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Hello friends
i have been using xperia p past few years and im planning to buy One plus one from china as the phone is too awesome!!
my sister is studying in china and i have thought to tel her to buy me a new ONE PLUS ONE WITH COLOR OS FROM CHINA!!
will i be able to change to cm11s and use in INDIA without any problem(2g and 3g) ??--->i wish some Indian friends reply to this!!
is the phone available in local stores and if someone from china here then please tell me how much it wil cost in(yuan)??--. wish some Chinese friends reply to this!!
my main question is if it will be available in local stores of china?
your help would really be appreciated!!
im really going to buy this phone as soon as i know these details!!
awaiting for your comments
thanks!!
vicky2131 said:
Hello friends
i have been using xperia p past few years and im planning to buy One plus one from china as the phone is too awesome!!
my sister is studying in china and i have thought to tel her to buy me a new ONE PLUS ONE WITH COLOR OS FROM CHINA!!
will i be able to change to cm11s and use in INDIA without any problem(2g and 3g) ??--->i wish some Indian friends reply to this!!
is the phone available in local stores and if someone from china here then please tell me how much it wil cost in(yuan)??--. wish some Chinese friends reply to this!!
my main question is if it will be available in local stores of china?
your help would really be appreciated!!
im really going to buy this phone as soon as i know these details!!
awaiting for your comments
thanks!!
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Actually, it is very easy to buy this phone in online market, 16G cost 1999 and 64G cost 2299 (both of them are in yuan)
There is a thread explaining the differences between international and Chinese one. Click here please.
According to my experience, there is no difference between international version and the Chinese one in hardware. The only difference is Chinese version's modem which locks some of brands and therefore, leads to some unusable network. However, it's very easy to revert to 100% stock cm11s including the modem. more information in here.
Sorry for my crappy English.
Regards
alpha.shining said:
Actually, it is very easy to buy this phone in online market, 16G cost 1999 and 64G cost 2299 (both of them are in yuan)
There is a thread explaining the differences between international and Chinese one. Click here please.
According to my experience, there is no difference between international version and the Chinese one in hardware. The only difference is Chinese version's modem which locks some of brands and therefore, leads to some unusable network. However, it's very easy to revert to 100% stock cm11s including the modem. more information in here.
Sorry for my crappy English.
Regards
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thanks for your reply my friend!!
Are you from china?? and if so where can i get the 64gb online in china which can be shipped to guangxi?? or should i tell my sister to check in the local shops if it might be cheaper??
vicky2131 said:
thanks for your reply my friend!!
Are you from china?? and if so where can i get the 64gb online in china which can be shipped to guangxi?? or should i tell my sister to check in the local shops if it might be cheaper??
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Yes. A noob from Chinese
Local shop will cost more money than online market so online is the best choice, my friend.
You can get this from Jingdong online market which is very similar to the Amazon. Website is http://item.jd.com/1142209.html .
You can also buy it from opo official website at 10 o'clock on Tuesday and Friday mooning but the number is limited.
Sorry for my crappy English.
alpha.shining said:
Yes. A noob from Chinese
Local shop will cost more money than online market so online is the best choice, my friend.
You can get this from Jingdong online market which is very similar to the Amazon. Website is http://item.jd.com/1142209.html .
You can also buy it from opo official website at 10 o'clock on Tuesday and Friday mooning but the number is limited.
Sorry for my crappy English.
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awesome bro!!
thanks a lot for helping me out, i really didnt know whom to ask about all these.
from morning i was seeing if i can use flawlessly in india with cm11s and all that and the answer is yes!!
then now with your help i can soon own a one plus one!!
jus have to wait for few months before she can come back to india!!
you are no noob for me
:angel: thank you once again
Is there a goto place to buy in the UK with a UK warranty?
Had a nightmare with oneplus and wont' buy chinese again until they have some local presence.
The Honor 8 in blue looks great, so hence the question of where to buy.
vmall.eu looks like its not UK based...
Thanks
There's cheaper but i picked mine up from Amazon just for the peace of mind of their returns.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Honor-Dual...e=UTF8&qid=1475696240&sr=1-1&keywords=honor+8
fingery said:
There's cheaper but i picked mine up from Amazon just for the peace of mind of their returns.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Honor-Dual...e=UTF8&qid=1475696240&sr=1-1&keywords=honor+8
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Thanks, yes, I've had it in my basket for a few days now, but think I might wait a little longer to see how developement goes.
I thought it was supplied by others on Amazon, but I did see direct from Amazon too.
Thanks.
£339 from three which is also unlocked.
http://www.three.co.uk/Honor/8?memory=32&colour=Blue
mwatson said:
£339 from three which is also unlocked.
http://www.three.co.uk/Honor/8?memory=32&colour=Blue
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Thanks. Its insisting on a 10 quid topup though.
Are they unlocked from three? didn't realise that.
3 is the only carrier I see offering it in the UK
Honor 8 UK
scoobydu said:
Is there a goto place to buy in the UK with a UK warranty?
Had a nightmare with oneplus and wont' buy chinese again until they have some local presence.
The Honor 8 in blue looks great, so hence the question of where to buy.
vmall.eu looks like its not UK based...
Thanks
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Your best bet is to purchase the Honor 8 UK edition thru vmall.eu (https://www.vmall.eu/uk/honor-8-blue-292297/) which includes a warranty (see specifics here: https://www.vmall.eu/uk/warranty-policy/). If you have any other questions regarding the device and warranty policy, please let us know. (NS)
I got mine from a three store in the uk. No other stores stock these.
Can't go wrong mines blue looks gorgeous
vmall.eu's shipping seems from Expansys?
https://www.vmall.eu/uk/delivery/
Notes:
The estimated arrival times are taken directly from information provided by our couriers. These are estimates only, and EXPANSYS are not responsible for any variation.
If selecting a next working day service, goods will need to be signed for. To help, please give a delivery address where someone will be available to sign.
Please note: Next day delivery service is available only when orders are invoiced and/or shipped out.
Unfortunately, if goods are returned to EXPANSYS because of an incorrect or incomplete address, the carriage is not refundable so please double check before submission.
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Directly from their vmall.
https://www.vmall.eu/uk/
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Thanks. Its insisting on a 10 quid topup though.
Are they unlocked from three? didn't realise that.
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i phoned them and told them I don't need a sim card thanks.. already got one, so got just the phone for 339. If you get told they can't sell them on the phone and online only, then hand up and call back until you get someone who knows what they are doing. took me three attempts. must be why they are called three!
Buying them Honor devices from Three UK you get the same warranty as if bought online via Vmall.UK.So trust assured you good on all accounts and Vmall will deal with you directly once bought.
Got my partners from three today a d on the phone there is like a customer service portal, typed in the imei and she has a two year warranty
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I found only three mobile selling it for me and like mentioned i phoned up three and told them i had no need for a sim card and just wanted the phone to which the lady was more then helpful, mine arrives tomorrow as i ordered Sunday ...
i cant wait.
HonorUSA_Noah said:
Your best bet is to purchase the Honor 8 UK edition thru vmall.eu (https://www.vmall.eu/uk/honor-8-blue-292297/) which includes a warranty (see specifics here: https://www.vmall.eu/uk/warranty-policy/). If you have any other questions regarding the device and warranty policy, please let us know. (NS)
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Thanks, I have read those and they don’t specify who the repairer is and what country they reside, so it isn’t clear if its shipped abroad to get cover or done in the UK and are subject to UK laws?
jerryhou85 said:
vmall.eu's shipping seems from Expansys?
https://www.vmall.eu/uk/delivery/
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Likely just me, but won’t ever buy from these people again, so they are off the list. Poor excuse for a company.
mwatson said:
i phoned them and told them I don't need a sim card thanks.. already got one, so got just the phone for 339. If you get told they can't sell them on the phone and online only, then hand up and call back until you get someone who knows what they are doing. took me three attempts. must be why they are called three!
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Thats an option but left three many years ago as they don’t know what customer service is and we have no coverage from them.
shelleyldiaz said:
Thanks for sharing amazon uk link I think amazon is only the best place to buy Honor 8.
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Between 3 and Expansys, Amazon are by far the best option for me, but they only cover the device for one year and then you’d have to go to honour or others?
Just not clear and although it looks a lovely device, I will steer clear until it becomes clear who i deal with if anything should go wrong.
Thanks for all the input, much appreciated.
scoobydu said:
Thats an option but left three many years ago as they don’t know what customer service is and we have no coverage from them
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Its SIM only and unlocked. Use what ever carrier you want and get the phone with generic firmware for £339
The phone from three is unlocked so you can put what ever sim in you want.
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scoobydu said:
Between 3 and Expansys, Amazon are by far the best option for me, but they only cover the device for one year and then you’d have to go to honour or others?
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I think 1 year is good enough already... usually after 1 year, manufacturer will stop/slow down upgrade, at that time, you have to rely on developers from XDA or places alike.
jerryhou85 said:
I think 1 year is good enough already... usually after 1 year, manufacturer will stop/slow down upgrade, at that time, you have to rely on developers from XDA or places alike.
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i have to agree here, most places will only offer a year anyway as after this they normally have slowed down production and are at that point concentrating on another product.
if its that much of a problem about aftercare i would personally find good insurance for your phone after the year is up @OP
i have insurance on all my electronics so i never pay a thing for breakdowns etc.
Bopie said:
i have to agree here, most places will only offer a year anyway as after this they normally have slowed down production and are at that point concentrating on another product.
if its that much of a problem about aftercare i would personally find good insurance for your phone after the year is up @OP
i have insurance on all my electronics so i never pay a thing for breakdowns etc.
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Well, maybe off topic, but there is a second opinion on extended warranty... :victory:
Skip the Extended Warranty and Save the Money Instead
http://twocents.lifehacker.com/skip-the-extended-warranty-and-save-the-money-instead-1786556184
Launch day today - has anyone found the pre order link for UK / Europe?
Their customer service opens shortly so I'll enquire there too and post here if/when I find it...
Edit: can anyone find any other EU pre order links?
https://m.alza.co.uk/asus-zenfone-7-pro-black-d6122969.htm?o=1
They have the white one available too
These aren't a UK based company though so may hold off and await one
So I emailed asus about this:
"Hi there,
It has been stated that the zenfone 7 pro is due to launch in Europe today (01/09/2020).
Could you tell me where I can find a link to buy the phone in the UK?"
I got this in response:
"Dear {redacted},
Thank you for contacting ASUS Support and for your interest in our products.
Unfortunately, ASUS and ROG mobile handsets are currently no longer on sale in the UK.
For any further enquiry, please contact the UK PR team at: [email protected]
If you need any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us. "
So I'm not sure what is going on...
Torn_Darkness said:
So I emailed asus about this:
"Hi there,
It has been stated that the zenfone 7 pro is due to launch in Europe today (01/09/2020).
Could you tell me where I can find a link to buy the phone in the UK?"
I got this in response:
"Dear {redacted},
Thank you for contacting ASUS Support and for your interest in our products.
Unfortunately, ASUS and ROG mobile handsets are currently no longer on sale in the UK.
For any further enquiry, please contact the UK PR team at: [email protected]
If you need any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us. "
So I'm not sure what is going on...
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Thanks for that.
I reckon I may order it from the Alza website, exciting times!
Just perhaps holding off just in case a better price/sooner available option becomes available... Though can't seem to find any at all!
I'm interested in this phone too and only link I have found is the Alza one. I'm tempted by it but currently on a OnePlus, I'm not sure how big the development community will be in comparison. I'd also like to see if anyone comes up with a decent GCam port first.
Keep us updated on whether you decide to order from Alza and your experience with that site.
will it come out from Wondamobile?
crumble6 said:
I'm interested in this phone too and only link I have found is the Alza one. I'm tempted by it but currently on a OnePlus, I'm not sure how big the development community will be in comparison. I'd also like to see if anyone comes up with a decent GCam port first.
Keep us updated on whether you decide to order from Alza and your experience with that site.
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I'm in communications with Arnova8G2, a developer of Gcam and they said "I have the zenfone 6 and it is very good with gcam, zenfone 7 pro already works with gcam 7.3 and more" - so based of this response I'm definitely gonna pre order the Zenfone 7 Pro! I think gcam on it will make it the perfect phone!
As for development, I've reached out on zenfone 6 thread and HavocOS. Which is inspiring that there's some good roms available for that device at least. Though worst case scenario, I'd be happy with rooted stock and gravitybox - which is my current setup for Xperia 1 ii.
Alza says "expected 14th September" but that would also mean shipping from Prague to UK for me. Could be earlier therefore, or later. I'll be preordering soon I reckon.
salespalace said:
will it come out from Wondamobile?
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Hmm unsure. So far I've only seen Alza sell it, nowhere else!
I've ended up just buying a mint condition oneplus 7t pro on ebay for around the same price of this phone. It does what I want and was easy to find.
Torn_Darkness said:
I've ended up just buying a mint condition oneplus 7t pro on ebay for around the same price of this phone. It does what I want and was easy to find.
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To be fair, that's a very good shout.
I had the oneplus 7 Pro prior to my current xperia 1 ii. It was a great phone, active rom development, loved the pop up camera and the gcam port made it a pleasure to take snaps with. My only slight gripe with it was the curved screen, I just wasn't a fan of it, but all in all a great phone.
As much as I love the Xperia there's just something not quite right for me about it. I know it's camera possibilities is one of its main features, but I miss the gcam and apparently (after speaking with the dev) hard to get working.
I love the flip camera on the Zenfone and do miss a 90hz display, plus with a likely more active rom community I'm gonna sell this and basically switch at no/little cost.
Hey guys, I'm presuming Alza only ships to the UK?
CVonV said:
Hey guys, I'm presuming Alza only ships to the UK?
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Nagh they're based in Czech Republic and seem to ship to a few EU counties (see attached)
cd993 said:
Nagh they're based in Czech Republic and seem to ship to a few EU counties (see attached)
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Ahhh cheers. Does VAT apply to all countries it ships to? Sorry I'm from Australia and don't know how it works over there. I'm thinking of having it shipped to a friend in either UK or Germany and have them ship it to me.
CVonV said:
Ahhh cheers. Does VAT apply to all countries it ships to? Sorry I'm from Australia and don't know how it works over there. I'm thinking of having it shipped to a friend in either UK or Germany and have them ship it to me.
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Hmm I presume so, it certainly showed in my pre order invoice.
Perhaps best check with them to confirm.
Good luck!
For French users only,
The Zenfone 7/7 Pro is only available on LDLC.com and official Asus store page. 699€ for the vanilla variant and 799€ for the Pro.
https://www.ldlc.com/recherche/zenfone 7/
https://eshop.asus.com/fr-FR/smartp...asus.com&utm_campaign=bouton-acheter-zenfone7
I've just preordered from here, a German site. Let's hope it makes it's way safely to me in the UK!
https://www.alternate.co.uk/ASUS/ZenFone-7-Pro-Cell-phone/html/product/1665534?
cd993 said:
I've just preordered from here, a German site. Let's hope it makes it's way safely to me in the UK!
https://www.alternate.co.uk/ASUS/ZenFone-7-Pro-Cell-phone/html/product/1665534?
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Any reason why you went with this site over Alza?
It's my girlfriend's birthday next weekend and she wanted a new iPhone. Now I've ordered here that (albeit a bad time as iPhone 12 will be out soon) I feel like I need to upgrade my 3 year old handset! ?
Think I'm settled on getting the ZenFone now, it ticks all the boxes for me.
Also, as no official UK release, I presume it will be shipped with EU charger?
crumble6 said:
Any reason why you went with this site over Alza?
It's my girlfriend's birthday next weekend and she wanted a new iPhone. Now I've ordered here that (albeit a bad time as iPhone 12 will be out soon) I feel like I need to upgrade my 3 year old handset! ?
Think I'm settled on getting the ZenFone now, it ticks all the boxes for me.
Also, as no official UK release, I presume it will be shipped with EU charger?
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I wished to use PayPal on this occasion and they accepted it.
They mention that they'll include an UK adapter, hopefully they actually will but no biggy if not!
cd993 said:
I've just preordered from here, a German site. Let's hope it makes it's way safely to me in the UK!
https://www.alternate.co.uk/ASUS/ZenFone-7-Pro-Cell-phone/html/product/1665534?
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According to their customer service they're due to receive it in the next couple days (9th September).
Will keep you posted. So far excellent customer service.
It's now arrived at Alternate!
https://www.alternate.co.uk/html/product/1665534
cd993 said:
It's now arrived at Alternate!
https://www.alternate.co.uk/html/product/1665534
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Awesome! Looking forward to seeing some GCam samples when people start receiving their new handsets.
Hi all,
I'm about to purchase the phone, just hope can clear the air on some basic questions.
1. Is there a 16gb ram 512gb rom transparent version?
2. What are some of the major difference between china rom and global rom?
3. Any recommendations on shippers for singapore?
alvinkh said:
Hi all,
I'm about to purchase the phone, just hope can clear the air on some basic questions.
1. Is there a 16gb ram 512gb rom transparent version?
2. What are some of the major difference between china rom and global rom?
3. Any recommendations on shippers for singapore?
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1. Check the seller.
2. Main difference would be the language support. I have used other phones before. I do not see the anything less or extra. All I did was to download Google Play from GetApps store (which is in Chinese). But, I typed Google Play and found it. So, just wait for the rest to tell you if they find anything different in ROMs.
3. You have various options. There is AliExpress, AliBaba, Cect-Shop, Giztop and TradingShenzhen. I have searched online and those are the sites that people are buying phones from. I do know specifically about Singapore. But, people are saying that they have bought phones from there. Make sure to do your own research on the seller that you are buying from.
I am from Singapore and I bought mine from Lazada.
Seifer1975 said:
I am from Singapore and I bought mine from Lazada.
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Oh ok i will check them out again thanks bro
caiclo said:
1. Check the seller.
2. Main difference would be the language support. I have used other phones before. I do not see the anything less or extra. All I did was to download Google Play from GetApps store (which is in Chinese). But, I typed Google Play and found it. So, just wait for the rest to tell you if they find anything different in ROMs.
3. You have various options. There is AliExpress, AliBaba, Cect-Shop, Giztop and TradingShenzhen. I have searched online and those are the sites that people are buying phones from. I do know specifically about Singapore. But, people are saying that they have bought phones from there. Make sure to do your own research on the seller that you are buying from.
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Bro i spoken to a few sellers in carousel and local shops, a few says there is a transparent for 16gb but no stock, the rest all mentioned there isn't. Checked on aliexpress, liaow, tradingshenzhen, wondamobile, none have the transparent version too. Kinda confused whether is it available.
No transparent 16/512. I think it was announced but never seen it anywhere.
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No transparent 16/512. I think it was announced but never seen it anywhere.
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hi bro, i just checked with a lot of sellers, some sellers had it and sold it during september, he told me he checked with his suppliers in china, transparent stopped production in september and currently temporary stopped production for black. not sure how true is it, but just fyi to all bros
I'm fed up of seeing threads on here and in places like Reddit asking how to add GMS to this phone. If you want GMS then why have you purchased a phone without it?
Either take the time to learn how to live without GMS or don't go buying phones without it. It really is that simple.
Yup. It is the first phone that can not install GMS. It is possible with P40 PRO but not with international P50 PRO, China is OK - it works (Harmony 2, not EMUI).
So we are dealing with it. No doubt about that.
Right now the international P50 PRO is crap. This is how we deal with it.
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Yup. It is the first phone that can not install GMS. It is possible with P40 PRO but not with international P50 PRO, China is OK - it works (Harmony 2, not EMUI).
So we are dealing with it. No doubt about that.
Right now the international P50 PRO is crap. This is how we deal with it.
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You mean moaning is how you are dealing with it.
So why buy a phone that doesn't come with GMS if all you are going to do is complain about it not having GMS? Do you go out and deliberately buy a red car just so you can moan about the fact it's not blue?
I love the way P30 PRO works, I skiped P40 PRO (worked with googlefier), P50 PRO China works also. International is crap. At the time of my purchase I did not have information of the "crap" diference. There is no color logic here.
The phone works properly, according to the manufacturer.
It is only your fault that you did not find out properly before the purchase; lack of proper information does not mean that a product sucks ...
If you buy something only on the basis of assumptions, you will end up with such results.
Shymmy said:
The phone works properly, according to the manufacturer.
It is only your fault that you did not find out properly before the purchase; lack of proper information does not mean that a product sucks ...
If you buy something only on the basis of assumptions, you will end up with such results.
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Phone does not suck. It is one of the best phones on the market. I know that for sure. That is why I bought it.
But that does not change the that the phone is CRAP without GMS. I bought Chinese version with Harmony. I got this EMUI crap. My fault is just buying this crap. Info about EMUI and not Harmony came with the phone. I would still use my P50 PRO if I could "uncrap" it.
So you bought a Chinese version, but you received an international one ??
That means you have been cheated by the seller ...
I preordered it when there was only one version. I did not specifically said:"Don't sell me the crap EMUI version.", because it did not exist at my order time. This is now the only version you get around here.
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I preordered it when there was only one version. I did not specifically said:"Don't sell me the crap EMUI version.", because it did not exist at my order time. This is now the only version you get around here.
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Whether you purchased the Chinese or international version is irrelevant. You would of bought a phone that did not come with GMS. Even if you got the Chinese version you'd eventually start complaining once the exploits got patches.
I am not complaining. I just explained my point that the phone is crap without GMS. No need to change my mind. You should respect my point of view. I am not trying to change anybodies mind. This is simply what I think of this phone. I explained why I bought it. You may use it as you like. Enjoy. It looks like your expectations are fully filed. Mine are not. So for me it is a crap.
Another thing is that most of other phones can be unlocked and rooted. This one? CRAP! You can't.
I bought the phone and I can do with it what I like. Right now it is in the original box waiting to be "uncraped". If you want to offer serius buck let me know. This crap is for sale.
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I am not complaining. I just explained my point that the phone is crap without GMS. No need to change my mind. You should respect my point of view. I am not trying to change anybodies mind. This is simply what I think of this phone. I explained why I bought it. You may use it as you like. Enjoy. It looks like your expectations are fully filed. Mine are not. So for me it is a crap.
Another thing is that most of other phones can be unlocked and rooted. This one? CRAP! You can't.
I bought the phone and I can do with it what I like. Right now it is in the original box waiting to be "uncraped". If you want to offer serius buck let me know. This crap is for sale.
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Your point of view and yet you keep saying we.
But anyway please go ahead and sell your phone. I'm sure the buyer will be mature enough to appreciate it for what it is rather than wishing it was something it is not.
carbonize said:
Your point of view and yet you keep saying we.
But anyway please go ahead and sell your phone. I'm sure the buyer will be mature enough to appreciate it for what it is rather than wishing it was something it is not.
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Noted. Mature buyer like me. I can see that you would like to make all P50 PRO look like a shiny pearl. If you ask me it is crap (international version). You can not change that with your "mature" aproach.
And it is not what I wish it would be. You are right.
Do you want it? 800 europen shilings and it is yours. Shipping included. Warranty from this year at local telecom.
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Noted. Mature buyer like me. I can see that you would like to make all P50 PRO look like a shiny pearl. If you ask me it is crap (international version). You can not change that with your "mature" aproach.
And it is not what I wish it would be. You are right.
Do you want it? 800 europen shilings and it is yours. Shipping included. Warranty from this year at local telecom.
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As I only paid £550 for mine be brand new I'll pass.
I paid 880€ with discount and 2 years of bond to operator. Mine was one of the first in the city. Your price was fair. I completely understand your pass.