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Hi folks,
since some days my battery drives me crazy...
Last week i flashed CM10 by nk111. Nice ROM, but my battery lasted only for some hours with normal usage. So I went back to MIUI...problem stayed.
Yesterday I flashed Jellytime and replaced the battery. The problem stayed as well. At 6 pm battery was full, I restored my apps with Titanium, used it a bit and when I was going to bed at 10 p.m. battery was 81%. Getting up at 5:30 this morning --> battery was 41%.
After the battery was full yesterday night I used display for maybe 10 minutes, why there are 36% battery usage by th display?
WTF happened to my system by flashing CM10 by nk111???
Any help is appreciated!
PS:
Baseband-Version: 20.72.30.0833U_3831.17.00.310
Kernel-Version: 3.0.50-g6ea80e4
First, do you have Google now on. It really drains the battery. If that doesn't help install better battery stats and let it go through a couple of cycles, it will help you pinpoint if any apps or wakelocks are draining your battery.
“Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO is the answer.” – Erik Naggum
I don't use Google Now. I use the same apps withe the same intensity than in better battery times...
Could you please give me a recommendation for a battery stats tool?
Thanks!
flsch said:
I don't use Google Now. I use the same apps withe the same intensity than in better battery times...
Could you please give me a recommendation for a battery stats tool?
Thanks!
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Use the search, you'll find it in both xda and playstore it's called better battery stats
“Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO is the answer.” – Erik Naggum
U have an app or something that is running when screen is off.
Find the app and del it.
Sent from the DesiredS
app called carat could also help you find the battery sucking thing. It's a bit more simple than battery stats, you'll like it if you're not an expert.
it doesn't need to be a new app that is sucking power, it could be the poorly made update of some app that you're using for a long time.
I installed both apps.
But in both I can't find any kind of statistics about consumed power by apps or something similar, am I that stupid?
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I installed both apps.
But in both I can't find any kind of statistics about consumed power by apps or something similar, am I that stupid?
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Bbs needs to run for at least a full battery cycle to give you a clear picture, if recommend running it for at least a day
“Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO is the answer.” – Erik Naggum
I get max 24 hours battery life , sometimes 12 hours , so it's not something to worry. If you speak 2-3 hours and WiFi on another 2-3 hours that is the battery în my case 12 hours max.
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spavian said:
I get max 24 hours battery life , sometimes 12 hours , so it's not something to worry. If you speak 2-3 hours and WiFi on another 2-3 hours that is the battery în my case 12 hours max.
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IT IS something to worry, cause battery behaviour changed dramatically while I didn't change my usage of the phone.
40% battery loss over night should be a clear indication of abnormal behaviour.
@jugg1es: thanks for the advice!
flsch said:
I installed both apps.
But in both I can't find any kind of statistics about consumed power by apps or something similar, am I that stupid?
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you must run carot a day or two, than it will display some apps on the first page and the approximate battery life you get if you kill them. read the manual also..
Yesterday in the evening I realized a 96% entry in the Partial Wavelocks section - AndroidMediaScanner. I freezed it (I know where my pictures and music is located...), did a full load on the battery and for 4 hours the battery remained at 100%. I really thought the problem is solved...but in the morning...31%
But - the 'Media' entry in the android accu stats is gone, I think this is a partial success.
In the BBS app, there is no remarkable value - the biggest is 3,8%.
When I watch the graphs - WiFi and Awake is nearly completetly blue over the whole night (unfortunately, I can't take screenshots right now for any reason).
I'm a bit helpless right now, will charge the phone now and keep an eye on BBS the next hours/days.
androidmediascanner shouldn't be the bad guy, it's a system app that we all have. maybe your battery is the problem...
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androidmediascanner shouldn't be the bad guy, it's a system app that we all have. maybe your battery is the problem...
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I inserted a new battery last week without any change. Don't think both batteries are broken.
The common way to solve this is to do a fresh install. Leave it for a day without any apps yo see if it is ROM related. See if the battery life improve. Install one app per day and monitor your phone awake period with screen on, it should be almost same.
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Yesterday night I made a full wipe, installed Jellytime and Gapps and went to sleep...
In the morning --> 67%.
Very odd, normally this would probably indicating a defect battery, but it is new!
Maybe a hardware defect?
Maybe RRU Problem?
Hi,
I have a similar problem here. I was using the desire s for a long timne with stock rom (2.x android), a full battery was enough for ~2 days. Then I rooted the device and installed CM10 (NK111 alpha build).
2 things changed:
The battery is empty after 24h or less.
The wireless network is worse than before. This is my subjective impression but there are places at home or in the office where wifi worked before and stopped working.
I'm starting excessive tests (disabling everything, removing apps, running carat) during xmas holidays to find the reason.
My guess what it might be: to root the device I did a downgrade, including a radio downgrade. Now I run baseband 20.23.30.0802U_38.02.01.11 which is known as "Saga Test RUU" and has the lowest version number of the RRUs listed in the forum. I did not found anything about this in the forum or with google but maybe this is the reason.
My average battery stats with normal use (whole day, used the phone a few minutes):
~30% Display
~25% Wifi
~17% Mobile Standby
~5% Android Os
For comparison, my Motorola Defy has in a similar scenario ~5% Wifi and ~3% Mobile Standby
Getting fine screen on time, but bad standby time. I left my phone idle for more than 10 hours, and everything looks fine...but I'm draining more than 2% per hour doing nothing! When I use the phone normally, idle drain is closer to 3%, with still not specific problem that can be seen. On Oreo stable, it was around 1.5%, which is still bad compared to my iPhone, but not unbearable. I had no SIM installed because it was in my iPhone, but with or without makes no noticeable difference.
Advanced optimization, sleep standby optimization AND adaptive battery also make no noticeable difference in ANY combination on and off.
Anyone have any ideas? Thanks in advance.
Edit: You might also notice the VPN icon, it's not a normal VPN (with active, keep-alive connection), but a proxy for those of us living in China. Again, I've tested on or off, no difference, and you can't see it in wakelocks or processes.
and kernel wakelocks?
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and kernel wakelocks?
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My bad.
Did you try turning off the WiFi scanning?
hasan4791 said:
Did you try turning off the WiFi scanning?
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Off by default I believe. It's off for me.
I need those pictures after let's say 6 hours of standby. I need to see standby usage only. So make a custom mark when you go to bed and then take the SS
whizeguy said:
I need those pictures after let's say 6 hours of standby. I need to see standby usage only. So make a custom mark when you go to bed and then take the SS
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That is standby. SoT is like 2 minutes.
deedaleet said:
That is standby. SoT is like 2 minutes.
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Get another over night stats for better understanding...
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Get another over night stats for better understanding...
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I don't understand. This is 11 hours of stats idle, on my table at home, with no one touching it. This is no different from ide overnight on my bedside table except total time. I have gathered overnight stats many times with exactly the same results as what's shown here trying to figure out what's wrong.
Could also be a bad WIFI, seen this before for some 5ghz networks.
Is bbs being optimized in battery settings?
try 2.4ghz wifi if you can (where you have good connection, OR just turn wifi off, so we can rule that out the equation.)
make sure better battery stats is NOT being optimized
and try one more time.
whizeguy said:
Could also be a bad WIFI, seen this before for some 5ghz networks.
Is bbs being optimized in battery settings?
try 2.4ghz wifi if you can (where you have good connection, OR just turn wifi off, so we can rule that out the equation.)
make sure better battery stats is NOT being optimized
and try one more time.
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Thanks for those suggestions. I hadn't tried switching to 2.4ghz or un-optimizing better battery stats. Unfortunately, there is no noticeable difference yet again. Turning Wifi off totally used to help a bit in Oreo, but hasn't made any difference at all in Pie.
Having the same issue too. Idle drain is fairly high on pie. Wakelocks are pretty clean too. I'm convinced it's something Google related or it's just the system isn't all that optimized as they want us to believe
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Having the same issue too. Idle drain is fairly high on pie. Wakelocks are pretty clean too. I'm convinced it's something Google related or it's just the system isn't all that optimized as they want us to believe
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Thanks for the reply. That makes me feel a little better. Most people on the internet complaining about Pie drain of course has no idea how to actually check anything beyond Android stock battery stats, so there's no way to corroborate.
I noticed that beta 4 has " * Optimized standby power consumption " listed as a system fix. But I don't want to clean flash in and then clean flash out of beta yet again because all of them have had such horrible touch latency that dozens of users are complaining about. But I'm almost tempted to try it.
Can anyone on beta 4 chime in?
deedaleet said:
Thanks for the reply. That makes me feel a little better. Most people on the internet complaining about Pie drain of course has no idea how to actually check anything beyond Android stock battery stats, so there's no way to corroborate.
I noticed that beta 4 has " * Optimized standby power consumption " listed as a system fix. But I don't want to clean flash in and then clean flash out of beta yet again because all of them have had such horrible touch latency that dozens of users are complaining about. But I'm almost tempted to try it.
Can anyone on beta 4 chime in?
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I'm on beta 4, first dirty flash and I had 0.3%/hour
I cleanflashed few days back,no root,locked bootloader. I loose 4% in 7hrs 30 minutes. So it's ok.. with GPS,wifi bluetooth on.
Touch latency is like stable pie.
i flashed the ob4 and wait to see battery consumption how it goes! i did'nt lose any files or settings
whizeguy said:
I'm on beta 4, first dirty flash and I had 0.3%/hour
I cleanflashed few days back,no root,locked bootloader. I loose 4% in 7hrs 30 minutes. So it's ok.. with GPS,wifi bluetooth on.
Touch latency is like stable pie.
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Thanks for the feedback! But 0.3% / hour? I'm skeptical. I'm not sure that any Android phone has ever been that low draining, ever. Certainly not in my years of experience. I don't think that's possible even with no apps installed. You can't post any wakelock details because you're not rooted... Maybe post a screenshot of your battery usage graph, please?
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Thanks for the feedback! But 0.3% / hour? I'm skeptical. I'm not sure that any Android phone has ever been that low draining, ever. Certainly not in my years of experience. I don't think that's possible even with no apps installed. You can't post any wakelock details because you're not rooted... Maybe post a screenshot of your battery usage graph, please?
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I have posts in the battery thread with BBS.
I had the same with my S7 edge.. so you can doubt all you want,I really don't care. Will post picture with an edit when I find it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77606592&postcount=211
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I have posts in the battery thread with BBS.
I had the same with my S7 edge.. so you can doubt all you want,I really don't care. Will post picture with an edit when I find it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77606592&postcount=211
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Well, I stand corrected. I have no idea what perfect storm of perfect conditions is represented here to get standby drain to near-iOS levels of amazingness, but that's impressive.
deedaleet said:
Well, I stand corrected. I have no idea what perfect storm of perfect conditions is represented here to get standby drain to near-iOS levels of amazingness, but that's impressive.
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Thanks. I feel like I'm being really lucky with this device tho.
I will get my root on today, clean flash again and I will just set it up and see where it lands. But I thought no what saves my battery the most is really good reception. The antenna is around 100meters (300 feet) from my house, WiFi is on point aswell (best on 2.4ghz)
So, like I said the bootloader got unlocked, root is on again so everything is fresh.
The smart battery didn't even have time to read apps that's draining battery this is standby usage with stock settings from OnePlus,without any optimizations. Im counting on adaptive battery that it will do its thing after a day or two.
I have around 20 apps installed but the ones that matter for battery is Telegram, instagram, steam.
Are there people out there who mostly use their OnePlus 6 with WiFi yet your phone is mostly idle?
What's your average WiFi battery drain? Could you please upload your main GSam Battery Monitor Screen?
My phone is connected to a WiFi router (2.4GHz 802.11n) and the signal strength is excellent. On average my OnePlus has a 10 mAh discharge rate which is several times higher than for my old Nexus which is connected to the same WiFi network.
Here's my data:
20% of 50% of battery used for 31.5 hours.
3300/31.5*0.2*0.5 = 10.48 mAh.
No one uses OnePlus 6?
Actually, people don't left their phone in the corner for days, so you know, you never know.
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Actually, people don't left their phone in the corner for days, so you know, you never know.
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I use a PC up to 16 hours a day. Not everyone is obsessed with Instagramming or twitterring. I only use my smart phone when I'm en route and I occasionally use instant messengers.
Those who've replied < 6mAh, could you show your GSam screenshots, please?
What type of WiFi router do you use? What WiFi standard? Do you have MiMo enabled on it?
If you rock your phone with that minimal usage, I recommend using ElementalX kernel and LKT magisk modue with battery profile, I'm getting way more battery with this setup compare to stock one (about 4 more sot). But you'll get 30% more lagginess
boanhdaytien2 said:
If you rock your phone with that minimal usage, I recommend using ElementalX kernel and LKT magisk modue with battery profile, I'm getting way more battery with this setup compare to stock one (about 4 more sot). But you'll get 30% more lagginess
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I wonder how a custom kernel might help with the WiFi module battery drain. I barely receive any notifications and according to GSam my phone is in deep sleep mode most of the time. There's something else wrong but I've no idea what exactly.
Why does no one post GSam Battery Monitor screenshots?
birdie said:
I wonder how a custom kernel might help with the WiFi module battery drain. I barely receive any notifications and according to GSam my phone is in deep sleep mode most of the time. There's something else wrong but I've no idea what exactly.
Why does no one post GSam Battery Monitor screenshots?
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Cause no one use their phone like you do, and it's pointless to measure your phone for fun.
BTW, as you describe, you may encountering oneplus most famous problem, "super deepsleep". You might wanna turn off battery optimization of your apps which send notification and turn off all advance battery optimization (deep optimization, sleep standby optimization).
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Cause no one use their phone like you do, and it's pointless to measure your phone for fun.
BTW, as you describe, you may encountering oneplus most famous problem, "super deepsleep". You might wanna turn off battery optimization of your apps which send notification and turn off all advance battery optimization (deep optimization, sleep standby optimization).
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Here:
Battery Saver: OFF
Adaptive Battery: OFF
Battery Optimization: Not Optimized Apps: None
Advanced Optimization: Deep Optimization/Sleep Standby Optimization: both OFF (I don't want to enable these two because I'm afraid I will start missing notifications from apps).
Am I missing something?
Edit: what's specially funny is that the guy who posted OnePlus 6 battery optimization guide has the same issue though he doesn't admit it. If you take a look at the screenshots he posted, you'll immediately notice that his WiFi usage is the second worst battery offender after the screen.
I still wonder why almost no one cares.
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So I've been using the Rog 5 for a week or so. I've noticed that ANDROID SYSTEM has a massive battery drain.
No matter which apps I use, wether it's YouTube, Chrome, WhatsApp or any gaming app, Android System always had a massive battery drain. This can't be normal can it?
I installed Better Battery Stats & Gsam Battery Monitor and found that Android System has got many Wakelocks too. I've attached screenshots for this, if anyone could help resolve these Wakelocks that would be amazing. Also if anyone could help to lower the Android System battery drain please.
On the better battery stats you will notice over 500 Wakelocks in 9 Hours ! Over 3 days that number is over 2000 Wakelocks
On my first full charge i have 6hrs screen on time and 40% left still cycling the battery for maximum performance. It would be interesting to see what apps can be disabled safely and any other battery saving tips people have here.
jutley said:
On my first full charge i have 6hrs screen on time and 40% left still cycling the battery for maximum performance. It would be interesting to see what apps can be disabled safely and any other battery saving tips people have here.
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Although that's decent battery life, it CAN and SHOULD be better. I'm using greenify too btw
Not many with the phone yet lol lets wait and see i got almost 9hrs screen on time first charge.
I tested by watching youtube videos with bluetooth connected sometimes and this was my screen on time
i had 8.30h of screen time with the huawei p30 pro 4200mah battery, a little disappointing for a 6000mah battery
jutley said:
Not many with the phone yet lol lets wait and see i got almost 9hrs screen on time first charge.
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That's not bad bud, although android system is definitely draining battery judging by many screenshots
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I tested by watching youtube videos with bluetooth connected sometimes and this was my screen on time
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Only 8 hours???? I got 11 hours with mixed usage, mainly on WiFi, over 2 days, with 9% left. No Bluetooth usage tho. Your battery is concerning
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i had 8.30h of screen time with the huawei p30 pro 4200mah battery, a little disappointing for a 6000mah battery
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That's a good result for the p30. I get around 10 hours on my p40 pro plus. The rog 5 has issues
Thanos88 said:
Only 8 hours???? I got 11 hours with mixed usage, mainly on WiFi, over 2 days, with 9% left. No Bluetooth usage tho. Your battery is concerning
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Dont know whether this is happening only for me. I also tried manual battery calibration by draining the battery and charging till 100 after that i even deleted batterystats.bin file manually. Still 8 or 9 hours max.
Should i change to any other modes in specific? Like i am currently in dynamic mode. Should i tweak into advanced and reduce anything? Or you guys are having a sot of 11 hours in dynamic mode only?
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Dont know whether this is happening only for me. I also tried manual battery calibration by draining the battery and charging till 100 after that i even deleted batterystats.bin file manually. Still 8 or 9 hours max.
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Where's this battery.bin file ? From YouTube you should get way more SOT. Look on gsmarena, YouTube test is north of 13 hours
I use dynamic, auto Refresh rate, GPS, Bluetooth, auto brightness all OFF unless I need them. I use durable mode from 20%
Battery stats.bin file will be in root/system folder.
Thanos88 said:
Where's this battery.bin file ? From YouTube you should get way more SOT. Look on gsmarena, YouTube test is north of 13 hours
I use dynamic, auto Refresh rate, GPS, Bluetooth, auto brightness all OFF unless I need them. I use durable mode from 20%
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Ok bro i will try with location and bluetooth off. I use have them turned on all day
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Battery stats.bin file will be in root/system folder.
Ok bro i will try with location and bluetooth off. I use have them turned on all day
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How do I access the root folder?
Also in location settings make sure you have WiFi scannibg off (it will say 'search for WiFi networks, even when WiFi is turned off') you'll find that in location menu. And if you go to developer options you'll come across something which says "Mobile data always active" turn that off too as it wastes battery for no reason.
Last but not least, go to Zentalk forum, Google it, it's Asus help forum and create a thread on there explaining you have high battery drain from Android System. They will fix it if we all report it
I have unlocked bootloader and rooted my my phone. With Root explorer or any other explorer with root permission you can access the folder.
I will disable that mobile data in developer options.
Thank you
I fully charged to 100% left overnight unplugged network standby took 2.5% and Android system was 0.2% and lost all together a total of 3% battery overnight. I think it needs to sleep better than that.
I updated to latest ww global firmware but mine is tincent version if i factory reset will it still stay on ww firmware? i think i need to do a reset. Also how do you do a hard reset via recovery on this is it safe?
jutley said:
I updated to latest ww global firmware but mine is tincent version if i factory reset will it still stay on ww firmware? i think i need to do a reset. Also how do you do a hard reset via recovery on this is it safe?
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It should lose 0% overnight. Android system is the culprit. No you won't lose WW after hard reset and regarding factory reset, I did it through settings as don't know how to enter recovery
Well unless someone reports it they wont fix it so best people report in as stated above ASAP.
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I have unlocked bootloader and rooted my my phone. With Root explorer or any other explorer with root permission you can access the folder.
I will disable that mobile data in developer options.
Thank you
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Ah okay thx
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Well unless someone reports it they wont fix it so best people report in as stated above ASAP.
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I've already done it. I urge everyone else here too, go to Zentalk and create a thread about rog 5 battery drain and any other tissues you might have. I've mentioned battery life, volte not working and I've asked for a option for 90hz refresh rate.
Hi guys,
as we are approaching nearly 1.5 years since the Pixel 5 was released, I am curious what everyone's Battery Health is.
You can use Accubattery.
BatteryGuru also has it included in their app.
It will take a few charges to get an accurate reading.
I take pretty good care of my battery, by never going below 20% and only gone about 80% maybe 10 times.
I just got Accubattery on my device so I will update where I am in a little bit.
Well since I feel itt'll take a good 4-5 charges before any type of "accurate" measurement is shown, I decided to do a full charge and I'm very happy, I feel like this is at least 90% the capacity still. Right now BatteryGuru is showing 70% but I expect it to *hopefully* go up, since accubattery is showing 85%, but this is only after 1 charge.
Running Android 11 crDroid v7.15
I did 1 full charge (35% => 100%) with AccuBattery, says my battery health is 93% (3 718 mAh / 4 000).
Not bad I guess, for a 16 month old phone which I used to charge regardless to "efficiency rules".
I used stock rom, and rooted couple of months ago. And only recently switched to lineageos 18.1 and elementalx kernel so I can't tell if there's a difference.
I'll take a look at crDroid, but I can't help installing some google stock apps - force of habits.
If I see any significative change after some charging cycles I'll give an update.
Btw are you using a custom kernel?
AnyNameYouWish said:
I did 1 full charge (35% => 100%) with AccuBattery, says my battery health is 93% (3 718 mAh / 4 000).
Not bad I guess, for a 16 month old phone which I used to charge regardless to "efficiency rules".
I used stock rom, and rooted couple of months ago. And only recently switched to lineageos 18.1 and elementalx kernel so I can't tell if there's a difference.
I'll take a look at crDroid, but I can't help installing some google stock apps - force of habits.
If I see any significative change after some charging cycles I'll give an update.
Btw are you using a custom kernel?
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Thanks for posting my friend! That's a great starting point, I hope that it only gets better for you!
I'll upload images from what accubattery and batteryguru are currently showing, now that I have a few charges completed. I hope to see a higher health.. but it could always be worse. I remember my htc 10 bring at like 70% at this point in it's ownership.. though Android wasn't as up-to-date with battery adaptivities.
I used to use ElementalX but since lack of updates for Android 11 I've been pretty happy with crDroid stock kernel. (Though I have used the last update that was out and it ran quite nicely before I moved fully to crDroid. So I may give it a go and see what type of battery I am getting compared to crDroid stock).
CrDroid also comes with PixelGapps installed, which I personally love. So you'll get Pixel launcher, Camera and other Google apps/goodies .
I am not a very patient man, and a few minutes reading about this rom convinced me to try it asap !
Love it so far, I really like the stock experience with easy tweaks possibilities - I also already shared my gratitude and first issues in the main thread
I'll keep stock kernel for a few weeks and share accubattery and batteryguru screenshots here, before giving a try to elementalx kernel and see if there's a difference
This is all stock with root and some modules installed. I received my device in November of the year it was released
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This is all stock with root and some modules installed. I received my device in November of the year it was released
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Dang! That's awesome health! You do anything special?
Mine is down to 87% for some reason.
andybones said:
Dang! That's awesome health! You do anything special?
Mine is down to 87% for some reason.
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Just kept my battery charged between 80% to 20%
90% here. Have the phone almost since launch and accubattery since then. Don't follow the 80% rule too much. I use to follow it religiously but then read a comment somewhere that by following it, you are at 80% health effectively so... it made sense.
ribogushter said:
90% here. Have the phone almost since launch and accubattery since then. Don't follow the 80% rule too much. I use to follow it religiously but then read a comment somewhere that by following it, you are at 80% health effectively so... it made sense.
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So after few weeks I'm 90% on Accubattery and 85% on Batteryguru. I did noticed the stats were pulled down when I charged only to 80%, so I would tend to agree...
andybones said:
I used to use ElementalX but since lack of updates for Android 11 I've been pretty happy with crDroid stock kernel. (Though I have used the last update that was out and it ran quite nicely before I moved fully to crDroid. So I may give it a go and see what type of battery I am getting compared to crDroid stock).
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I installed ElementalX a couple of days ago, I've let it just as it is out of the box, no personnal settings. It seems to be very efficient with battery usage but maybe too much because I don't receive whatsapp calling notifications anymore, only "missed call" once it's too late... gonna take a look on the official topic to check it out.
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So after few weeks I'm 90% on Accubattery and 85% on Batteryguru. I did noticed the stats were pulled down when I charged only to 80%, so I would tend to agree...
I installed ElementalX a couple of days ago, I've let it just as it is out of the box, no personnal settings. It seems to be very efficient with battery usage but maybe too much because I don't receive whatsapp calling notifications anymore, only "missed call" once it's too late... gonna take a look on the official topic to check it out.
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Thanks for posting!
I am at 90% myself actually, and noticed it actually went up from 88% to 90% when I charged it over 80% to 85%.
So maybe with all the new changes and upgrades to batteries, etc, charging to 100% is just fine?
I think it is the charging overnight for more than 8 hours can possibly be harmful.
I think I'll start charging to 90%.
Maybe try adding whatapp to battery optimization, is you haven't already to see if you start getting the notifications.
andybones said:
So maybe with all the new changes and upgrades to batteries, etc, charging to 100% is just fine?
I think it is the charging overnight for more than 8 hours can possibly be harmful.
I think I'll start charging to 90%.
Maybe try adding whatapp to battery optimization, is you haven't already to see if you start getting the notifications.
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Already tried that but thanks for suggestion
About battery, I'm far from being an expert but I think it's still good to charge up to a lower lever eg. 80-90%, in order to preserve battery health and loose less capacity at each cycle. However, in order to properly measure the battery's performance, you'll have to give it a full charge or the stats will be inaccurate, as @ribogushter mentionned.
I would suggest, wipe your Accubattery and/or Batteryguru stats and give your phone a full charge from 20 to 100% and see if it impacts your health score
AnyNameYouWish said:
Already tried that but thanks for suggestion
About battery, I'm far from being an expert but I think it's still good to charge up to a lower lever eg. 80-90%, in order to preserve battery health and loose less capacity at each cycle. However, in order to properly measure the battery's performance, you'll have to give it a full charge or the stats will be inaccurate, as @ribogushter mentionned.
I would suggest, wipe your Accubattery and/or Batteryguru stats and give your phone a full charge from 20 to 100% and see if it impacts your health score
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Darn sorry, wish I knew what else for you to try.
I think I will keep my stats in accubattery as it gets better with time, but I will charge it to 100% and see if it drops, goes up, or just stays the same at 90% health.
Edit: both accubattery and battery guru dropped a bit after charging to 100%.. down from 90% to 88% accubattery, and 89% to 86% battery guru.
I think I will probably do 90% from here-after though, I still think charging all the way to 100% all the time isn't the best, but I really don't know anymore!
I'd like to read more about getting the only 80%, I mean it's just common sense that you get actually only 60% if you run from 80%-20%, but that is charge capacity, not battery health capacity.
I do wish Google/Android had some documentation on this. Even cApple at least has a battery capacity built into its settings, and I saw they have a setting that tells if say the screen was replaced was it done using official cApple products, very good idea actually.
Also how has ElementalX been running?
I decided to flash it and see how it compares to the stock kernel in crDroid_v7.17 (Android 11)
I always loved it when I used it, but it is a little out-dated, (over a year now) but I think it's still fine.
Proton kernel is also really good.
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Darn sorry, wish I knew what else for you to try.
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I think it was becase I enabled data saving, and since I put Whatsapp on the exception list the problem seems to be solved. Once again, the problem was between the chair and the screen ^^
andybones said:
I think I will keep my stats in accubattery as it gets better with time, but I will charge it to 100% and see if it drops, goes up, or just stays the same at 90% health.
Edit: both accubattery and battery guru dropped a bit after charging to 100%.. down from 90% to 88% accubattery, and 89% to 86% battery guru.
I think I will probably do 90% from here-after though, I still think charging all the way to 100% all the time isn't the best, but I really don't know anymore!
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As you said, we probably never will have a 100% effective method to quantify battery health until it's native to Android ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Also how has ElementalX been running?
I decided to flash it and see how it compares to the stock kernel in crDroid_v7.17 (Android 11)
I always loved it when I used it, but it is a little out-dated, (over a year now) but I think it's still fine.
Proton kernel is also really good.
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Really smooth, I'm not experiencing any lags or freeze, or any problem so far and battery life seems to have improved. As a pure rookie, I don't understand what would make a given kernel different or better than the other, so I tried the one that seemed to be the most popular but I noticed only afterward that it hadn't been updated for a while and that the developer is focusing on his apps (he mentioned it on some thread).
Proton kernel's latest update is also almost 1y old, I'll stick with ElementalX until next update or give a try to CleanSlate which seems to be the most active.
Btw, I guess you're using ACC? If so, which charging switch are you using?
Best way to measure your battery is to charge it with an USB tester such as UM24 or UM25 . You can see how much mAH your battery can absorb and calculate the health . Phone needs to be turned off and charged with a regular charger, not fast-charger .
I'm looking for a good benchmark for the battery , i tried Geekbench4 , PC Mark ..do you any other good ones ?
Not that I think it helps I am always on my PC and just charge through the usb-c.
charges pretty fast too, like 45 min.
I may invest into UM24 orUM 25, thanks @arcadekidflo
If you only use usb-c to usb-c you can get TC-66c , from the same company . If you also use regular chargers you can get UM-25c .
AnyNameYouWish said:
I think it was becase I enabled data saving, and since I put Whatsapp on the exception list the problem seems to be solved. Once again, the problem was between the chair and the screen ^^
As you said, we probably never will have a 100% effective method to quantify battery health until it's native to Android ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Really smooth, I'm not experiencing any lags or freeze, or any problem so far and battery life seems to have improved. As a pure rookie, I don't understand what would make a given kernel different or better than the other, so I tried the one that seemed to be the most popular but I noticed only afterward that it hadn't been updated for a while and that the developer is focusing on his apps (he mentioned it on some thread).
Proton kernel's latest update is also almost 1y old, I'll stick with ElementalX until next update or give a try to CleanSlate which seems to be the most active.
Btw, I guess you're using ACC? If so, which charging switch are you using?
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I accidentally charged to 100% again, and health went up in accubattery.
Maybe I will start fully charging..
Oh yea. One thing that helped for me for late notifications is to turn off "Adaptive Notifications"
-- It's been working for me.
some ROMs (such as crDroid) it turns it back back on after every reboot.
I just make a shortcut on my homescreen using Activity Launcher
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If you only use usb-c to usb-c you can get TC-66c , from the same company . If you also use regular chargers you can get UM-25c .
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Many thanks my friend! Very much appreciated.
Mine looks like it's around 94% - ordered it on release day, so about 1.5 years old now.
I've not followed the 20% - 80% rule, most of the time just letting the phone charge fully over night.
Maybe the 20% - 80% doesn't really make any difference?
IMO it's pretty silly to only use a portion of your battery's indicated capacity. The nature of lithium ion batteries is such that both over and undercharging can cause damage, so manufacturers don't actually use 100%, or even 80%, of their full voltage potential. The battery circuitry itself, as well as the phone's power monitor, do a sufficient job of limiting charge and discharge, so its really not necessary to do it yourself. Use your phone as you normally would, but be aware that keeping it charged all the time may reduce battery life.