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I've only had two phones prior to this but I have always unlocked the boot loader / rooted the device / installed a custom recovery / installed custom ROMS.
I believe with my MOTO X 1st gen this disabled the OTA updates.
Is that the case with the Honor 8? I'm wondering if it is worth it to install TWRP at this point as there seems to be so little in the way of kernels and ROMS.
Would I still be able to use SU or Xposed modules without Root?
What is the best move with this phone?
I have unlocked my bootloader as well as rooted my Honor 8. The only way to get SU and Xposed is by doing both of these procedures(root involves getting TWRP).
As for any Xposed modules, I tried amplify+greenify but instead of getting better battery life, my standby time decreased significantly. I am not sure why, but for some reason my Cell standby was showing to be eating a ton of my battery. Another big problem was that the dialer app would not let me call anyone, it kept crashing whenever I tried to. Both problems were fixed after I managed to get amplify+greenify uninstalled. Currently I am just running YouTube AdAway and MinMinGuard which seem to work fine.
So at this point, is it worth unlocking bootleader, installing TWRP, and rooting your phone? Well if there are certain Xposed modules that you really want then sure, and if there are certain apps you like that require root, then yes go ahead and root your phone. Note that if you try any OTA updates, you will have to remove TWRP as having your phone automatically restart and try to install the update wont work.
Imagine that the Honor 8 receives an update to say, Nougat, what is the pathway to update for someone who has rooted their phone. Will the OTA be able to be flashed if a .zip is provided here? Would we need to flash an entirely new ROM?
This is what I faced with my MOTO X. When Marshmallow came out there was talk... but no one was working on the at phone any longer so was never able to update.
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Imagine that the Honor 8 receives an update to say, Nougat, what is the pathway to update for someone who has rooted their phone. Will the OTA be able to be flashed if a .zip is provided here? Would we need to flash an entirely new ROM?
This is what I faced with my MOTO X. When Marshmallow came out there was talk... but no one was working on the at phone any longer so was never able to update.
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It doesnt matter whether or not your phone is rooted. You will get updates the same way, through OTA. Of course you can find .zip files to flash(although personally I am struggling to get the latest update flashed through TWRP).
The real question is for how long will we be receiving updates? Nougat is pretty much guaranteed with the new EMUI update. Huawei/Honor has promised up to 2 years of updates from what I have heard, but who knows what that actually means. They have also have a "partnership" with XDA, and the phone is decently popular so I am sure there will be a few roms, just not as many as say a OP3.
Why are people trying to flash via TWRP if the OTA updates still work after rooting and unlocking the boot loader?
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Why are people trying to flash via TWRP if the OTA updates still work after rooting and unlocking the boot loader?
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Okay so I just figured it out, but for the OTA update to work after rooting and having a non-stock recovery, you need to go to Settings->Updater->Menu(located on the bottom)->Download latest full package.
The full package is ~1.6GB and the regular update is ~280mb. The full package will work even if you have TWRP installed. But if you want the regular 280mb update, you need to get rid of TWRP and go back to a stock recovery.
Of course you will need to reinstall TWRP and root your phone again after doing this update.
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Okay so I just figured it out, but for the OTA update to work after rooting and having a non-stock recovery, you need to go to Settings->Updater->Menu(located on the bottom)->Download latest full package.
The full package is ~1.6GB and the regular update is ~280mb. The full package will work even if you have TWRP installed. But if you want the regular 280mb update, you need to get rid of TWRP and go back to a stock recovery.
Of course you will need to reinstall TWRP and root your phone again after doing this update.
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I see the full package but I cant click on this, nothing is happened when I click on this.
Nas42O said:
I see the full package but I cant click on this, nothing is happened when I click on this.
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I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean you can see the text "Download latest full package" but it is greyed out? If so please check to see if you arent currently at the latest version. If there is another problem, you might want to try to find a .zip of the full package and flash it that way.
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I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean you can see the text "Download latest full package" but it is greyed out? If so please check to see if you arent currently at the latest version. If there is another problem, you might want to try to find a .zip of the full package and flash it that way.
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Yes , not greyed , but red color , and cant click on this .
I downloaded a full update of B31 about 1.77giga , just copy to the phone and flash it in twrp ?
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Yes , not greyed , but red color , and cant click on this .
I downloaded a full update of B31 about 1.77giga , just copy to the phone and flash it in twrp ?
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The exact latest update that I currently have is FRD-L04C567B150. I am not sure where you got your update but I suggest you just flash back to a complete stock image and try to update again from there.
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The exact latest update that I currently have is FRD-L04C567B150. I am not sure where you got your update but I suggest you just flash back to a complete stock image and try to update again from there.
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its normal , you live in India no ?
i'm live in European country , so update are different .. Last update for us is FRD-L04C432B130
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its normal , you live in India no ?
i'm live in European country , so update are different .. Last update for us is FRD-L04C432B130
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No I am in the US. I am not sure about the EU version, but yes if you can find a .zip update file just put it on your phone and go into TWRP to install it. Might wanna make a backup too and wipe cache too just in case.
So if i download the full package in update and install it, bootloader will still be open? No full wipe? And later i only need to install twrp and root the phone again?
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So if i download the full package in update and install it, bootloader will still be open? No full wipe? And later i only need to install twrp and root the phone again?
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Updating or wiping your phone does not lock the Bootloader. The only way to lock the Bootloader again is by doing it manually yourself.
Yes after doing a full update you will need to reinstall TWRP as it will be replaced with the stock recovery and then re-root your phone again.
Rakeen70210, you sound really confident about doing full updates after rooting. Will these full updates also replace the kernel?
palendrome87 and NAS420 could you guys report back with any success or errors you have flashing full updates?
Where can one download full updates for Honor 8?
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Rakeen70210, you sound really confident about doing full updates after rooting. Will these full updates also replace the kernel?
palendrome87 and NAS420 could you guys report back with any success or errors you have flashing full updates?
Where can one download full updates for Honor 8?
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Seeing as how the full update package was ~1.65GB in size, I think its ok to assume that it replaces everything with the stock Honor 8 image. So yes it will replace the kernel too.
For downloading full updates, the only way I got mine was an OTA directly from the phone itself. Look at my previous comments to see how I got this update. If for some reason you cant update, check if your model is ready for an update. If it is and you cant update, try to flash back to a stock image. You should be able to find one on this site or anywhere else.
Flash stock recovery will lock boot loader ?
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Flash stock recovery will lock boot loader ?
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No, the only way to lock the bootloader is to manually lock it yourself using a similar operation to unlocking it.
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No, the only way to lock the bootloader is to manually lock it yourself using a similar operation to unlocking it.
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I thought the same thing, but after taking the full OTA update my bootloader was locked again. If you want to update I would suggest first making a full backup to the external SD card in TWRP.
Then , its better to download à full update ( update.zip) ,copy to root of the phone , reboot in twrp and flash it ? Anyone already did it ?
hi, i really want to downgrade my S6 to lollipop but i have one of the latest bootloader (DPFX).
Downgrade was perfectly possible when i was on first build of marshmallow, but now, since i upgraded to DPFX bootloader, i have only fails with odin, and bootloops with custom roms...
is there any solution? if only i could flash an older bootloader, then i will be saved.
but if i flash an old bootloader with odin, i have a fail, so i don't know what to do
Some people suggested to me to use an old TWRP backup and i found it on my pc (with all partitions files: bootloader,system,radio and data, but i didn't use data) but using it, it's the same of flashing a custom rom: bootloop, and i suspect that the old bootloader never was flashed.
help
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hi, i really want to downgrade my S6 to lollipop but i have one of the latest bootloader (DPFX).
Downgrade was perfectly possible when i was on first build of marshmallow, but now, since i upgraded to DPFX bootloader, i have only fails with odin, and bootloops with custom roms...
is there any solution? if only i could flash an older bootloader, then i will be saved.
but if i flash an old bootloader with odin, i have a fail, so i don't know what to do
Some people suggested to me to use an old TWRP backup and i found it on my pc (with all partitions files: bootloader,system,radio and data, but i didn't use data) but using it, it's the same of flashing a custom rom: bootloop, and i suspect that the old bootloader never was flashed.
help
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If you are on a newer mm bootloader then downgrading to lollipop is not possible
sofir786 said:
If you are on a newer mm bootloader then downgrading to lollipop is not possible
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I knew this, but i want to know if there is a way, a not official way, like reinstalling bootloader in a forced way that doesn't care about security problems... this thing has no sense.... why totally prevent to downgrade? However, i thing it's NORMALLY impossible, but not
TOTALLY impossible
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I knew this, but i want to know if there is a way, a not official way, like reinstalling bootloader in a forced way that doesn't care about security problems... this thing has no sense.... why totally prevent to downgrade? However, i thing it's NORMALLY impossible, but not
TOTALLY impossible
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As far as I know if you're on a newer bootloader official or not there is no current method to downgrade. Maybe a phone shop has specialist equipment to do this but that's me taking a shot in the air
I was able to downgrade but not because i wanted, i flashed a corrupt firmware with ODIN and i have to do an emergency recovery with Smart Switch, my carrier doesn't have Marshmallow on the S6 so my phone restored in Lollipop
Hi! I'm really humbly sorry, I'm new to this stuff, so I have to ask you...
I have a Galaxy S8+ Duos (SM-GD955FD). I bricked it once or twice trying to root it. So I had to flash a sammobile.com ROM...
Now this is done, I have a successfully rooted phone with with the Baseband version G955FXU1AQH3 and the irritating "security notice" (since I was not able to install Magisk, and the NotifyClean app doesn't work either).
I would like to flash the latest Oreo and root it. I also heard good things about the Oreo ROM by alexega.
So: I'm on AQH3 rooted. What can I do?
Thank you for your patience.
If wou want to install stock ROM you must follow this instructions: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/how-to/guide-how-to-flash-crap-using-odin-t3748555. Bear in mind that if you install stock due to security issues you can't unlock OEM for 7 days after flashing (you must not reboot your phone for 170 hours).
If wou want to flash a custom rom you must have TWRP installed, move the zip rom to your SD card and just flash it from recovery. Make sure to format data before flashing.
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If wou want to install stock ROM you must follow this instructions: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/how-to/guide-how-to-flash-crap-using-odin-t3748555. Bear in mind that if you install stock due to security issues you can't unlock OEM for 7 days after flashing (you must not reboot your phone for 170 hours).
If wou want to flash a custom rom you must have TWRP installed, move the zip rom to your SD card and just flash it from recovery. Make sure to format data before flashing.
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Nice, thank you. So I have just flashed the thing with the sammobile.com ROM again (so, no root) and updated to the oroginal firmware Oreo following your link (I worked parallel).
I was just about to root Oreo and was googling for a way... But did I get you right? I should not reboot my phone for 170 hours now?!? So, no rooting until next week?!
Edit: I have developer options enabled and the "OEM unlock" switch is on (it says: "Bootloader is already unlocked.""). So... confusion...
andifla852 said:
Nice, thank you. So I have just flashed the thing with the sammobile.com ROM again (so, no root) and updated to the oroginal firmware Oreo following your link (I worked parallel).
I was just about to root Oreo and was googling for a way... But did I get you right? I should not reboot my phone for 170 hours now?!? So, no rooting until next week?!
Edit: I have developer options enabled and the "OEM unlock" switch is on (it says: "Bootloader is already unlocked.""). So... confusion...
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Excuse me, are you currently on Nougat 7.0? If so, you obviously have OEM unlock option available. The problem is in the new 8.0 stock rom, wich sets RMM state to pre-normal preventing you to flash TWRP and to get root in OREO. To skip that you can directly flash a custom rom with 8.0.- Otherwise (stock rom) you must wait 7 days with no phone reboot to get ridd of that pre-normal issue and then flash TWRP and flash Magisk.
Just rooted the new Oreo ROM with TWRP. Works just fine, thank you.
So, what are the advantages of the Oreo ROM by alexega compared to XXU1CRAP?
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Excuse me, are you currently on Nougat 7.0? If so, you obviously have OEM unlock option available. The problem is in the new 8.0 stock rom, wich sets RMM state to pre-normal preventing you to flash TWRP and to get root in OREO. To skip that you can directly flash a custom rom with 8.0.- Otherwise (stock rom) you must wait 7 days with no phone reboot to get ridd of that pre-normal issue and then flash TWRP and flash Magisk.
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Hi Jose. I am with stock nogat. Not root. Any advice for flash stock oreo firmware?
Allrey know about odin. Im talking about unlock options, etc.
Thks
Juan from Argentina.
juange said:
Hi Jose. I am with stock nogat. Not root. Any advice for flash stock oreo firmware?
Allrey know about odin. Im talking about unlock options, etc.
Thks
Juan from Argentina.
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Just follow the steps from the link in my previous repply. As it's an original software, it won't trip knox or void your warantee.
hi, does anybody knows how to install the oreo firmware using odin but without changing the csc I already have?
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Excuse me, are you currently on Nougat 7.0? If so, you obviously have OEM unlock option available. The problem is in the new 8.0 stock rom, wich sets RMM state to pre-normal preventing you to flash TWRP and to get root in OREO. To skip that you can directly flash a custom rom with 8.0.- Otherwise (stock rom) you must wait 7 days with no phone reboot to get ridd of that pre-normal issue and then flash TWRP and flash Magisk.
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Do you need a custom rom to not have the RMM lock anymore? A stock with BlackMesa's RMM START .zip is not right?
costafabiof said:
Do you need a custom rom to not have the RMM lock anymore? A stock with BlackMesa's RMM START .zip is not right?
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There's no need to have a custom rom, if you flash the fix in stock RMM lock gets killed everytime.
josegon30 said:
There's no need to have a custom rom, if you flash the fix in stock RMM lock gets killed everytime.
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Did not work.
I can not find out where I went wrong.
developer11 said:
Android.com.pl **** you
Little cocksucker
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Translation?
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Did not work.
I can not find out where I went wrong.
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First you have to install OREO and wait 7 days without reseting your phone. After 170 hours, you get OEM unlock in developer options and you will be able to flasf TWRP. After flashing TWRP you flash RMM-State_Bypass_Mesa and that´s all.
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First you have to install OREO and wait 7 days without reseting your phone. After 170 hours, you get OEM unlock in developer options and you will be able to flasf TWRP. After flashing TWRP you flash RMM-State_Bypass_Mesa and that´s all.
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That did not work out. But thank you for your attention.
hey guys
i tried to update my mate 8. was on b581 and would like to update it to 582. i used an stock-like fw with magisk root and k-settings.
first i tried to flash the stock rom, to simply update the firmware over ota. ended with an error.
then i flashed twrp and did (yes, im an idiot xD) an format data.
now i didnt know, what i can flash to get the stock firmware back... at my point, i have twrp and no system.
thanks a lot for any help
Hello,
I am attempting to downgrade from Android 8 to 7 on Galaxy S7. When I attempt to flash the old firmware I get the error 'Device 3 - Binary 2'. Does anyone know if there is a workaround for this yet?
DannySB1 said:
Hello,
I am attempting to downgrade from Android 8 to 7 on Galaxy S7. When I attempt to flash the old firmware I get the error 'Device 3 - Binary 2'. Does anyone know if there is a workaround for this yet?
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Odin will not let you flashback to a previous boot loader version, you have to do it through TWRP. So either flash the nougat firmware with TWRP first or any nougat based rom, then flash nougat via odin which will remove root and TWRP.
cooltt said:
Odin will not let you flashback to a previous boot loader version, you have to do it through TWRP. So either flash the nougat firmware with TWRP first or any nougat based rom, then flash nougat via odin which will remove root and TWRP.
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Are there any instructions for this?
Will secure apps (Banking etc) work again after removing root?
I was under the impression you could via Odin if OEM unlock was enabled, without needing TWRP or root. https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/guide-how-to-downgrade-android-oreo-8-0-t3821495
edit: As for banking, if you go root then flash back to stock you should have no issues. Even if you stay root, things like Magisk will hide root status from apps and pass safetynet. Your biggest issue would be the loss of Knox, which voids warranty and breaks some Samsung apps.
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I was under the impression you could via Odin if OEM unlock was enabled, without needing TWRP or root. https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/guide-how-to-downgrade-android-oreo-8-0-t3821495
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It is not possible as per some of the replies to that thread. I spent a few hours playing TWRP yesterday and it was not possible either.
DannySB1 said:
It is not possible as per some of the replies to that thread. I spent a few hours playing TWRP yesterday and it was not possible either.
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Ok so listen, it can be done as i said but it's not easy. The choice you have of course before attempting this is to just install a android 7 custom ROM? many nougat ROMs are just stock with the bloatware removed and the boot-loader version isn't checked during flash.
Here's another way to go back, i can't guarantee it will work though i haven't tried it on an S7.
Downgrade to an older firmware with an older bootloader even if one keeps the newer bootloader on his device.
So what's how's it done?
Download the firmware file (.tar) which you want to downgrade to and open it with an archiver application (7zip). Extracts all the files to a folder and repacks them again in a .tar file but leaving every file out which ends in .bin (e.g. sboot.bin etc.). This .tar file can now be flashed like any other firmware file via Odin and it should run through it without any problems.
Hope this helps.
plz tell me how to downgrade i upgraded my phone to oreo now there's no network i need to downgrade back to marshmellow i also installed marshmellow but it stuck on samsung bootloop plz help me
Bipnbarsha said:
plz tell me how to downgrade i upgraded my phone to oreo now there's no network i need to downgrade back to marshmellow i also installed marshmellow but it stuck on samsung bootloop plz help me
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What device? What firmware? What Rom?
S7 edge on oreo and stock rom my network was working fine on marshmellow but after oreo update my mobile network not working unfortunatly my binary has been updated before update i back up everything with twrp but now when i restore using twrp my phone stuck on samsung logo plz help mee
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cooltt said:
Ok so listen, it can be done as i said but it's not easy. The choice you have of course before attempting this is to just install a android 7 custom ROM? many nougat ROMs are just stock with the bloatware removed and the boot-loader version isn't checked during flash.
Here's another way to go back, i can't guarantee it will work though i haven't tried it on an S7.
Downgrade to an older firmware with an older bootloader even if one keeps the newer bootloader on his device.
So what's how's it done?
Download the firmware file (.tar) which you want to downgrade to and open it with an archiver application (7zip). Extracts all the files to a folder and repacks them again in a .tar file but leaving every file out which ends in .bin (e.g. sboot.bin etc.). This .tar file can now be flashed like any other firmware file via Odin and it should run through it without any problems.
Hope this helps.
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Hey man, can you please explain this better ? Im using a galaxy s7 edge, but my firmware doesnt have a TAR file. there are 4 .md5 files (AP,BL,CP,CSC) that are flashable through odin. I want to downgrade bootloader
laurentiudll said:
Hey man, can you please explain this better ? Im using a galaxy s7 edge, but my firmware doesnt have a TAR file. there are 4 .md5 files (AP,BL,CP,CSC) that are flashable through odin. I want to downgrade bootloader
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Hello that method no longer works, you can't downgrade anymore
cooltt said:
Hello that method no longer works, you can't downgrade anymore
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I can downgrade to 14.1 Lineage OS.
Edit: There is no way do downgrade the official firmware