Android Apps On Depict Frame - General Questions and Answers

I purchased a Depict digital art frame last year. I received an email last week that the company is going out of business and closing their doors. The Depict Frame runs on a custom version of Android. Currently the frame can only be controlled by their app. I would love to be able to install other apps on this frame because the features provided in the Depict app are very limited. If anyone could help with this I would appreciate it.

I'm going to open mine up
Mine has stopped working completely now. I think their cloud infrastructure back end is turned off or no longer operating. I've tried contacting various people that used to be at the company with absolutely no success. Very disappointing that they didn't even think to publish some specs or open-source the software (if allowable by license).
Anyhow - I'm going to rip mine open this weekend and try to hack into it somehow and put a different distro on it.
Have you made any progress?
Anyone else tried opening one up?

Depict Frame
I have opened it. Now that they are out of business and we are left with the hardware I wish they would have made their software open source. I have been trying to see if I can drive the LCD with another computer (Raspberry Pi) or something more powerful. Looks like it is a proprietary interface. The LCD is a chinese LCD so if we can somehow figure out how to drive that LCD that would be quite useful.
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oneguyindc said:
I have opened it. Now that they are out of business and we are left with the hardware I wish they would have made their software open source. I have been trying to see if I can drive the LCD with another computer (Raspberry Pi) or something more powerful. Looks like it is a proprietary interface. The LCD is a chinese LCD so if we can somehow figure out how to drive that LCD that would be quite useful.
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There is a facebook group - Depict Users group

Depict guts
I opened mine. The control board drives the TCON using 8-lane v-by-one. I found a manufacturer on Alibaba that makes a 4K LCD driver board which also supports 8-lane v-by-one and hacked into in place, bypassing Depict's main control board. I was able to get it to display text and images from a Raspberry Pi, but the text looked mangled at high resolutions. I don't know yet whether the problem is in how I have HDMI configured on the Pi, or whether the LCD driver board is fundamentally incompatible with this BOE panel. Still exploring.

My frame quit displaying any uploaded art since yesterday. Anybody figure out how to get around this horrible situation.

My frame also quit displaying uploaded art. I'm interested in any information on being able to continue to use the frame (with my own art at the very least).
Also, there was mention of a Facebook group for Depict owners earlier in this thread, but I was unable to find that group.

Depict Frame Working
My frame quit working several days ago. I opened my app and went the set up frame procedure. It took two tries resetting the access code and several times entering my wifi information before the frame accepted everything. I had to reset my wifi router to get the app to accept my wifi information. The frame is now working and I have been able to upload my saved pictures from my iphone. Hope this works for others !

My Dipict Frame is working again after a reset...
Like other's in this thread, my Depict frame stopped working a few weeks back (a few weeks after they went out of business). Specifically, my frame stop going into sleep mode based on its schedule and was stuck on the last picture it displayed. Based on Solivita's June 5, 2019 post, I went again and reset my frame. To to this, I took a paper clip and inserted it into a hole that is just above the power button on the side of the frame. I held the paper clip down until the frame reset (about 10-15 seconds). The first time I tried to set it up using the app, it failed to connect. But I power cycled it (by unplugging it) and tried again it and it worked. It is now working better than ever!!!!!

Depict Frame
This is exactly what I want to do. Have you made any progress on this with the Raspberry Pi or any other computer.
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I opened mine. The control board drives the TCON using 8-lane v-by-one. I found a manufacturer on Alibaba that makes a 4K LCD driver board which also supports 8-lane v-by-one and hacked into in place, bypassing Depict's main control board. I was able to get it to display text and images from a Raspberry Pi, but the text looked mangled at high resolutions. I don't know yet whether the problem is in how I have HDMI configured on the Pi, or whether the LCD driver board is fundamentally incompatible with this BOE panel. Still exploring.
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iOS Update broke the App
As we all know, Depict has gone bankrupt and shut down the company. As Frame owners, we are now on our own. Here is my current situation: My Frame had been working fine and I was having no trouble showing art downloaded from the Art Institute of Chicago (great stuff) Yes, I was having some issues with the Frame's clock feature, and was forced to reset it a few times. But it was working fine. I use an Apple iPad Mini 2 as my controller. Recently, Apple sent out a new update to the iOS and I updated the iPad. BIG MISTAKE! Something in the Apple software has broken the Depict App. I can reset the Frame and go all the way through the setup until the Frame says "Ready for Art". But the same iPad Depict App that I just used to set it up from the Factory Reset now cannot see the Frame on the network. Yes, I have checked and double checked that they are on the same network. The Apple iOS update broke the Depict App so that now I have a useless Frame in perfect condition. I'm hoping that, at some point, whoever has access to the software for the App will discover this and fix it. That seems to be my only hope.

Any luck?
Months ago I reverse engineered the protocol for pushing images to the frame over the local network. (To enable slideshows of my own photos, and as a hedge against them going out of business.) Due to a series of unfortunate events, this morning my frame updated itself and it looks like they removed that functionality somewhere along the way (probably when they added slideshows). The cloud services appear to still be functional for slideshows of my uploaded pics, but who knows for how long.
So, did anybody have luck with the Pi? What was that display controller? At this point I’m likely to crack open my frame to see what I can salvage; any learnings from people who’ve been there would be appreciated!

They pushed a final firmware when they announced their closure. I don't know if anyone noticed, but it now runs the fan on high, continually. This happened to both of my frames. The fans continue to run even when in sleep mode, which is pretty annoying. As of right now, I'm still using the app to display artwork and cloud photos, however, I'm considering opening one of them up and disabling the fan. Ultimately, I'd love to get a pi into this thing and run it from there. I'm down to help put a tutorial together if anyone figures it out in a logical way.

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numb3rs said:
They pushed a final firmware when they announced their closure. I don't know if anyone noticed, but it now runs the fan on high, continually. This happened to both of my frames. The fans continue to run even when in sleep mode, which is pretty annoying. As of right now, I'm still using the app to display artwork and cloud photos, however, I'm considering opening one of them up and disabling the fan. Ultimately, I'd love to get a pi into this thing and run it from there. I'm down to help put a tutorial together if anyone figures it out in a logical way.
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YES! this crushed me. The app works I'm fine with the final functionality, but the fan noise from the final firmware update made the same noise issue for me. I was thinking of blocking some/most of the air holes...
ALSO....I just discovered another issue I don't know how to get around. I recently upgraded iPhones and my new phone tried to download all my apps...well, the Depict app is apparently not on the App Store anymore! so my iPhone 11 can not download it! ugh... thoughts?

depict_owner said:
I opened mine. The control board drives the TCON using 8-lane v-by-one. I found a manufacturer on Alibaba that makes a 4K LCD driver board which also supports 8-lane v-by-one and hacked into in place, bypassing Depict's main control board. I was able to get it to display text and images from a Raspberry Pi, but the text looked mangled at high resolutions. I don't know yet whether the problem is in how I have HDMI configured on the Pi, or whether the LCD driver board is fundamentally incompatible with this BOE panel. Still exploring.
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Really interested in this. Hoping someone will have a step by step DIY for this. Please keep us in loop on how this went for you.

austinsprint said:
YES! this crushed me. The app works I'm fine with the final functionality, but the fan noise from the final firmware update made the same noise issue for me. I was thinking of blocking some/most of the air holes...
ALSO....I just discovered another issue I don't know how to get around. I recently upgraded iPhones and my new phone tried to download all my apps...well, the Depict app is apparently not on the App Store anymore! so my iPhone 11 can not download it! ugh... thoughts?
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I had the same issue - I used the iMazing App to extract the Depict App from the backup and then restored it on my new iPhone. Was a pain but finally I am back up again.
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ExposureSetLong said:
Really interested in this. Hoping someone will have a step by step DIY for this. Please keep us in loop on how this went for you.
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Can someone post a link to the video controller that can control the display directly?

oneguyindc said:
I had the same issue - I used the iMazing App to extract the Depict App from the backup and then restored it on my new iPhone. Was a pain but finally I am back up again.
I lost the app when I updated my phone so I can't control the frame anymore. Would there be any way you could post the app files somewhere? I have the iMazing App so I could upload them to my phone and regain control of the frame.
Many thanks
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spawnyb said:
oneguyindc said:
I had the same issue - I used the iMazing App to extract the Depict App from the backup and then restored it on my new iPhone. Was a pain but finally I am back up again.
I lost the app when I updated my phone so I can't control the frame anymore. Would there be any way you could post the app files somewhere? I have the iMazing App so I could upload them to my phone and regain control of the frame.
Many thanks
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Like you, I updated my phone and encountered this issue. There is a placeholder for the app on my new phone, but its not the actual app. I did backup and transfer purchases to iTunes on my mac when I switched iPhones. I found a copy of the .ipa app file for the depict app in the "mobile applications" folder inside the "iTunes media" folder, which is under the "music" folder. However, it indicates that the app is version 2.0.1 dated 7/19/17. Based on the date, I know this is not the latest version of the app. In fact, when I tried to copy the app to my iPhone, it said there was a newer version on the device (probably the place holder). Based on some internet research (see https://appadvice.com/app/depict-digital-art/908226911), I believe the lastest version of the app was version 3.0.0 updated on April 6, 2019. Can anyone that is the latest version of the depict app?
Also, for those that were able to extract the app from their backup, were you able to get this (or a later) version of the app? If so, was it actually in the backup, or was it somewhere else?
Lastly, if anyone has the latest version of the .ipa file, I would be very interested in getting it.
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I have created an .ipa file (using iMazing) for version 3.0.0 (the final update) of the Depict app. I was able to then use that .ipa file to install the Depict app on another iPhone (using iMazing).

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I have created an .ipa file (using iMazing) for version 3.0.0 (the final update) of the Depict app. I was able to then use that .ipa file to install the Depict app on another iPhone (using iMazing).
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Would it be possible to share this file via dropbox/google drive or email?
Many thanks

spawnyb said:
Would it be possible to share this file via dropbox/google drive or email?
Many thanks
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Absolutely. I'm a newbie on this forum and don't see any way to PM you. Thoughts? Maybe you could create a burner/disposable email address that you could reveal to me in this thread and I can send the (105MB) .ipa file there. Once you get it, you can delete the email address as it may be a SPAM-magnet after appearing in this thread.

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[Q] "Buy" button missing from Zune

I don't know if I'm the only one experiencing this.
But, the "buy" button seems to be missing from the app marketplace within Zune software
I can still purchase videos and musics from it. But not apps.
I can still buy apps from the phone directly, but not being able to use Zune software to browse through the market is rather annoying.
Any solutions?
Am I the only person with this problem right now?
Are they just doing some maintenance and will it come back soon?
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It just came back.
I saw this as well and I think it's just a maintenance thing. Because the phone marketplace is acting wonky too.
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I don't know if I'm the only one experiencing this.
But, the "buy" button seems to be missing from the app marketplace within Zune software
I can still purchase videos and musics from it. But not apps.
I can still buy apps from the phone directly, but not being able to use Zune software to browse through the market is rather annoying.
Any solutions?
Am I the only person with this problem right now?
Are they just doing some maintenance and will it come back soon?
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It just came back.
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I've been having this issue for months. It's a pain because I want to get my apps from Zune so I can quickly reinstall if need be. Don't know a cause.
did you resize the screen? if its in a small size window , the buy button wont be showing , try resizing to a larger screen and it will re appear!
Missing 'Buy' button is a programming error...
... as far as I am concerned. There are far too many folks using netbooks and sub-notebooks that do not use a 'something' by 640 or 'something' by 800 as a minimum display size. The Toshiba NB series computers use for their own display a 1024 x 600. Odd size, but very functional for those folks that prefer something smaller and lighter in their briefcases. It is handy that most can attach an external display of more common size to get around this issue.
I and my crew are just such people. I do not limit my folks from modifying their equipment or adding what they like. In fact, all of our sub-notebooks have been upgraded to the 500Gb hybrid drives and W7 Ultimate with Enterprise Office. They work GREAT!! (a little Tony The Tiger imitation there)
So, any time we find a program that fails to function on our screens, it's obviously a failure on the part of the programmers to consider the true variety of users they are serving. Saddly, most 'commercial' programmers today think of only larger drives, more power, and more speed. 'Elegant' code is a thing of the past I fear.
My only hope is that whoever it was that wrote the 'buy' button has the wherewithall to realize the error of their way and either unlock its position so it can float as needed, or go ahead and let the screen overflow and give us a slider so we can make the choice to look further down the page if need be. You don't really have to jam everything into one screen, even though from time to time that can be nice. Figure it out, programmer. It's your job.

BUG: Skype front cam sideways & mirrored

Hi all,
When I place a video call to my friend using the front facing camera, my friend sees my video as sideways and mirrored. I see my local preview as sideways and NOT mirrored. This problem exists no matter how I rotate the phone.
I should see my local preview as mirrored (like desktop version) and my friend should see it as NOT mirrored. Both of us, of course, should not see the video as sideways.
I'm surprised that nobody is talking about this issue. I don't know when the bug crept in, because I don't use Skype on the phone that often due to what seems like higher battery drain when Skype is running. I did some reading online about the issue, and it looks like the HTC EVO 4G suffers from the same problem, which means a LOT of people can't properly Skype again!
I did try messing with the enable/disable rotation setting in both the Skype app as well as in Android settings. I also tried rolling back to a previous build that worked properly, but as some have mentioned, rolling back to a known good build (that supported front cam) doesn't fix the problem.
I don't really think there is an easy fix for this, but I thought maybe if we discuss it here a bit, well..... ya never know.
gruuvin said:
Hi all,
When I place a video call to my friend using the front facing camera, my friend sees my video as sideways and mirrored. I see my local preview as sideways and NOT mirrored. This problem exists no matter how I rotate the phone.
I should see my local preview as mirrored (like desktop version) and my friend should see it as NOT mirrored. Both of us, of course, should not see the video as sideways.
I'm surprised that nobody is talking about this issue. I don't know when the bug crept in, because I don't use Skype on the phone that often due to what seems like higher battery drain when Skype is running. I did some reading online about the issue, and it looks like the HTC EVO 4G suffers from the same problem, which means a LOT of people can't properly Skype again!
I did try messing with the enable/disable rotation setting in both the Skype app as well as in Android settings. I also tried rolling back to a previous build that worked properly, but as some have mentioned, rolling back to a known good build (that supported front cam) doesn't fix the problem.
I don't really think there is an easy fix for this, but I thought maybe if we discuss it here a bit, well..... ya never know.
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You need to roll back to a old version of Skype. The new one is crap.
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Does anybody know what is the latest version of Skype that doesn't exhibit this problem?
gruuvin said:
Does anybody know what is the latest version of Skype that doesn't exhibit this problem?
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Here you go. I posted it in virtuous affinity. It only broadcasts in landscape.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20097672
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I had a similar issue with google+ video chat. My video used to come sideways to others. This was happening in GB.
I found that version 2.1.0.46 allows use of the front facing camera and seems to orient the image properly, however there is a special Version 11 build out there that I found, and I don't know who to give credit for it, that adds an extra settings menu called Advanced Settings, which gives ALL SORTS OF AWESOME CONTROL over image orientation and resolution, among many other things.
The filename I found is Skype_2.1.0.46_v11.apk, and I found it at one of those websites that is 4 sharing files (hint). Again, I don't know who to give credit to for this build, but the advanced menu is SUPERB, and I hope to see more builds like this one!!!
gruuvin said:
I found that version 2.1.0.46 allows use of the front facing camera and seems to orient the image properly, however there is a special Version 11 build out there that I found, and I don't know who to give credit for it, that adds an extra settings menu called Advanced Settings, which gives ALL SORTS OF AWESOME CONTROL over image orientation and resolution, among many other things.
The filename I found is Skype_2.1.0.46_v11.apk, and I found it at one of those websites that is 4 sharing files (hint). Again, I don't know who to give credit to for this build, but the advanced menu is SUPERB, and I hope to see more builds like this one!!!
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Dude, thanks for that find. Where have I been...lol! That version is sick! Love the advanced option.
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sckboy78 said:
...That version is sick! Love the advanced option...
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No Doubt!! Settings don't get much more advanced than that!!
New version of skype came out today, and it's worse than before.
Landscape mode only now (no setting for auto-rotation). New bugs with front-facing cam: both local and remote view is mirrored, local preview is upright but stretched, remote view is sideways.
Skype makes a couple minor improvements while breaking the most important functions. Sheesh! Do they test this stuff before release?
Yeah, I dont think they test any of their crap. I dont understand why we are not on the supported list. We were on of the first ffc phones out.
gruuvin said:
I found that version 2.1.0.46 allows use of the front facing camera and seems to orient the image properly, however there is a special Version 11 build out there that I found, and I don't know who to give credit for it, that adds an extra settings menu called Advanced Settings, which gives ALL SORTS OF AWESOME CONTROL over image orientation and resolution, among many other things.
The filename I found is Skype_2.1.0.46_v11.apk, and I found it at one of those websites that is 4 sharing files (hint). Again, I don't know who to give credit to for this build, but the advanced menu is SUPERB, and I hope to see more builds like this one!!!
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i can't get this version of the app to sign in. any clues?
OMG, man.. You ROCK! Thanks a TON for this.
gruuvin said:
I found that version 2.1.0.46 allows use of the front facing camera and seems to orient the image properly, however there is a special Version 11 build out there that I found, and I don't know who to give credit for it, that adds an extra settings menu called Advanced Settings, which gives ALL SORTS OF AWESOME CONTROL over image orientation and resolution, among many other things.
The filename I found is Skype_2.1.0.46_v11.apk, and I found it at one of those websites that is 4 sharing files (hint). Again, I don't know who to give credit to for this build, but the advanced menu is SUPERB, and I hope to see more builds like this one!!!
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GTA III works flaswlessy on Tablet

All you have to do is purchase on phone and sideload it, it will let you download data directly from tablet, at 1mb per second, it took about 7 mins for the whole process, 400mb download and data install. Go buy now, best 5 bucks ever spent.
Ps. I bought using my evo 3d, which also runs the game perfectly.
Edit: before you start asking, how to sideload it:
Dropbox, gmail, titanium backup, blue-tooth, etc. It also verifys market, so make sure you buy it.
excellent news, I did download the app, but got error parsing package message. Also says incompatible with my p6200, lets hope for the best for us 3g guys.
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excellent news, I did download the app, but got error parsing package message. Also says incompatible with my p6200, lets hope for the best for us 3g guys.
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Try downloading with phone, then sideload it. It should work since it works for dell streak, even though it is android 2.3, it is a 7 inch tablet. It worked on my SGT7+ wifi, it should work on Tmobile. Just make sure you purchase it.
Downloaded but seeing quite a bit of lagg. Replacing user data files with GSII files now hoping that they will fix it
Which version do you have? Wifi or 3g? Also did you just sideload apk, and download data from tab, or copy both. Mine has no lag whatsoever with the data download directly to tab. I also have no lag with the data downloaded from my evo 3d. They both work perfectly. I also recommend using the analog steering and driving controls.
I sideloaded the .apk and let it download, had lag, so I replaced the data files with ones for the GSII from a site I found. No lagg now, just had to reset the controls as it aligned them for the S2's resolution. I don't have another Android device so I had to go the less legal route to get the APK, but I have bought the game on the iPad so I don't feel bad about it. Thumbs down to Rockstar for not having the compatibility in order
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I sideloaded the .apk and let it download, had lag, so I replaced the data files with ones for the GSII from a site I found. No lagg now, just had to reset the controls as it aligned them for the S2's resolution. I don't have another Android device so I had to go the less legal route to get the APK, but I have bought the game on the iPad so I don't feel bad about it. Thumbs down to Rockstar for not having the compatibility in order
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Come one bro, dont include those details, as it can get you booted.
Also what type of lag were you referring to?
FPS issues in the entire game, basically. Driving around was very laggy and basically unplayable
The game is great and works better on 7 inches than the 10 inch iPad imho... just hope rockstar gets a grip and fixes compatibility settings. As a new Android user I can't even begin to express how utterly idiotic this issue with erroneous compatibility blocks is
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FPS issues in the entire game, basically. Driving around was very laggy and basically unplayable
The game is great and works better on 7 inches than the 10 inch iPad imho... just hope rockstar gets a grip and fixes compatibility settings. As a new Android user I can't even begin to express how utterly idiotic this issue with erroneous compatibility blocks is
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Oh ok, mine still seems very responsive, Ill try other data file from other phones i have. Ill post results later. Yup, thats the problem with android fragmentation, but either way any android phone beats an iphone.
No...it doesn't. Believing that is just pure bias as there is no, and probably never will be, an OS that beats the other on everything. That's why I have one of each.
Youre still very new to this community, give it some time, to the infite modifications and freedom android gives you.
Customizing something all the way to Mars is nice, but still doesn't make up for lack of apps. I've been using the iPad in ways that physically aren't possible on Android because of the lack of certain apps and types of apps
give me an example and Ill try to tell which apps are available. I have over 400 apps installed. I go thru the apple catalog and I only see nonsense apps, or social apps, how many of those do you need. But its true there are more apps, but almost all are already in android. Maybe not the market but getjar, amazon market, appbrain and more.
Ok, here's a challenge for you, and if you do manage to find an app, you will be my hero:
One of my most used apps on the iPad is a certain type of note taking app. I say a certain type rather than a specific app as there are quite literally dozens of these available on iOS now. This type of app will let me import documents - minimum requirement is PDF, but more types is better - and write on top of them. So far Android has alternative. Then you get to the most important feature, magnification mode. The way this works in all of said dozen apps is that you have a window at the bottom of the screen that shows a small portion of the screen magnified. This allows you to write big letters and have it be shrunk down. These boxes are resizable and can be set for various zoom levels. They also have auto-advance, meaning that when you get to the end of the box it automatically moves it so you just write from the beginning again. This way you can write sentence upon sentence just as you would on paper, and just as accurately, even with a normal capacitive stylus. Other features that are often in these apps include the ability to insert images, machine text, web clips, audio recordings etc. You will also need to have the ability to export PDF. There are apps on android that can annotate PDF, but not at that level. All semester I've been using the iPad and nothing but the iPad both in lectures and outside, scanning paper documents using Scanner Pro and an external camera, annotating them (this is why just text editing is useless - I need to be able to have 100% control over size, placement, angle etc of the text on a page, underline and make arrows and drawings all over the place, not just write some text down) and storing them for reading. Just had an exam with 900 pages worth of curriculum and notes, all read on the iPad, and created on the iPad to begin with in the case of notes.
That kind of app in particular is crucial, and it has to be able to do exactly what I mention here, no "almost" with missing the magnification mode etc. They even provided all the lecturers with iPads this fall, and they've been using the same types of apps connected to projectors via VGA (try finding a VGA adapter for the galaxy tab, btw ).
This is just the ultimate example though, as it's not only the type of app I've used the most, but it's an app that is 100% productivity. No widgets, games or anything like that - it's a productivity issue, and an issue for Android's usability in settings outside of people who like to watch videos and play with ADWlauncher (which also includes me in my spare time, hence why I have an Android tablet).
Other examples off the top of my head: Splashtop's secondary product, xDisplay. It doesnt exist on Android (yet), and it's an example of an app where I don't care if there are "similar products" - it's the system I'm invested in and missing apps from major services like that is an issue. I could also bring up apps that have some sort of equivalent, but far from anything that works as good. Goodreader on the iPad -> ezPDF on Android, much less powerful app. Scanner Pro -> CamScanner, same thing, and they even broke 7.0 plus compatibility in the last update. There's no direct access app for the educational system my school uses, Classfronter, which isn't really an issue due to browser access but still an issue as it's slower. No good alternative to Reeder either, not that I've found anyways.
Education in itself is an interesting field. There are so many apps that make the iPad a powerful tool for both teachers and students on iOS. How about the ability to annotate documents wirelessly using Syncpad, an app that streams the image on screen to any HTML5 browser that's connected to the internet (not just local wifi)? Used that one a lot. Replaynote, letting you do notes and commentary and have it automatically turned into a video that you can send off to help people. Dictionary apps; when you study ENglish like I do, "a dictionary" isn't enough. You need as many as possible. That's iOS, not android.
Enough productivity. Fun apps. BBE's app has brought a music enhancement technology, that so far has only been licensed to Cowon for portable use, to iOS. There's no comparison to EQs in apps like Poweramp. Flipboard, awesome RSS reader that I use instead of Reeder when I want to relax, not read feeds for work. Tried Pulse, not the same, or even close. Neither is Currents. Zinio is luckily on both OSes though there are several magazines that are only available through Newsstand. Connecting the iPad to a synthesizer via USB and playing around with it on an amateur level is always fun.
Enough examples.
I love my 7.0 Plus. I love how personal the homescreen is after tweaking it, Google Talk on it is awesome, it's the device I reach for to check email in the morning, I love using a Wiimote for games, i use it as a mouse and keyboard for my PC in bed, remote control utorrent, browse the web, as a flashlight at night (LOVE that), video support makes me weep tears of joy, read books that aren't scanned A4 documents (and hence possible to reformat for 7 inches) etc. It's a great device, which is why I have it. However it isn't perfect. There's plenty of room for both OSes in my life, for the exact reason that neither is perfect.
Repligo reader for first, lets you write on top of pdf files (shapes, text,highlight, selections,w/e), I use it in class alot, but also lean to quick office since I just use camera to copy what i dont feel like typing.
Currents instead of pulse, much better. Also with repligo everything should be capable to be done, what ios app are you refering to which can do all that.
splashtop is on android also.
I think I answered what you needed, to long to read over again, while trying to study for nueuro final.
How did you get the GTA apk to your Tab? I tried AppInstaller, but I get an "access denied" error when I try to export it?
*edit* Nevermind. I was able to get the apk using Root Explorer. Can't wait to fire it up!
theundeadelvis said:
How did you get the GTA apk to your Tab? I tried AppInstaller, but I get an "access denied" error when I try to export it?
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you need root, and you can use root explorer to copy, to sd card. Make sure you click on r/w to be able to write and copy.

No Movie Studio Vid Editor on my GT6210 (US version)??

Hello,
Has anyone found a good alternative to Movie Studio? I've been using it on my Iconia A500 (10in. screen) and find it worth having. So other than the smaller screen, is there an oficial reason why we 7.0Plus owners didn't get this "standard" app.... or did everyone but me get it?
I've just downloaded a couple .apk's posted here to try to side load the app, but I guess I'm wondering if my GT6210 should have come with it in the first place.
Any help is appreciated! Thanks!
tazm0n said:
Hello,
Has anyone found a good alternative to Movie Studio? I've been using it on my Iconia A500 (10in. screen) and find it worth having. So other than the smaller screen, is there an oficial reason why we 7.0Plus owners didn't get this "standard" app.... or did everyone but me get it?
I've just downloaded a couple .apk's posted here to try to side load the app, but I guess I'm wondering if my GT6210 should have come with it in the first place.
Any help is appreciated! Thanks!
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Don't worry I'm on the same boat as you...have original tab my 7.0 Plus is on the way as we speak. Movie Studio is a huge improvement that I loved in the other Honeycomb tabs. I'll be sure to update you on if mine came with it. In the meantime, were you able to install a Movie Studio apk you've gotten your hands on?
jkwright8520 said:
Don't worry I'm on the same boat as you...have original tab my 7.0 Plus is on the way as we speak. Movie Studio is a huge improvement that I loved in the other Honeycomb tabs. I'll be sure to update you on if mine came with it. In the meantime, were you able to install a Movie Studio apk you've gotten your hands on?
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Yes , I was able to install the "deodex" version from this thread http:// forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=990465&page=2 - look for the file in post #12. But it didn't quite work for me. The UI doesn't adjust for the smaller screen (though the lower screen resolution is most likely the issue), so the video playback window blocks the top timeline and half of each control on either side. This made it basically unusable for me- the only good news is the app is otherwise working --clips imported, drag and scrubbing worked, imported clips played in that oversized preview window- without crashing. So if the UI could be tuned with a little hack-fu......
Anyway, hope this helps ya in some way. Please let me know if you find a solution. Thanks!
I just installed this app -AndroMedia https://market.android.com/details?id=com.techcatmobile.andromedia&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS50ZWNoY2F0bW9iaWxlLmFuZHJvbWVkaWEiXQ.. and so far I like what I see! It's free and looks like it can do the job. I've only done a quick test, but this may even be better than Movie Studio - though it has a small add at the bottom of the screen and the UI lacks Movie Studios modern look, but in some ways this one is more intuitive.
Worth checking out for sure!
tazm0n said:
Yes , I was able to install the "deodex" version from this thread http:// forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=990465&page=2 - look for the file in post #12. But it didn't quite work for me. The UI doesn't adjust for the smaller screen (though the lower screen resolution is most likely the issue), so the video playback window blocks the top timeline and half of each control on either side. This made it basically unusable for me- the only good news is the app is otherwise working --clips imported, drag and scrubbing worked, imported clips played in that oversized preview window- without crashing. So if the UI could be tuned with a little hack-fu......
Anyway, hope this helps ya in some way. Please let me know if you find a solution. Thanks!
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Well I'm not sure if you want to install another app to do this, but there are multiple apps which allow you to "adjust" the resolution of your screen which should allow you to view the complete app. I know I saw a nice looking app for this purpose but unfortunately cannot remember it off the top of my head....I've also tried AndroMedia on my original tab which I have until my new tab comes tomorrow but it just FCs but am happy to try it again with the new dual-core! Hopefully we can get this figured out...just one of those apps I reallllly want!!
jkwright8520 said:
Well I'm not sure if you want to install another app to do this, but there are multiple apps which allow you to "adjust" the resolution of your screen which should allow you to view the complete app. I know I saw a nice looking app for this purpose but unfortunately cannot remember it off the top of my head....I've also tried AndroMedia on my original tab which I have until my new tab comes tomorrow but it just FCs but am happy to try it again with the new dual-core! Hopefully we can get this figured out...just one of those apps I reallllly want!!
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There are apps that will adjust my screen rez? I'm guessing they must simulate the different resolution, or are they tweaks/hacks? I've heard of the tweaks that change the dpi or pixel density, but none that change screen rez. I'd be most appreciative if you can recommend any reliable ones.
AndroMedia works fine on my GTab 7.0+- no FC's ... yet. Maybe by the time we get this video editor app figured out, Samsung will release a version that works with the smaller tabs, lol. I'm amazed at the lack of any real alternatives to Movie Studio.... isn't anyone using Android devices to shoot video? Or are they not doing anything more complex than 1 take shots...? Not to rub anyones nose in it, but check out what Avid just released for the iPad- http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/avid-studio/id491113378?mt=8 better than iMovie and will export working projects to Avid express! I just started working with it (I need to use iOS and Android for work) and have to say it's pretty amazing. Come on 'droid!
Anyway, thanks again for your input on this issue!

Microsoft surface experience?

Hello guys. For those who have used the Microsoft surface, can you share your experience? I am just curious about its speed, performance, and how user friendly it is
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I love mine. I find the interface refreshing and unique, the people app lets me do way more with social media than I have been able to do in the past. Typing on the touch cover is still a bit of a challenge but they are saying it takes a few days to get it done properly. Speed wise, there are no issues. Mine is snappy and responsive. Battery life is amazing. I can use it all day 6am until 7pm and still only be down to around 30-40% battery remaining. There is a lack of apps but nothing that I can't wait out. I expected the ecosystem will take a bit to get going and I'm willing to wait. I sold my ipad with retina and honestly don't miss it at all.
I really love mine the more I use it. I'm typing this on the touchcover and although I make a lot of mistakes I seem to be getting better at it. That said, I do have some issues but nothing that major (yet!). Battery life seems to be much less than the ipad, people report 8-10 hours, I only get like 4-7. The apps are a disappointment, but I plan to use this device productively soo all I really need is dropbox. The device seems to slow down when editing 2 page documents in word. I tried to make a brochure on here and dragging pictures around was a nightmare. I did type a paper onhere and while it took longer then on a regular keyboard it wasn't that bad.
IE 10 for metro is complete trash. Can't even load XDA so I find myself always forced to use the desktop version. If you buy one, I suggest the model higher than 32gb as we really only get lke 14 gb because of the os taking up so much room.
The touchcover gets very dirty it seems. I'm not suire if I can clean it without ruining it. I sneeze on it before and it has a nasty stain =/.
The device itself is very prone to scratches, I tend to try to plug the thing into charge while its dark and that damn connector is such a pita that I always scratch the bezel.
I love the keyboard gestures (which I know can be used on any computer). The UI is very fast, there's a crap ton of gestures to learn. Yet, there are some gripes. Closing an app takes a crazy amount of time. You have to drag all theway from the top of the screen to the bottom, unnecessary.
Overall, I love it and I plan on keeping it. I still have my ipad and my nexus 7 but this really helps me get stuff done. The fact I can plug in almost any usb device and hve it work is amazing. You can even charge cellphones and stuff with the USB. I would recommend getting the surface IF you realize you can't run anything that's not in the store. No browser addons, no exe fils, nothing. Sometime that makes me wish I got the pro, but this device is really enough. Get past the quirkiness of metro + desktop and it's a beast.
Sorry for the typos. This was typed on the touch cover while lying down in bed.
*EDIT* The messenger app sucks realy badly too. You add someone as a friend (which can't be done in the app you have to go to a website) then you can't ever send them a message cause it says "Name unavailable" but they can send you messages. Its a one way form of communication.
*Edit2* Another clunky part. There are no jpg thumbail previews in the desktop. And when you want to open an image it has to open a program in metro
brandonjuraimi said:
Hello guys. For those who have used the Microsoft surface, can you share your experience? I am just curious about its speed, performance, and how user friendly it is
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I love the surface responsiveness and the new UI. But still there is still miles to go to get this perfect.
1. After being ON for more than 3 days, clicking on Email opened up weather, can't reach the email by clicking on any of the tiles. Same with IE. I had to reboot.
2. The auto rotate stopped working suddenly. I had to reboot to get it working again.
3. The email Client is awful. Need a better email app. It can't even match 10% of other email client's functionality. (No multi select, too much delay when navigating emails in the list, no option to Archive vs Delete, Moving to folders isn't as easy,
4. There is no Cisco VPN client. If your work requires non standard Cisco VPN connectivity, stay away.
5. Enterprise Distribution of apps isn't clear yet. We shouldn't have to have enterprise apps published to Microsoft Store every time.
6. Silverlight doesn't run on RT? Kidding me?
7. Playing HD video isn't going to be easy. Not even one app which could play MKV files.
8. The copy paste of text inside surface isn't as easy as in iPad. Sometimes it takes too much time to get the needed text selected on IE.
9. Needs tweaking to run Flash on all websites (its a hack. Why?)
10, Pointing the cursor to an exact place in a text area isn't as easy as in iPad with the magnifying glass.
By the way, WHERE IS THE REPORT A PROBLEM button in RT ?
Though I have so many complaints, I still love my Surface. I don't use my iPad anymore. Many times, I had tried to touch my monitor while using my laptop. MS is spoiling me
mchimney said:
I really love mine the more I use it. I'm typing this on the touchcover and although I make a lot of mistakes I seem to be getting better at it. That said, I do have some issues but nothing that major (yet!). Battery life seems to be much less than the ipad, people report 8-10 hours, I only get like 4-7. The apps are a disappointment, but I plan to use this device productively soo all I really need is dropbox. The device seems to slow down when editing 2 page documents in word. I tried to make a brochure on here and dragging pictures around was a nightmare. I did type a paper onhere and while it took longer then on a regular keyboard it wasn't that bad.
IE 10 for metro is complete trash. Can't even load XDA so I find myself always forced to use the desktop version. If you buy one, I suggest the model higher than 32gb as we really only get lke 14 gb because of the os taking up so much room.
The touchcover gets very dirty it seems. I'm not suire if I can clean it without ruining it. I sneeze on it before and it has a nasty stain =/.
The device itself is very prone to scratches, I tend to try to plug the thing into charge while its dark and that damn connector is such a pita that I always scratch the bezel.
I love the keyboard gestures (which I know can be used on any computer). The UI is very fast, there's a crap ton of gestures to learn. Yet, there are some gripes. Closing an app takes a crazy amount of time. You have to drag all theway from the top of the screen to the bottom, unnecessary.
Overall, I love it and I plan on keeping it. I still have my ipad and my nexus 7 but this really helps me get stuff done. The fact I can plug in almost any usb device and hve it work is amazing. You can even charge cellphones and stuff with the USB. I would recommend getting the surface IF you realize you can't run anything that's not in the store. No browser addons, no exe fils, nothing. Sometime that makes me wish I got the pro, but this device is really enough. Get past the quirkiness of metro + desktop and it's a beast.
Sorry for the typos. This was typed on the touch cover while lying down in bed.
*EDIT* The messenger app sucks realy badly too. You add someone as a friend (which can't be done in the app you have to go to a website) then you can't ever send them a message cause it says "Name unavailable" but they can send you messages. Its a one way form of communication.
*Edit2* Another clunky part. There are no jpg thumbail previews in the desktop. And when you want to open an image it has to open a program in metro
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In response to some of your issues. I love metro ui based IE and find it loads XDA without issue. A good tip is to enable adblocking filters using the tips in this forum (find the topic called tips). It loads XDA fine now for me.
Closing an app by dragging top to bottom takes a lot of time? It's a half second gesture man. Be realistic. Alot of your complaints are issues that are not issues at all. It's a different UI, give it a break.
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tcsekhar said:
I love the surface responsiveness and the new UI. But still there is still miles to go to get this perfect.
1. After being ON for more than 3 days, clicking on Email opened up weather, can't reach the email by clicking on any of the tiles. Same with IE. I had to reboot.
2. The auto rotate stopped working suddenly. I had to reboot to get it working again.
3. The email Client is awful. Need a better email app. It can't even match 10% of other email client's functionality. (No multi select, too much delay when navigating emails in the list, no option to Archive vs Delete, Moving to folders isn't as easy,
4. There is no Cisco VPN client. If your work requires non standard Cisco VPN connectivity, stay away.
5. Enterprise Distribution of apps isn't clear yet. We shouldn't have to have enterprise apps published to Microsoft Store every time.
6. Silverlight doesn't run on RT? Kidding me?
7. Playing HD video isn't going to be easy. Not even one app which could play MKV files.
8. The copy paste of text inside surface isn't as easy as in iPad. Sometimes it takes too much time to get the needed text selected on IE.
9. Needs tweaking to run Flash on all websites (its a hack. Why?)
10, Pointing the cursor to an exact place in a text area isn't as easy as in iPad with the magnifying glass.
By the way, WHERE IS THE REPORT A PROBLEM button in RT ?
Though I have so many complaints, I still love my Surface. I don't use my iPad anymore. Many times, I had tried to touch my monitor while using my laptop. MS is spoiling me
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MKV does not equal HD, so try playing an MP4 or something in HD before making comments like this. So what if it doesn't play MKV format, there are plenty it does play.
cmscritic said:
I love mine. I find the interface refreshing and unique, the people app lets me do way more with social media than I have been able to do in the past. Typing on the touch cover is still a bit of a challenge but they are saying it takes a few days to get it done properly. Speed wise, there are no issues. Mine is snappy and responsive. Battery life is amazing. I can use it all day 6am until 7pm and still only be down to around 30-40% battery remaining. There is a lack of apps but nothing that I can't wait out. I expected the ecosystem will take a bit to get going and I'm willing to wait. I sold my ipad with retina and honestly don't miss it at all.
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Wow your experience with the Microsoft surface sure is awesome. It sounds awesome and I can't wait to check it out. Not sure if it is available in my country though...
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mchimney said:
I really love mine the more I use it. I'm typing this on the touchcover and although I make a lot of mistakes I seem to be getting better at it. That said, I do have some issues but nothing that major (yet!). Battery life seems to be much less than the ipad, people report 8-10 hours, I only get like 4-7. The apps are a disappointment, but I plan to use this device productively soo all I really need is dropbox. The device seems to slow down when editing 2 page documents in word. I tried to make a brochure on here and dragging pictures around was a nightmare. I did type a paper onhere and while it took longer then on a regular keyboard it wasn't that bad.
IE 10 for metro is complete trash. Can't even load XDA so I find myself always forced to use the desktop version. If you buy one, I suggest the model higher than 32gb as we really only get lke 14 gb because of the os taking up so much room.
The touchcover gets very dirty it seems. I'm not suire if I can clean it without ruining it. I sneeze on it before and it has a nasty stain =/.
The device itself is very prone to scratches, I tend to try to plug the thing into charge while its dark and that damn connector is such a pita that I always scratch the bezel.
I love the keyboard gestures (which I know can be used on any computer). The UI is very fast, there's a crap ton of gestures to learn. Yet, there are some gripes. Closing an app takes a crazy amount of time. You have to drag all theway from the top of the screen to the bottom, unnecessary.
Overall, I love it and I plan on keeping it. I still have my ipad and my nexus 7 but this really helps me get stuff done. The fact I can plug in almost any usb device and hve it work is amazing. You can even charge cellphones and stuff with the USB. I would recommend getting the surface IF you realize you can't run anything that's not in the store. No browser addons, no exe fils, nothing. Sometime that makes me wish I got the pro, but this device is really enough. Get past the quirkiness of metro + desktop and it's a beast.
Sorry for the typos. This was typed on the touch cover while lying down in bed.
*EDIT* The messenger app sucks realy badly too. You add someone as a friend (which can't be done in the app you have to go to a website) then you can't ever send them a message cause it says "Name unavailable" but they can send you messages. Its a one way form of communication.
*Edit2* Another clunky part. There are no jpg thumbail previews in the desktop. And when you want to open an image it has to open a program in metro
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The Microsoft surface is still new so it probably still have quite a number of flaws. Hope Microsoft work on it and come out with Microsoft surface 2?
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tcsekhar said:
I love the surface responsiveness and the new UI. But still there is still miles to go to get this perfect.
1. After being ON for more than 3 days, clicking on Email opened up weather, can't reach the email by clicking on any of the tiles. Same with IE. I had to reboot.
2. The auto rotate stopped working suddenly. I had to reboot to get it working again.
3. The email Client is awful. Need a better email app. It can't even match 10% of other email client's functionality. (No multi select, too much delay when navigating emails in the list, no option to Archive vs Delete, Moving to folders isn't as easy,
4. There is no Cisco VPN client. If your work requires non standard Cisco VPN connectivity, stay away.
5. Enterprise Distribution of apps isn't clear yet. We shouldn't have to have enterprise apps published to Microsoft Store every time.
6. Silverlight doesn't run on RT? Kidding me?
7. Playing HD video isn't going to be easy. Not even one app which could play MKV files.
8. The copy paste of text inside surface isn't as easy as in iPad. Sometimes it takes too much time to get the needed text selected on IE.
9. Needs tweaking to run Flash on all websites (its a hack. Why?)
10, Pointing the cursor to an exact place in a text area isn't as easy as in iPad with the magnifying glass.
By the way, WHERE IS THE REPORT A PROBLEM button in RT ?
Though I have so many complaints, I still love my Surface. I don't use my iPad anymore. Many times, I had tried to touch my monitor while using my laptop. MS is spoiling me
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That sounds really troublesome and watching movies and videos is a pain.
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cmscritic said:
In response to some of your issues. I love metro ui based IE and find it loads XDA without issue. A good tip is to enable adblocking filters using the tips in this forum (find the topic called tips). It loads XDA fine now for me.
Closing an app by dragging top to bottom takes a lot of time? It's a half second gesture man. Be realistic. Alot of your complaints are issues that are not issues at all. It's a different UI, give it a break.
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MKV does not equal HD, so try playing an MP4 or something in HD before making comments like this. So what if it doesn't play MKV format, there are plenty it does play.
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I agree MKV does not equal HD. But the best compression today seems to be MKV files, and I have a ton of those. I don't want to convert all of them again into MP4 or any other format at this point. When all other OS supports playing it, why not MS - especially when they are late in the game, and know what the expectations are?
only 4-7 hours? maybe faulty device? everybody has like 8-10.. 4-7 aint too good
mr_dan said:
only 4-7 hours? maybe faulty device? everybody has like 8-10.. 4-7 aint too good
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Mine with continuous use from morning 7AM till 9PM still have 30% juice. I just use for browse & search - no play or video.
tcsekhar said:
Mine with continuous use from morning 7AM till 9PM still have 30% juice. I just use for browse & search - no play or video.
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Agreed. Mine is about the same.
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tcsekhar said:
I agree MKV does not equal HD. But the best compression today seems to be MKV files, and I have a ton of those. I don't want to convert all of them again into MP4 or any other format at this point. When all other OS supports playing it, why not MS - especially when they are late in the game, and know what the expectations are?
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I know what you mean, I'd love to have it too (especially for the space savings) but I think we need to give MS some time to get the apps rolling. It's a new ecosystem and I've no doubt it'll get rolling soon. Would LOVE to see VLC on it.. that would rock.
I understand the os is new but I love the potential. I love this device regardless of my complaints. I do miss Google though.
In regards to my battery, I think something must be wrong, I'm using quite a lot of battery even just idling
mchimney said:
I understand the os is new but I love the potential. I love this device regardless of my complaints. I do miss Google though.
In regards to my battery, I think something must be wrong, I'm using quite a lot of battery even just idling
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I'd take it in and have it looked at. I can usually go the whole day without issue.
mchimney said:
I understand the os is new but I love the potential. I love this device regardless of my complaints. I do miss Google though.
In regards to my battery, I think something must be wrong, I'm using quite a lot of battery even just idling
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Probably your wifi, email or any idling applications could have cause the huge drainage of battery
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brandonjuraimi said:
Probably your wifi, email or any idling applications could have cause the huge drainage of battery
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I know Bluettoth also kills battery on phones and on the surface it is on by default. We need one of those battery monitoring apps, especially since the Start screen doesn't report battery details - I did find the "Windows Mobility Center" in the backend/desktop, and created a link on the start screen - it provides batter percentage among other shortcuts - pretty cool.
what I do love about the Surface is all the little things that can be tweaked on the descktop - By far more customizable than any other tablet out there.
tcsekhar said:
I agree MKV does not equal HD. But the best compression today seems to be MKV files, and I have a ton of those. I don't want to convert all of them again into MP4 or any other format at this point. When all other OS supports playing it, why not MS - especially when they are late in the game, and know what the expectations are?
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MKV is just a container, like avi or ogg. So actual compression is x264 or as some call it mp4. There is also MP4 container which contains also x264 compressed videos, so moving files from mkv to MP4 is possible without reencoding, but just repacking.
But I agree, it is not for everyone and I'm sure mkv support will come soon through some third party app like vlc or mplayer.
This device is very new to the market and the os as well.
encho said:
MKV is just a container, like avi or ogg. So actual compression is x264 or as some call it mp4. There is also MP4 container which contains also x264 compressed videos, so moving files from mkv to MP4 is possible without reencoding, but just repacking.
But I agree, it is not for everyone and I'm sure mkv support will come soon through some third party app like vlc or mplayer.
This device is very new to the market and the os as well.
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MKV is definitely the container of choice for HD in this day and age so any current system needs to be able to handle it if they want to sell units My whole HTPC movie library is in MKV. Having to convert to mp4 is not very practical as it requires time and steps (I use Handbrake for my Ipod touch). The latest Androids can play alomost anything thrown at them. I am sure someone will release a video player that will handle it if the surface is truly to be considered a media device. The question is will MS let it get certified in the store (Still unclear on the process and what's allowed - I would love to see a Opera or Firefox borwser too and I thought MS got sued years back for limiting options of browsers on the desktop OS). The question is how open MS will be to allow competing apps, especially if they want to sell hardware.
guitar1969 said:
MKV is definitely the container of choice for HD in this day and age so any current system needs to be able to handle it if they want to sell units My whole HTPC movie library is in MKV. Having to convert to mp4 is not very practical as it requires time and steps (I use Handbrake for my Ipod touch). The latest Androids can play alomost anything thrown at them. I am sure someone will release a video player that will handle it if the surface is truly to be considered a media device. The question is will MS let it get certified in the store (Still unclear on the process and what's allowed - I would love to see a Opera or Firefox borwser too and I thought MS got sued years back for limiting options of browsers on the desktop OS). The question is how open MS will be to allow competing apps, especially if they want to sell hardware.
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Back in my Linux days I had a script which unpacks MKV like it would zip file and repacks into MP4. The whole process takes 1 minute. But as you said MKV support needs to come to RT and MS is aware of the fact that sale of their Surface tablets depends on third party apps.
So I don't think they'll have an issue with VLC or Opera or anything else. More apps equals more profit.
tcsekhar said:
3. The email Client is awful. Need a better email app. It can't even match 10% of other email client's functionality. (No multi select, too much delay when navigating emails in the list, no option to Archive vs Delete, Moving to folders isn't as easy,
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Agree its not very good, I hope they release an RT version of Outlook.
But you CAN multiselect, kind of swipe an email to the right a bit and a tick pops up in the corner, and then do the same for other.
At the moment, Hotmail/Outlook.com is better than the RT mail app...

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