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Hey everybody! Sorry if this isn't the right section to be posting in. I guess we'll find out -- Here's the deal:
I've been administering a server of mine for quite a while now. I started out with it running windows server 2008. I had an application that I was using to connect to it over remote desktop protocol, and everything was grand. I recently switched over to CentOS, which has been absolutely the right decision. After a while of running it, I found a nice little server that works similarly (better!) to remote desktop connection. It also allows me to connect from more than 2 concurrent sessions (most college students can't even afford 5 CAL's) as well as a host of other configuration options, not to mention excellent compression.
After spending some time looking and searching through the market for an app that would offer me the ability to connect to NX or NoMachine sessions, I came up emptyhanded. I must admit, I was a bit disappointed that the adoption seemed to gravitate toward a windows crowd, which seemed odd to me. Considering android is so deeply rooted in linux and open source development, I thought that there must be a solution.
So rather than go on and on (at least more than I have in this thread!) and complaining, I thought "What a good time to put my education in UNIX, Java, and minimal amounts of C/C++ to work for me!"
This begs the question:
"Who else has, like me, searched endlessly for this functionality only to come up emptyhanded?"
So folks, raise your hands if you're interested in adding this capability to the already long list of enhancements that your android phone has over all the other smartphones.
Also, in case anyone is wondering, while I have posted this in the "Paid software" category, I would be more than happy to make this app available to all of my friends here at XDA, the people who have done so much to keep me educated, up to date, and running the latest and greatest software, completely free of charge. In the market, I would offer a free and donate version as well.
Anyone who has suggestions for features is welcome to post them. I have a few in mind already, but I would love to hear some input from you all.
I would definitely be interested in an NX client for Android, if you think you can come up with one. I've thought to myself that considering there are open source NX clients out there for Windows, Mac and linux platforms, it shouldn't be that terribly difficult to port the code to Android's java; but I don't have the coding abilities to do it. It's definitely one of those apps that you'd think would be out there, but it's not. And although you may not have gotten any other responses on here about it, there's definitely other poeple out there looking for just this kind of app - just do a search on Google for "Android" and "NX" and you get tons of results with people looking for it.
I've been running NX (or FreeNX) on my linux machines for a few years now, and I've got to say the technology is great, and I'm surprised it hasn't caught on more than it has. VNC does allow for similar connections, but the performance and efficiency doesn't even compare. It's my guess though that this is why we haven't seen an NX client on Android yet - the fact that you can use VNC, and those apps already exist. Regardless, if you can come up with the NX client, count me in as interested
Oh Hell yes...
Hello,
I would be definitely interested in a NX client for android, shame I have non-existent Java skills!
Stuart
+1 would love to see this.
Maybe it's possible in the Atrix webtop environment. They already have a citrix client apparently which is pretty cool!
I've been using and loving NX too and would like to see such a client too
I'm up for it (and would pay for it too) - I would recommend a tablet version if you can? I'm using a Honeycomb tablet to make remote connections and VNC is painfully slow over a mobile connection!
i would love to see this done.
I have some lightweight Java skills, but have absolutely no exp on the android sdk and will be completely unreliable as I'm supposed to be studying after work, not developing
but drop me a pm if you get this project started and I'll dabble where & when I can
Add another interested party in an NX client for Android. I've been using VNC for everything remote access for years and years. I discovered NX last week when I needed an alternative in a pinch. And I'm a convert. Whenever it's possible, I'll be using NX instead of VNC. So it would be great to have a client on my EVO 3D.
+1!!!!!
I have desktop effects enabled on my desktop/personal server at home, and vnc cant handle that. I researched for alternatives and I came up with FreeNX, perfect solution, except there is no client for my droid!!! I am on the go alot and I would be MORE than happy to donate some cashola to my bro's at XDA! All of you guys rock, and if this is ever going to get done, it'll be through you guys! Count me in.
+1 interested!
Add me to the list as well. I have used nx servers/clients for 2 years or so. Prior to using the Android, back when Maemo was big on Nokia, I found a ported version of QTNX that worked on ARM architectures. My very round about attempt I thought to try is to test that one in a chrooted Ubuntu in android but never could get it to function. I have mild experience now and am in the middle of coding a few android utilities but would love to contribute to this... have you considered setting up a git repo or google project or is there one started? Also, I'm not sure if this would work but was also looking at their new web-player client option. I wonder if anyone has tested that out..
Count me in, too. My 12 year old C++ skills aren't going to help, but I'd be in for a paid version.
I was about to try and develop an NX client for iPhone when we got a Honeycomb tablet - that seems like a lot better way to spend my time. I am an experienced Java coder but haven't developed for Android before; I would be happy to learn and contribute though!
+1 and here's some help
I would definitely use an Android NX client.
If you choose to do this (and haven't done the grunt work of figuring out how), here are some pointers that (hopefully) will help:
NX is based on X. So you'll need an X server written in Java to port to Android for starters. If you're okay with going the pure OSS route, there's a GPL'd one to start from at jcraft.com / wierdx (Sorry, I'm a newbie here so am not allowed to post a direct link.)
I haven't tried it, but usually starting from *something* is better than starting from *nothing*.
You'll also need a pure-Java SSH client. The above site has one or you could rip the one out of Eclipse. I can vouch that this code is good as it's what's used by Eclipse for its CVS/SSH and GIT/SSH support.
NX also uses the Differential X Protocol Compressor (DXPC) as part of the X protocol acceleration. The X server above claims to support this too, but I can't vouch for how well.
If you do this, I would suggest to consider making it open source at your favorite OSS repo (GitHub is mine), which gives you at least a fighting chance of finding other like-minded developers who can help.
Thanks for considering this. I hope you're successful!
Dave Orme
+1 for help
i am also with Java background but no android background
and i would love to donate from my spare time into making this a working OSS project
let me know if and how i can help if you have already started working on it - i will take a look at the pointers loaded in here and see what i can learn from them.
contact me via PM here
X server and NX
I have been getting into this with a bit more detail and I found out that there is no X server for Android, so what I did is the following (work in progress):
- X2VNC, that is an X server with VNC backend (it gets launched automatically via intents), there is also an intent to invoke the X server. I have compiled it statically, I guess it would be a good point to upload that to the market place.
- Compiled nxproxy which are needed to get the nxclient working
I am working for a company which is using NX as their desktop ttransport method, so no plans for developing the nxclient so far, but happy to assist in providing these two elements, the rest would probably be:
- UI interface (Java probably)
- nxssh (ssh client with modified select).
Let me know if anyone is interested.
Fund it!
http://code.google.com/p/desktoid/
http://www.nomachine.com/web-player.php
The X server for android
I have published the X server for Android. Search for Xvnc or X11 in the android market place.
+1 would pay for this too
+1
I'd happily pay $10 for an NX client for my Galaxy Nexus!
Hi ,everyone.This is my first post.
I like the airplay of appleTV. And take a plan to Implement a DLNA for android.
Now i know some open source project , And i do some try on it:
minidlna :
a dlna server, C language, just support a few file types.
Now it can work in my android TV.
Cling:
It a dlna open source project for dlna core library,but not finished.
And base it , there is a open android project: wireme(can not post link here, youcan search it) , but no body keep it on.
I want to make a full function DLNA, include DMS DMR DMC DMP.
Anybody give some suggestions ? Or We can develop it together.
Thank you!
How about this ? are you going for this ?
I'd be intersted in this (like in every other new application) !
Looking forward to this project
Question. Does Rygel not do this?
http://live.gnome.org/Rygel
its greats job good work man
Rygel
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Question. Does Rygel not do this?
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Rygel is by Gnome which is Linux not Android. Right? I haven't kept up with what all the projects are doing, is Gnome getting into Android?
Hello, I was just wondering if anyone had any tips. I'm converting my son's HP Mini 110-1012nr into a multi-Linux project just for fun. I have Ubuntu 12.10, Chromium OS and am attempting to add Android-X86. The problem is my son's wifi adapter: It's a Broadcom 4312 and does not play nice with Linux. I was successful with the Ubuntu and Chromium builds, but just can't get it set up on any x86 version of Android I can find. It helped that I could get the ethernet working in Ubuntu and program on USB before actually installing Chromium. Anybody have any tips? Builds? Pointers? Or if you would just like to discuss my project (which I am having fun with in my quest to move my family out of the Bill Gates dependency), then feel free. Thank you in advance.
JPB
Well it is going to be hard to get Android x86 working with a WIFI Adapter especially BCM4312
Anyways here you go.
http://groups.google.com/group/andr...b?lnk=gst&q=Dell+Latitude+XT#f5149f6341621b6b
You may have to remove specifics about Dell Lattitude XT and simply
use the script that download the driver from Broadcom web site and
patches the build system...
In-short, you have to compile your own Kernel to get it working
Thank you for the reply. I was thinking that too, but am hoping to avoid building my own. It might be fun to take on though. Your link is one I hadn't seen before. I know Broadcom released the drivers to a dev from dell (that's how I got Chromium to work). I am too new to post the link, but hit me up if anyone is interested. I'll find a way to get you the link.
The link that I gave should help you out without even having to Compile your own Kernel, bcz I did come across one such post
For those interested...
I've put the native Windows RT binaries for Apache 2.0 on GitHub:
https://github.com/bfosterjr/windowsrtdev/blob/master/apps/Apache/2.0.65/bin/apache_2.0.65_arm.7z
Don't even bother asking me how to configure it. There are hundreds of wiki pages, documents, books, etc dedicated to Apache configuration.
Its probably missing some features (SSL comes to mind), but its a working web server for people to tinker with on the tablet. If someone can give me a _compelling reason_ for wanting a full blown Apache web server on a Windows RT tablet, I'm happy to spend more time on this and make it more fully featured.
Cheers!
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If someone can give me a _compelling reason_ for wanting a full blown Apache web server on a Windows RT tablet, I'm happy to spend more time on this and make it more fully featured.
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I'm not sure about use-cases either, but still, this is seriously cool!
Reasons for maintaining a full-blown (at least partial, without HTTPS fancy stuff, but the essentials like mod_rewrite etc.) WAMP (so MySQL and PHP too) stack on Windows RT would be:
1. There would be a platform for developing and testing websites on a Windows RT tablet, much to the delight of potential web developers. We already have Notepad++ as a decent code editor.
2. Porting MySQL (+ libmysql) would be useful for other applications as a library itself, and then PHP is a (overly) popular scripting language which can also be used to develop console applications (php-cli is compiled along with PHP. along with the Apache extension for mod_php). There probably won't be many native Windows RT applications developed for it (the only library for PHP to develop really useful native GUI apps is Php-Gtk, but GTK+ isn't ported and the PHP-GTK project itself is very.. silent), but it is handy if quick stuff needs to be coded. Porting PHP is pretty much close to the reasons for porting Python, plus it can be used on a local web stack too.
3. When a MAMP stack was ported to iOS I remember someone made a working music player (PHPPod) with it, so it still might be useful if the resources are there. I'll personally think of some ideas for "apps" that can be run in the browser with the WAMP stack on Windows RT and try to code them if this is ported.
I know this is a potentially dangerous post, but I'm looking for suggestions for things to port. I make no promises that I'll be willing/able to port any suggested software.
Some ground rules before you hit 'reply'
1) Don't ask for Chrome. I won't port it. Period.
2) The source code must be available and not have any _obvious_ specific ties to non-open source code. Eg: some proprietary or closed source library which it depends on.
3) Code must be in C or C++ (I can deal with porting some assembly if needed)
4) Project must be of a _reasonable_ size for 1 person. Honestly, I do this on my own and in my spare time. Some apps can be just massively overwhelming to port. That being sad, sometimes the big ones are also easy.... so use your own judgement here.
5) Tell me why you want it ported. Whats your "use case".
6) Drivers aren't out of the question, but they generally take significantly more work.
Feel free to +1 others suggestions.
Ok.. <puts on protective gear>.. fire away!
Cheers!
Thanks for all your awesome work.
While this isn't an app, I think that the kexec kernel-mode driver idea that was tossed around earlier would be waay more useful than an individual app. Every time it was brought up somebody said "Oh, that won't be much work." And then nobody did anything :-/
So, I'm hugely grateful for the time you put in here, but I think I'd be even huger-ly grateful-er if you opened the door to other OSs.
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What would be good is:
http://ekiga.org/download-ekiga-binaries-or-source-code
But I'm pretty sure it uses some libraries not avail
I wish XNA could run on Windows RT. It'd be funny to see Terraria and Magicka on Windows RT...
Firefox would be nice, but without a Thumb-2 JITter, it's not worth it.
Would be nice to have InSSIDer. I use it a lot on my laptop, rather leave it at home.
https://github.com/metageek-llc/inSSIDer-2
Myriachan said:
I wish XNA could run on Windows RT. It'd be funny to see Terraria and Magicka on Windows RT...
Firefox would be nice, but without a Thumb-2 JITter, it's not worth it.
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I would say to take a look at monogame. It can actually build microsoft store apps including ARM support, so coercing it into functioning on the windows desktop may be possible. Otherwise it might end up being a rule 4 :/
There are hacks out there to run terraria on MonoGame instead of XNA, most of them pretty complete but sometimes have the odd graphical glitch. A full source port to MonoGame would be far more reliable, and actually very simple, but sadly its closed source (although not obfuscated).
One of the supposedly more reliable ones: http://www.terrariaonline.com/threads/wip-monogame-terraria-terraria-for-linux.72997/
Isn't rule one covered by rule four?
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Isn't rule one covered by rule four?
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No.
People can have bad judgement.. so I'm making an explicit point about Chrome.
Personally i Was really disappointed by the lack of a transmission remote app when i discovered métro interface!
Plus there are many utorrent app...
SO, i think TR Gui source code is available, i think there is many people interested, And i think it will not be too difficult to develop, that can be a wonderfull idea (especially for me ) to make this one
Just found one. TCPMP, this player worked great during the PocketPC/Windows Mobile era. It moved from open source to a commercial different version which is closed source but I believe the link below has the source.
http://www.hpcfactor.com/downloads/tcpmp/
This would bring about a player that supports MKV playback.
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Just found one. TCPMP, this player worked great during the PocketPC/Windows Mobile era. It moved from open source to a commercial different version which is closed source but I believe the link below has the source.
http://www.hpcfactor.com/downloads/tcpmp/
This would bring about a player that supports MKV playback.
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There is no source code downloadable from that site. All the links are non-existent. Please post the source code if you have it.
Cheers!
bfosterjr said:
There is no source code downloadable from that site. All the links are non-existent. Please post the source code if you have it.
Cheers!
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Does this help http://code.google.com/p/tcpmp-revive/source/browse/#svn/trunk
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Personally i Was really disappointed by the lack of a transmission remote app when i discovered métro interface!
Plus there are many utorrent app...
SO, i think TR Gui source code is available, i think there is many people interested, And i think it will not be too difficult to develop, that can be a wonderfull idea (especially for me ) to make this one
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2101891
mr djé said:
Personally i Was really disappointed by the lack of a transmission remote app when i discovered métro interface!
Plus there are many utorrent app...
SO, i think TR Gui source code is available, i think there is many people interested, And i think it will not be too difficult to develop, that can be a wonderfull idea (especially for me ) to make this one
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I think the problem with the current torrent apps are you either have to pay to get the ability to download files in the background, or the app doesn't support it. I'd like to see a free torrent client that allows background downloading, even if it means speed has to be throttled a bit.
To the OP what is your favorite browser? If it is not Chrome(or Chromium), do you think it is possible to port that browser? At this point I'll even take Safari as I am starting to hate all the crashes that occur for me in IE.
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I think the problem with the current torrent apps are you either have to pay to get the ability to download files in the background, or the app doesn't support it. I'd like to see a free torrent client that allows background downloading, even if it means speed has to be throttled a bit.
To the OP what is your favorite browser? If it is not Chrome(or Chromium), do you think it is possible to port that browser? At this point I'll even take Safari as I am starting to hate all the crashes that occur for me in IE.
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Safari is not open source so cannot be ported.
Chrome is a rule 4 - or in other words is too much effort for 1 man to do in a reasonable time frame.
Firefox is also a rule 4, plus its a ***** to get it to compile properly under microsoft tools apparently, plus its javascript engine is raw ARMv7 JIT whereas windows RT bugs with that and would require a THUMB2 JIT. Chrome also would have javascript issues, although in chrome you can have an interpreted javascript engine I think which would just be hideously slow in comparison.
Opera - Closed source.
The list goes on unfortunately. Browsers are complex creatures. Most will come under rule 4 though.
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I think the problem with the current torrent apps are you either have to pay to get the ability to download files in the background, or the app doesn't support it. I'd like to see a free torrent client that allows background downloading, even if it means speed has to be throttled a bit.
To the OP what is your favorite browser? If it is not Chrome(or Chromium), do you think it is possible to port that browser? At this point I'll even take Safari as I am starting to hate all the crashes that occur for me in IE.
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What the hell are you doing to get all these crashes? I have yet to have IE crash on 8 or 8.1 on RT in desktop or metro.
My only suggestion would be a gui SFTP client. This is probably the one utility I am currently missing on my Surface RT (I use ssh to remote into Linux systems both for work and personal use, point #5). To clarify, I do use the psftp client in the putty suit, and that works well enough, just takes a bit more time and effort than something like winscp. I can continue to use this if an gui alternative is not feasible.
I recall someone requesting winscp at some point in the past, so I searched around this forum and I did find a couple of people that took a stab at it, but with no results, and I haven't found a clear explanation on what the hang up was. Looking at the readme winscp appears to be written in c++ at least (point #3):
To build WinSCP you need:
- Embarcadero C++ Builder XE2 Professional.
- Copy MFC source code from Borland C++ Builder 6 Professional and
build its Unicode version (see readme_mfc.txt).
- nasm from http://www.nasm.us/
- To build 64-bit version of drag&drop shell extension, you need
Windows Platform SDK:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/bb980924
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I am unsure if the aforementioned Windows Platform SDK is available for Windows RT, or if it is even needed since Windows RT is not 64-bit.
Is nasm the problem? It looks to be an x86/x64 assembler... which of course wouldn't work on ARM... unless I just don't get what an assembler is...
Not being much of a coder I also don't know if one can import a Borland C++ project into Visual Studio, so maybe that is also a problem too.
So I guess I'm not sure on a lot of the points on the ground rules list...
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My only suggestion would be a gui SFTP client. This is probably the one utility I am currently missing on my Surface RT (I use ssh to remote into Linux systems both for work and personal use, point #5). To clarify, I do use the psftp client in the putty suit, and that works well enough, just takes a bit more time and effort than something like winscp. I can continue to use this if an gui alternative is not feasible.
I recall someone requesting winscp at some point in the past, so I searched around this forum and I did find a couple of people that took a stab at it, but with no results, and I haven't found a clear explanation on what the hang up was. Looking at the readme winscp appears to be written in c++ at least (point #3):
I am unsure if the aforementioned Windows Platform SDK is available for Windows RT, or if it is even needed since Windows RT is not 64-bit.
Is nasm the problem? It looks to be an x86/x64 assembler... which of course wouldn't work on ARM... unless I just don't get what an assembler is...
Not being much of a coder I also don't know if one can import a Borland C++ project into Visual Studio, so maybe that is also a problem too.
So I guess I'm not sure on a lot of the points on the ground rules list...
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Borland C++ is an alternative set of 3rd part C++ tools. Would take a bit of work to get a borland project to compile it under microsoft tools.
Nasm is an x86/x64 assembler yes. Assembly language is pretty much the lowest level of programming possible before writing in raw hex or binary. It is *HIGHLY* CPU dependent. Specifically the set of commands available in assembly is the plain text form of the exact instruction set the CPU has available which for x86 is different from ARM. The fact that nasm is required means that the project will have assembly in it, therefore an RT port will not be undertaken (one of the rules in the OP).
Sorry man, its proprietary tools and parts of it are unportable anyway. Doesnt mean another SFTP client can't be ported, just this one.
Here's my wishlist. I've poked at some of them, but I don't really have time to finish any of them.
WinPCap - Iirc, the biggest issue was that it was written targeting an older version of NDIS. The usecase would be to provide network support for BOCHS.
QEmu - There's a build of QEmu that builds on MSVC called WinQEmu, but it's dynarec recompiles to x86 only. I believe the official QEmu repo doesn't support MSVC, and I don't know if it can recompile to THUMB-2.
A good IRC client - X-Chat and mIRC run poorly under the emulator, and the few .net clients I've tried are meh. X-Chat has too many GCC-specific requirements, and mIRC isn't open source, I just want a good IRC client.
An X Server - I've been unable to find an X server that builds with MSVC, or anything short of Cygwin for that matter, but I'd love to have one.
Calibre is a good eBook manager I think this is the correct source code https://code.launchpad.net/calibre
I'm not good with this source code stuff so if its to much you dont need to make a port but if you can it would be appreciated thanks
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What the hell are you doing to get all these crashes? I have yet to have IE crash on 8 or 8.1 on RT in desktop or metro.
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Browsing news sites and/or using Spotify.