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Samsung Moment OC'd to 1.06!

You think we can get this on the G1?
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Original Android <3ers! said:
You think we can get this on the G1?
http://bit.ly/cNzpfv
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simple answer: nope

RandumAccess said:
simple answer: nope
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Something ive learned with g1 dev, never say "nope", way to many times stuff which had been said impossible has been done.
But
1) OP do you know what you can over clock your g1 (not to 1 ghz though)
2) whats the full clock speed of the cpu 4 the moment?

asb123 said:
Something ive learned with g1 dev, never say "nope", way to many times stuff which had been said impossible has been done.
But
1) OP do you know what you can over clock your g1 (not to 1 ghz though)
2) whats the full clock speed of the cpu 4 the moment?
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Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Sorry but really? Are you being at all serious?
A processor clocked at 384mhz (g1) being overclocked to over a gig? What you gonna use to keep it cool? Liquid nitrogen?

true that... even at 576 mhz it gets way too hot while using wifi... besides, the phone just locks up when you go over 650 mhz or so. i have tried. i dont think it can handle it.

shadowch31 said:
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Sorry but really? Are you being at all serious?
A processor clocked at 384mhz (g1) being overclocked to over a gig? What you gonna use to keep it cool? Liquid nitrogen?
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Reread what you quoted. He said you can't do that.

ummm... i have mine at 825mhz
its possible, but not yet

bestofrhcp said:
ummm... I have mine at 825mhz
its possible, but not yet
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this guy just treated all of your lives! I love you bestofrhcp!

The thing is the moment runs at 800 Mhz stock so 1006-800= 200 Mhz overclock, or a 25% overclock. Our G1's were built for 385, but I've gotten mine stable up to 729, so an 89% overclock. Granted, the CPU inside the G1 was designed for 528 but HTC underclocked it for battery purposes, so it's only a 38% overclock. The samsung moment has a really crappy samsung chip (pre-hummingbird), but it should be able to squeeze out a few more mhz. I don't have much hope for anything more than 729 on our phones, at least not without an overvolt kernel and some sort of liquid cooling system.

Processor Qualcomm® MSM7201A™, 528 MHz

I am really getting sick of all the overclocking nonsense.
There is MORE TO SPEED THAN CLOCK RATE!!!!
You can clock these CPUs as fast as you want, but the overall effect on performance will be measurably negligible. You may, at most, THINK that it is faster when in fact, it is NOT.

lbcoder said:
I am really getting sick of all the overclocking nonsense.
There is MORE TO SPEED THAN CLOCK RATE!!!!
You can clock these CPUs as fast as you want, but the overall effect on performance will be measurably negligible. You may, at most, THINK that it is faster when in fact, it is NOT.
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Hehe It might be placebo but Raging Thunder 2 is MUCH more playable at 700 Mhz than at 528.
It is true that there is more to speed than clock rate, I'm not going to argue about that. A Core 2 due at 3.3 Ghz doesn't compare to a Core i3 at 2.2 Ghz, since the core i3 has more cores and is a more efficient platform. But a Core i3 at 1.6 Ghz in a netbook won't compare to a Core i3 at 2.4 Ghz in a desktop. Clock speed can make a big difference in performance. You can optimize all you want but using brute force helps out. Of course I only overclock when I want to play some 3D racing games and I'm close to a power source. I usually run it at 352 or 480.

bestofrhcp said:
ummm... i have mine at 825mhz
its possible, but not yet
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Can you cook bacon on it?
1ghz would probably fry the whole motherboard :| What we really need is some ram, which will be no problem when I upgrade.

bestofrhcp said:
ummm... i have mine at 825mhz
its possible, but not yet
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Why would you want to OC that much, I'm sure your battery last all of about 4 hours tops

[Q] OC Experience anyone?

I'm currently running phoenix ultimate w/Tagrak.
It's OC'ed at 1.3 GHz ATM.
It has made a seeming performance change to my phone. But i want to take it further and OC to 1.5 or even 1.6 if possible. After hours of researching, the CPU in the Cappy is capable of running at 1.6 at the fastest.
Does anyone know any APP that will allow you to OC higher than 1.3 GHz? and has OC'ed higher than 1.3?
Thanks a bunch

What kernel are you running? AFAIK the only kernel that supports 1500/1600mhz is Onix, which is the kernel I'm running. Best OC experience I've gotten on the captivate was 1344. I was using Phoenix with the Paragon 1344 kernel.
Once you get Onix, voltage control will let you OC to 1600, but you might not even be able to hit 1400 and stay on for more than 5 mins (my situation)
I'm pretty sure this should be in Q/A, no?

There is already a thread in this section (currently 4 posts down) about this topic.

I've been running a custom oc at 3200mhz stable for 3 days now.

ninjuh said:
I've been running a custom oc at 3200mhz stable for 3 days now.
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3.2ghz?? On what your laptop???

studacris said:
3.2ghz?? On what your laptop???
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no reason the chip cant do that running @ 3volts with dry ice or liquid nitrogen cooling

superasian827 said:
I'm currently running phoenix ultimate w/Tagrak.
It's OC'ed at 1.3 GHz ATM.
It has made a seeming performance change to my phone. But i want to take it further and OC to 1.5 or even 1.6 if possible. After hours of researching, the CPU in the Cappy is capable of running at 1.6 at the fastest.
Does anyone know any APP that will allow you to OC higher than 1.3 GHz? and has OC'ed higher than 1.3?
Thanks a bunch
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the kernel needs to support the different timing modes used. onix will allow up to 1600. to my experience nearly all phones go up to 1200 a vast majority to 1280-1300 im barely stable @1300 myself. but 1344-1400 is the limit with only a few exceptions. every chip is different and i have a feeling the earlier phones had less consistant manufacturing. samsung may also be cherry picking chips that clock better for the galaxy s 2 mini which is supposed to be a hummingbird clocked up to 1400 out of the box.
keep in mind that 30% overclock is significant. if i tried that on my pc it wouldn't run very long.

I can get mine stable at 1.4 using Onix kernel and Serendipity rom. I tried 1.5 and 1.6 but was not able to get it to run.

I've come to the conclusion that OC achieves very little... UV even less.
Sent from my Captivate

Dani897 said:
keep in mind that 30% overclock is significant. if i tried that on my pc it wouldn't run very long.
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My computer has just over a 35% overclock on the CPU...
I went from 2.8 GHz to 3.8 GHz.
Sent from my Captivate

MikeyMike01 said:
My computer has just over a 35% overclock on the CPU...
I went from 2.8 GHz to 3.8 GHz.
Sent from my Captivate
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A ) im guessing not on the cheapo heatsink they sold you with the cpu unless it is one of those "black edition" something or other chips that are marketed towards overclockers
B) i dont see aftermarket heatsinks out there for cell phone processors

Dani897 said:
B) i dont see aftermarket heatsinks out there for cell phone processors
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Just wondering. Is it at all possible to squeeze in an effective heat sink on the captivate? would be an interesting mod to have.

My Cappuccino can run at 1400 stable, but the extra 400 MHz didn't really make a difference.
CM7 Inspire 4G

[q] cpu chipset

does anyone know if setting the CPU SPEED to 1.5 GHz is dangerous while the SENSATION XL has the same chipset as the desire s has (Qualcomm Snapdragon MS8255) and the SENSATION XL's CPU speed is set to 1.5GHz .

sensation has msm8260 (dual core 1.2-1.5 GHz and adreno 220)

Sensation XL indeed has MSM8255.
Just like in PCs, chipsets in phones are binned not only by their type, but also by their target frequency. You don't go overclocking Core2Duo 1.8 GHz to 2.4 GHz because it's "the same CPU", right? Because it isn't the same CPU. The same applies here.

אז זה מסוכן או לא ?

English, please.
Answer - would you run the CPU on your computer at 1.5x the speed it was made to run, because there's CPU with the same name (i3/i5/i7/whatever) that runs at 1.5x the speed?
The same answer applies to your phone.
I expect people to be able to make minimal logic work with their own brains rather than just answering "yes/no". I think that this way people actually understand more than what they've asked for.

i guessed that was the answer but just wanted to be sure...
thanks anyway !

msm8255 should run stable on 1.5GHz (if stock freq is lower)

441Excelsior said:
msm8255 should run stable on 1.5GHz (if stock freq is lower)
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No it won't. It depends on the specific part, and few parts run stock 1.5 GHz without stability issues surfacing / burning out very fast (if overvolted).
If you really want - you can try it on T-Mobile G2, that has MSM8255 of the earliest bin, with stock at 800MHz. Good luck, don't forget to write how did you like a phone as a toaster.
I suggest refraining from bad advice, especially when it's in the forum and it's not your phone you're talking about. You can burn your phones as much as you like, but don't go around suggesting it to others. Just let me understand something: you have stock non-rooted ICS and have no idea about such basics as which guide to use to downgrade, but you allow yourself posting about chipset frequencies?

so which speed can i overclock to that shouldn't turn my device into a toaster ?

deanshugan said:
so which speed can i overclock to that shouldn't turn my device into a toaster ?
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1.2 runs most things with no lag.
Sometimes you're the windshield; sometimes you're the bug.
- Mark Knopfler.

The point is each chip is different even if the same model
What works for me on my device won't necessarily work for you
So test and see if your brave enough, but be aware of the consequences
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium

I overclock my ds to1.5 every time I play games and it doesn't even get warm. So I think it's pretty harmless.
Sent from my Desire S using xda premium

Moto Z clocked @2.15? Naahh... @1.82? Naahh... it's @1.59!!!

Nobody still have discussed it but... our Moto Z XT1650-03 are *really* underclocked!!!
Let's start from the beginning...
First models on marked were the Verizon's Droid version and their SD820 were clocked @2.15 GHz (at least so declared officially Motorola)...
Then came out the unbranded international version and, even if not so "advertized" by Motorola, it's clock was lowered (officially...), to 1.82 GHz. True?
False.
Even if apps like CPU-Z find the CPU able to work between 300 MHz and 1.82 GHz, the real clock frequencies used by Moto Z are in the range 652 MHz - 1.59 GHz!!!
Using root, both my "reference" apps, Antutu CPU Master Pro & FauxClock show this range (652 - 1,59) as used BUT while the lower clock can be lowered to 300 MHz (best setting for longer battery life in my opinion... ), there is NO option to go over 1.59 GHZ at all!!!
From my experience there should be two more setting 1.82 GHZ and, probably, something around @1.7x GHz, but both are unavailable on stock kernel.
So, if @erfanoabdi has really raised clock to real 2.15 GHz in its modified kernel, the difference in performance should be really noticeable! (I don't know about battery life anyway... ).

enetec said:
Nobody still have discussed it but... our Moto Z XT1650-03 are *really* underclocked!!!
Let's start from the beginning...
First models on marked were the Verizon's Droid version and their SD820 were clocked @2.15 GHz (at least so declared officially Motorola)...
Then came out the unbranded international version and, even if not so "advertized" by Motorola, it's clock was lowered (officially...), to 1.82 GHz. True?
False.
Even if apps like CPU-Z find the CPU able to work between 300 MHz and 1.82 GHz, the real clock frequencies used by Moto Z are in the range 652 MHz - 1.59 GHz!!!
Using root, both my "reference" apps, Antutu CPU Master Pro & FauxClock show this range (652 - 1,59) as used BUT while the lower clock can be lowered to 300 MHz (best setting for longer battery life in my opinion... ), there is NO option to go over 1.59 GHZ at all!!!
From my experience there should be two more setting 1.82 GHZ and, probably, something around @1.7x GHz, but both are unavailable on stock kernel.
So, if @erfanoabdi has really raised clock to real 2.15 GHz in its modified kernel, the difference in performance should be really noticeable! (I don't know about battery life anyway... ).
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Hi, let me explain it
If you take look at snapdragon 820 details and tech specs you will see this processor have 4 core and
2 core of them is clockable up to 2.15
And other 2 core is clockable up to 1.5
And you can also check it by kernel adiutor app on your device.
International version of moto z using same hardware as Verizon edition but kernel of them are different and CPU of it underclocked to 1.3 and 1.8 Hz
There is some restrictions for GPU too and I fixed them on my kernel
So don't worry
Use my turboZ or Verizon (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69459891&postcount=205) kernel for better speed and performance

erfanoabdi said:
Hi, let me explain it
If you take look at snapdragon 820 details and tech specs you will see this processor have 4 core and
2 core of them is clockable up to 2.15
And other 2 core is clockable up to 1.5
And you can also check it by kernel adiutor app on your device.
International version of moto z using same hardware as Verizon edition but kernel of them are different and CPU of it underclocked to 1.3 and 1.8 Hz
There is some restrictions for GPU too and I fixed them on my kernel
So don't worry
Use my turboZ or Verizon (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69459891&postcount=205) kernel for better speed and performance
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With turboz kernel 0.7 it never pass 1.59.
Performance are great all most everywhere with elementalX governor. Just some scrolling stuttering. All is fast and no lags.

It's probably because it's reading the speeds of the other 2 cores in the "efficiency" cluster.

enetec said:
Nobody still have discussed it but... our Moto Z XT1650-03 are *really* underclocked!!!
Let's start from the beginning...
First models on marked were the Verizon's Droid version and their SD820 were clocked @2.15 GHz (at least so declared officially Motorola)...
Then came out the unbranded international version and, even if not so "advertized" by Motorola, it's clock was lowered (officially...), to 1.82 GHz. True?
False.
Even if apps like CPU-Z find the CPU able to work between 300 MHz and 1.82 GHz, the real clock frequencies used by Moto Z are in the range 652 MHz - 1.59 GHz!!!
Using root, both my "reference" apps, Antutu CPU Master Pro & FauxClock show this range (652 - 1,59) as used BUT while the lower clock can be lowered to 300 MHz (best setting for longer battery life in my opinion... ), there is NO option to go over 1.59 GHZ at all!!!
From my experience there should be two more setting 1.82 GHZ and, probably, something around @1.7x GHz, but both are unavailable on stock kernel.
So, if @erfanoabdi has really raised clock to real 2.15 GHz in its modified kernel, the difference in performance should be really noticeable! (I don't know about battery life anyway... ).
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So any battery saving experience when you lower the minimum CPU speed to 300MHz?
Is it really running at 300MHz instead of 652MHz?

benson1118 said:
So any battery saving experience when you lower the minimum CPU speed to 300MHz?
Is it really running at 300MHz instead of 652MHz?
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Yes, it seems so. Yes, real 300 MHz...

Hello. I am interested in purchasing this phone but am confused by the different versions and conflicting specs that I see online for each. So certain versions have the faster 2.15GHz processor vs 1.8GHz but lack Band 12 support (I'm on T-Mobile). While the others have Band 12 but have the slower processor? Is that correct; there is no way to have both?

cyborgLIS said:
Hello. I am interested in purchasing this phone but am confused by the different versions and conflicting specs that I see online for each. So certain versions have the faster 2.15GHz processor vs 1.8GHz but lack Band 12 support (I'm on T-Mobile). While the others have Band 12 but have the slower processor? Is that correct; there is no way to have both?
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You can have both by unlocking the bootloader and installing custom roms.

The Marionette said:
You can have both by unlocking the bootloader and installing custom roms.
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So I could purchase either version and use a custom rom to unlock the missing features, i.e. the hardware is identical? Is one route recommended over the other?

cyborgLIS said:
So I could purchase either version and use a custom rom to unlock the missing features, i.e. the hardware is identical? Is one route recommended over the other?
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I think only a specific variant like the Verizon one is in a bs state when it comes to software. Other than that one, you should be "on equal grounds".

Snapdragon 855 plus

Just wondering if the 855 plus is just a overclocked version of the standard 855 and if we can overclock the CPU and mainly GPU to match it?

Yeah, coz the standard 855 is not fast enough, right? Not worth the trouble IMO for a few percent extra speed...

insomnia77 said:
Just wondering if the 855 plus is just a overclocked version of the standard 855 and if we can overclock the CPU and mainly GPU to match it?
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Yes, from what I'm reading 855 and 855+ are the same except for CPU and GPU speeds.
You can use a custom kernel to overclock to the same speeds (if not better).
However, because this phone already runs everything perfectly it might not even be worth it considering unlocking bootloader, wiping data, increased battery drain from the boost, potential issues.
All of my games run at the framerate cap on stock anyway.

Just wanted to know if we still have the most powerful Android phone in the world lol at least until the 865 comes out next year.

Lol, it's still faster than a speeding bullet!

In my opinion, 6GB of Ram + Snapdragon 835 is still handle everything very good (at least for next 1-2 year)! So 855+ is a P.R trick and quite a waste!
By the way, i think the thread is in wrong section, it should be in "Discussion" !

insomnia77 said:
Just wanted to know if we still have the most powerful Android phone in the world lol at least until the 865 comes out next year.
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Well, the first phone with the 855+ AND a software which is efficient like OOS will be very slightly faster than our OP7Pro.

KemikalElite said:
Yes, from what I'm reading 855 and 855+ are the same except for CPU and GPU speeds.
You can use a custom kernel to overclock to the same speeds (if not better).
However, because this phone already runs everything perfectly it might not even be worth it considering unlocking bootloader, wiping data, increased battery drain from the boost, potential issues.
All of my games run at the framerate cap on stock anyway.
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Custom kernels will not allow overclock.
They have moved clock control.

insomnia77 said:
Just wanted to know if we still have the most powerful Android phone in the world lol at least until the 865 comes out next year.
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What does it matter?
Does it do everything you want already that fast? Benchmarks dont make a phone, people need to get out of this mindset fast.

iRhyiku said:
What does it matter?
Does it do everything you want already that fast? Benchmarks dont make a phone, people need to get out of this mindset fast.
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Most don't need 12gb of ram. 3 is enough for most people. Or 256 gb of storage . But it's nice to have the hp under the hood even if you don't use it.

tech_head said:
Custom kernels will not allow overclock.
They have moved clock control.
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Maybe for CPU but you can OC the GPU

tech_head said:
Custom kernels will not allow overclock.
They have moved clock control.
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What is "moved clock control"?
I've never seen a custom kernel that can't overclock.
Did Oneplus change it so that it cannot be overclocked?

insomnia77 said:
Most don't need 12gb of ram. 3 is enough for most people. Or 256 gb of storage . But it's nice to have the hp under the hood even if you don't use it.
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Very true
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KemikalElite said:
What is "moved clock control"?
I've never seen a custom kernel that can't overclock.
Did Oneplus change it so that it cannot be overclocked?
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From what I understand it's not oneplus it's Qualcomm that made it so you can't over clock cpu.

MrPhilo said:
Maybe for CPU but you can OC the GPU
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Oh that's good to know. I prefer GPU clock access anyways .

The 855+ only has a 3% CPU overclock
The GPU overclock is 15% but SmurfKernel can do more than a 30% overclock on our device

3ncrypt3d_Droid said:
Very true
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From what I understand it's not oneplus it's Qualcomm that made it so you can't over clock cpu.
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Correct. It's now in a protected area.

Arden144 said:
The 855+ only has a 3% CPU overclock
The GPU overclock is 15% but SmurfKernel can do more than a 30% overclock on our device
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That's unreal. So many possibilities with this phone!

3dMark with the EX 1.12 kernel 675mhz GPU. I haven't tried with gaming mode though. Score was 5932.

Is it possible OC Snapdragon 855 GPU to match the upcoming 865 ?

Ako.marketing said:
Is it possible OC Snapdragon 855 GPU to match the upcoming 865 ?
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Can't tell until we know the benchmark scores of the 865