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Is sending personal information the Chinese communist regime? With all these Cloud options MIUI is offering... When Google has plenty of options for Cloud software for the android platform. You don't see HTC doing this kind of stuff with Sense is all I'm saying.
Then don't use miui if that's,how you feel about it ......just saying.
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I can't even get the registration to work to setup an account for backup, so they gots nada from me.
MIUI is being open sourced, if you think it's spying on you look in the code and see. It wouldn't really be that different from an official google rom, where you KNOW they're spying on you.
FirstNoobToBrickHisPhone said:
Is sending personal information the Chinese communist regime? With all these Cloud options MIUI is offering... When Google has plenty of options for Cloud software for the android platform. You don't see HTC doing this kind of stuff with Sense is all I'm saying.
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Are you from Taiwan then ??
Or genuinely serious?!??!
I love conspiracy theorists, always good for a laugh!
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You could stay off the grid completely and be relatively hidden and safe, so long as you are also secretly employed, secretly housed, not paying tax, getting paid cash, not travelling on commercial flights, avoiding security cameras and not calling the same phone number more than once a month.
Or you can commit yourself with any of the following: An address, telephone number, bank account, credit card, Internet connection, Email address, Google or YouTube account, MSN account, FaceBook account or Twitter account.
If that isn't `microchip' enough for you, you could by an iPhone (Identity phone) or many other phones which you need to use a credit card to buy.
You might go for something simple. Or you might feel the need to have front and rear facing cameras (to be seen), 3 microphones with noise cancelling (to be heard), gyroscope (to see if you are dead or you move), temperature detection (coming soon), GPS (for global positioning), NFC (for exact positioning), Batteries and sim cards (which can't be removed), ...
If that still seems OK and you feel like a mysteriously protected person who would never need to worry about being influenced, taken advantage of or treated like a consumer, then you could get a phone with an operating system designed by a company running the largest personal database in the world.
Add onto that they decided to call their Operating System, ..er..
What is it called again?
Sleep well.
Hello guys, this is a small article cum question thread. After reading please give me your views.
When we buy a phone and we start with our gmail id.
They forcefully sync all data, even the gallery (picasa).
I mean why is Google entering in our life so much..
They have every single detail. Contact , location, whereabouts, preferences, taste, when we get up/ sleep...
Every single data is with Google.
Now Google glass... Its too much interference...
I feel like being spy by a person name Google. Prove me wrong, I will be glad.
Before Android, I had Nokia phone. I never felt being spy every time.
I have spend lots of money on my Android phone but im feeling insecured every moment.
Why Google force all to sync the data/ why Google wants to enter in everyon's life?
Are we purchasing Android phones for being monitored 24x7?
Let me know your views too..
Thank you.
Disclaimer:
I am not an apple fan. I have shared experience and beyond this I don't have intension to degrade the goodwill of gaint Google.
Supporting links for this thread
http://m.firstpost.com/tech/how-to-stop-googlefbspyingyou-220138.html?page=1
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=imbkac40t38&desktop_uri=/watch?v=imbkac40t38
Endless....
We've all heard about the "big brother". Before the TV reality shows there was only books and stories about it, there were wars for power and world dominance. May be my words are too strong, but think about it - there are strong arguments in DBZo07's post, don't you think?
Google may be one of the reasons for the next World War. I am sure that there will be one - all of the major civilizations before us have disappeared for various reasons, most of them connected with war and the will of dominance. We will wipe ourselfs too or will become "human androids".
I think that we should think about what will be the next kind of terrorism? I doubt it will be for petrol, gold, money... it will be about information, communication, privacy - and Google are getting even more and more into our life, as DBZo07 have observed. It was only 8 years ago when for most of us smartphones were a joke and look now - hybrids, phonepads, padphones, tablets, docking stations, virtual HDD's (cloud storage)... Now can you leave without Viber, skype, facebook, gmail? No, you can't and if you could you will be searching for better replacements.
When you put all of the things it really seems too much. What if someone uses the information we share virtually each day? What if someone wants more than just money to share or store our information or to communicate with each other? Now they want our money, but tomorrow?
May be someone will want more from us tomorrow... may be we will start to sync our dreams for more efficient sleep time.
Or probably my arguments are nonsense and no one will let these thing happen. I hope so and I believe so - you should believe too
Yes it is bad, but just do like everybody disliking this state, deactivate all you can that allow google to "follow" you.
At the end, androïd is not linux, androïd is "google is watching you OS", so make all you can to hide yourself.
Maybe one day, we'll have a "pure" linux system for smartphones.
@mutha88 : that's what , we are forced to believe Google like God. Turning off auto sync may ease our mind. But still who knows about which data is being snatched with our data plan on all times in the very owned OS of Google. I still can appreciate Microsoft Windows, which is carring on from years after years still there is sense of personal private life being secured.
No doubt Google is an award winning innovative company but why getting personal to the extent of choking privacy.
On other hand, consumers are least concern about privacy now a days. Very trusted Microsoft is trying hard to penetrate phones and data stealer Google is having large pie of market share. It is we who made Google survive and in return we have loss of privacy.
@BombinBasta : yeah, but for development of any OS needs finance. Linux is free open source, hardly people donate. And Microsoft has enough money to carry on their development. Apple already charges too high for thier devices. Whereas Google... makes money from phones, market, various products and who knows what they make from every details of their users.
Seriously, as i heard from childgood that evil ends when they cross thier limits... will there be end of Google anyways!!! I wonder.
May be I'm wrong but their are no proper justifications from Google for interference.
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u cant be free of data collection by google...
even if u never sync ur data and use internet on ur android(even if it a vanila AOSP android ) there is code in that to give the data to google.
in todays age of information technology....information/data is everything...WHO HOLDS THE DATA...HOLDS THE POWER TO RULE THE WORLD...
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@mutha88 : that's what , we are forced to believe Google like God. Turning off auto sync may ease our mind. But still who knows about which data is being snatched with our data plan on all times in the very owned OS of Google. I still can appreciate Microsoft Windows, which is carring on from years after years still there is sense of personal private life being secured.
No doubt Google is an award winning innovative company but why getting personal to the extent of choking privacy.
On other hand, consumers are least concern about privacy now a days. Very trusted Microsoft is trying hard to penetrate phones and data stealer Google is having large pie of market share. It is we who made Google survive and in return we have loss of privacy.
@BombinBasta : yeah, but for development of any OS needs finance. Linux is free open source, hardly people donate. And Microsoft has enough money to carry on their development. Apple already charges too high for thier devices. Whereas Google... makes money from phones, market, various products and who knows what they make from every details of their users.
Seriously, as i heard from childgood that evil ends when they cross thier limits... will there be end of Google anyways!!! I wonder.
May be I'm wrong but their are no proper justifications from Google for interference.
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You act like Microsoft doesnt do the same thing. When ever you use any of their programs it is the same. Privacy is a moot point if you use the internet for anything. You would be amazed how many times your personal info is used. Use a Shopping card to get discounts? Tracked. Use a CC for anything? Tracked. Buy anything on line? Tracked. Use any social networks? Yup tracked again.
It is not just Google. If you trust MS so much then why not get a WP?
k2wl said:
u cant be free of data collection by google...
even if u never sync ur data and use internet on ur android(even if it a vanila AOSP android ) there is code in that to give the data to google.
in todays age of information technology....information/data is everything...WHO HOLDS THE DATA...HOLDS THE POWER TO RULE THE WORLD...
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This information again shocking.. will there be a respect for privacy is a big question..
Is there any way that code being blocked ...
zelendel said:
You act like Microsoft doesnt do the same thing. When ever you use any of their programs it is the same. Privacy is a moot point if you use the internet for anything. You would be amazed how many times your personal info is used. Use a Shopping card to get discounts? Tracked. Use a CC for anything? Tracked. Buy anything on line? Tracked. Use any social networks? Yup tracked again.
It is not just Google. If you trust MS so much then why not get a WP?
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My bad.. Microsoft still a good sided. I'm not promoting Microsoft but everybody have used Windows and this hunger for data wasn't found, maybe Microsoft is too smart to do silently but there is a chance that it may or may not be true. Google openly does all stealing I mean who is going to held them!! We the users are just watching being used all time.
When I took Android , i wasn't aware of Google's hunger for information..
In the end, everyone is happy without Google's justifications...
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I would like to point out that you are under no compulsion to connect an android phone to a Google account. You only need to connect your account if you want to avail of their services such as Play Store, syncing contacts, etc. If you can do without them, then by all means you can disconnect your Google account.
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sidthegreatest said:
I would like to point out that you are under no compulsion to connect an android phone to a Google account. You only need to connect your account if you want to avail of their services such as Play Store, syncing contacts, etc. If you can do without them, then by all means you can disconnect your Google account.
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I completely agree...
As for me I don't like Google's spying so I uninstalled all their apps, including network location and Google framework service, and I use alternative apps for gtalk or Google play. And recently I even made a new email at Yahoo's. I know Yahoo spies as well, but since android is Google at least I don't put all my eggs in the same basket.
If like me you are very privacy concerned there are ways to cut the abusive permissions most apps use.
You need to be rooted, and then use apps like appsettings (in conjunction with xposer app), permissions denied, rom toolbox, greenify, privacy blocker, and the best (but unfortunately not available for all roms) : pdroid and its variants like open pdroid and the like.
For example, recently I downloaded the Yahoo app. Before to start using it I put it through privacy blocker and then changed the imei value and other nosy informations with fake values (thank you privacy blocker and respect to xeudoxus its developer). Then I opened appsettings and blocked other unwanted permissions (thank you rovo and tungstwenty, respect). Finally I started to use it, and when I'm done checking my mails I greenify (thank you oasisfeng and respect) the app to avoid background usage.
Of course when one does such things one doesn't get notifications as soon as a new message arrives, but as for me I don't care since I don't need, and don't want, to be connected and hence spied, 24 hours a day.
It's relatively easy to get rid of the spying, but of course you will loose 2-3 features.
It's up to you...
I did the same with my browsers (opera mini and dolphin), privacy blocker+ appsettings+greenify, and with Mozilla I use an add-on called self destructing cookies.
Another thing is that not only Google spies on us, actually everyone does.
Just have a look at the permissions used by your system (default) applications, it's insane moreover that when one blocks those abusive permissions the apps still work. Don't think that it would be any better with a custom room, it's exactly the same story with cyanogen mode or aosp or pa etc.
What I do is that I remove most system apps (keeping like 10 for my tab, and 20 something on my phone, which means that I uninstall over 100 system apps, exactly 160 on my tab's recent jb upgrade) and replace them with third party apps that are easier to control and whose permissions are easier to block. And of course I block everything I can, system and user apps alike.
One of these days when I have time I'll write a more precise guide on these matters...
unclefab said:
I completely agree...
As for me I don't like Google's spying so I uninstalled all their apps, including network location and Google framework service, and I use alternative apps for gtalk or Google play. And recently I even made a new email at Yahoo's. I know Yahoo spies as well, but since android is Google at least I don't put all my eggs in the same basket.
If like me you are very privacy concerned there are ways to cut the abusive permissions most apps use.
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One of these days when I have time I'll write a more precise guide on these matters...
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Sir, this is what I wanted to know. Thank you very much for your valuable time and experience shared here. I know this is serious concern and people like us need a way to be have a sound sleep without virtual spies.
About permissions, Google chrome takes permission to use camera and mic without and command by user.. I mean why Google needs it...again another why...
Your reply was very helpful, thank you...
keep updated me here when you can...
Stay blessed..
DBZo07 said:
Sir, this is what I wanted to know. Thank you very much for your valuable time and experience shared here. I know this is serious concern and people like us need a way to be have a sound sleep without virtual spies.
About permissions, Google chrome takes permission to use camera and mic without and command by user.. I mean why Google needs it...again another why...
Your reply was very helpful, thank you...
keep updated me here when you can...
Stay blessed..
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My pleasure, I'm happy if I could help you...
Google chrome is one of the worst browser when it comes to privacy. If you want to keep on using it try to block the unwanted permissions like camera and mike with appsettings. The problem is that sometimes apps crash after having their perms blocked, and in this case what I do is just uninstalling and looking for another one that does the same job, fortunately there is no shortage of apps on the web
If you can't manage to tame Google chrome just use Mozilla. It has some abusive perms as well but they can be disabled for sure (I use it). Not with appsettings though but with permissions denied (another privacy app, quite powerful but one has to use it with care).
Just get the apps I recommended in my first post (some are paid but they are well worth the money) and start playing with them, in no time you will regain your privacy.
And uninstall as many system apps as you can...
Good luck!
Oh, I nearly forgot! Read my post in the following link, it tells which apps are safe to remove for the galaxy grand:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39395506
They anonymize all of the usage data as much as possible. If you don't like using Google services but still want to be able to download apps from the Play Store, go into Settings -> Accounts -> your Google account(s) -> uncheck all of the boxes for syncing various services.
Every company collects information on usage in order to better their products and find out how people are using them. They're not reading all of your emails (yes, their computers scan them to show you relevant text ads, but that's all) or coming to your house to film you while you're in the shower. You guys are overreacting. There is not one company who doesn't collect usage data. And if they don't, then they're doing it wrong, because they're developing their products and services blindly. Google is pretty clear about their data collection policies.
unclefab said:
My pleasure, I'm happy if I could help you...
Google chrome is one of the worst browser when it comes to privacy. If you want to keep on using it try to block the unwanted permissions like camera and mike with appsettings. The problem is that sometimes apps crash after having their perms blocked, and in this case what I do is just uninstalling and looking for another one that does the same job, fortunately there is no shortage of apps on the web
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You do realize that Chrome has the Microphone permission so that it can hear you when you use voice search, among other things, right? Your computer browser can also access your webcam and microphone...
I care about privacy as well, but you guys are wearing tinfoil hats. Google does not care about you. They just want to know how to further develop their products.
Product F(RED) said:
You do realize that Chrome has the Microphone permission so that it can hear you when you use voice search, among other things, right? Your computer browser can also access your webcam and microphone...
I care about privacy as well, but you guys are wearing tinfoil hats. Google does not care about you. They just want to know how to further develop their products.
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Of course I know that this perm is for the voice search, an app that I don't use either.
And I know that in 2013 it's not such a big deal if those big companies collect data about us, apart from spamming us with advs.
But I don't know how it will be in 10 our 20 years, and when I see the way our "democracies" go I rather understand now how to make myself invisible, better to prevent than to cure.
Imagine if Hitler had had this technology...
Those days are gone? I don't think so, the Yankees had Bush for eight years, the French had Sarkozy for five years, they were not modern Hitler but they were going in the same direction, cutting rough in the people's freedom.
They didn't go as far as Hitler but who knows what will happen in the next decades. I'm 44 and since the 90 ies I've seen a worrying drift towards less and less freedom, and it won't get any better for sure, it will only get worse.
Anyway, it's not only about this, it's about those apps using my data plan without asking, depleting my phone's battery and slowing my ram. If Google wants infos he has to pay for it, and I have to agree to sell him those infos.
Cuz my phone didn't come for free, I had to pay for it and I don't see why I should use my data plan to help big Google and co...
unclefab said:
Of course I know that this perm is for the voice search, an app that I don't use either.
And I know that in 2013 it's not such a big deal if those big companies collect data about us, apart from spamming us with advs.
But I don't know how it will be in 10 our 20 years, and when I see the way our "democracies" go I rather understand now how to make myself invisible, better to prevent than to cure.
Imagine if Hitler had had this technology...
Those days are gone? I don't think so, the Yankees had Bush for eight years, the French had Sarkozy for five years, they were not modern Hitler but they were going in the same direction, cutting rough in the people's freedom.
They didn't go as far as Hitler but who knows what will happen in the next decades. I'm 44 and since the 90 ies I've seen a worrying drift towards less and less freedom, and it won't get any better for sure, it will only get worse.
Anyway, it's not only about this, it's about those apps using my data plan without asking, depleting my phone's battery and slowing my ram. If Google wants infos he has to pay for it, and I have to agree to sell him those infos.
Cuz my phone didn't come for free, I had to pay for it and I don't see why I should use my data plan to help big Google and co...
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It's more like, "by using the software on this phone, you agree to Google's data collection policies." Either create your own ROM that doesn't include the code, or don't use the phone. You could go to Apple and use an iPhone, but they do the same thing. Microsoft does the same thing with Windows Phone. Palm did the same with WebOS. Seriously, there's nowhere you can go where anonymous data isn't collected to develop products.
I am glad that there are few more people who take their privacy seriously and knowledgeable enough to know what happening inside phones.
I strongly believe that this topic needs mass exposure. Millions of innocent people don't know what's happening and the risks. Take this topic to social networks and spread. For my part I will post this thread link on Facebook, Twitter and WhatsApp.
I would also wish that some of our great developers would come forward and help in this matter.
Thanks for starting this thread.
I knew people will feel thus topic as paranoid. But that's preference.
No problem, speak against topic or support this topic, you will help other members have clear picture of what I want to say. After all critics have role to play too. So thanks to all.
@unclefab thank you for your comment which helped me get my words meaningful.
@silentvisitor that's what I had planned to get the topic wide exposure. Hope, there will be respect for privacy oneday.
Revolutionary changes are required and that can be just hoped.
The only hope I can see is that when the country itself recognises this as an issue than it can impact on world... more and more country joins the cause the stronger will be the impact.
These are just hopes and how future will play that God knows.
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Product F(RED) said:
It's more like, "by using the software on this phone, you agree to Google's data collection policies." Either create your own ROM that doesn't include the code, or don't use the phone. You could go to Apple and use an iPhone, but they do the same thing. Microsoft does the same thing with Windows Phone. Palm did the same with WebOS. Seriously, there's nowhere you can go where anonymous data isn't collected to develop products.
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Yep, true, and actually Apple is worse.
What I don't like, beside the fact that they hijack my connection, my battery and my ram (and I mean, not only Google but most apps), is that they create files about us. It's ok as long as we have a democracy but as I previously said I'm not very optimistic about democracy in the future, remember the infamous patriot act in the States...
For example, Google knows that mister uncle fab has a gmail account. It knows as well that uncle fab goes on this and that website and reads this or that page, buys this and that online, has this and that app on his phone, goes here or there (thank you GPS and Google now) and stops here or there, listens to this or that kind of music, watches this or that movie, takes this and that picture and so on.
Eventually they have a file about uncle fab, and know a lot about his life and his taste.
Suppose now that uncle fab is a commie and someone who disagrees with the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, and that he's a muslim who has traveled to some of the so called axe of evil countries (which I did by the way, that's why I take this example, but fear not for I'm no terrorist )
What would happen? If uncle fab lives in the States he may be in serious trouble and get invited to a nice all included stay in Guantanamo, eventhough he's not a terrorist.
Well that's just an example but seriously, what happens with all those files they gather about people? Not to mention facebook, you know what I mean, their data base is huge and includes pictures.
What will they do with those files in the event of the government turning fascist or half fascist?
I'm not a terrorist but I have some convictions and some ideas that would make me a bad guy for a fascist regime and that would bring me to jail.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a bad guy
But, amongst others, I seriously dislike the State's foreign policy and sincerely think that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are crimes against mankind that should bring their authors (Bush and his friends) in front of the international court. I do think as well that endeavors like wikileaks are very good ones and that their informants shouldn't be trialled.
I do think other things as well, it's my right, but under the Bush administration I would have been called a bad American and if they had caught me I would have won a free stay in Guantanamo.
During the Mac Carthy area I would have been called a commie because of my anti capitalistic ideas and would have been sent to jail.
Etc, etc...
So eventhough I'm not a bad guy I rather stay as invisible as I can, no-one knows what will happen in the future but from my point of view it looks pretty grim to say the last.
Regarding your remark about building my own Rom I agree, it's on my list of to do things.
But let's see first how the Mozilla os goes, and if the devs behind the Linux on android project manage to make it work properly for a daily use.
At the end of the day it's a matter of choice as you said, if someone doesn't like Google one can uninstall its apps.
You know, I spent hours playing with the apps I mentioned in my previous posts and I can say that no app knows my imei or my location, and that the only apps I allowed to connect with the internet are my browsers and the Yahoo app whose abusive perms I blocked.
Of course the browsers know my ip but that's all they know and I don't care about it, and if one day I did then I would use a vpn app or tor/orbot.
So I don't see how anyone could squeeze any data from me...
Oh, I just found this on the forum, give it a read:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/say-sayonara-to-the-play-store-part-1/
If you want privacy, go move to a rainforest in South America or something. Get rid of your phone, computer, internet connection, etc. What you guys are asking for is ridiculous. You want free products handed to you on a silver platter. These companies need something in return. At the very least, they need the information they collect to understand their userbase. I'm a marketing major and computer science minor. Really, I understand that privacy is pivotal to you guys, but you're demanding something pretty ridiculous. This is ANONYMOUS usage data.
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Product F(RED) said:
If you want privacy, go move to a rainforest in South America or something. Get rid of your phone, computer, internet connection, etc. What you guys are asking for is ridiculous. You want free products handed to you on a silver platter. These companies need something in return. At the very least, they need the information they collect to understand their userbase. I'm a marketing major and computer science minor. Really, I understand that privacy is pivotal to you guys, but you're demanding something pretty ridiculous. This is ANONYMOUS usage data.
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You sound very straight forward. Your comments are brainwashing. You have better way of critical thinking, its appreciable. As a marketing guy you know user have different preferences and taste.
Rarely people are concern about privacy which is not letting this being called as an issue.
Data is used anonymously, is this justified?
Even Facebook says this, than why it has photos and name in their database?
How come Facebook/Google recognize face with exact name if data is anonymous..
Can any of data stealers come forward and give just a short justification and proof about how data is being used?
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As Fred as stated, everything you do is tracked and monitored. This is nothing new really, been going on for years. There is only one way around it. That is to remove yourself from all things as stated above. You would be amazed how many times your personal info changes hands on a daily basis. Even utility companies track your usage. Your cell carrier does the same thing. Now I understand wanting privacy but total privacy is a myth that in this day and age is not an option. Now I dont trust the Gov in any way shape or form, to the point of not buying any device that has the fema chip installed. Which is 99% of the devices in the US.
Hello guys,
I am a huge Xiaomi fan but, i found something that haunted me!!
I am a Redmi note 7 pro user , and in recent miui update 10.3.5.0 i found that some of the Facebook apps were pre-installed as a sytem app and were sending data to Facebook servers.
I have attached the screenshot of the system apps .
If Xiaomi wants to earn money by giving direct data to Facebook then #i_hate_Xiaomi .
Developers please reach out to this problem, as advertising on mobile apps was not enough that Xiaomi started selling user data?!
Link to the screenshots in comments
alonsoj636 said:
Can we expect another update?
I'm tired of all roms and i want something simple for basic usage
Thanks
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Same here, I dunno why so many devs (including the army of 13-year old devs on t.me) build so many roms & kernels that are mostly the same, I didnt find Derpfest & PE very different from eachother but I was very impressed by Resurrection Remix on another samsung phone though. I do appreciate the hard work all the devs do but when it comes to realizing why old users want vanilla roms instead of gugle included, they dont understand the various serious scenarios of privacy requirement a user might want. They think as if only kids & college-brigade are the biggest users of android. Cant blame the devs coz most people (the whole world taken as one) dont care about privacy, they dont practise privacy much in their own lives, they just arent aware enough of it.
Ask ANY dev how to block/modify shamshung, gugle, mi & hoawai core internal privacy intrusive apps and files & they answer "oh, im afraid thats no longer possible because beginning android 10 partition system has changed bla bla bla & also OEMs are making it more difficult to modify system partitions etc. and they have started taking complete control of their devices bla bla bla". So in other words, all these young devs are able to do is add new skins to android and find out rooting solutions. I do appreciate the rooting solutions (practically just one proper available-magisk) the devs provide apart from that they really cant do much apart than provide "debloated roms", NOT EVEN Lineage COULD BLOCK/MODIFY Privacy Intrusive Core System Apps beginning Android 9 Pie!
Its SHOCKING how the OEMs and software giants have total disregard for Users Privacy....users have become absolute puppets in their hands. Nobody can drag them to court because they make users ACCEPT their Privacy Policies WITHOUT giving users an option to use the devices (That User Purchased) otherwise, unless the users allow themsevles to be followed everywhere. So its like Take It OR Leave It scene. Then our employers and peers and friends say "hey I just sent you the receipt/doc on gmail/whatapp/telegram/one drive /gdrive..what? you are not on gmail?.. oops but our company uses g-services bla bla bla". Men will be men no mattter how much order & tech is brought in. All the rules are being broken at the top while being made to look like alls fair at the user-end lol.
What had started out back then as Developers & FREE-MINDED Users' Enthusiasm to bypass Gugle & OEMs iron fisted regimen on smart devices (more for the sake of human e-rights) has just seemed to have fizzed out as most devs are just busy projecting their new android skins & other tit-bit programs so they get a good job with some OEM or software firms, NO dev or user dares challenge the Software Giants & OEMs in court anymore about Privacy & Trackers as they get purchased or obsoleted & isolated by the Software Giants , OEMs, Peers & the whole Trillion Dollar Software Industry Machinery. In the last 10 years like everyone is busier WORKING DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY FOR A SOFTWARE COMPANY or Some Electronic OEM Giant. Everyones Hooked on to some electronic device in one way or the oher.
I'm not complaining about a persons choice of livelihood or lifestyle or need for electronic gadgets but I see young kids just hooked on to big screens and smart devices in front of their faces 24/7 without real-world experiences, I'm just Shocked at how EASY it was for Software & Electronic Giants to sway aside individuals personal rights & privacy to take over this world almost unchallenged. Its no less shocking (& even traumatic ) than Thaliban! Did you notice the difference in the movies that were produced 15 years ago and now? Its just UNREAL & FICTIONAL software generated stuff now or mixed with real & unreal.
Yeah, I know what u guys gonna say- " I need to visit the Psychiatrist! ". Thanks.
OldNoobOne said:
Same here, I dunno why so many devs (including the army of 13-year old devs on t.me) build so many roms & kernels that are mostly the same, I didnt find Derpfest & PE very different from eachother but I was very impressed by Resurrection Remix on another samsung phone though. I do appreciate the hard work all the devs do but when it comes to realizing why old users want vanilla roms instead of gugle included, they dont understand the various serious scenarios of privacy requirement a user might want. They think as if only kids & college-brigade are the biggest users of android. Cant blame the devs coz most people (the whole world taken as one) dont care about privacy, they dont practise privacy much in their own lives, they just arent aware enough of it.
Ask ANY dev how to block/modify shamshung, gugle, mi & hoawai core internal privacy intrusive apps and files & they answer "oh, im afraid thats no longer possible because beginning android 10 partition system has changed bla bla bla & also OEMs are making it more difficult to modify system partitions etc. and they have started taking complete control of their devices bla bla bla". So in other words, all these young devs are able to do is add new skins to android and find out rooting solutions. I do appreciate the rooting solutions (practically just one proper available-magisk) the devs provide apart from that they really cant do much apart than provide "debloated roms", NOT EVEN Lineage COULD BLOCK/MODIFY Privacy Intrusive Core System Apps beginning Android 9 Pie!
Its SHOCKING how the OEMs and software giants have total disregard for Users Privacy....users have become absolute puppets in their hands. Nobody can drag them to court because they make users ACCEPT their Privacy Policies WITHOUT giving users an option to use the devices (That User Purchased) otherwise, unless the users allow themsevles to be followed everywhere. So its like Take It OR Leave It scene. Then our employers and peers and friends say "hey I just sent you the receipt/doc on gmail/whatapp/telegram/one drive /gdrive..what? you are not on gmail?.. oops but our company uses g-services bla bla bla". Men will be men no mattter how much order & tech is brought in. All the rules are being broken at the top while being made to look like alls fair at the user-end lol.
What had started out back then as Developers & FREE-MINDED Users' Enthusiasm to bypass Gugle & OEMs iron fisted regimen on smart devices (more for the sake of human e-rights) has just seemed to have fizzed out as most devs are just busy projecting their new android skins & other tit-bit programs so they get a good job with some OEM or software firms, NO dev or user dares challenge the Software Giants & OEMs in court anymore about Privacy & Trackers as they get purchased or obsoleted & isolated by the Software Giants , OEMs, Peers & the whole Trillion Dollar Software Industry Machinery. In the last 10 years like everyone is busier WORKING DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY FOR A SOFTWARE COMPANY or Some Electronic OEM Giant. Everyones Hooked on to some electronic device in one way or the oher.
I'm not complaining about a persons choice of livelihood or lifestyle or need for electronic gadgets but I see young kids just hooked on to big screens and smart devices in front of their faces 24/7 without real-world experiences, I'm just Shocked at how EASY it was for Software & Electronic Giants to sway aside individuals personal rights & privacy to take over this world almost unchallenged. Its no less shocking (& even traumatic ) than Thaliban! Did you notice the difference in the movies that were produced 15 years ago and now? Its just UNREAL & FICTIONAL software generated stuff now or mixed with real & unreal.
Yeah, I know what u guys gonna say- " I need to visit the Psychiatrist! ". Thanks.
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#UPDATE:
Guess what I found out. Seems like Lineage 18.1 Vanilla ROM has joined hands with Gugle-spy too, even without gappz! My reasons-
[ A ]
I installed TBPro V8 on Redmi N10 to take a backup (System + App data) of system & 3rd party apps, & the backup process got stuck at 93%, It was stuck forever trying to backup a system app called 'External Storage 11' ; so I froze the app (External Storage 11) using another freezer app (root) and disabled 'run at boot' feature too for (External Storage 11 app) and then AN INTERESTING THING HAPPENED - when I cleared Dalvik & ART Cache to reboot the phone it rebooted but....this time TBPro app refused to start!!! BUT THATS NOT ALL ...lol
[ B ]
Then I used a Root File Exploration app to tryn disable the app (External Storage 11) from /sytem by renaming the app from ExternalStorage11.apk to ExternalStorage11.epk AND ANOTHER INTERESTING THING HAPPENED - This time the Root Exploration app refused to start!!! I didnt clear the Dalvik/ART Cache this time but tried to boot the phone...it was stuck at lineage bootlogo for sometime then OFox recovery got replaced by Twrp so no other option but to reinstall the Lineage 18.1 ROM!
[ C ]
Mostly the andoid devices manufactured by OEM's after 2019 no longer come with removable batteries.
So my conclusions from [ A ], [ B ] & [ C } are-
> Higher grade AI [Artificial Intellingence] is most likely present inside vanilla aosp custom roms of 2021 too so aosp based gappz-roms will have built-in AI (Artificial Intelligence) most definitely, else how would the custom ROMs & OEM Stock ROMs know which 3rd party apps a user was using to tryn disable which critical system apps? I never used a sim nor ever connected to wifi so how?
> Privacy is not about vanilla or gappz included roms, Privacy-breaching Artificial Intellingence is always present in vanilla (non-gappz) roms too because the base andoid 9 ,10 or 11 that sits inside the 64/128 Gb storage doesnt go away by custom-recovery (custom-bios) wipes (maybe fastboot mode could wipe everything but i'm doubtful)
> If the AI (Artificial Intelligence) is capable enough to figure out what buttons a user presses when and for what reason (which definitely it is capable of as I see) then its not hard to imagine that the AI (Artificial Intelligence) could also self-boot the device (when a user has switched off the device or when the user is asleep) and turn-off firewalls etc. too to upload user's personal data to the satellites via users data (sim card) connection OR users wifi connection (using saved wifi PWs) OR using Open-wifi newtworks to communicate with external cloud servers.
> It's no coincidence then that the recent devices come with non-removable batteries because if the primary user of the device is 'User 0' then the AI [Artificial Intellingence] is 'User Invisible/User Hidden' & needs uninterrupted power supply to always be connected to external servers as and when it feels the need to ( ofcourse without users consent. What consent just a copy of your data sent, you still have your data!..lol ). Thats the nature of espionage isnt it? To make it look like something but the core purpose something else too. If you ask any geek or seller about why batteries are non-removable in recent devices they'll say "In-built batteries give better battery-backup!" but the Artificial Intelligence might need power when user is asleep or when device is switched off is something users just leave to their imaginative fiction. The recent andoid versions & even some aosp roms seem to put so much stress on Usage-Pattern Learning & analytics, no wonder.
[ I had seen some lesser-known phones/tabs wake up the screen display for a fraction of a second even after I had switched them off long before in the night..but i presume next-gen AI wont even need display to be ON in order to access internet if programmed to do so ]
I wonder why else would OEMs be so bothered to build 6000 mAh non-removable battery devices with heavier OS that hog the batteries (even when debloated) just to let the user have half-a-day worth of juice more than the older devices? Maybe they want uninteruppted power supply for their Mr. Artificial Intelligence to stay connected to their servers & so they provide Fast-charging as well, all the way upto 120W fast charge..lol
> They make it look like the user can just toggle a few switches in settings and regain privacy but the deeply embedded AI is hidden. I guess even if they accept using such intrusive AI algorithms in the future they wont give a demn coz for the S/W Giants & OEMs users are probably just foolish apes hooked on to games & social sites. It wont bother their conscience coz Trillions of dollars & careers & jobs are at stake, Its huge bizness for them now ; privacy can go for a walk.
> Prabable reasons for huge investments in Software Developement & Artificial Intelligence - Data-mining, Surveillence, Counter-Intelligence by various agencies, To show-off Tech-Superiority, To create a software-dependent world to turn apes into more logical-thinking beings using tech ..lol
BTW whoever are purchasing these complete-spy-devices (over-smart-fones, over-smart tvs, over-smart gadgets) with 800 dollars upwards are noober than me coz I spent just 400 and they paid way more than me to be spied on, these devices are still the same beneath, you like good wardrobes dont you? For me its just a very very expensive flashlight coz im not going to be using complete spy devices if I had the choice.
Thanks for listning. Dont even say it, yes im going to meet the psychiatrist now!
OldNoobOne said:
#UPDATE:
Guess what I found out. Seems like Lineage 18.1 Vanilla ROM has joined hands with Gugle-spy too, even without gappz! My reasons-
[ A ]
I installed TBPro V8 on Redmi N10 to take a backup (System + App data) of system & 3rd party apps, & the backup process got stuck at 93%, It was stuck forever trying to backup a system app called 'External Storage 11' ; so I froze the app (External Storage 11) using another freezer app (root) and disabled 'run at boot' feature too for (External Storage 11 app) and then AN INTERESTING THING HAPPENED - when I cleared Dalvik & ART Cache to reboot the phone it rebooted but....this time TBPro app refused to start!!! BUT THATS NOT ALL ...lol
[ B ]
Then I used a Root File Exploration app to tryn disable the app (External Storage 11) from /sytem by renaming the app from ExternalStorage11.apk to ExternalStorage11.epk AND ANOTHER INTERESTING THING HAPPENED - This time the Root Exploration app refused to start!!! I didnt clear the Dalvik/ART Cache this time but tried to boot the phone...it was stuck at lineage bootlogo for sometime then OFox recovery got replaced by Twrp so no other option but to reinstall the Lineage 18.1 ROM!
[ C ]
Mostly the andoid devices manufactured by OEM's after 2019 no longer come with removable batteries.
So my conclusions from [ A ], [ B ] & [ C } are-
> Higher grade AI [Artificial Intellingence] is most likely present inside vanilla aosp custom roms of 2021 too so aosp based gappz-roms will have built-in AI (Artificial Intelligence) most definitely, else how would the custom ROMs & OEM Stock ROMs know which 3rd party apps a user was using to tryn disable which critical system apps? I never used a sim nor ever connected to wifi so how?
> Privacy is not about vanilla or gappz included roms, Privacy-breaching Artificial Intellingence is always present in vanilla (non-gappz) roms too because the base andoid 9 ,10 or 11 that sits inside the 64/128 Gb storage doesnt go away by custom-recovery (custom-bios) wipes (maybe fastboot mode could wipe everything but i'm doubtful)
> If the AI (Artificial Intelligence) is capable enough to figure out what buttons a user presses when and for what reason (which definitely it is capable of as I see) then its not hard to imagine that the AI (Artificial Intelligence) could also self-boot the device (when a user has switched off the device or when the user is asleep) and turn-off firewalls etc. too to upload user's personal data to the satellites via users data (sim card) connection OR users wifi connection (using saved wifi PWs) OR using Open-wifi newtworks to communicate with external cloud servers.
> It's no coincidence then that the recent devices come with non-removable batteries because if the primary user of the device is 'User 0' then the AI [Artificial Intellingence] is 'User Invisible/User Hidden' & needs uninterrupted power supply to always be connected to external servers as and when it feels the need to ( ofcourse without users consent. What consent just a copy of your data sent, you still have your data!..lol ). Thats the nature of espionage isnt it? To make it look like something but the core purpose something else too. If you ask any geek or seller about why batteries are non-removable in recent devices they'll say "In-built batteries give better battery-backup!" but the Artificial Intelligence might need power when user is asleep or when device is switched off is something users just leave to their imaginative fiction. The recent andoid versions & even some aosp roms seem to put so much stress on Usage-Pattern Learning & analytics, no wonder.
[ I had seen some lesser-known phones/tabs wake up the screen display for a fraction of a second even after I had switched them off long before in the night..but i presume next-gen AI wont even need display to be ON in order to access internet if programmed to do so ]
I wonder why else would OEMs be so bothered to build 6000 mAh non-removable battery devices with heavier OS that hog the batteries (even when debloated) just to let the user have half-a-day worth of juice more than the older devices? Maybe they want uninteruppted power supply for their Mr. Artificial Intelligence to stay connected to their servers & so they provide Fast-charging as well, all the way upto 120W fast charge..lol
> They make it look like the user can just toggle a few switches in settings and regain privacy but the deeply embedded AI is hidden. I guess even if they accept using such intrusive AI algorithms in the future they wont give a demn coz for the S/W Giants & OEMs users are probably just foolish apes hooked on to games & social sites. It wont bother their conscience coz Trillions of dollars & careers & jobs are at stake, Its huge bizness for them now ; privacy can go for a walk.
> Prabable reasons for huge investments in Software Developement & Artificial Intelligence - Data-mining, Surveillence, Counter-Intelligence by various agencies, To show-off Tech-Superiority, To create a software-dependent world to turn apes into more logical-thinking beings using tech ..lol
BTW whoever are purchasing these complete-spy-devices (over-smart-fones, over-smart tvs, over-smart gadgets) with 800 dollars upwards are noober than me coz I spent just 400 and they paid way more than me to be spied on, these devices are still the same beneath, you like good wardrobes dont you? For me its just a very very expensive flashlight coz im not going to be using complete spy devices if I had the choice.
Thanks for listning. Dont even say it, yes im going to meet the psychiatrist now!
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I didnt mean any bad against devs though, they're just working for what they aimimg for, but yes AI inside Andoid 9, 10 & 11 make the device more of a spy gadget from what I sense. Rooting just allows some leverage but I see low-level thugs on street who know high-level thugs inside governments & gugle to pilfer data of individuals (they obviously use Analytics etc. to find just about any detail they need), that renders Root privilages practically useless. But, thanks for putting it on Privacy & Tech Giants.
interesting research..
But theres no way anyone outside the comrade-world could escape big daddy Phentagons surveillance really, maybe not even the KayGB perhaps. Gugle, Mycrowsoft, Appel, Leenux distro communities, all work round the clock for Hoamland Sekurity, they are just the front desks for Phentagon. They prolly have all the 7.8 bil people in this world neatly tagged, filed up in a designated folder for future references in real-time. All this sekurity for the pretty woman walking down the street really, would an ugly duckling be given this kind of protection, not really doesn't happen. I use the Custom ROM channel to upgrade instead of OEM Update channel. Nova is the most popular 3rd party launcher.
it's not that unusal even on recent Samsung, Moto or OnePlus
https://www.xda-developers.com/oxyg...onally-identifiable-information-for-analytics
https://www.xda-developers.com/report-android-phones-transmit-data-to-adups-a-chinese-firm
However...Alcatel, which is supposed to be "French", is owned by Nokia, which is "Swedish". And some sources say it's unlikely that TCL (the Chinese manufacturer) is involved, rather, some app developers "got hacked"...but how likely is that.
Sounds more like a European false-flag thing?
aIecxs said:
it's not that unusal even on recent Samsung, Moto or OnePlus
https://www.xda-developers.com/oxyg...onally-identifiable-information-for-analytics
https://www.xda-developers.com/report-android-phones-transmit-data-to-adups-a-chinese-firm
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Uhm...by the way, how hard is it to actually set up some Chineeese server? Can't you just ask a friend or student there to set up a PC for you somewhere?
If Google does it, it's fine, but as soon as that server (or maybe just the first relay node) is located somewhere in China, it's shady-shaaady
"Vulnerability by Design in Mobile Network Security"
if google does, it's fine - not. that's why I have named some brands sold in EU and US market. it's just stupid mind setting which leads to nonsense like Trumps Huawei ban.
I have explained reasons for data collection here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/dkb-tan2go-app-on-rooted-device.3835355/post-79702049
user data is the new oil, they feed their computers for predicting everything. BlackRock is the biggest player here. They own the world already, why they shouldn't own your data... nothing is for free, every f** app is interested in user data. they give you something you benefit from, you give them something back. join discussion here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/kingroot-malware-adware-root.3563090/post-77372153
kerstin92 said:
TCL and Alcatel direct links to massive spyware operation
TCL
www.gadgetguy.com.au
Oh no...oh no...
What do I do??
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I keep my downloads and everything in a pen drive , keeping the Internal storage empty all the time, only transferring files from OTG to Internal Storage when needed then quickly reboot to recovery and delete cache partition everyday
aIecxs said:
if google does, it's fine - not. that's why I have named some brands sold in EU and US market. it's just stupid mind setting which leads to nonsense like Trumps Huawei ban.
I have explained reasons for data collection here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/dkb-tan2go-app-on-rooted-device.3835355/post-79702049
user data is the new oil, they feed their computers for predicting everything. BlackRock is the biggest player here. They own the world already, why they shouldn't own your data... nothing is for free, every f** app is interested in user data. they give you something you benefit from, you give them something back. join discussion here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/kingroot-malware-adware-root.3563090/post-77372153
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Im speechless at all this spy wars going on everywhere & innocent people getting bullied like this. So its all justified then, why don't they just charge everyone for their apps & S/W like mycrowsoft does? why keep free things at all when ethics are a question? I spent 4 years day and night 24/7 to find root solutions to secure my devices and just last year i spent sleepless nights for 10 months now for the same reasons. Anyone and everyone who have insiders in gugle, OEM & Telecom finds out every detail about us and leverages it to mock me, its getting obvious and dangerous often. So many people have vanished because terrorists tracked them down through insider tipoffs. This is crazy war going on.
I think you didn't quite understand. companies are interested in your data. but they are not interested on you.
btw cache partition is not containing anything other than recovery logs and OTA
aIecxs said:
I think you didn't quite understand. companies are interested in your data. but they are not interested on you.
btw cache partition is not containing anything other than recovery logs and OTA
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thanks I didnt know that but I also use sdmaid to cleanup app junk & system junk every now n then.
Its not the companies We ar eworried about its the elements who use the companies to get to us thats bothersome, anyway you wouldn't know the mayhem unless you lived where I live :-/
aIecxs said:
it's not that unusal even on recent Samsung, Moto or OnePlus
https://www.xda-developers.com/oxyg...onally-identifiable-information-for-analytics
https://www.xda-developers.com/report-android-phones-transmit-data-to-adups-a-chinese-firm
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Samsung also? Do you have an example? I mean except the fact that they have to use ARM CPUs and other "third-party" components which renders their chipsets wide-open to whatever vulnerabilities our governments decide to design into the processors...
aIecxs said:
if google does, it's fine - not. that's why I have named some brands sold in EU and US market. it's just stupid mind setting which leads to nonsense like Trumps Huawei ban.
I have explained reasons for data collection here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/dkb-tan2go-app-on-rooted-device.3835355/post-79702049
user data is the new oil, they feed their computers for predicting everything. BlackRock is the biggest player here. They own the world already, why they shouldn't own your data... nothing is for free, every f** app is interested in user data. they give you something you benefit from, you give them something back. join discussion here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/kingroot-malware-adware-root.3563090/post-77372153
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User data is not the "new" oil - your village priest, teacher, lawyer, doctor, psychiatrist, banker etc. already know everything there is interesting about you. If you went to church in 1900 and confessed to your pastor, what do you think used to happen with that information? Or if all the villagers above happen to have Wednesday pub meetings, what do you think they're talking about? Or why do you think our elites used to send highly-trained loyalist Jesuits in every country before an eventual invasion? Information gathering and convergence is nothing new and it's certainly nothing European-Americans started/invented.
"Vulnerability by Design in Mobile Network Security"
"The digital cellular mobile network GSM (Global System Mobile), commonly called 2G, was standardised by European Telecommunications Standards Institute (ETSI) during the 1980s. Weak security was purposely built into the system because various European governments requested the ability to deactivate or break the encryption on the radio link in order to eavesdrop on mobile phone conversations. At the introduction of 2G GSM in 1991, MNOs (Mobile Network Operators) outside Europe were forced to use weak encryption, whereas European operators could use relatively strong encryption. For that reason, a strong and a weak set of cryptographic algorithms were designed. Parts of the GSM 2G standards were kept confidential and only distributed to industry partners under non-disclosure agreements."
What European-Americans are doing is what Europeans have been doing all along, so one shouldn't worry about some shady shell companies in the style of Tyrell Corp. or Weyland Yutani - but the elites in your own village/country and the very culture that nourishes them. "If you point one finger at somebody, three will point at you."
After all, for some magical reasons, it's never us that get sprayed with dioxins or silently "disappeared" from our ancestral lands, right?
OldNoobOne said:
I keep my downloads and everything in a pen drive , keeping the Internal storage empty all the time, only transferring files from OTG to Internal Storage when needed then quickly reboot to recovery and delete cache partition everyday
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That's actually not a bad idea...to keep the device as "stateless" as possible and to store all user data on a separate storage. This would, at least, minimize data loss in the event of technical issues with the device...I think I will try this
OldNoobOne said:
thanks I didnt know that but I also use sdmaid to cleanup app junk & system junk every now n then.
Its not the companies We ar eworried about its the elements who use the companies to get to us thats bothersome, anyway you wouldn't know the mayhem unless you lived where I live :-/
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May I ask where you are from?
your analogy to "new oil" is inappropriate. nobody cares about you, you're not that special Person Of Interest.
BlackRock analysts run the most secret and most complex predicting software in the world (and I am not talking about Aladdin). It's about feeding with as much data as possible, surveillance is just a side effect (they can throw to the dogs to eat keeping governments on short leash)
as for Samsung bloatware, I remember some user claimed about impossible to disable random full screen pop-up ads from Samsung pay. I meanwhile found a tutorial, so this would maybe help him
https://www.androidauthority.com/stop-ads-samsung-phone-3108986
two years ago, Samsung sent out Suspicious notification from "Find My Mobile" to whole world by accident. What's interesting in that, the message was received even by users they never signed up any samsung account, some had even willingful disabled Find My Mobile by revoking it from device administrators
https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/221400/suspicious-notification-from-find-my-mobile
back in 2014 Samsung was proofen backdoors in Galaxy devices (link in comments)
https://android.stackexchange.com/q...doors-in-android-devices#comment330488_246681
kerstin92 said:
That's actually not a bad idea...to keep the device as "stateless" as possible and to store all user data on a separate storage. This would, at least, minimize data loss in the event of technical issues with the device...I think I will try this
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Store your data in two or more separate HDDs, electronically and physically insulated from each other.
***No Sarcasm. I actually mean it***
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GSM still can be location tracked unless you remove battery
Hey there, folks!
Some years ago, back in the high school I'm starting to using WA again. Back then I was using it for anything, personal chat, school related chat, selling things, etc. Then when going to the college I'm starting to realize the needs to differ between personal life and professional life. Scrolling through my phone's (spec below) setting and found there's a feature to clone apps, and there's WA in the options. This way I don't have to buy another phone for my professional life, just switch between the apps. Good idea isn't it? Little known by me, when I want to backup my WA data it has some easter eggs. It can't backup data from clone apps.
I have mistaken when I saw the notification backup, thought that it was worked for both apps. After a long time using it, with many important conversations, videos, professional life-related memes, I just realized that's it's all couldn't be saved if i couldn't be memorized it all through my dumb brain! Now don't get the impression that I was a baboon who just can screeching around when something happened. Though I screaming a lot, I tried to use another Google account to backup (X), searching around the google to find tutorial (X), even emailing WA contact person (X), they even accused me for using illegal third party apps. What a ****ing baboon they are.
They said the third time the charm. So, I hope from you folks to help me out (...) I have even pull my effort to registering in this site just now for the sake of a healthy discussion with all of you, folks. Thank you for your attention. Hope you all are doing good and great.
Regards.
Me
My Phone :
OPPO A83 (CPH1729) (3/32) 2018
OS : ColorOS V3.2
Android Ver : Nougat 7.1.1
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