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not to discredit anyone who has said OTA vs. manual makes no difference (especially respected developers, which I am a developer myself looking forward to getting started on Android soon after I get settled at my new job learning Microsoft stuff), but I wanted to see what would happen if I let update happen via OTA instead of the manual method. the real reason is due to the varying of results people are reporting (especially the biggest change people said they noticed that I was looking forward to, which was speakerphone volume). so far, the only thing I've really noticed was improved 3G (which could be a placebo fix they put in similar to Apple's "better signal" display, but i was actually still connecting to 3G on my way home from work in places I normally don't......a co-worker/friend of mine reported the same results).
so far, after moving BACK to GRJ22:
- my WIFI has actually been the same on GRJ22 again (thought I was getting better WIFI here at work post the update)
-tethering works (kind of a duh since it was confirmed by Sprint that it breaks with the update)
-speaker volume is the same (way too weak for my tastes)
-no 4G widget (would have been nice but wasn't upset when I found it wasn't added in GRJ90)
-3G SEEMS slower (haven't done speed tests)
it's getting too hard for me to just stay on GRJ22 though, so I will probably just manually update and wait to test this again after the 3 weeks are up if I notice bugs or something, so I'd REALLY appreciate it if anyone could do provide actual like measured and tested results from letting the OTA happen instead of manually upgrading....
jrdatrackstar said:
not to discredit anyone who has said OTA vs. manual makes no difference (especially respected developers, which I am a developer myself looking forward to getting started on Android soon after I get settled at my new job learning Microsoft stuff), but I wanted to see what would happen if I let update happen via OTA instead of the manual method. the real reason is due to the varying of results people are reporting (especially the biggest change people said they noticed that I was looking forward to, which was speakerphone volume). so far, the only thing I've really noticed was improved 3G (which could be a placebo fix they put in similar to Apple's "better signal" display, but i was actually still connecting to 3G on my way home from work in places I normally don't......a co-worker/friend of mine reported the same results).
so far, after moving BACK to GRJ22:
- my WIFI has actually been the same on GRJ22 again (thought I was getting better WIFI here at work post the update)
-tethering works (kind of a duh since it was confirmed by Sprint that it breaks with the update)
-speaker volume is the same (way too weak for my tastes)
-no 4G widget (would have been nice but wasn't upset when I found it wasn't added in GRJ90)
-3G SEEMS slower (haven't done speed tests)
it's getting too hard for me to just stay on GRJ22 though, so I will probably just manually update and wait to test this again after the 3 weeks are up if I notice bugs or something, so I'd REALLY appreciate it if anyone could do provide actual like measured and tested results from letting the OTA happen instead of manually upgrading....
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It makes no difference how you acquire and apply it....you literally get the exact same package you would manually download. Someone just went into the logcat and grabbed the URL so everyone else doesn't have to wait for their IMEI/ESN to be flagged for the update.
There are some commits in the git repo that show a 1 db volume raise for call rx in speakerphone and a gain adjustment, but those are from 3/28 - unsure if they were merged for the previous OTA or not.
http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=ke...it;h=07f1a225e4cc598be5761104a73c92fcb7ec26a7
http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=ke...it;h=7298b54d8c7fa73722a8a34ba86af09b60d8c416
2.3.5 does show new Broadcom firmwares added for bcm4329.
http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/system/wlan/broadcom.git;a=summary
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It makes no difference how you acquire and apply it....you literally get the exact same package you would manually download. Someone just went into the logcat and grabbed the URL so everyone else doesn't have to wait for their IMEI/ESN to be flagged for the update.
There are some commits in the git repo that show a 1 db volume raise for call rx in speakerphone and a gain adjustment, but those are from 3/28 - unsure if they were merged for the previous OTA or not.
http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=ke...it;h=07f1a225e4cc598be5761104a73c92fcb7ec26a7
http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=ke...it;h=7298b54d8c7fa73722a8a34ba86af09b60d8c416
2.3.5 does show new Broadcom firmwares added for bcm4329.
http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/system/wlan/broadcom.git;a=summary
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i actually saw that android.git.kernel page before the update dropped (in reference to the speakerphone volume) so that is what kept me believing that speakerphone volume should be raised in this update. the lack of the 4G widget that was STILL in the 7/25/2011 changelog notes makes me think that it's possible that speakerphone fix was NOT added in this release either
but again....it's conflicting because people have been reporting a noticeable increase in volume. what i saw everyone mentioning was that they noticed a difference in OVERALL speakerphone volume (music, alarm, calls, etc..), whereas that git file says that it was increased in the CALL volume (which I am not noticing a difference for EITHER scenarios)....
jrdatrackstar said:
i actually saw that android.git.kernel page before the update dropped (in reference to the speakerphone volume) so that is what kept me believing that speakerphone volume should be raised in this update. the lack of the 4G widget that was STILL in the 7/25/2011 changelog notes makes me think that it's possible that speakerphone fix was NOT added in this release either
but again....it's conflicting because people have been reporting a noticeable increase in volume.....
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I'd suspect the volume changes were added if it's in the release notes. 1db isn't a huge change though and it's only on received volume for calls - so things like playing music should be unaffected.
You'll see in the commit details that it's only for voice calls, with a new table being introduced specifically for CDMA calls: cdma_voicecall_gain_table
The Gain adjustment however applies to standard playback: cdma_playback_gain_table
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I'd suspect the volume changes were added if it's in the release notes. 1db isn't a huge change though and it's only on received volume for calls - so things like playing music should be unaffected.
You'll see in the commit details that it's only for voice calls, with a new table being introduced specifically for CDMA calls: cdma_voicecall_gain_table
The Gain adjustment however applies to standard playback: cdma_playback_gain_table
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yea, i figured music shouldn't be affected. I'm confused about the Gain table your statement though (because of how you said "however"), as in:
you said things like music should be unaffected. what does the the "gain adjustment" refer to? thanks again for answering so promptly....
jrdatrackstar said:
yea, i figured music shouldn't be affected. I'm confused about the Gain table your statement though (because of how you said "however"), as in:
you said things like music should be unaffected. what does the the "gain adjustment" refer to? thanks again for answering so promptly....
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The 1db increase was to the table that is used for call volume.
The gain adjustment was made to the table used for standard playback. Gain (input level) is adjusted prior to amplification. From the commit notes it looks like the volume level (output level) itself was raised in the device so the gain was lowered to maintain a similar volume level. Otherwise you would have ended up with a potentially significantly higher output level.
The volume is raised at the latest version's device.
So, the codec gain is lowered to satisfy a certain volume.
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So in theory this should yield little change if the commit notes are to be believed.
Major rewrite - no longer uses the earpiece speaker
With the new app, you get 100 different volume levels from silent to full volume.
Works on Media/Alarm/Ringer & Notification/System (in-call excluded)
Still has the automatic overlay that appears when changing volume (ROM dependent) but also has a regular volume control app
More customisation
For those people using ROMs that don't support the automatic popup, there is a secondary launcher icon that shows the media volume dial for a few seconds.
48 Hour Trial: https://market.android.com/details?id=opotech.finevolumev2
Unlocker: https://market.android.com/details?id=opotech.finevolume.unlocker
Uninstall (or at least disable) the old app before using the new one
The old version of the app is now deprecated, but the unlocker will work with the old and new version. (you get both versions of the app if you buy the unlocker)
Deprecated
Fine Volume Control
I've just released a new app that enhances the standard media volume dialog by adding 2 functions:
A fancy volume dial (complete with glow) to use instead of repeatedly pressing the volume buttons
A finer volume setting that effectively lets you go below 1 bar of volume by redirecting sound to the earpiece speaker when you drop below a threshold marked on the slider.
Free version: https://market.android.com/details?id=opotech.finevolume
Full version: https://market.android.com/details?id=opotech.finevolume.unlocker includes more colours, dialog styles, adjustable dial sensitivity, size, toggle button pulse and removal of ads.
Let me know what you think.
Thanks!
Looks nice, but force closes on MIUI, but maybe that's to be expected.
Great Idea. I just tried the free version and am having a couple problems. There is no visual indication when turning the "dial". Some animation with min and max gauges would be nice.
My volume bar now doesn't increase or decrease when changing volume. No matter what the volume bar is always 3/4 full. I can see the yellow indicator line but it means nothing when the bar doesn't move.
This is a great idea. I definitely like being able to control the volume without pressing the hardware buttons, because mine are a bit worn down.
Unfortunately, your app doesn't work on my HTC Desire (using Gingerbread Sense). When I press either volume button, the normal Volume pop-up appears. When you update the app, I will try it again
Good luck and keep up the great work!
jzuijlek said:
Looks nice, but force closes on MIUI, but maybe that's to be expected.
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What version of android is MIUI? I've had a report of FC on a 3.2 device and it needs fixing for that. Unless MIUI has a different volume dialog layout, it should work. Can you post here or submit a stacktrace? Thanks!
Reeonimus said:
Great Idea. I just tried the free version and am having a couple problems. There is no visual indication when turning the "dial". Some animation with min and max gauges would be nice.
My volume bar now doesn't increase or decrease when changing volume. No matter what the volume bar is always 3/4 full. I can see the yellow indicator line but it means nothing when the bar doesn't move.
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There's a brushed texture to the dial that turns with it, maybe it's too faint. min/max could be added, good suggestion. What device/rom/version of android do you have?
asp2010 said:
This is a great idea. I definitely like being able to control the volume without pressing the hardware buttons, because mine are a bit worn down.
Unfortunately, your app doesn't work on my HTC Desire (using Gingerbread Sense). When I press either volume button, the normal Volume pop-up appears. When you update the app, I will try it again
Good luck and keep up the great work!
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Are you sure it's in media volume context? Currently it only applies to media. Also, is that 2.2?
Cheers
richardop said:
There's a brushed texture to the dial that turns with it, maybe it's too faint. min/max could be added, good suggestion. What device/rom/version of android do you have?
Cheers
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Hmm yeah it doesn't appear to move to me. I'm using an HTC Evo 3D 2.3.4 stock ROM rooted.
Again though, great idea for more fine control, I can't believe android doesn't have such a feature. Work the few kinks out and you have my support friend!
Acer A500, Android 3.1, FC. Report sent.
Reeonimus said:
Hmm yeah it doesn't appear to move to me. I'm using an HTC Evo 3D 2.3.4 stock ROM rooted.
Again though, great idea for more fine control, I can't believe android doesn't have such a feature. Work the few kinks out and you have my support friend!
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Does the volume level change and then redirect to the earpiece at all, so it's just that the UI is stuck?
daveid said:
Acer A500, Android 3.1, FC. Report sent.
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I've coded a fix for that crash, thanks! The dialog won't match the honeycomb theme (for now at least).
Another thing, the finer volume function won't work on a device if it's lacking an earpiece speaker. You'll still be able to use the dial to control media volume, though.
I'll release an update soon.
Just released an update.
V1.1
• Fixed F/C on Honeycomb and some non-stock ROMs.
• Tidied up Preference Screen.
richardop said:
Are you sure it's in media volume context? Currently it only applies to media. Also, is that 2.2?
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Yes, it was the media volume I tried to change. I'm using Gingerbread 2.3.3. I will try the update and some other ROM versions when I get home in a couple of days
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Thanks Dev. Just saw this and bought the unlocker. Left a comment... the first
Come on people! Install this, it's great.
nobnut said:
Thanks Dev. Just saw this and bought the unlocker. Left a comment... the first
Come on people! Install this, it's great.
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Thank you very much! You have pride of place
Downloading now will have a look and report back.
I like this idea an awful lot. Are there plans to extend functionality to other volume contexts like Ringer?
Sunblood said:
I like this idea an awful lot. Are there plans to extend functionality to other volume contexts like Ringer?
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Yes, ringer is on the list.
Don't see much of a difference in sensitivity (free version) when it comes to the fine tuning. However, threshold idea is great! Should unlock some more stuff for the free version. Seems almost all the useful stuff is locked! This app needs some work, but ultimately, pretty smart idea.
alexye said:
Don't see much of a difference in sensitivity (free version) when it comes to the fine tuning. However, threshold idea is great! Should unlock some more stuff for the free version. Seems almost all the useful stuff is locked! This app needs some work, but ultimately, pretty smart idea.
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LOL
I've a better idea. Why doesn't the Dev unlock everything in the free version and then make a 'donate' version available on the Market? The difference being that the Dev donates to the person downloading...
The idea is for people to buy this. You know, a bit of 'pay back' for all of the hours I am sure he put into it. If too much is unlocked then why would anyone bother?
Unbelievable.
EDIT: Congratulations on making the XDA News page
thanks about to try it out now.....
just download it
HTC EVO 3D with VirusRom (Senseless). The application works great, however, if the volume is at max and I press the volume up button, the FVC interface doesn't show. If I click the volume down button the menu will display. Would be great if the interface displayed either way, in case you needed to mute your phone in an instant, etc.
I've tried two different nougat roms with same effect, no-one is complaining about it so i can't find a solution.
When i make or receive a call i can adjust slider volume but not all the way down, i think it's stuck on 20%.
Not a big problem unless u have a loud-talker in the family like my sister, when she calls i hold the phone away from my ears.
When i flash back (restore) to lolipop problem is gone.
What could it be?
phone: 64gb
nougat roms: 1. Nitrogen latest & older one 2. Slim-bacon (latest)
InTheCage said:
I've tried two different nougat roms with same effect, no-one is complaining about it so i can't find a solution.
When i make or receive a call i can adjust slider volume but not all the way down, i think it's stuck on 20%.
Not a big problem unless u have a loud-talker in the family like my sister, when she calls i hold the phone away from my ears.
When i flash back (restore) to lolipop problem is gone.
What could it be?
phone: 64gb
nougat roms: 1. Nitrogen latest & older one 2. Slim-bacon (latest)
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OPO users compain about low in-call sound issue and you're complaining about High in-call issue,Lol.
btw,RR call-vol works fine here.
Do a search for volume fixes and do the reverse solution...
Cholerabob said:
Do a search for volume fixes and do the reverse solution...
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Which thread? There are so many but the ones i've read don't aply to my problem.
OPO users compain about low in-call sound issue and you're complaining about High in-call issue,Lol.
btw,RR call-vol works fine here.
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I will try that one now, but have a feeling it's the same.
Search for post #3333 from Timmmmaaahh
RR gave me same 'problem', will check out timmmaaah post now. ( u can right-click postnumber and post it, saves a lot of time , found it none the less )
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70918008&postcount=3333
I don't see any relevance with my problem in the #3333 post. Maybe it's my dyslectic reading, but i don't see it.
Little bump, a edit won't raise any attention.
The problem sort of solved itself, well not in my phone but my sister bought another phone with lower output volume.
Would still like to solve the bug but i don't know how.
I have the same problem (my voice is not heard by the caller). I have already edited build.prop, mixer_paths, and nothing worked. I used Magisk with an OPO-specific module and it did not work either.
Enviado de meu ONEPLUS A3000 usando Tapatalk
InTheCage said:
I've tried two different nougat roms with same effect, no-one is complaining about it so i can't find a solution.
When i make or receive a call i can adjust slider volume but not all the way down, i think it's stuck on 20%.
Not a big problem unless u have a loud-talker in the family like my sister, when she calls i hold the phone away from my ears.
When i flash back (restore) to lolipop problem is gone.
What could it be?
phone: 64gb
nougat roms: 1. Nitrogen latest & older one 2. Slim-bacon (latest)
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I have same problem and try to fix it, here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/help/sound-caller-verrryyy-loud-people-hear-t3817531
did you solve it?
I am trying to disable the media volume limiter. If I turn it off it temporarily is disabled. When I reboot it's I get the warning again even though the UI element for the setting still indicates it's disabled. I also tried to simply increase the volume limit to maximum but again the same thing happens, when I restart the phone I get the limit volume again.
Is there any way to disable the media volume limiter?
Screenshots are attached.
I am surprised this problem isn't more common and others don't experience the same. This has been bugging me since I got the phone 6 months ago. Anyone???
It can be done with Tasker, only way I've seen so far. That was on Android 7.0, haven't tried it on 8.0.
xpersimmon said:
I am trying to disable the media volume limiter. If I turn it off it temporarily is disabled. When I reboot it's I get the warning again even though the UI element for the setting still indicates it's disabled. I also tried to simply increase the volume limit to maximum but again the same thing happens, when I restart the phone I get the limit volume again.
Is there any way to disable the media volume limiter?
Screenshots are attached.
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xpersimmon said:
I am surprised this problem isn't more common and others don't experience the same. This has been bugging me since I got the phone 6 months ago. Anyone???
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mjones73 said:
It can be done with Tasker, only way I've seen so far. That was on Android 7.0, haven't tried it on 8.0.
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Had the same issue on my note 8, i found it works well and is alot simpler than using Tasker. Give it a try
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9-plus/themes/app-volumewarning-reverseprotrait-t3778873
Thank you for that find, I'll be installing it tonight when I get home.
I received this OTA update this morning. It contains camera & fingerprint optimizations as well as the July security patches , according to the changelog. The update file was over 4gb, so there must have been more changes right?
I received the same ota update, i downloaded it anyway regardless the file size.
I didn't get any update yet in UK. On which countries are you guys? I will try to use an VPN so maybe I an get it faster
Did you actually notice any of the improvements mentioned in the changelog?
It updated against my settings and will in the middle of the night, no clue how big it was or what it did, only that I know I confirmed that the settings were off every time the phone bothered me about automatic updates and yet it greeted me with a new update in the morning.
I need to either sell this phone or root it before the week is over or I will go insane.
orpheliaca said:
I didn't get any update yet in UK. On which countries are you guys? I will try to use an VPN so maybe I an get it faster
Did you actually notice any of the improvements mentioned in the changelog?
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Today I got it in baltic states. Fingerprint seems to be a little faster but I'm not sure. And phone feels smoother. For camera changing from main to telephoto transition is faster, some new options for doing video and better autofocus in my opinion. They must have done something more than just fingerprint and camera update because 4GB is pretty big update.
Got it today in Germany. Fingerprint seams much better now!
Got it today in Bulgaria .
Canadian updates are taking forever to be pushed. It's now August, and we're still on the June security patches.....
RMerlin said:
Canadian updates are taking forever to be pushed. It's now August, and we're still on the June security patches.....
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i just got the update for koodo, its 4.53gb but it says improves system security with android security patches. EMUI 9.1.0.185
deejaygur said:
i just got the update for koodo, its 4.53gb but it says improves system security with android security patches. EMUI 9.1.0.185
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Thanks for letting me know. Still nothing here with Fido, but if one Canadian provider started offering it, then they probably started the deployment and it shouldn't be too long now for the rest of us to get it (assuming we both have the C792 model that I have).
RMerlin said:
Thanks for letting me know. Still nothing here with Fido, but if one Canadian provider started offering it, then they probably started the deployment and it shouldn't be too long now for the rest of us to get it (assuming we both have the C792 model that I have).
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just to be clear it was mistake on my part i have P30 PRO version (C792). Im sure update come soon for everyone since this update was released on july 31.
deejaygur said:
just to be clear it was mistake on my part i have P30 PRO version (C792). Im sure update come soon for everyone since this update was released on july 31.
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Unfortunately that's not necessarily the case. The P30 Pro received multiple updates in the past 30-60 days, while my P30 only received a single one (9.1.0.164). Huawei are far more active at updating the P30 Pro than the P30, and some countries are getting even fewer updates than others. So, it could take weeks, if not months for it to finally appear on our P30s..
The P30 Pro received an update with the July security patches, while my P30 never received anything. I love this phone, but I already miss the steady flow of security updates that I used to get every month with my previous Nexus phones.
RMerlin said:
Canadian updates are taking forever to be pushed. It's now August, and we're still on the June security patches.....
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that's what happens when you arrest thier CFO :laugh:
same down here in the states...
I got a problems after the update.
The phone doesn't show me notifications anymore. They arrives, sounds and vibrations, but it doesn't show me any kind of notifications.
And even the power-off popup menu doesn't appear when I press off the power button.. there mus be some problems with screen layers or who knows what
Help! I don't want to reset
Try to wipe the cache partition this fixes most problems after a update....
I do this after every update and never had any problems...
This will not reset the whole phone so you will not lose any data...
Power off your device
Press and hold the power button and volume UP button until recovery mode appears
Use volume buttons to highlight ‘wipe cache partition’ and use power key to select it
Reboot the system once the process is completed
Enricosteph said:
Try to wipe the cache partition this fixes most problems after a update....
I do this after every update and never had any problems...
This will not reset the whole phone so you will not lose any data...
Power off your device
Press and hold the power button and volume UP button until recovery mode appears
Use volume buttons to highlight ‘wipe cache partition’ and use power key to select it
Reboot the system once the process is completed
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It worked!
Security patches, camera improvements (why they don't care to elaborate which one?) and fingerprint improvements shouldn't weigh more than 500-600mb.
If they made the update 4GB, which is a full ROM they obviously changed a lot of things more... why don't specify what is beyond my knowledge. Welcome to Huawei transparent communication with their customers about their products
9.1.0.185 just arrived on my C792 Canadian model, currently installing.
orpheliaca said:
Security patches, camera improvements (why they don't care to elaborate which one?) and fingerprint improvements shouldn't weigh more than 500-600mb.
If they made the update 4GB, which is a full ROM they obviously changed a lot of things more... why don't specify what is beyond my knowledge. Welcome to Huawei transparent communication with their customers about their products
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Could simply be that they recompiled everything with a newer toolchain or linked against newer libraries, causing image-wide changes to the files.
I still suspect tho that there are more changes than what the changelog states. Just looking at what was in updates on the P30 Pro these past two months (fingerprint reader improvements, camera improvements, etc...), some of these might possibly be in there. We are also supposed to be receiving voltage-based screen dimming at some point (versus the current PWM method).
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I think the new voltage-based screen dimming is indeed there. There's a Flicker Reduction setting now under Display -> Eye Comfort. So, there might be a few more hidden changes in this update.
How can we get this update here in UK?
My wifi calling doesn't work on the sim card which datas are enabled