G900v (OE1) Lollipop Root/Upgrade - Verizon Galaxy S 5 General

Hello,
I see there's been a lot that's happened since I've last been on here and I'd usually follow the guide, but I see it says it's "Outdated" so I want to solicit your advice as to where I should begin. My bank has decided their mobile app will no longer work for Android 5.0 users, so I need to upgrade my phone to at least 6.0, and I figure this is a good time to root it as well (if possible). It's a Verizon phone, but I"m currently in Europe (so no OTA updates are possible, which is probably good from what I can tell on the outdated guide). I've searched youtube and found the following guide, but I have to make sure I have a CID 15 phone vice 11 (I think that's all I need to worry about, but I'm not positive and I can't remember how to figure out which version I have eaither LOL):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HuCHNCbaqc
Do you see any issues with giving that a try, or am I better off just sticking with one of the two Stickie guides at the top of the forum? The issue I see with them is they seem to be more geared towards rooting and don't get into upgrading to a newer version (while maintaining the root). I could be wrong though (or didn't get through the posts far enough to get to that part). Looking forward to hearing your advice....TIA!

As I continue to browse the forum, I came across this one that may already answer my question (doesn't seem "Outdated" eaither.....although I will need to go to that outdated thread to flash to PB1):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...ewbies-guide-to-install-pb1-rom-root-t3481826
Unless someone advises otherwise, I think this is the way to go (gets me to marshmellow while maintaining Root, correct?)

As I continue to dig into this thread (https://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...-root-t3481826), it seems to be the most relevant for what I want to do (upgrade to marshmellow while keeping root access). As I go through and try to download everything that's required, I've hit a roadblock with respect to TWRP (specifically, it says to install TWRP 3.0.0 via ODIN, where you have to be sure to install the correct version of TWRP for your device). When I go to the site though, there are only a couple versions for a Galaxy S5, and I don't recognize any of them (Exynos, Neo Exynos, Mini Exynos, Plus, LTE-A, and Qualcom). Can someone point me to one that will work with mine (Verizon, OE1, CID 15)? The first link from a google search brings this up (https://dl.twrp.me/odin/twrp-3.0.0-0-odin.img.html), but it makes no reference to device versions so I'm hesitant to try it..........Or another thought may be that enough updates to TWRP have happened that they have fixed the issue where it didn't recognize SD cards after version 3.0.0, so I can just use Google Play Store to install the latest version and it should work fine.........thoughts? Many thanks!

I seem to keep answering my own questions as I continue to dig and google search. Looking further into each of the S5 TWRP devices, under the Qualcom link it specifically mentions the SM-G900v, so I'm going to go with that one and hope for the best

RetroRider said:
I need to upgrade my phone to at least 6.0, and I figure this is a good time to root it as well (if possible). It's a Verizon phone, but I"m currently in Europe
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1. Install this app from the Market to learn if your phone can have a rooted 6.0.1.
2. In any case it's possible to flash a "European" firmware to your phone. But the bootloaders and the kernel will remain original.
Schematically, you would need to:
1. Flash a combination rom, root it and install SafeStrap recovery.
2. Flash a desired rom via SafeStrap (system only) and make some tuning from this "recovery" if necessary.
3. Flash the original kernel and bootloaders via SafeStrap or Odin.
P.S. A good bank app will not allow to run it on a rooted phone.

I installed that eMMC app and under "Brick Bug?" it says "NO. Same Chip" - not sure what that means....does it mean it can't have a rooted 6.0.1?

RetroRider said:
I installed that eMMC app and under "Brick Bug?" it says "NO. Same Chip" - not sure what that means....does it mean it can't have a rooted 6.0.1?
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It also says "CID: XX......"
If XX is 15, you can have a rooted 6.0.1.
If XX is 11, you cannot.

RetroRider said:
I installed that eMMC app and under "Brick Bug?" it says "NO. Same Chip" - not sure what that means....does it mean it can't have a rooted 6.0.1?
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bbsc said:
It also says "CID: XX......"
If XX is 15, you can have a rooted 6.0.1.
If XX is 11, you cannot.
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Just to clarify with what @bbsc had stated...
CID15 = "Bootloader" CAN be Unlocked
CID11 = "Bootloader" CANNOT be unlocked
BOTH the CID11 and CID15 can be rooted. Identifying the CID# is only used to see if the devices Bootloader can be unlocked.
The following thread is one of a handful of decent ones to help with identifying the CID and the steps to take for both of them. Just be sure to read the OP carefully.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3561529
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Appreciate all the feedback and responses.....I finally cracked it last night. I struggled most of the day working my way through this guide:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...ewbies-guide-to-install-pb1-rom-root-t3481826
I never could get it to root (I think I came close once, but couldn't repeat it). After a while I figured I'd look and see if there were other guides and I came upon this one:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve.../testers-required-easier-root-method-t3561529
This was much easier and quicker and I rooted/upgraded on the second attempt (would have on the first attempt had I known I needed to uncheck the reactivation lock ahead of time). Now I need to go back and find the post that has the list of bloatware that is safe to uninstall LOL
Thanks again

Related

A Different "Root Jelly Bean" question

This might belong in the other "[Root] Jelly Bean" thread - I'll leave that to the moderators to figure out.
Can anyone vouch for the veracity of this method?
tutznet. com/ root-asus-transformer-tf700-android-41-jelly-bean. html (forgive the extra spaces - I'm too new to be able to post a URL.]
Honestly, I read all 39+ pages of that thread mentioned above, and I'm not confident I know what to do, and in what order, so I'm leery of trying it out. A noob like me can easily create an expensive brick if I screw it up. But this one seems sort of "plug-n-play" and is appealing for that reason. If you folks here validate it, I might try it out.
n4ogl said:
This might belong in the other "[Root] Jelly Bean" thread - I'll leave that to the moderators to figure out.
Can anyone vouch for the veracity of this method?
tutznet. com/ root-asus-transformer-tf700-android-41-jelly-bean. html (forgive the extra spaces - I'm too new to be able to post a URL.]
Honestly, I read all 39+ pages of that thread mentioned above, and I'm not confident I know what to do, and in what order, so I'm leery of trying it out. A noob like me can easily create an expensive brick if I screw it up. But this one seems sort of "plug-n-play" and is appealing for that reason. If you folks here validate it, I might try it out.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32293050&postcount=1
That would be a portion of the method laid out in the above thread...
n4ogl said:
This might belong in the other "[Root] Jelly Bean" thread - I'll leave that to the moderators to figure out.
Can anyone vouch for the veracity of this method?
tutznet. com/ root-asus-transformer-tf700-android-41-jelly-bean. html (forgive the extra spaces - I'm too new to be able to post a URL.]
Honestly, I read all 39+ pages of that thread mentioned above, and I'm not confident I know what to do, and in what order, so I'm leery of trying it out. A noob like me can easily create an expensive brick if I screw it up. But this one seems sort of "plug-n-play" and is appealing for that reason. If you folks here validate it, I might try it out.
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The instruction is assumed that you already unlocked and have custom recovery installed. If you provide your setup we can help.
1. Are you unlocked?
2. Do you have custom recovery installed like either twrp or cwm?
3. What os version you are running currently? I assumed you're on JB?
Thanks for the offer of assistance. I bought the TF700 on ICS, and immediately did the following (based on advice I hopefully gleaned correctly from this board):
- Factory Data Reset three times (by booting with the volume key held down, etc.), even wtih nothing personal done to it (like add my name as Owner, or install anything).
- Loaded the full update downloaded from the ASUS site and flashed (correct term?) accordingly. Those instructions, at least, I could figure out.
- Another FDR.
- Used as normal on the current version of JB. I believe it had a minor JB upgrade shortly after that, which I let it perform through the "You have an update" process.
As it sits, the TF700 works quite well for me, but I use Titanium Backup on my Droid Razr Maxx (for which I rooted using one of those "automated root" programs that worked well), and I'd like to use it here. And Root File Manager (also found on the Droid).
As a noob, the instructions for that other method (using CWM and SuperSU) look like they presume too much knowledge on my part of what to install and when, and I'm leery of creating an expensive brick. For example, there is something in there about "fastboot," but that is completely over my head.
buhohitr said:
The instruction is assumed that you already unlocked and have custom recovery installed. If you provide your setup we can help.
1. Are you unlocked?
2. Do you have custom recovery installed like either twrp or cwm?
3. What os version you are running currently? I assumed you're on JB?
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n4ogl said:
Thanks for the offer of assistance. I bought the TF700 on ICS, and immediately did the following (based on advice I hopefully gleaned correctly from this board):
- Factory Data Reset three times (by booting with the volume key held down, etc.), even wtih nothing personal done to it (like add my name as Owner, or install anything).
- Loaded the full update downloaded from the ASUS site and flashed (correct term?) accordingly. Those instructions, at least, I could figure out.
- Another FDR.
- Used as normal on the current version of JB. I believe it had a minor JB upgrade shortly after that, which I let it perform through the "You have an update" process.
As it sits, the TF700 works quite well for me, but I use Titanium Backup on my Droid Razr Maxx (for which I rooted using one of those "automated root" programs that worked well), and I'd like to use it here. And Root File Manager (also found on the Droid).
As a noob, the instructions for that other method (using CWM and SuperSU) look like they presume too much knowledge on my part of what to install and when, and I'm leery of creating an expensive brick. For example, there is something in there about "fastboot," but that is completely over my head.
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It's not that complicated, if you have someone leaded you. Again, I need you to answer the following question, so I can point you to the right direction; Do you plan to use custom rom/kernel? (if yes, you need to unlock your device, which void warantty) or you just want root?
buhohitr said:
It's not that complicated, if you have someone leaded you. Again, I need you to answer the following question, so I can point you to the right direction; Do you plan to use custom rom/kernel? (if yes, you need to unlock your device, which void warantty) or you just want root?
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All I want to do is root it. While I know there are some advantages to a custom ROM or Kernel, that's NOT what I forecast doing*. I plan to leave it on JB.
* = Caveat: Eventually ASUS will stop supporting this tablet, at which time I will probably look at custom ROMs if I still own it (and haven't EBay'd it).
n4ogl said:
All I want to do is root it. While I know there are some advantages to a custom ROM or Kernel, that's NOT what I forecast doing*. I plan to leave it on JB.
* = Caveat: Eventually ASUS will stop supporting this tablet, at which time I will probably look at custom ROMs if I still own it (and haven't EBay'd it).
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Since you already on JB, the only way you could root is to downgrade back to ICS (version .30). Here is general guide line:
1. Download full package firmware .30 from Asus site
2. Then use root tool to root,
3. Download and installed SuperSU to replace the old superuser
4. Download Voodoo OTA root keeper to preserve root (If you have a paid SuperSU version, you just have to click on "preserve root" and it automatically saved root for you).
5. Let the OTA upgrade to JB
6. Once done, use root keeper to restore root.
Here is the link to details:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833212
buhohitr said:
Since you already on JB, the only way you could root is to downgrade back to ICS (version .30). Here is general guide line:
1. Download full package firmware .30 from Asus site
2. Then use root tool to root,
3. Download and installed SuperSU to replace the old superuser
4. Download Voodoo OTA root keeper to preserve root (If you have a paid SuperSU version, you just have to click on "preserve root" and it automatically saved root for you).
5. Let the OTA upgrade to JB
6. Once done, use root keeper to restore root.
Here is the link to details:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833212
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not true my friend
you can unroot without downgrading to version .30
just take a look in the general section there is a HOWTO
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jokapo said:
not true my friend
you can unroot without downgrading to version .30
just take a look in the general section there is a HOWTO
sent from my cutting board
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I think he's looking to ROOT, but not to unlock!
I rooted and unlocked allready on JB
sent from my cutting board
Could you share the steps/sequence (in detail, not like the way they are described in that 40+ page thread, which is (IMHO) sparsely)?
jokapo said:
I rooted and unlocked allready on JB
sent from my cutting board
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Might wanna try out this thread then http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1969303

AT&T "kitkat" (firmware version D80020c) FAQ

Q: I have don't have the AT&T specific LG G2 (D800)...
A: Don't finish your question... this FAQ doesn't apply to you.
Q: Why won't my phone update?
A: Because your question doesn't include enough information.
Q: My phone currently is currently rooted (and may have been modified); can I update to kitkat (and retain root)?
A: Maybe, but maybe not. You are probably better off doing the procedure (found in another thread) to restore your phone to stock, using ioroot22 (or a more recent version)(found in yet another thread) to root it, but NOT make any other modifications. Then allow the 10o and 10q updates to apply. Then kitkat should apply and leave root intact.
Q: I read the previous answer - where are those other threads?
A: They can be found by searching, looking for stickies, etc. Hint: "ioroot22" is a good search term if looking for "ioroot22." To find a thread about restoring a phone to stock, "restore to stock" might be a great search term.
Q: Why are you calling it "firmware" and not "ROM"?
A: "ROM" stands for "read only memory." The fact that it can be updated (and easily modified) means that it's not ROM.
Q: How to I know which version of the firmware I have?
A: Settings->"About Phone"->"Software Information"->"Software version"
Q: My phone currently has a stock D80010d image. How can I update?
A: You need D80010q to update. First update to 10o, then see the next question.
Q: My phone currently has a stock D80010o image. How can I update?
A: You need to allow it to update to 10q first. kitkat doesn't seem to apply to anything other than 10q. Then see the next question.
Q: I currently have a stock D80010{d|o|q} image, but "update software" tells me there are no other updates. What do I do?
A: Annoy AT&T. If the first tech tells you that they can't push an update, thank them, hang up, and call back.
Q: "update software" tells me to try again in xx hours. I'm impatient. What do I do?
A: Change your time/date settings to manual, and step into the future (adjust the date.)
Q: What about "xposed framework"?
A: It doesn't work (yet.) rovo89 has fixes pending for the next release.
Q: I'm not currently using an AT&T tower (roaming) or I'm using a non-AT&T SIM. How do I update?
A: You don't. People have tried, but no one has been successful when roaming or using a non-AT&T SIM.
Q: How can I install the update without having AT&T's network push it to me?
A: No one yet knows. We have the file that is being pushed, but no one has figured out how to get the phone to install it. (You can flash the entire firmware, however...)
Q: Is there any way to jump directly to kitkat without messing with updates?
A: Yes, but it comes with two warnings... First, it will basically "factory reset" your phone (meaning you'll lose all data, settings, etc.) Second, there's no known way to root the phone after following this procedure. So, if you're okay with what is basically a "factory reset" on your phone and with losing root, jump to the following thread complements of @bigfau: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2662445
UPDATE (2014-Feb-28): Thanks to @AndroidUser00110001, if you have an older firmware with a working custom recovery, you can download and install something that allows you to jump directly to "stock" kitkat _and_ optionally root the device at the same time. HOWEVER, this will still erase any custom recovery on your phone, erase any modifications you've made to your /system partition, etc. For more information, instructions, downloads, and questions, please follow this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2665391
Q: So, I have the new kitkat firmware, but I decided that I want to root my phone after all. What do I do?
A: You'll have to use one of the "restore to stock" procedures to get your phone back to 4.2.2 (D80010d or D80010o), root that, and then have the '10q' and '20c' updates pushed to your phone from AT&T.
Q: Does this firmware have carrier IQ?
A: Yes.
Q: Can carrier IQ be removed?
A: No, but...
Q: Can carrier IQ be disabled?
A: Yes: using "disable service" from the play store (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.wq.disableservice), swipe over the "system apps", select "android system" and deselect the checkbox for "IQService"
Q: How do I install a custom recovery (CWM/TWRP) or kernel with this firmware?
A: At the present time, you can't. LG updated the bootloader with this firmware to fix the "loki" exploit which was being used to install custom recoveries and kernels. Be assured, however, that there are multiple people trying to find a way around the security mechanisms anyway. Note that it's still possible to flash an older bootloader along with and older firmware. See the threads on "how to restore to stock."
Q: Why isn't there any custom firmware available based on this official release?
A: I'm sure people are working on it already. However, how would you like to install it? (See above question...) Without a custom recovery, it'd be very difficult to package anything so a typical user could install it. Not many people would be willing to walk a typical user through the process of remounting the system partition and overwriting files. (Anyone who would be fluent with doing that has probably already started customizing their own device.)
Q: I want an RD, RC, or Moderator to walk me through everything. What do I do?
A: Keep wanting.
Q: Why is the sky blue?
A: It's not. It only appears blue to you. It's actually red. However, because you've been told your entire life that it's blue, it's altered your perception of which color is which.
Q: Is this really a FAQ?
A: No. It's just some lines I put together while doing my real (paying) job. Every time my boss looks over my shoulder, I have to make up some lame excuse on why I'm "working" on my hobby instead of what I'm being paid for.
Take care
Gary
Q: Why is the sky blue?
A: It's not. It only appears blue to you. It's actually red. However, because you've been told your entire life that it's blue, it's altered your perception of which color is which.
You... You... MONSTER! you ruined my life.
Do you think the D80010q .tot file would be of any use?
bigfau said:
Do you think the D80010q .tot file would be of any use?
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I doubt it can hurt, though people would be better off at this point flashing 10o, rooting, and then getting the updates pushed (so they retain root.)
wher I can find the file of kk ver?
garyd9 said:
I doubt it can hurt, though people would be better off at this point flashing 10o, rooting, and then getting the updates pushed (so they retain root.)
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@SuperSport explained it to me. If I get the D80010q .tot and flash it with Lg Tools, root, and then check for the update to D80020c. Hopefully root will still stick after Kit-Kat
updated with answers referring .TOT thread from @bigfau along with warnings. Thank you, bigfau, for getting that .tot file and posting it.
Is anyone currently working on recovery/bootloader bypass method, or are we waiting on more variants to be updated to KK. And thanks for the .TOT big
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muppetmaster916 said:
Is anyone currently working on recovery/bootloader bypass method
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Added question/answer for custom recovery/kernel.
garyd9 said:
Added question/answer for custom recovery/kernel.
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Thanks, appreciated.
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best FAQ ever!
Thanks for the FAQ Gary! I am running stock d80010d, every time I check for software updates I get this message "Your Phone is not registered yet." I have called both AT&T and LG twice about this, and no one seems to know whats going on. Any ideas?
suruat said:
Thanks for the FAQ Gary! I am running stock d80010d, every time I check for software updates I get this message "Your Phone is not registered yet." I have called both AT&T and LG twice about this, and no one seems to know whats going on. Any ideas?
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This thread might help you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2661999
garyd9 said:
This thread might help you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2661999
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This is the answer to my question! Much Thanks brother!
Root didn't seem to survive update
I was on D80010o and rooted.
I chatted with AT&T rep and updated to D80010q and then D80020c (Kit Kat).
I tried updating my su binary and it fails.
Disable Service says I'm not root.
Has this happened to anyone? Is there a way to update SU?
Thanks
vween said:
I was on D80010o and rooted.
I chatted with AT&T rep and updated to D80010q and then D80020c (Kit Kat).
I tried updating my su binary and it fails.
Disable Service says I'm not root.
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Your phone is no longer rooted. There's no way currently to root it. You can restore to D80010o, root the device, don't do anything else, and get AT&T to push the updates again.
garyd9 said:
Your phone is no longer rooted. There's no way currently to root it. You can restore to D80010o, root the device, don't do anything else, and get AT&T to push the updates again.
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Hmm... that's not good news.
Oh, well. I think I may just wait until a root method is found for 4.4.2.
Thanks!
So there's currently no actual way to disable carrier IQ without root right?
Knight613 said:
So there's currently no actual way to disable carrier IQ without root right?
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Apparently not. AT&T got wise to the previous little trick and buried that sucker good.
As longs as it isn't a buggy battery leech like the last version, I can live with it.
Has anyone outside the US without an AT&T SIM card been able to upgrade to AT&T's stock 4.4.2?
Thanks

Dumb newbie questions (eventually want to downgrade from Lollipop to Kit Kat)

I'm very new to the process of modifying android/firmware/rooting/etc... I want to regain FoxFi (wifi tether) functionality on my Verizon HTC One M8, which was lost with Lollipop. I had been fighting the update for months but it forced itself on me a few weeks ago. I believe my only real option is downgrading to Kit Kat.
I have a long post typed up with my plethora of questions after browsing around a number of forums and blogs the last few weeks, but there are so many basic terms, commands and things I don't understand... I figured it might make things go smoother if I just ask my stupid questions first and then proceed. Plus, I'm an engineer and am generally good with technology, and have wanted to pick up the skills needed to do software version changes/rooting etc for years now. I'll keep the other post typed up (took a while), but won't send it until I get some feedback here... so as to avoid undue spam and clutter.
So, with that all said, dumb question time. Please be kind, lol. Note - if there is an entry level video/picture-laden tutorial that will likely explain all of this, please point me that way and I'll get up to speed as much as i can on my own. There seem to be many tutorials out there but almost all of the One M8 ones seem to have lots of terminology in them I don't get ,yet:
1) What is an RUU?
2) What is the CID? (appears to just be a build # or software version associated with new updates)
3) What is the fastboot folder? What is "hboot"
4) Whats an ADSP?
5) Which SDK/Sync manager will I need on my PC? I have the basic HTC Sync manager (some links suggest its needed)
More questions as they occur to me, thanks all!
Well, hate to burst your bubble, but even after understanding all of these terms you can't downgrade to kit kat after taking the lollipop update. On Verizon htc ones, all system partitions/folders/files are write protected and cannot be modified with fastboot or RUU's in order to downgrade. As of right now, the only way to remove the write protection on lollipop is with an HTC Java card (this process / state is called s-off). Several people on xda have them and might help you out, particularly dottat.
Sorry for ignoring the main question here, I'm just offering what I know and I'll leave the explaining to someone a bit more knowledgeable with htc stuff to answer those questions. (I'm stuck in the same "lollipop lockdown" boat as you)
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Well, hate to burst your bubble, but even after understanding all of these terms you can't downgrade to kit kat after taking the lollipop update. On Verizon htc ones, all system partitions/folders/files are write protected and cannot be modified with fastboot or RUU's in order to downgrade. As of right now, the only way to remove the write protection on lollipop is with an HTC Java card (this process / state is called s-off). Several people on xda have them and might help you out, particularly dottat.
Sorry for ignoring the main question here, I'm just offering what I know and I'll leave the explaining to someone a bit more knowledgeable with htc stuff to answer those questions. (I'm stuck in the same "lollipop lockdown" boat as you)
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Appreciated, no worries!
I had noticed dottat was a prominent figure in many of the downgrade threads, so perhaps I'll try to reach out to him directly.
SadbutTrue999 said:
Appreciated, no worries!
I had noticed dottat was a prominent figure in many of the downgrade threads, so perhaps I'll try to reach out to him directly.
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For the time being, check the post here. Working solution
Apparently someone successfully rooted verizon htc one m8
Link to steps
You can downgrade back to 4.4.4 as long as you are S-off. It takes some patience to root and get sunshine to S-off. Just make sure you do not try to run an RUU (Rom Update Utility) of an earlier version if you are still S-ON. I would say that if you just want to wifi tether, S-off your phone, flash a recovery, then just flash a 5.1 Rom that has wifi tether working out of the box.
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You can downgrade back to 4.4.4 as long as you are S-off. It takes some patience to root and get sunshine to S-off. Just make sure you do not try to run an RUU (Rom Update Utility) of an earlier version if you are still S-ON. I would say that if you just want to wifi tether, S-off your phone, flash a recovery, then just flash a 5.1 Rom that has wifi tether working out of the box.
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So the order of operations is:
1) disable fastboot
2) root
3) unlock bootloader
4) go s-off
5) use RUU
?
As far as what i'm looking for... with Lollipop, tethering itself works, but they make you go through the verizon service (whereas past Android versions could be bypassed with some certificate trickery, which is what Foxfi did), and I don't want to pay $30/mo for something i was getting for free the last 3 years. I also want to root the phone for a few other applications.
I'm not sure what 5.1 Roms would support FoxFi on this phone out of the box (i've heard Samsung's Galaxy S6 continues to support foxfi with verizon and Lollipop, but i'm not sure i could use that rom), which is why 4.4.4 might be easier.
Questions:
1) Is the above order right?
2) Can you disable fastboot with Lollipop? I didn't see the option when i tried.. and i'm seeing some places online saying you can't. What then?
3) I downloaded ADB.. how to you get a command prompt up when connected to the one that lets you send commands to it? Seems basic but ADB has a milllion settings.
4) What else am i forgetting?
Just trying to figure out the first steps... its easy for a newbie to get buried in walkthroughs and new terms. Thanks again!
SadbutTrue999 said:
So the order of operations is:
1) disable fastboot
2) root
3) unlock bootloader
4) go s-off
5) use RUU
?
As far as what i'm looking for... with Lollipop, tethering itself works, but they make you go through the verizon service (whereas past Android versions could be bypassed with some certificate trickery, which is what Foxfi did), and I don't want to pay $30/mo for something i was getting for free the last 3 years. I also want to root the phone for a few other applications.
I'm not sure what 5.1 Roms would support FoxFi on this phone out of the box (i've heard Samsung's Galaxy S6 continues to support foxfi with verizon and Lollipop, but i'm not sure i could use that rom), which is why 4.4.4 might be easier.
Questions:
1) Is the above order right?
2) Can you disable fastboot with Lollipop? I didn't see the option when i tried.. and i'm seeing some places online saying you can't. What then?
3) I downloaded ADB.. how to you get a command prompt up when connected to the one that lets you send commands to it? Seems basic but ADB has a milllion settings.
4) What else am i forgetting?
Just trying to figure out the first steps... its easy for a newbie to get buried in walkthroughs and new terms. Thanks again!
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When it comes time to flash a ROM, I'd humbly suggest CleanROM. It's stock ROM with the Verizon bloatware removed, and it's already rooted for your convenience. Like you, my primary reason for installing a custom ROM was to be able to use my phone as a hotspot. (Verizon will have to pry my unlimited data plan from my cold, dead hands.) CleanROM's native tethering app works out of the box, so there's no need to even install a third-part app like FoxFi. Sadly, it appears that the developer is no longer supporting this ROM, but it's suiting my needs for the time being.
Anyway, I just purchased a used M8 running stock Lollipop last week and here's what I did:
1. Followed the directions here to achieve s-off. (There's nothing in these directions about disabling fastboot.)
2. RUU (because the phone was used and I have no idea what the previous owner did to this thing and I want to start fresh); I followed dodtat's instructions for Option 1, plopped the 0P6BIMG.zip file on my SD card, and let the phone do the rest.
3. Installed a custom recovery (the latest version of TWRP - installation instructions are on the linked page)
4. Installed CleanROM via TWRP
5. Enjoyed free tethering
Good luck!
dbrits said:
Like you, my primary reason for installing a custom ROM was to be able to use my phone as a hotspot. (Verizon will have to pry my unlimited data plan from my cold, dead hands.) CleanROM's native tethering app works out of the box, so there's no need to even install a third-part app like FoxFi. Sadly, it appears that the developer is no longer supporting this ROM, but it's suiting my needs for the time being.
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Glad I'm not alone! :hifive:
Anyway, I just purchased a used M8 running stock Lollipop last week and here's what I did:
1. Followed the directions here to achieve s-off. (There's nothing in these directions about disabling fastboot.)
2. RUU (because the phone was used and I have no idea what the previous owner did to this thing and I want to start fresh); I followed dodtat's instructions for Option 1, plopped the 0P6BIMG.zip file on my SD card, and let the phone do the rest.
3. Installed a custom recovery (the latest version of TWRP - installation instructions are on the linked page)
4. Installed CleanROM via TWRP
5. Enjoyed free tethering
Good luck!
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Thank you! That ought to get me started, I would think.
SadbutTrue999 said:
So the order of operations is:
1) disable fastboot
2) root
3) unlock bootloader
4) go s-off
5) use RUU
?
As far as what i'm looking for... with Lollipop, tethering itself works, but they make you go through the verizon service (whereas past Android versions could be bypassed with some certificate trickery, which is what Foxfi did), and I don't want to pay $30/mo for something i was getting for free the last 3 years. I also want to root the phone for a few other applications.
I'm not sure what 5.1 Roms would support FoxFi on this phone out of the box (i've heard Samsung's Galaxy S6 continues to support foxfi with verizon and Lollipop, but i'm not sure i could use that rom), which is why 4.4.4 might be easier.
Questions:
1) Is the above order right?
2) Can you disable fastboot with Lollipop? I didn't see the option when i tried.. and i'm seeing some places online saying you can't. What then?
3) I downloaded ADB.. how to you get a command prompt up when connected to the one that lets you send commands to it? Seems basic but ADB has a milllion settings.
4) What else am i forgetting?
Just trying to figure out the first steps... its easy for a newbie to get buried in walkthroughs and new terms. Thanks again!
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You can use tethering for free on lollipop with s-off.
Not sure about foxfi but with the stock Verizon app.
andybones said:
You can use tethering for free on lollipop with s-off.
Not sure about foxfi but with the stock Verizon app.
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dbrits said:
Anyway, I just purchased a used M8 running stock Lollipop last week and here's what I did:
1. Followed the directions here to achieve s-off. (There's nothing in these directions about disabling fastboot.)
2. RUU (because the phone was used and I have no idea what the previous owner did to this thing and I want to start fresh); I followed dodtat's instructions for Option 1, plopped the 0P6BIMG.zip file on my SD card, and let the phone do the rest.
3. Installed a custom recovery (the latest version of TWRP - installation instructions are on the linked page)
4. Installed CleanROM via TWRP
5. Enjoyed free tethering
Good luck!
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Just to be clear... the 3rd step (of 21) in that first link you show is "RUU". Does this mean I should do it twice (and if so.. with different versions?), or will one RUU do it?
Sounds like his method to achieving S-off is just a series of checking the right buttons within a factory reset phone. Is that right?
andybones said:
You can use tethering for free on lollipop with s-off.
Not sure about foxfi but with the stock Verizon app.
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Hmm, really? Interesting. Stock verizon app works fine, only used foxfi because in the past its met my needs.
Quick question... I've downloaded the java developer kit, ADB, and Android Studio. How do I verify they're working when i connect the phone? Is there a way to send a harmless ping/command/etc to the phone to check?
Few more questions regarding the s-off instructions:
1. Just did a factory reset. Also deleted everything on the SD card. Questions
a) Is a straight delete on the sd card ok or do i need to format? IF the latter, what do i format to?
b) How to I check the 'status' of the bootloader? Is that in one of the hard reset/fastboot menus? Or can i just let the thing start up and check it in the system menu somewhere?
2)
And if I do option 1, as you did... its the file here: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95916177934537709
that i rename 0P6BIMG.zip
right?
3) Both kingroot and TWRP seem like they can be downloaded to the phone after the fact. And both seem fairly straight forward. Do I need to do anything else for them to work?
4) Lastly... I believe i can do this all with the SIM card out? (seems like perhaps that is ideal, actually)
Just followed quite the droid root alice in wonderland rabbit hole...
Found some old S-off procedures but they appear to be defunct, which led me back to the 'sunshine' s-off approach you listed.
I followed the sunshine approach listed (the one here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61920423&postcount=3652)
and get to:
File Manager App -> Install KingRoot (accept google checking apps)
Open KingRoot - Hit Root (read notes section at this point) and repeat until it says you have it in this app.
Back out of KingRoot, and uninstall the P~~~ whatever app and the KingUser app it installed by dragging from the app drawer into the uninstall icon.
File Manager App -> Install the SuperSU posted
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Kingroot is installed, but reports "root is not available" (ostensibly because security is still on). So I still don't know how to turn S-oFF. I'm also not sure what the "P~~~~~ whatever" app he refers to is.
Help appreciated Phone not bricked yet
Just to be clear... the 3rd step (of 21) in that first link you show is "RUU". Does this mean I should do it twice (and if so.. with different versions?), or will one RUU do it?
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I didn't RUU twice. I just did a factory reset before following the s-off instructions. You actually have to be s-off before using the specific RUU that I linked to.
Quick question... I've downloaded the java developer kit, ADB, and Android Studio. How do I verify they're working when i connect the phone? Is there a way to send a harmless ping/command/etc to the phone to check?
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I googled "android adb" and this was the third link. I'm sure there are some great tutorials here on xda too.
a) Is a straight delete on the sd card ok or do i need to format? IF the latter, what do i format to?
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SD card should be formatted FAT32.
And if I do option 1, as you did... its the file here: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95916177934537709 that i rename 0P6BIMG.zip right?
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No, that's the wrong file. Use that standalone zip if you want to RUU, but you have to be s-off before using the standalone zip that dodtat posted.
Kingroot is installed, but reports "root is not available" (ostensibly because security is still on). So I still don't know how to turn S-oFF. I'm also not sure what the "P~~~~~ whatever" app he refers to is.
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Keep trying to get root with Kingroot. It will eventually work, but it takes time and patience. And Purity is the name of the app that Kingroot will install after it gains root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61920423&postcount=3652 - this is the s-off instruction right?
Kingroot is part of those instructions... do I need to root before using sunshine? And is sunshine what finally achieves the s-off?
Will kingroot work prior to achieving s-off? (seems like it would have to given the instructions in the link above.. given enough tries). My first attempt using kingroot said root wasn't available, but the link above suggests I may need to just keep trying / uninstall+reinstall / etc to get it to work.
Thanks again!
Ok... some progress!
After 4 tries, Kingroot finally did its thing and reports I'm rooted.
In the link to achieve S-off, the app Sunshine is mentioned. Just bought a sunshine license for $25... why not.
Or not.
Despite Kingroot saying its rooted and Sunshine initially saying it had gained root and that my phone had passed all the pre-tests, now that i've spent the $25 its saying its "Unable to gain root access to your device. You may need to gain "TEmpRoot" or "PermRoot" through some other means. For HTC devices, unlocking with HTCDev.comand rooting with a custom recovery may work."
Grr. Any ideas?
I have an HTCDev account but when I get to step 5 in the unlocking bootloader process, I haven't been able to get my command propt commands to work. See images below...
By re-rooting with Kingroot Sunshine did its thing... after it finished the app disappeared. When I do a Volume down+power, it does show my software status as "modified", so I guess I'm making progress.
So is now when I put the said 0P6BIMG.zip on the sd card and let the phone find it? And as specific as we can be as to which file this needs to be is appreciated... thanks
lol so I re-rooted (again) and re-downloaded sunishine (because, like i said, after it did its thing it deleted itself), and its confirmed I'm S-Off.
I'm downloading dottat's "DOTTAT_VZWM8_S_OFF_5.0.1_RUU.zip", which is about 1.6GB. This is what I put on the SDcard, rename 0P6BIMG.zip, and 'flash' that right?
Appreciate you bearing with me (though it seems like i'm in a closet talking to myself a bit, which is ok)
Make sure the BIMG.zip is in the root of your sd card (in no folder) then load hboot and it'll detect the .zip and flash from there. Yes.

Is it worth Rooting anymore?

1. I noticed exploits are being patched left and right.
2. Knox is easy to trip now.
3. There are no custom firmwares anymore for Samsung phones.
4. Samsung requests the removal of links on this board constantly.
5. Can't use Samsung pay with a knox tripped phone.
6. Downgrading is blocked in case you have an upgraded phone.
Is this what Samsung forums have come to now? Are there phones out there that you don't have to deal with Knox?
It seems people don't really care anymore about Samsung phones?
nafeasonto said:
1. I noticed exploits are being patched left and right.
2. Knox is easy to trip now.
3. There are no custom firmwares anymore for Samsung phones.
4. Samsung requests the removal of links on this board constantly.
5. Can't use Samsung pay with a knox tripped phone.
6. Downgrading is blocked in case you have an upgraded phone.
Is this what Samsung forums have come to now? Are there phones out there that you don't have to deal with Knox?
It seems people don't really care anymore about Samsung phones?
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Your question has been asked by many people on multiple forums. Samsung's flagship is great as is, however the software has a few bugs that bother everyone which is why we root. Samsung built knox so there products would appeal to corporate customers. That is why it exists. To say there are no custom firm wares is false. Just read the development forums. Root is not an absolute must, but it is getting harder as time goes on
Snowby123 said:
Root is not an absolute must, but it is getting harder as time goes on
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That doesn't make me hopeful.
nafeasonto said:
That doesn't make me hopeful.
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I obtained root just to prove to myself it can be done. It is not the most important thing In the world. That said, I do understand your perspective. I appreciate the root apps and custom ROMs, and each year root access I harder and harder. Even without root you can appreciate any android device
I stopped rooting just because my Barclay's bank app doesn't work on rooted phones and it's very convenient for me. Also stock android got a lot better and I like it as it is. Also you have theme engines build it now so you can customize your phone without rooting. All that said of course there is some exceptional cases that root is needed, like recently with the new S6 there is no option to choose 2G only network mode on stock rom and I don't know if there is a no root solution for it
So perhaps I am in a shrinking group of people that still needs, or rather appreciates, rooting.
I'm not sure what I can discuss here...
I am switching from my S5 to my new S6 (got it today!) and I need to use Titanium Backup Pro. I am restoring every app from the former to the latter and some of my games aren't... stored on the Google Play store. And I like root-requiring game alterers, unlocking my phone to be a hotspot, and simpler things like using Coolify, Root Booster and Root Explorer, among others.
Now I've tested my ability to transfer everything over from one device to another (my tablet), so I know it will work. I just keep reading more and more about KNOX (which I successfully avoided on my S5) and how it's unavoidable on the S6. How you can't rollback to an earlier version of Android (since I got my phone today, I'm assuming I have 5.1.1). I don't care about Samsung Pay. At all.
Is it advisable for me to root? If I have 5.1.1, CAN I? I read that PingPongRoot won't even WORK on 5.1.1! What am I to do? Or does no one care about rooting anymore? Is anyone devoted to resolving these issues or did everyone shrug and go, "Eh."?
hamstrman said:
So perhaps I am in a shrinking group of people that still needs, or rather appreciates, rooting.
I'm not sure what I can discuss here...
I am switching from my S5 to my new S6 (got it today!) and I need to use Titanium Backup Pro. I am restoring every app from the former to the latter and some of my games aren't... stored on the Google Play store. And I like root-requiring game alterers, unlocking my phone to be a hotspot, and simpler things like using Coolify, Root Booster and Root Explorer, among others.
Now I've tested my ability to transfer everything over from one device to another (my tablet), so I know it will work. I just keep reading more and more about KNOX (which I successfully avoided on my S5) and how it's unavoidable on the S6. How you can't rollback to an earlier version of Android (since I got my phone today, I'm assuming I have 5.1.1). I don't care about Samsung Pay. At all.
Is it advisable for me to root? If I have 5.1.1, CAN I? I read that PingPongRoot won't even WORK on 5.1.1! What am I to do? Or does no one care about rooting anymore? Is anyone devoted to resolving these issues or did everyone shrug and go, "Eh."?
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-_- 5.1.1 is perfectly/easily rootable just by flashing a custom kernel. And if you looked in the development forums you'd see there's plenty of devs that care as there is plenty of rom and kernel development going on.
hamstrman said:
So perhaps I am in a shrinking group of people that still needs, or rather appreciates, rooting.
I'm not sure what I can discuss here...
I am switching from my S5 to my new S6 (got it today!) and I need to use Titanium Backup Pro. I am restoring every app from the former to the latter and some of my games aren't... stored on the Google Play store. And I like root-requiring game alterers, unlocking my phone to be a hotspot, and simpler things like using Coolify, Root Booster and Root Explorer, among others.
Now I've tested my ability to transfer everything over from one device to another (my tablet), so I know it will work. I just keep reading more and more about KNOX (which I successfully avoided on my S5) and how it's unavoidable on the S6. How you can't rollback to an earlier version of Android (since I got my phone today, I'm assuming I have 5.1.1). I don't care about Samsung Pay. At all.
Is it advisable for me to root? If I have 5.1.1, CAN I? I read that PingPongRoot won't even WORK on 5.1.1! What am I to do? Or does no one care about rooting anymore? Is anyone devoted to resolving these issues or did everyone shrug and go, "Eh."?
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First thing I want to say is I appreciate root just as much as you.
Secondly, PingPongRoot is incompatible with 5.1.1, but depending on which variant you have,
you might still be able to root or roll back to 5.0.2
Which variant do you have?
Two years ago I would not have dreamed of using an unrooted Android phone, but Android has come a long way now. I have been using my old Note 3 and my current S6 unrooted and I'm not missing root at all. Most of the reasons why I would root are available now without root.
I also enjoy unprecendented stability on my phones. No more flashing untested amateur stuff that fixes one thing and breaks 10 other things. So the answer to your question for me is, no, it's not worth rooting anymore.
drock212 said:
-_- 5.1.1 is perfectly/easily rootable just by flashing a custom kernel. And if you looked in the development forums you'd see there's plenty of devs that care as there is plenty of rom and kernel development going on.
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I appreciate your response. I have been looking at the development forums. I've been reading all kinds of threads and I guess I just find it daunting. I'm kind of in my own head about how I'm going to do all this and it SEEMS there are so many restrictions on what will work with what (moreso than used to be), incompatibilities and laser-focused restrictions.
I typically feel confident about these things, but when I start reading the various threads, I feel like a n00b. I have to ask because, as you've seen here, I convinced myself out of the possibility of rooting.
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Snowby123 said:
First thing I want to say is I appreciate root just as much as you.
Secondly, PingPongRoot is incompatible with 5.1.1, but depending on which variant you have,
you might still be able to root or roll back to 5.0.2
Which variant do you have?
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Good to know. Possibly. Thing is, I haven't activated my phone yet (and I just got it 5 hours ago) because I know it will deactivate my old one and I'm still doing Titanium Backup to Dropbox. And I'm just incredibly terrified that I will lose the ability to do something that requires my old phone to be active. I don't actually know what that would be, but that's just me.
So, I don't know what variant I have yet. I will report back on that. I should be ready to activate by tomorrow morning.
And thanks for the response. Whether you think I'm an idiot or not (goes for you too drock212), I'm glad I'm not alone in figuring this out.
hamstrman said:
And thanks for the response. Whether you think I'm an idiot or not (goes for you too drock212), I'm glad I'm not alone in figuring this out.
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I do not like to ever use the word 'idiot' on XDA.
Newbie is the more appropriate word to use on these forums since 'idiot' is disrespectful.
Also, you sound more like the kinda guy who is not new to Android, just new to the Galaxy S6.
hamstrman said:
...
Now I've tested my ability to transfer everything over from one device to another (my tablet), so I know it will work. I just keep reading more and more about KNOX (which I successfully avoided on my S5) and how it's unavoidable on the S6. How you can't rollback to an earlier version of Android (since I got my phone today, I'm assuming I have 5.1.1). I don't care about Samsung Pay. At all.
...
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KNOX & many other apps can be made non-functioning with the Google Playstore app:
"Package Disabler Pro".
It is very easy to follow or change any of their suggested recommendations.
Settings can be saved or restorded to or from .xml files. Password protection is possible.
Worthwhile.
Snowby123 said:
First thing I want to say is I appreciate root just as much as you.
Secondly, PingPongRoot is incompatible with 5.1.1, but depending on which variant you have,
you might still be able to root or roll back to 5.0.2
Which variant do you have?
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Hey! I have version 5.0.2 on my phone! Fantastic. Now I just have to turn off auto updating.
Update: My phone is not supported by PingPongRoot... G920PVPU1AOC9.
M%#$&^@#r F*($&!er!
hamstrman said:
Hey! I have version 5.0.2 on my phone! Fantastic. Now I just have to turn off auto updating.
Update: My phone is not supported by PingPongRoot... G920PVPU1AOC9.
M%#$&^@#r F*($&!er!
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Did you try using odin to revert back to an earlier build?
Snowby123 said:
First thing I want to say is I appreciate root just as much as you.
Secondly, PingPongRoot is incompatible with 5.1.1, but depending on which variant you have,
you might still be able to root or roll back to 5.0.2
Which variant do you have?
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Snowby123 said:
Did you try using odin to revert back to an earlier build?
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No... I... feel really dumb right now. Rooting has always been so easy. My build just WAS fine.
I will go find ODIN and a tutorial on that.
Update: Not finding anything remotely like that on the Internet, but will search these forums.
Edit 2: Not finding anything. I assume I'm searching incorrect terms. And the PingPongRoot thread is closed because people couldn't stay on topic!
Also wondering if downgrading my build will trip KNOX, for which PPR is specifically made to avoid.
Found this on rooting the sprint s6
http://techbeasts.com/2015/04/27/install-twrp-recovery-root-sprint-galaxy-s6-g920p/
hamstrman said:
No... I... feel really dumb right now. Rooting has always been so easy. My build just WAS fine.
I will go find ODIN and a tutorial on that.
Update: Not finding anything remotely like that on the Internet, but will search these forums.
Edit 2: Not finding anything. I assume I'm searching incorrect terms. And the PingPongRoot thread is closed because people couldn't stay on topic!
Also wondering if downgrading my build will trip KNOX, for which PPR is specifically made to avoid.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/general/sm-g925f-s6-firmware-thread-t3078841
This is the thread to follow if you want to downgrade.
Restoring the stock firmware WILL NOT trip KNOX.
It is true that the PingPongRoot thread is closed, but you still can sideload the apk.
Snowby123 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/general/sm-g925f-s6-firmware-thread-t3078841
This is the thread to follow if you want to downgrade.
Restoring the stock firmware WILL NOT trip KNOX.
It is true that the PingPongRoot thread is closed, but you still can sideload the apk.
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This is great. I had found this thread, but didn't know if it applied.
And I already installed PPR, it just told me when I clicked "Get Root" that my build wasn't supported. Is there some close cousin of my build that would be "correct" to change to? Like the closest build name?
I have: G920PVPU1AOC9
On the list of approved builds, I see, for example, G920PVPU1AOCF.
hamstrman said:
This is great. I had found this thread, but didn't know if it applied.
And I already installed PPR, it just told me when I clicked "Get Root" that my build wasn't supported. Is there some close cousin of my build that would be "correct" to change to? Like the closest build name?
I have: G920PVPU1AOC9
On the list of approved builds, I see, for example, G920PVPU1AOCF.
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Since your build number is for the Sprint variant, downgrade to the earliest build there is for the sprint variant.
If it is listed on the PingPongRoot thread, install it. The one you just mentioned looks like the one to use. Try it.
An update: Worked beautifully. Laterally changed my build from G920PVPU1AOC9 to G920PVPU1AOCF - success!
Installed PingPongRoot - success!
And everything followed... Titanium Backup, Lucky Patcher, etc.
Last part is kind of important, though. Tried to install Modded Google Play Store. Failed. Did research and found out I need Xposed to install it.
So I install Xposed (I already had a backup). It tells me my framework is outdated. So I do some more digging and find out I need a special version of Xposed for Lollipop, which I get and install. There's a .zip that I have to flash via recovery in order to make Xposed work which would make Lucky Patcher work which would make the Store work.
Flashing the zip requires TWRP or CWM recovery. Can I install either of those without tripping KNOX? This is getting way too complicated. I mean, logically, I would think that since I have PingPongRoot already, that I'm good.

Verizon Galaxy S3 4.4.2 Rooted Custom Recovery Question

Looked through google, looked through threads, can find nothing whatsoever to help.
Have Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III Unlocked running Straight Talk VIA sim card. Everything works.. as a regular old phone with root. (rooted with Kingoroot - basically I googled "root galaxy s3" and followed those steps.. that much works fine, though it is not to be confused with the chinese king root. I tried the trick of swapping out king root for SU and, well.. yeah didnt work.)
Problem is I'm running 4.4.2 (the dreaded locked bootloader) and everything I try when it comes to installing custom recovery either doesn't work, bootloops the phone, or hard bricks it. v_v
so as someone who backs up their backups, (thank you OCD fairy), running around with a phone I can't backup puts me on edge, to say the least.
tried safestrap (says not secured. still says not secured after install. does nothing.)
tried various CWM and TWRP via apk installs (whatever that app is you install then tell it to install cwm) ..wouldn't install
Odin, depending on which version I install (e\ not which version of odin, which version of custom recovery), either gives me errors or hardbricks my device.
SO.. I'm looking for someone who has a Verizon Galaxy S III and who has a custom recovery on it to tell me how the devil they managed that one.
Cheers all!!
Drach0n said:
Looked through google, looked through threads, can find nothing whatsoever to help.
Have Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III Unlocked running Straight Talk VIA sim card. Everything works.. as a regular old phone with root. (rooted with Kingoroot - basically I googled "root galaxy s3" and followed those steps.. that much works fine, though it is not to be confused with the chinese king root. I tried the trick of swapping out king root for SU and, well.. yeah didnt work.)
Problem is I'm running 4.4.2 (the dreaded locked bootloader) and everything I try when it comes to installing custom recovery either doesn't work, bootloops the phone, or hard bricks it. v_v
so as someone who backs up their backups, (thank you OCD fairy), running around with a phone I can't backup puts me on edge, to say the least.
tried safestrap (says not secured. still says not secured after install. does nothing.)
tried various CWM and TWRP via apk installs (whatever that app is you install then tell it to install cwm) ..wouldn't install
Odin, depending on which version I install (e\ not which version of odin, which version of custom recovery), either gives me errors or hardbricks my device.
SO.. I'm looking for someone who has a Verizon Galaxy S III and who has a custom recovery on it to tell me how the devil they managed that one.
Cheers all!!
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A custom recovery can only be flashed on an unlocked bootloader. Trying to flash a custom recovery on a locked bootloader will result in a brick. The only available recovery on it is safestrap
Sent from my Nexus 5
ShapesBlue said:
A custom recovery can only be flashed on an unlocked bootloader. Trying to flash a custom recovery on a locked bootloader will result in a brick. The only available recovery on it is safestrap
Sent from my Nexus 5
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..I gathered that. I was basing my attempts off the threads I found where the OP "forgot" to mention which android OS he was using on his (or her) galaxy s3 and then omigawd installed custom recovery on it. Where nobody has yet been able to unlock the 4.3 and 4.4.2 bootloader for the galaxy s3 as yet (to my knowledge; if I'm wrong please correct me) this leaves me with safestrap, the custom recovery that doesn't touch the bootloader during install. I know this as well. Perhaps I should have clarified this, but I thought it was obvious to the folks at xda. *shrugs*
And the part where I said safestrap isn't working for one reason or another is where I was hoping to attract someone who knew how to help instead of someone who only knows how to make generic statements (+1) [e\ ftr, attempting to flash non-safestrap recoveries resulted in an error 4 times out of 5, not a brick.]
that said, I will ask again, if someone has 4.4.2 on their s3 as well as custom recovery, please come post here.
sadly, inb4 more +1ers
When you ask a question that's been asked and answered dozens of times before, you're going to get the same "generic statement" in response, because it's the right answer to your question. Your bootloader can't be unlocked, and therefore you can't install a custom recovery on your phone.
Jacquestrapp said:
When you ask a question that's been asked and answered dozens of times before, you're going to get the same "generic statement" in response, because it's the right answer to your question. Your bootloader can't be unlocked, and therefore you can't install a custom recovery on your phone.
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*sigh* another illiterate. Try reading before posting yeah? I *know* my bootloader cant be unlocked, and I know that a custom recovery /can/ be installed, or are you saying safestrap doesn't exist? look I'm asking for help here not drivel.
..rerolling..
Q: What did you have for breakfast today?
A1: last week, I had breakfast in Deleware!
A2: Last night's dinner was good!
...
xda: the community where post count means more than relevant answers.
*sigh*
looks like I'm going to have to figure out safestrap on my own. whether there is another method for installation besides via apk, why it failed to install, whether safestrap is the only custom recovery that works by not touching the bootloader, why it hardbricked my phone.. etc
guess I'll post the answers somewhere intelligent like Android Authority.
have fun with your +1s
now go die in a fire. cheers
Drach0n said:
Q: What did you have for breakfast today?
A1: last week, I had breakfast in Deleware!
A2: Last night's dinner was good!
...
xda: the community where post count means more than relevant answers.
*sigh*
looks like I'm going to have to figure out safestrap on my own. whether there is another method for installation besides via apk, why it failed to install, whether safestrap is the only custom recovery that works by not touching the bootloader, why it hardbricked my phone.. etc
guess I'll post the answers somewhere intelligent like Android Authority.
have fun with your +1s
now go die in a fire. cheers
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Honestly I answered your question. It's hard to talk about safestrap other than what I've learned about it. The other member was right, it gets tiring answering the same questions all the time and once in awhile people don't appreciate the answers they are given.
There are threads for safestrap as well as most of the options here on xda. And feel free to go to another forum, your posting questions in a dying forum for the VZW S3. There's not many people who are really that interested in the locked down version anymore. It's very sporadic as far as people and questions go. But to be rude about it just isn't needed.
It's not about post count at xda it's about helping the community. I've been around here long enough to know this. And if you feel someone isn't helpful there's something called a PM instead of calling them out here on the forums. I grow tired of people not being appreciative of anything when someone takes the time to do there best to explain something to someone else
Sent from my Nexus 5
running 4.4.2
PM sent. I might be able to help with that.

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