Any word if this (or the 3A XL) will support HDMI output via alt-mode (or some other way)?
No.
Google hasn't made a Nexus or Pixel phone with video out for 5 years (Nexus 6, 6p, Pixel 1, 2, 3).
The last Google phone with video output was the Nexus 5, released Nov. 2013.
anarchos said:
Any word if this (or the 3A XL) will support HDMI output via alt-mode (or some other way)?
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Even if Desktop mode is coming with Android 10, the Pixel 3a is not compatible with USB-C to HDMI adapters, confirmed by Google Product Expert on Google support ...
https://translate.google.com/transl...rt.google.com/pixelphone/thread/5690157?hl=it
When you filter accessories in the official Google Store by Pixel 3a, you will be shown this USB-C to HDMI adapter. It's unclear if it's officially compatible though.
https://store.google.com/product/moshi_usb_c_hdmi_adapter?hl=en-US
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When you filter accessories in the official Google Store by Pixel 3a, you will be shown this USB-C to HDMI adapter. It's unclear if it's officially compatible though.
https://store.google.com/product/moshi_usb_c_hdmi_adapter?hl=en-US
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this is what I am wondering.
bug on the webshop, human error *cough* negligence *cough*, move on, at this pricepoint people should be ashamed when asking for proof of features like this.
I remember the Nexus for had USB OTG listed in the specs, but when it came out it didn't have it. There was quite a outcry (I returned mine no restocking fee). They later enabled it via software but you had to provide your own power.
HDMI over USB has been done on the Pixel 3a using a displaylink certified cable/adapter...
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I want to buy battery pack for my note 8 but I am confused between
1.Samsung Universal USB Extended Battery Up Pack for Smartphones and Tablets includes cables (9000mAh)
Price:54.99$
AmazonLink
2.Anker Astro Pro 14400mAh Portable Power Bank Pack External Battery Charger for iPads, Samsung Tablets, iPhones, Android Smart Phones (Dual USB Output: 5V, 2A; DC Output: 9V / 12V, 2A) [4 connectors for mobile phones, 6 connectors for tablets, US AC adapter included](Lightning Cable not Provided)
Price:59.99
AmazonLink
Please provide your opinions guys so that I can decide which one to buy
Thank you
I usually go for non branded units of eBay they are simply cheaper. But having a look at your two choices I'd recommend the Anker Astro Pro 14400mAh. Neither on the Amazon page nor the Samsung product page could I find the the output amps for the Samsung. For most modern devices you need to have a 2A output. The Anker clearly states that it has
2 x USB 5V 2A (special circuit design for Apple and Samsung Galaxy Tab)
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sankeerths said:
I want to buy battery pack for my note 8 but I am confused between
1.Samsung Universal USB Extended Battery Up Pack for Smartphones and Tablets includes cables (9000mAh)
Price:54.99$
AmazonLink
2.Anker Astro Pro 14400mAh Portable Power Bank Pack External Battery Charger for iPads, Samsung Tablets, iPhones, Android Smart Phones (Dual USB Output: 5V, 2A; DC Output: 9V / 12V, 2A) [4 connectors for mobile phones, 6 connectors for tablets, US AC adapter included](Lightning Cable not Provided)
Price:59.99
AmazonLink
Please provide your opinions guys so that I can decide which one to buy
Thank you
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I got an Anker 13000 portable power pack. It works slick.
+1 for anker...i have the 10000 model and it's great, and their support is awesome
I was just reading about the top 5 most popular external battery packs over on Life HAcker and the Anker was the most popular among users polled.
I'd post a link but I'm still in noob status.
8A/h should be good enough for Note 8. More than that only increases the overall weight.
This from amazon great, too.
DEFINITELY get the Samsung. It's much more compact and better made than the others, you won't regret getting it.
Here is another option @ 15600mAh for about $149
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Never hurts to have more power...plus you can charge more than one device at the same time.
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Battery Pack,
20 000 mAh would be pretty nice.
dtziheucdavis said:
DEFINITELY get the Samsung. It's much more compact and better made than the others, you won't regret getting it.
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agreed...it is awesome and better than anker IMO
I just ordered this one today, it will be here Tuesday-
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D5T3QK4/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Anker Astro E5 15000mAh Portable Ultra-High Density High Capacity External Battery Backup Charger for iPhone 5 (Lightning Adapter not included), 4S, 4, iPad 4, 3, 2, Mini, iPods, Samsung Galaxy S4, S3, S2, Note 2, Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1, Note 8, Tab 2; HTC One, EVO, Thunderbolt, Incredible, Droid DNA, Motorola ATRIX, Droid, Google Glass, Nexus 4, Nexus 7, Nexus 10, LG Optimus and More - Black
I'm interested in this phone, but I need to know does it have MHL 1.0 or MHL 2.0.
Wait for 3.0. Expect it on flagship products in late 2014?
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Wait for 3.0. Expect it on flagship products in late 2014?
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The phones I'm interested in fall in the mid-range category plus I don't care about 4K outside a movie theather, so MHL 3.0 doesn't matter to me regardless.
Do we know if this phone has MHL 1.0 or MHL 2.0?
As per the rumors, Oneplus 7 will sticks with ac wifi standard. What you guys think about Oneplus 7 pro?
I thought the sd855 had ax built in? If not and its going to be ac, not a big deal for me as ax is new and the adoption rate will take a while.
It's ax-ready, it should be compatible but i have no idea if Oneplus is going to support it
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I thought the sd855 had ax built in? If not and its going to be ac, not a big deal for me as ax is new and the adoption rate will take a while.
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Snapdragon 855 had different variants, Some processor of 855 still have ac and higher variant of the processor has ax it seems.
Why create a poll for this? We don't know cos OnePlus hasn't announced this, although other phones with the same chipset will have ax but the gsmarena page for the OnePlus 7 Pro shows "Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac"
I did message Carl and Pete on Twitter but didn't get an answer.
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Why create a poll for this? We don't know cos OnePlus hasn't announced this, although other phones with the same chipset will have ax but the gsmarena page for the OnePlus 7 Pro shows "Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac"
I did message Carl and Pete on Twitter but didn't get an answer.
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Yes, Snapdragon 855 had builtin ax standard. But I saw in GSM arena, it's still in ac. I didn't read any leaks about this, If oneplus 7 pro will have wifi6, It would be good.
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Yes, Snapdragon 855 had builtin ax standard. But I saw in GSM arena, it's still in ac. I didn't read any leaks about this, If oneplus 7 pro will have wifi6, It would be good.
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Can't really trust GSM arena at the moment. Yesterday it showed under Sound 3.5mm Jack= yes. Today it shows no. Also under COMMS, USB it shows 2.0, Type-C 1.0 reversible connector. I read in a few places it was confirmed to have USB 3.1 Type-C.
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Can't really trust GSM arena at the moment. Yesterday it showed under Sound 3.5mm Jack= yes. Today it shows no. Also under COMMS, USB it shows 2.0, Type-C 1.0 reversible connector. I read in a few places it was confirmed to have USB 3.1 Type-C.
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GSM arena is completely unreliable and with many devices writing wrong specs.
For example the most resent example is Oppo Reno 10x Zoom that has stereo speakers as well type c 3.1 version and GSM arena still after a month announced and didn't update the real specs.
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No WiFi 6 would be a big oversight / bad decision.
On their website it says AC.
I'm evalueting to buy a tablet eather for work and chill
I'm in search of only one "special" feature the MHL support aka usb to hdmi support for use it with old projectors and monitors who doesn't support mirroring
It is possible that almost every phone has this implementation but not so much tablets?
I' m watching to something similar to the Xiaomi Mi Pad 5 for specs, price and accesories (pen and a proper keyboard)
Do you have any suggestion?
Thanks
Have you ever wondered why the Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra retails at $1,000 while Realme GT with the same processor and 120Hz Amoled Screen retails at $460 - less than half the price of the Samsung?
Today, I will discuss how most Android phone manufacturers cut corners to sell many Android phones cheaply without most users knowing.
Is this really a bad thing? Em! The Answer is not a straight yes or no as I'll explain shortly.
However, we will focus on one act of cutting corners that proves costly when your Android screen breaks or the Touch screen stops working - the USB Alt mode!
A rich feature of Android that should be on every Android phone, but it's not, and most OEMs who sell phones cheaper don’t want you to know.
But if You'd like to know more about it, let’s go check it out.
Before we go into the USB ALT mode,
How do Android OEMs keep cutting corners and selling phones cheap?
The most straightforward answer is the Android Midrange phone segment!
As Android Midrange phones got better and better over the past three years, more premium features like Flagship processors, top quality camera sensors, NFC, super quick charging, bigger batteries, 120Hz refresh rate AMOLED screens and more. You don't need to spend $1000 to get a good Android phone. $400 - $500 will give you a good Android phone that serves all your phone needs and there are plenty of options in this top midrange segment.
Wireless charging, IP certification for dust and water resistance, latest camera sensors and optical image stabilisation may just be the few features exclusive to premium Android Flagship phones. The reality is over 90% of Android phone users can comfortably use their phones without wireless charging and IP certification. Which means that Android OEMs can continue to cut corners, sell phones cheaper and still keep the majority of the users happy.
You may already know that Android OEMs reduce premium glass back down to cheap plastic, Replace Aluminium phone chassis with plastic and use a two-year-old processor in their midrange phone. However, they cut a corner that you probably haven't heard about yet.
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While Android OEMs can cramp in more hardware into midrange phones, these hardwares are poorly Utilized. Top-end processors - poor cooling system, great camera sensor - no optical image stabilization. I can go on and on about underutilized hardware in Android midrange phones. It gets even worse when it comes to software optimisation in Android midrange and Flagship killers.
You barely get 2 years of Android OS upgrade, security updates don’t come monthly and after sale support amongst Android midrange is next to none. If you think this is all, just fasten your seat belt cause we are about to take off.
The USB Alternative mode exposes how Android OEMs cut deep corners to the detriment, growth and robustness of the Android ecosystem.
What is USB ALT Mode?
USB ALT Mode is a functional extension of USB type C which enables USB connections to carry non-USB signals. ALT MODES are optional capabilities that are unique to the USB-C connector or port that allow technologies like Display Port, Thunderbolt, reversible charging, transmitted via USB-C.
The USB ALT mode allows your Android phone to deliver up to 4k video at 60FPS from your USB C port, charge another device, Receive digital sound or multiple joystick connections all from your USB C port. Let's stick to the USB C display out function because several Android Flagship devices already have this function.
So, How do Android Phone Manufacturers avoid adding a display port to their phone's USB C?
The easiest way Android OEMs cut this corner is simple - continue to use USB C v2.0 instead of V3.1 and beyond. USB ALT MODE Display port requires USB C v3.1 and Above therefore, Android OEMs stick with USB C v2.0 and boom, no need to talk about Display port
Let's take a little quiz - Is your current Smartphone using USB C v2.0, 3.0, 3.1 or 3.2?
Let's make it practical. The Realme GT2 Pro and the OnePlus 10 Pro are similar devices or a clone of each other as they share the same specs in everything but one. The Oneplus 10 Pro costs 18% higher than Realme GT 2 Pro and you want to know how Realme cut that corner? The GT 2 Pro Uses USB type C v2.0, While the Oneplus 10 pro uses USB type C v3.1 with a display port function
So, what’s my point?
There will be no need for me to make a series of videos on how to access or use your phone with a dead or broken screen if your USB-C is also a display port. It could have been the same way you plug in an external monitor to your Laptop, PC or Mac when the internal screen is bad or not good enough.
USB ALT Mode was released in 2014 and 8 years later, it is not available in any Android Midrange phones.
Sadly, Google was the first Android OEM that failed to implement the USB Alt mode display port when the Pixel 2 launched with USB-C v3.1 in 2017. Maybe Google trying to sell more Chromecast devices contributed to that as it. Today, Chromecast is probably half dead and Google still disabled USB C display out for recent Pixel phones.
In 2018, Samsung implemented the USB ALT mode Display port with the debut of the Samsung Galaxy S8 series. However, Samsung had to add their interest to display port, launched Samsung Dex and sold a composite product - the Dex Duck- for over $100 if you want to use the display port features in all its glory. Samsung Dex didn’t turn out so successful and my $5 knockoff adapter works fine for USB C to HDMI display and enables Samsung Dex if I connect the charger. I will put a link to the adaptor in the video description. It is also available for iPhones starting from the iPhone 6s.
There is no way I will end this video without mentioning Xiaomi. Four years after Samsung started using USB-C v3.1 and display port in its flagship phone, Xiaomi’s 2022 flagship Mi 12 Pro is still stuck with USB-C v2.0. USB ALT mode Display Port cannot be implemented with USB-C v2.0 so, don’t bother checking.
Xiaomi has migrated into the Android Top tier of premium phones but somehow, still cuts corner. The Mi 11 Ultra that retailed for $1100 for the base configuration - a true premium flagship Android phone from Xiaomi. However, corners were still cut because the Mi 11 Ultra had a USB-C v2.0 without the Display port function of the USB ALT mode. How do you sell a phone over $1000 dollar with USB C v2.0? I will put a list of Android devices that support USB-C display port in the video description, do check it out before thinking of your next phone.
I just feel that Android OEMs should stop this madness of upping the specs each year without maximising the available Hardware features in improving software experience.
so, focusing on hardware/software optimizations will do the Android ecosystem a whole world of Good.
I really recommend Samsung for giving 4 years of Android OS upgrade from S22 series and I want Google and other Android OEMs to do likewise for all Android phones.
Let me know what you think in the comment section. Do you think Android OEMs should focus on improving the general software experience more than just specs sheets?
How to get to know which USB-C version your smartphone uses? Is there an app or adb command or something to check this? I'm interested which version the S23 Ultra has