery, it's really usefull
BehelitOutlaw said:
Can't live without it. N5 has a poor battery, it's really usefull
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N5 has brilliant battery, far better than any other smart phone out there
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Ben36 said:
N5 has brilliant battery
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Come on Ben, April fools day was 2 weeks ago. Get over it you'll get another shot next year.
Ben36 said:
far better than any other smart phone out there
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That moment where you lose every credibility you ever had.
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Come on Ben, April fools day was 2 weeks ago. Get over it you'll get another shot next year.
That moment where you lose every credibility you ever had.
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Bait
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A few days I install it in my phone.But it seems like no use to me.
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Greenify is the only one from that endless battery safer tools This really has a positive effect. Clear recommendation, even if I do not understand why you needed for a new thread. Such things do you test yourself
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Well, don't discuss the battery It's good enough for many but not for everyone. I'll plan to use a recharge pack if I need more battery power. Most of the times I have a bag or something else with me so that I can put a recharger pack into it for the case I run out of battery.
Sure, a better internal battery is better, but I can live with that.
Greenify is a great tool to have so that you can have a broad selection of apps on your device without worrying about it weighing down the OS in bloat. Lots of apps unnecessarily start in the background or ask to be notified on state changes or when the device is unlocked, which can lead to sluggishness and/or battery life degradation. For example my banking app does this, and I never need my banking app to run unless I explicitly press on that damn icon. But I don't want to get rid of my banking app due to it's bad behavior, because it's truly a useful app. That is where greenify shines.
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I have a few apps that definitely will hurt the battery if left running...so greenify let's me still have those apps and not worry about them impacting my battery. To me greenify is on my must have list. ?
And to backup another's post, yes...the N5 CAN have battery life that rivals other great battery life phones. I get over 24 hours with 6 plus hours screen time easily. But...its all about how you set up your phone...and how you use it. "Average" battery times are hard to compare, since we all are setup different and do different things with our phones.
But yes, battery life CAN be brilliant.... Or it can be average.
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Check your wakelocks to see if any apps are keeping your phone awake.
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Haven't had a need for battery savers ever. I just monitor what my system is doing and figure out how to mitigate it without another app to run.
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