It looks like at least on some ROMs battery is drained faster when GPS is enabled (and no application is using it - at least GPS icon is not shown in notification bar) than when GPS is disabled.
Is this a bug or normal behavior?
If this is normal behavior, then why that happens and is there any way (other than disabling GPS when not using it) to turn this feature off?
DavisNT said:
It looks like at least on some ROMs battery is drained faster when GPS is enabled (and no application is using it - at least GPS icon is not shown in notification bar) than when GPS is disabled.
Is this a bug or normal behavior?
If this is normal behavior, then why that happens and is there any way (other than disabling GPS when not using it) to turn this feature off?
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Number 1 rule for saving battery: TURN OFF ANY FEATURE IF YOU DON'T PLAN ON USING IT.
Even if you are not using GPS software, the phone still feeds electricity to your GPS receiver if GPS is enabled. That's not a bug, its just the way things work.
yep it seems to waste battery whenever enabling wifi/bluetooth/gps and not using it
I have been using my N5 for a couple of weeks and I know its battery life isn't the greatest. I have watched some youtube videos for tips on better battery life, and here's what I have done.
Turn off auto brightness, and screen brightness is about 1/4 of the way
Turn off haptic feedback
Turn off vibration on keypress
Turn off sync for most Google services
Turn off NFC
Location service set to battery saving mode
But it seems like after all that's been done, the battery is still draining pretty fast. For example, I went out for dinner and drinks with friends and my phone is just sitting in my pocket the whole time not being used, 4 hours later, I have lost 30% battery. Coming from an htc one, it doesn't drain nearly as much. Is this abnormal or just about right for the N5, thoughts?
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I have been using my N5 for a couple of weeks and I know its battery life isn't the greatest. I have watched some youtube videos for tips on better battery life, and here's what I have done.
Turn off auto brightness, and screen brightness is about 1/4 of the way
Turn off haptic feedback
Turn off vibration on keypress
Turn off sync for most Google services
Turn off NFC
Location service set to battery saving mode
But it seems like after all that's been done, the battery is still draining pretty fast. For example, I went out for dinner and drinks with friends and my phone is just sitting in my pocket the whole time not being used, 4 hours later, I have lost 30% battery. Coming from an htc one, it doesn't drain nearly as much. Is this abnormal or just about right for the N5, thoughts?
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7.5%/hr is high for standby time. You can get it down to 1-2%/hr by using more of the battery-saving tips you'll find in the various threads on the subject.
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Check the wakelock with better battery stat
If you don't need GPS on all the time turn that off too saves quite a bit of battery even the battery saving mode isn't that battery friendly
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Infiniteloop7 said:
But it seems like after all that's been done, the battery is still draining pretty fast. For example, I went out for dinner and drinks with friends and my phone is just sitting in my pocket the whole time not being used, 4 hours later, I have lost 30% battery. Coming from an htc one, it doesn't drain nearly as much. Is this abnormal or just about right for the N5, thoughts?
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You really need to share your battery usage screen, and show what apps drained your battery. It is possible that you were had low signal strength, and so your phone kept trying to search for a signal and drained itself. Also, as dark_ente suggested, look at betterbatterystats results to see if you had wakelocks.
With no active use, that is very high drain - unless you were in a very low signal strength area, or had an app keeping your phone awake.
When I work from home, connected to WiFi, my phone drains about 3-4% in about 9 hours (assuming I don't actively use it. I use pushbullet to show me all notifications on my PC, so I don't have to turn my phone on at all)
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Turn off auto brightness, and screen brightness is about 1/4 of the way - I do the same (actually, I set it to the lowest possible level), because it is too bright
Turn off haptic feedback - I do the same, because it is annoying
Turn off vibration on keypress - I do the same, because it is annoying
Turn off sync for most Google services - I leave sync on
Turn off NFC - I leave it on
Location service set to battery saving mode - I do the same - but set up a tasker profile to enable GPS when I launch maps - Disabling GPS helped the most in my case
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You really need to share your battery usage screen, and show what apps drained your battery. It is possible that you were had low signal strength, and so your phone kept trying to search for a signal and drained itself. Also, as dark_ente suggested, look at betterbatterystats results to see if you had wakelocks.
With no active use, that is very high drain - unless you were in a very low signal strength area, or had an app keeping your phone awake.
When I work from home, connected to WiFi, my phone drains about 3-4% in about 9 hours (assuming I don't actively use it. I use pushbullet to show me all notifications on my PC, so I don't have to turn my phone on at all)
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When you say turning off GPS and only enable it while launching maps, do you mean turn off location completely? Does that affect other Google apps/services? Such as Google now
If all else fails, do a factory reset.
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I noticed from the past few days that my N5 seems to have abnormal battery usage pattern. There are days with mostly light use (text messaging, whatsapp messaging, some web browsing, minimal on screen time) I can go for 2 days without charging, and I am only losing 1% battery per hour when it's in stand by. However, they are times (see attachment) when I didn't use my phone for 11 hours, and the battery level is down from fully charged to 26%. Can anyone give me some ideas on what may be the culprit?
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If you don't need GPS on all the time turn that off too saves quite a bit of battery even the battery saving mode isn't that battery friendly
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battery saver mode is actually very battery friendly. i've done extensive testing...
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Infiniteloop7 said:
I noticed from the past few days that my N5 seems to have abnormal battery usage pattern. There are days with mostly light use (text messaging, whatsapp messaging, some web browsing, minimal on screen time) I can go for 2 days without charging, and I am only losing 1% battery per hour when it's in stand by. However, they are times (see attachment) when I didn't use my phone for 11 hours, and the battery level is down from fully charged to 26%. Can anyone give me some ideas on what may be the culprit?
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you need 'better battery stats' log. . . stock battery screen tells you almost nothing
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When you say turning off GPS and only enable it while launching maps, do you mean turn off location completely? Does that affect other Google apps/services? Such as Google now
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No. I keep location enabled all the time, but in battery saver mode - that way, google now, weather widgets etc can get my approximate location (using cell tower triangulation), but can't activate my GPS for accurate location fix.
When I use maps/navigation (which in my case is the only time when I need accurate GPS location fix), I change from battery saving location to the GPS type location fix, and when I'm done with maps/nav, I switch back to battery saving location.
If you turned location off completely, google now, and possibly other apps (like weather widgets for current location) won't work.
Infiniteloop7 said:
I noticed from the past few days that my N5 seems to have abnormal battery usage pattern. There are days with mostly light use (text messaging, whatsapp messaging, some web browsing, minimal on screen time) I can go for 2 days without charging, and I am only losing 1% battery per hour when it's in stand by. However, they are times (see attachment) when I didn't use my phone for 11 hours, and the battery level is down from fully charged to 26%. Can anyone give me some ideas on what may be the culprit?
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From your 2nd screen print, you can see that your phone was awake pretty often. As @Enddo wrote, betterbatterystats should help you figure out what is causing the wakelocks.
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battery saver mode is actually very battery friendly. i've done extensive testing...
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you need 'better battery stats' log. . . stock battery screen tells you almost nothing
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No. I keep location enabled all the time, but in battery saver mode - that way, google now, weather widgets etc can get my approximate location (using cell tower triangulation), but can't activate my GPS for accurate location fix.
When I use maps/navigation (which in my case is the only time when I need accurate GPS location fix), I change from battery saving location to the GPS type location fix, and when I'm done with maps/nav, I switch back to battery saving location.
If you turned location off completely, google now, and possibly other apps (like weather widgets for current location) won't work.
From your 2nd screen print, you can see that your phone was awake pretty often. As @Enddo wrote, betterbatterystats should help you figure out what is causing the wakelocks.
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I am still pretty new to Android and I don't know how to root my phone. I did check out betterbatterystats on google play, it says the app doesn't work on non-rooted Android phone running kitkat, that's why I haven't installed it yet. It seems that kitkat made some changes which prevent battery usage apps from working properly, wake lock detector also won't work on non-rooted phones running kitkat
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I am still pretty new to Android and I don't know how to root my phone. I did check out betterbatterystats on google play, it says the app doesn't work on non-rooted Android phone running kitkat, that's why I haven't installed it yet. It seems that kitkat made some changes which prevent battery usage apps from working properly, wake lock detector also won't work on non-rooted phones running kitkat
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Rooting is pretty easy. And it opens up a whole new world.
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I am still pretty new to Android and I don't know how to root my phone. I did check out betterbatterystats on google play, it says the app doesn't work on non-rooted Android phone running kitkat, that's why I haven't installed it yet. It seems that kitkat made some changes which prevent battery usage apps from working properly, wake lock detector also won't work on non-rooted phones running kitkat
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While betterbatterystats will work on kitkat (unrooted), it won't give you partial wakelock summary That requires root)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15869904&postcount=3 - see FAQ 1 and 3. You can download the kitkat compatible version from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
As PhilipTD wrote, rooting a N5 is pretty easy, but if you don't feel comfortable doing it, don't.
If you decide to root, follow the steps in first post at the link that PhilipTD provided.
Note that Step 1 (unlocking bootloader) will wipe out all your data.
Before you root, why not disable GPS (keep location active) and see if that helps? Also, how often do you reboot your phone?
is it possible to get tasker to automatically turn on GPS when when screen is on, and turn off GPS when the screen is off(or the device is locked)
i tried for about 2 hours yesterday and ended up giving up the most i could get it to do is just toggle the location settings
are you trying to duck NSA surveillance or increase battery life? because getting that working would accomplish neither.
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is it possible to get tasker to automatically turn on GPS when when screen is on, and turn off GPS when the screen is off(or the device is locked)
i tried for about 2 hours yesterday and ended up giving up
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You will need secure settings plugin to do that, but yes, it should be possible.
I have a profile that enables GPS (active) only when I launch maps, and disables GPS (switch to battery saving mode in 4.4) when I exit maps.
In my case, disabling active GPS (i.e.. keep it in battery saving mode) helped random wakelocks from location reporting etc, Maps (navigation) is the only app that I use that needs active GPS. I don't have any other app that absolutely needs to have GPS coordinates for me.
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are you trying to duck NSA surveillance or increase battery life? because getting that working would accomplish neither.
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im trying to decrease wakelocks at night while sleeping. location + google now keeps my phone up almost all night. i just want to automate this instead of having to do it manually
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You will need secure settings plugin to do that, but yes, it should be possible.
I have a profile that enables GPS (active) only when I launch maps, and disables GPS (switch to battery saving mode in 4.4) when I exit maps.
In my case, disabling active GPS (i.e.. keep it in battery saving mode) helped random wakelocks from location reporting etc, Maps (navigation) is the only app that I use that needs active GPS. I don't have any other app that absolutely needs to have GPS coordinates for me.
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battery saver mode + google now keeps my phone up all night with location pings. i need to disable location completely
Enddo said:
battery saver mode + google now keeps my phone up all night with location pings. i need to disable location completely
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If location is set to Battery saver mode, that should not cause battery life degradation. But if it is, then 'disabling GPS' is not what you want to do - you want to see how to disable location reporting entirely (exactly as what your updated title indicates).
I don't think secure settings has been updated to support that feature in 4.4 - but hopefully other forum members will have suggestions.
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If location is set to Battery saver mode, that should not cause battery life degradation. But if it is, then 'disabling GPS' is not what you want to do - you want to see how to disable location reporting entirely (exactly as what your updated title indicates).
I don't think secure settings has been updated to support that feature in 4.4 - but hopefully other forum members will have suggestions.
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i dont know what to tell you then. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2551846 shows tons of people with this issue
it doesn't drain battery while my phone is on and active. but when i lock the screen at night to sleep, my phone gets hardly any deep sleep mode. i took a shower yesterday and these two services woke my device up 96 and 44 times within a 20 minute span
i have already tried disabling location reporting and location history. this did not fix anything while my device was locked. it still had hundreds of wakeups at night
and i believe you're right. i dont think secure settings works with 4.4 either this is the issue i've been running into, i believe
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... believe you're right. i dont think secure settings works with 4.4...
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It does work, but you first have to install the alternative helper in settings. Then Location Services will be enabled and you can turn it on and off when you want.
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PhilipTD said:
It does work, but you first have to install the alternative helper in settings. Then Location Services will be enabled and you can turn it on and off when you want.
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im pretty sure i installed that. well, first i installed the helper, and then i installed it as a service(option at hte bottom) since i had root
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im pretty sure i installed that. well, first i installed the helper, and then i installed it as a service(option at hte bottom) since i had root
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Just make sure it's the alternative one.
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Hi
I've S10 plus exynos.
I've noticed a strange thing keeps happening today I made the power mode on optimized and adaptive battery on but these settings keep changing to be power saving mode and adaptive power mode off.
I tried reset settings but still have the same issue
Any idea?
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Usually this happens before the first week of usage is over. The software needs to read your usage patterns in order to get adaptive power saving to work correctly.
Adaptive battery saving changes your profile automatically, but it will set itself off if you change profile manually.
Anyone can tell how to enable deep sleep mode. AoD is disabled. But battery is not giving 7 hours even on mild usage
Wait for march update
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If you update it to the latest version, you will be fine.
I've not observed this problem with my phone, running ASCA - March security patch
Only time I get this is if I turn on adaptive power. First thing I turned off.
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customworx said:
Usually this happens before the first week of usage is over. The software needs to read your usage patterns in order to get adaptive power saving to work correctly.
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Absolutely right..Had before same issues but after apprx.10 days it s working correctly.
Ive got a SM-N770F/DS and I always have medium power saving mode on. I have also always had an issue with Google Maps not wanting to detect location after I turn the screen off. I assumed it was a google issue until I turned optimized power saving mode on today and Maps suddenly started reading my location and giving directions while the screen was off. Is it possible to disable the "prevent background location access" part of medium power saving mode? Long pressing my power saving settings doesnt give any options to do this, im thinking my only option is to root. Would rooting fix this? If so, does anyone know of some roms on here that would allow me to do this? I dont care about much else from the rom, I like the phone as is and this is the only issue I have with it
Do not toggled on any power management other than the power mode (optimized) and fast charging.
They screw up functionality and increase battery usage on my unrooted 10+ running on Pie.
In Developer options>standby apps all buckets should show as active otherwise power management is active. Android will manage apps well without any power management options turned on. Track down any remaining battery hogs on a per case basis and deal directly with them. Sometimes closing the window gets it done like with Brave. Others need to be dealt with by package disabler and/or Karma Firewall.
This may or may not help you.
Gmaps is crapware. Runs best on original factory load and is a parasitic drain wanting to constantly run in the backup from boot sucking up battery and bandwidth.
Unlike you my goal is to keep it from doing this
Also review Gmaps notification and other settings. It's a mess; buried settings galore.
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They screw up functionality and increase battery usage
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Android will manage apps well without any power management options turned on
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I feel like I have experienced the opposite. I felt like my battery was draining faster with optimized on today (2nd pic) compared to the past few days with medium power saving on (first pic). Obviously more testing needs to be done to see. Going off of the pics I lost about 50% each day, so optimized seems to be worse for battery life but the reduced screen on time makes up for it in this scenario