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Is the OLED using Pentile or RGB subpixel?

Does anyone know? There is a big difference especially if the screen is bigger and the resolution is not quad HD. If you do not know how to tell them apart, just google pentile vs rgb
https://www.google.ca/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_enCA789CA789&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=nX3HW_zyMuTH0PEPqb-uyAE&q=pentile+vs+rgb&oq=pentile+vs+rgb&gs_l=img.3..0j0i7i30k1.99779.100357.0.100738.2.2.0.0.0.0.68.109.2.2.0....0...1c.1.64.img..0.2.108....0.NDFhIw5uI5c
EDIT: Answer found, Pentile display for Honor Note 10

Debatable. This is a big screen phone not the typical 5.5 inch ones back in the day. I still want to know if this is rgb or not. I have a mi max 3 and the screen is pretty good

It is almost sure pen tile. As I know, only tab s and tab s2 hase pure rgb matrix... I had and have both tabs. And had at least 15 different phones, also flagships between them,wirh pentile
Picture quality is night and day... You can never get that accuracy of colors in pen tile.

SmartPhonesFan said:
it is amoled .. from samsung ..
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Everyone knows that from the spec sheet. I'm talking about the subpixel arrangement. RGB vs pentile diamond layout. It makes a difference on a big display

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SmartPhonesFan said:
it is amoled .. from samsung ..
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SmartPhonesFan said:
i bet samsung has only one type of amoled .. or 2 amoled and super amoled .. so try google it
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Before I made this thread I did that, no answer can be found. I'm trusting the owners of this phone on this site to help find the answer.

Answer found. Pentile display said by Frankie Tech. He says it in his video around the 8:17 mark. He said Honor 8X LCD is sharper than Honor Note 10

Hi,
Me, I have the device for a few hours, and I must say that I find the display really good.
I even tried to downgrade it to lower resolution and it still looks good with no real difference in sharpness. Now, I am almost 50 years old and so maybe my eyes are fooling me... so don't trust this too much. But I'm pretty sure that for "daily use" it is more the enough.
There's one thing that bothers me though : it is that slightly blueish tint it's getting when viewed at about 20°C vision angle. Not as bad as on earlier LG displays, but still there. Noticeable only on white backgrounds It's common "disease" for OLED/AMOLED displays.
Anyways, how can I say it's pentile or RGB ? The link provided explains the difference but doesn't say how to check does it ?
Regards.

NexusPenguin said:
Hi,
Me, I have the device for a few hours, and I must say that I find the display really good.
I even tried to downgrade it to lower resolution and it still looks good with no real difference in sharpness. Now, I am almost 50 years old and so maybe my eyes are fooling me... so don't trust this too much. But I'm pretty sure that for "daily use" it is more the enough.
There's one thing that bothers me though : it is that slightly blueish tint it's getting when viewed at about 20°C vision angle. Not as bad as on earlier LG displays, but still there. Noticeable only on white backgrounds It's common "disease" for OLED/AMOLED displays.
Anyways, how can I say it's pentile or RGB ? The link provided explains the difference but doesn't say how to check does it ?
Regards.
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It's easy to tell by experience at looking at screens especially on a big screen even on a 5.5 inch screen I can tell the difference/ Oneplus owners have complained about their displays being not as sharp too because they use 1080p pentile displays now imagine this on an even bigger screen like the Honor Note10, 8X and 20X.
The one method to use is to drop bits of water on a screen displaying text and use a magnifying glass then you can examine the subpixel arrangement to determine if it's pentile or rgb. Smaller drops of water magnify the pixel more and largers drops magnify less
This is example is a RG/BW LCD which is also blurry. Notice how this display has the blue in a diamond pattern similar to a Pentile layout. This makes text and edges of icons and pictures and finer detail look blurry.
http://i.imgur.com/yS4djZz.jpg
A traditional RGB LCD has all the colors in a straight line
https://www.phonescoop.com/img/g/489_9cdf1622caf8656bee9d377123e7817f.jpg
I'm fine with pentile on a 2560x1440 or higher display but not on anything lower as it's noticeable
These are pictures of my mi max 3 6.9 inch lcd display. Rgb layout, red blue green all in a straight vertical line. One of the reasons why I picked the max 3 over the note 10 was the display sharpness and accurate color reproduction.

V30

Now that my view 20 has got Android 10, it has got even better but that new View 30 looks amazing.
Anyone going to upgrade to the view 30?

Not me as v20 is still a solid performer. Probably will stay with this for another few months before i plan. Also, lets see about the global launch due to ban thing [emoji19], so no clarity over it yet.
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Initially I was interested in upgrading to the V30 Pro, but when they announced that both models in the V30 series would use LCD instead of OLED that put me off so I ended up switching to the P30 Pro.

NekoMichi said:
Initially I was interested in upgrading to the V30 Pro, but when they announced that both models in the V30 series would use LCD instead of OLED that put me off so I ended up switching to the P30 Pro.
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What do you dislike about LCD?

DJW35 said:
What do you dislike about LCD?
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LCDs can't display true black, whereas the improved contrast ratio of an OLED make it much easier on the eyes, especially when viewing at night. OLEDs also tend to be easier to read under bright sunlight as well as saving some battery compared to LCDs. While it's possible to have an always-on display for both OLEDs and LCDs, it will consume far more battery power on an LCD than an OLED.

NekoMichi said:
LCDs can't display true black, whereas the improved contrast ratio of an OLED make it much easier on the eyes, especially when viewing at night. OLEDs also tend to be easier to read under bright sunlight as well as saving some battery compared to LCDs. While it's possible to have an always-on display for both OLEDs and LCDs, it will consume far more battery power on an LCD than an OLED.
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LCDs are brighter, white looks better on LCDs, colour saturation and colors looking more true-to-life or another strength of LCD, LCD screens also save moneyand most of all LCD screens don't have burn in as bad as OLED screens.
Both have their advantages and disadvantages

DJW35 said:
Now that my view 20 has got Android 10, it has got even better but that new View 30 looks amazing.
Anyone going to upgrade to the view 30?
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Still waiting for android 10 on my device. ?

I am disappointed because of the v20 alternative roms non support.
No kernel sources, no bootloader unlock, no custom roms.
I love the hardware and the debloated rom is ok.
But instead of a v30 I will seek for a more open device like mi 9t pro or OnePlus ...

Screen green tint?

When I place Poco F2 pro right next to LG G8 the Poco F2 pro is obviously more green. I just used a page of xda to compare. Its much worse when viewed at an angle. When I had LG v30, I had 2 and one of them was green the other had a beautiful accurate screen. So I know this could be a quality control issue. I wonder if it's just my device that has this problem or do you guys have it too? Actually it might be caused by the screen protector too, has anyone taken it off? What do you see?

It must be quality control issue. Both my k20 Pro and K30 pro Zoom edition have beautiful screen. The note 7 Pro is terrible (LCD screen). I also have iPhone SE (2020) it has worse screen.

Andrew Lin said:
When I place Poco F2 pro right next to LG G8 the Poco F2 pro is obviously more green. I just used a page of xda to compare. Its much worse when viewed at an angle. When I had LG v30, I had 2 and one of them was green the other had a beautiful accurate screen. So I know this could be a quality control issue. I wonder if it's just my device that has this problem or do you guys have it too? Actually it might be caused by the screen protector too, has anyone taken it off? What do you see?
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reliot said:
It must be quality control issue. Both my k20 Pro and K30 pro Zoom edition have beautiful screen. The note 7 Pro is terrible (LCD screen). I also have iPhone SE (2020) it has worse screen.
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Do you have a beautiful screen even with a screen protector?

I have it too and it's very very noticeable.

navy676aw said:
I have it too and it's very very noticeable.
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It looks like we are the unlucky ones. I am almost certain it's a quality control issue now, because of the above comment and if you look at some unboxing video on YouTube, you can see the youtubers have the correct display.

Also, the tint is not exactly green but yellowish too. Somewhat in between. But when I look at an angle, it's mostly green

Andrew Lin said:
Do you have a beautiful screen even with a screen protector?
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I did a better comparison today with daylight.
I do use glass screenprotector but i dont think it has any negative effect. The screen has noticable color shift (wave like) when you look phone screen from the right. From other sides its OK.
Edit: i compered to my k20 pro and iPhone SE (2020). The k20 Pro has also color shift from the right (same pattern wave like) but way less than my K30 Pro Zoom edition. iPhone SE has maybe little color shift to the blueish-magenta color.
I tested on white background with full brightness on all phones. On straight on view all 3 phones have no green or yellow color wave shift.
Edit2: I did have green tint on K20 Pro when i installed 75 Hz mod in low brightness. Thats why i removed it

reliot said:
I did a better comparison today with daylight.
I do use glass screenprotector but i dont think it has any negative effect. The screen has noticable color shift (wave like) when you look phone screen from the right. From other sides its OK.
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Why only from the right? Do you think there's something wrong with your phone too?

Andrew Lin said:
Why only from the right? Do you think there's something wrong with your phone too?
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I dont know why only from the right. It reminds me IPS panels. IPS panels have also this wave like pattern (but white color-the screen glowes) when viewed from sides (my note 7 pro and my Dell monitor).
Do you see the green tint straight on with white background?

reliot said:
I dont know why only from the right. It reminds me IPS panels. IPS panels have also this wave like pattern (but white color-the screen glowes) when viewed from sides (my note 7 pro and my Dell monitor).
Do you see the green tint straight on with white background?
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Yea like this

Andrew Lin said:
Yea like this
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Interesting, thats really bad on yours. How does it look when you switch to original color gamus. I think its software. Also I always use original color gamut, i hate when phones change color based on lightning or time of the day.

reliot said:
Interesting, thats really bad on yours. How does it look when you switch to original color gamus. I think its software. Also I always use original color gamut, i hate when phones change color based on lightning or time of the day.
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what's your brightness level in those pics? I will take a comparison picture. Also what phone did you use to take the photos

Andrew Lin said:
what's your brightness level in those pics? I will take a comparison picture. Also what phone did you use to take the photos
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Max brightness, i took pictures with iPhone SE (2020)

reliot said:
Max brightness, i took pictures with iPhone SE (2020)
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In fact when I try to take pictures with my LG g8 to compare to yours. My phone actually shows a more correct color in both cases although in my eyes it's the opposite. That means G8's camera has a bad color shift.

Maybe a stupid question but did you remove the stock screen protector.
I notice the stock screen protector when I want to apply my termpered class version.

reliot said:
I did a better comparison today with daylight.
I do use glass screenprotector but i dont think it has any negative effect. The screen has noticable color shift (wave like) when you look phone screen from the right. From other sides its OK.
Edit: i compered to my k20 pro and iPhone SE (2020). The k20 Pro has also color shift from the right (same pattern wave like) but way less than my K30 Pro Zoom edition. iPhone SE has maybe little color shift to the blueish-magenta color.
I tested on white background with full brightness on all phones. On straight on view all 3 phones have no green or yellow color wave shift.
Edit2: I did have green tint on K20 Pro when i installed 75 Hz mod in low brightness. Thats why i removed it
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GoldeneyeS2 said:
Maybe a stupid question but did you remove the stock screen protector.
I notice the stock screen protector when I want to apply my termpered class version.
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No and that's why I asked people if the screen is beautiful even with the protector on. I am afraid taking it off would affect return. Do you see a big difference after taking it off

My brand new F2 Pro is extremely green as well. Compared to my Mi9 it's waaaaaaaaaaay off

Grantius said:
My brand new F2 Pro is extremely green as well. Compared to my Mi9 it's waaaaaaaaaaay off
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Have you taken the protector off?

On my device I do not see green tint but I have black crush which the only way to make it go away is to enable dc dimming and using automatic or saturated mode. Also on light gray colors i see that the screen is not uniform. It is a bit more bright on top and bottom. Mi9t had a lot better screen... Disappointed totally.

I got a Poco F2 Pro piss edition...
Waiting on my second one, hope this will be okay. Else this was my first and last xiaomi device.
Depending on the brightness it is better or worse. But even at 100% it is notable on everything from white to grey. All apps show this Problem.

What exactly is a "2X AMOLED" screen

I posed this question in various places but no one has come back to me with an answer.
The Note 20 Ultra boasts a 2X AMOLED touchscreen, according to the specs. But what exactly does this mean and what (if any) are the advantages over a standard AMOLED variant?
TIA
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apparently even Samsung is not clear on the subject
https://www.oled-info.com/dynamic-amoled

raul6 said:
apparently even Samsung is not clear on the subject
https://www.oled-info.com/dynamic-amoled
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Maybe it's some sort of marketing waffle. Apple do it all the time, I mean all that ludicrous Retina Display hype for example!
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apprentice said:
I posed this question in various places but no one has come back to me with an answer.
The Note 20 Ultra boasts a 2X AMOLED touchscreen, according to the specs. But what exactly does this mean and what (if any) are the advantages over a standard AMOLED variant?
TIA
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Dynamic Amoled screens are healthier on eyes because they have blue light filter built in the hardware of the screen itself + they have more Natural color accuracy not some what fake & over vivid like old Amoled displays .
But starting from S20 series there is 2x Dynamic Amoled because the refresh rate is doubled 120hz vs 60HZ but color accuracy and eye safety is the same

hoss_n2 said:
Dynamic Amoled screens are healthier on eyes because they have blue light filter built in the hardware of the screen itself + they have more Natural color accuracy not some what fake & over vivid like old Amoled displays .
But starting from S20 series there is 2x Dynamic Amoled because the refresh rate is doubled 120hz vs 60HZ but color accuracy and eye safety is the same
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Thanks for the detailed reply!
A bit disappointing though that the 2X only refers to the display refresh. So I guess I was right in that it's just a bit of marketing fluff, as other manufacturers didn't give their 120Hz displays a differentiating name.
Still, at least I know it won't make me go blind when I use the phone at night in bed (though something else might lol)
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Question Always on display on Poco X3 Pro

Hey, we do not have option to set always on display on Poco X3 Pro,but is there any way to do that? Or any aplication? I try some from Googleplay, but they are for amoled screens. Thanks for any answers .

An always on display makes no sense with an IPS panel.

thorin0815 said:
An always on display makes no sense with an IPS panel.
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no sense? how bout LG G7? still no sense?

officialauxter said:
no sense? how bout LG G7? still no sense?
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I don't know this device.
Cut&Paste from Quora (I'm lazy!):
Here’s the main difference between OLED screens and LCD screens: when an OLED screen displays black, the pixels are powered off, so the battery is not being drained by the screen but when an LCD screen displays black, it does so by tinting the backlight dark, which means the screen is still generating light and is hence draining the battery.
An always on display requires the screen to show the time (and some extra details) constantly. In an OLED screen, this means only the pixels that are displaying the time are turned on, which results in less battery drain. But when it comes to LCD displays, there’s no difference in battery drain during always on display versus normal usage (taking into consideration only battery drain due to display).

exhumator said:
Hey, we do not have option to set always on display on Poco X3 Pro,but is there any way to do that? Or any aplication? I try some from Googleplay, but they are for amoled screens. Thanks for any answers .
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There are no apps for always on display on LCD screen's , only if you move to an custom AOSP rom, you will find that feature (but you will experience battery draining!!!).

Also the led of your ips-panel will degrade super damn fast

thorin0815 said:
I don't know this device.
Cut&Paste from Quora (I'm lazy!):
Here’s the main difference between OLED screens and LCD screens: when an OLED screen displays black, the pixels are powered off, so the battery is not being drained by the screen but when an LCD screen displays black, it does so by tinting the backlight dark, which means the screen is still generating light and is hence draining the battery.
An always on display requires the screen to show the time (and some extra details) constantly. In an OLED screen, this means only the pixels that are displaying the time are turned on, which results in less battery drain. But when it comes to LCD displays, there’s no difference in battery drain during always on display versus normal usage (taking into consideration only battery drain due to display).
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bruh? just check specification on gsmarena or anywhere. they usin IPS not OLED, and u didnt need explain like dis because u didnt understand about AoD is!
AoD its actually software, not OLED or IPS or bla bla bla, stupid explanation!

officialauxter said:
bruh? just check specification on gsmarena or anywhere. they usin IPS not OLED, and u didnt need explain like dis because u didnt understand about AoD is!
AoD its actually software, not OLED or IPS or bla bla bla, stupid explanation!
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Better read my post again, preferably two or three times, and then you may understand why an AoD on an LCD / IPS panel makes relatively little sense. Does it basically work? Yes it does and I have never said anything to the contrary.

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" I try some from Googleplay, but they are for amoled screens." .
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I think you just answer your own question !

AoD its actually software, not OLED or IPS or bla bla bla, stupid explanation!
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Holly damn... How people like that manage to live in this world if they think and act like that....
AoD on device with IPS screen is like keeping engine running in the car ALL THE TIME even if you park it in your garage during night....

thorin0815 said:
Better read my post again, preferably two or three times, and then you may understand why an AoD on an LCD / IPS panel makes relatively little sense. Does it basically work? Yes it does and I have never said anything to the contrary.
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yea i know, but i talk about more user's choice, not company or MIUI choice. i hope AoD still work in IPS panel.
in ur post u explain how AoD and screen work and hardware work, but here i more talk about choice AoD software. There is ton explanation about different LCD and AMOLED in youtube and i already watched it, so i no need explanation about panel.
Thankyou

Akinaro said:
Holly damn... How people like that manage to live in this world if they think and act like that....
AoD on device with IPS screen is like keeping engine running in the car ALL THE TIME even if you park it in your garage during night....
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yea i know, but give user's choice without rooting or change OS. that what i want or people want (maybe). there is phone out there, has option to turn on AoD. user's already (or must ) know what effect if turn on AoD. if user use IPS panel, maybe u cant longer turn on AoD than AMOLED panel. just need complex setting, simple as that