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So, I just got my shiny, new Pixel, and immediately went to unlock the bootloader prior to booting it up for the first time. I was not pleased to be greeted with the following message:
FAILED (remote: oem unlock is not allowed)
What I've found online is that with newer Android phones, you *have* to boot the phone first and enable USB debugging/OEM unlocking from the developer settings. Is there no way around this? I don't want to waste all that time doing that, only to wipe data a minute later.
If I am forced to do it this way, is there a way to get into the developer settings without first adding my google account, etc.? This is really, frustratingly difficult, especially for such an obscenely expensive phone!
Edit: Okay, you can get into settings without adding a Google account, but the "OEM unlocking" option is greyed out, with the message "Connect to the internet or contact your carrier." WTF? I don't even have a SIM in this phone yet. What gives, Google?
hackel said:
So, I just got my shiny, new Pixel, and immediately went to unlock the bootloader prior to booting it up for the first time. I was not pleased to be greeted with the following message:
FAILED (remote: oem unlock is not allowed)
What I've found online is that with newer Android phones, you *have* to boot the phone first and enable USB debugging/OEM unlocking from the developer settings. Is there no way around this? I don't want to waste all that time doing that, only to wipe data a minute later.
If I am forced to do it this way, is there a way to get into the developer settings without first adding my google account, etc.? This is really, frustratingly difficult, especially for such an obscenely expensive phone!
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I can't answer the main part of the question, but you can skip adding a google account and still enable OEM unlock ability in dev options.
EDIT: regarding your edit, hackel, that is frustrating they make you "activate" it on a carrier or via google before allowing OEM unlock. Very Apple-ish.
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Edit: Okay, you can get into settings without adding a Google account, but the "OEM unlocking" option is greyed out, with the message "Connect to the internet or contact your carrier." WTF? I don't even have a SIM in this phone yet. What gives, Google?
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Did you buy the phone from Verizon or Best Buy? The only ones that support bootloader unlocking are sold direct from Google. The ones from Vz and BB will have "OEM Unlocking" greyed out.
FWIW, I just set mine up this morning. I skipped through most of the settings, didn't add a google app, enabled OEM unlocking, and then unlocked with fastboot with no issues.
EDIT: hmm, I may have put my SIM in it first. Can't remember.
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Did you buy the phone from Verizon or Best Buy? The only ones that support bootloader unlocking are sold direct from Google. The ones from Vz and BB will have "OEM Unlocking" greyed out.
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Do you have confirmation of this? We know about Verizon, but where did you see that devices sold through BestBuy or other carriers would not allow unlocking?
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Did you buy the phone from Verizon or Best Buy? The only ones that support bootloader unlocking are sold direct from Google. The ones from Vz and BB will have "OEM Unlocking" greyed out.
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Are you sure? Ars Technica, for instance, among many, are reporting that the Verizon variant can indeed have the BL unlocked. The default for all versions is greyed out until you change it.
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FWIW, I just set mine up this morning. I skipped through most of the settings, didn't add a google app, enabled OEM unlocking, and then unlocked with fastboot with no issues.
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Did you have your phone connected to the internet and/or have a SIM in it when you enabled OEM unlocking?
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Did you buy the phone from Verizon or Best Buy? The only ones that support bootloader unlocking are sold direct from Google. The ones from Vz and BB will have "OEM Unlocking" greyed out.
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No, purchased directly from Google Store. I didn't add a working wifi network the first time (intentionally). I finally just caved in and added one, and after a few seconds the OEM unlocking option became available. I really wish I didn't have to allow the device to check-in with Google simply in order to unlock it.
Oh well, thanks!
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Do you have confirmation of this. We know about Verizon, but where did you see that devices sold through BestBuy or other carriers would not allow unlocking?
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Best Buy is selling the Verizon version. Google has stated that only the ones sold directly from them have unlockable bootloaders.
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Are you sure? Ars Technica, for instance, among many, are reporting that the Verizon variant can indeed have the BL unlocked. The default for all versions is greyed out until you change it.
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Where did they say that? Everything I've seen says it's not unlockable:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/10/04/confirmed-verizon-pixels-bootloader-will-not-unlockable/
All of the phones ship locked, but on non-Google versions the option to enable OEM unlocking remains greyed out.
All phones, including those sold by Vz, are carrier unlocked though.
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Best Buy is selling the Verizon version. Google has stated that only the ones sold directly from them have unlockable bootloaders.
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You're absolutely right. I must've read that the Verizon variant will be carrier unlocked and interpreted that as BL.
Still garbage that you have to phone home before the google variant will allow an OEM unlock.
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Best Buy is selling the Verizon version. Google has stated that only the ones sold directly from them have unlockable bootloaders.
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Ok, I think you are talking specifically about the U.S. then. I'm pretty sure Pixel devices sold through carriers here in Canada have unlockable bootloaders. My device hasn't arrived yet, so I haven't personally verified.
Out of curiosity... Has anyone tried removing the Verizon sim card and replacing it with a T-Mobile or AT&T sim before or after first boot to see if it changes the unlock option?
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Ok, I think you are talking specifically about the U.S. then. I'm pretty sure Pixel devices sold through carriers here in Canada have unlockable bootloaders. My device hasn't arrived yet, so I haven't personally verified.
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Please let us know when you do especially if you're on Bell. Thanks!
dmbfan36_23 said:
Did you buy the phone from Verizon or Best Buy? The only ones that support bootloader unlocking are sold direct from Google. The ones from Vz and BB will have "OEM Unlocking" greyed out.
FWIW, I just set mine up this morning. I skipped through most of the settings, didn't add a google app, enabled OEM unlocking, and then unlocked with fastboot with no issues.
EDIT: hmm, I may have put my SIM in it first. Can't remember.
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Does anyone know for sure that the phones from best buy are locked and have a locked bootloader? I contacted best buy and they said the phones are locked but when I contacted Google support, they said those phones along with the Google store phones are unlocked with a unlocked bootloader. Don't know who to believe? I would like to buy the phone from best buy only if it's unlocked with a unlocked bootloader because the Google stores shipping and logistics are all screwed up. Ordered placed later are getting shipped before earlier orders. Not happy with Google.
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hackel said:
No, purchased directly from Google Store. I didn't add a working wifi network the first time (intentionally). I finally just caved in and added one, and after a few seconds the OEM unlocking option became available. I really wish I didn't have to allow the device to check-in with Google simply in order to unlock it.
Oh well, thanks!
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Hackel, you don't need to enter your google account info or insert your sim. Just connect to wifi and then go to developer settings to disable OEM unlock.
Source: Me cause I did it, duh
tjarvis said:
Out of curiosity... Has anyone tried removing the Verizon sim card and replacing it with a T-Mobile or AT&T sim before or after first boot to see if it changes the unlock option?
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That's a no go, the VZW model has a different CID.
I can't speak for why we have to connect to the internet before you can OEM unlock, but toggling this setting before you can unlock the bootloader is a security measure and its a really good thing.
Think about it, if your Pixel was a corporate phone or you actually cared about security, you would want the bootloader to be locked.
Without the need to boot the phone and enter a password:
1. I could steal / borrow your phone when you aren't looking
2. unlock the bootloader with ANY PC
3. then sideload a kernel that did something bad, or fastboot boot to twrp and install some malware
4. then give it back to you
OR
I could just steal your phone and wipe / flash it and keep it or sell it.
Nothing could stop me from doing either if you got your wish. In its current setup, your pin / password / fingerprint can still protect the phone from getting unlocked. You are in control.
I know anyone who wants to unlock the bootloader here does not care about security. I've been there. But you also have to think about who these phones are really made for. They were built to be mainstream phones for everyone. These aren't strictly developer phones. Even Nexus phones had this feature. My 5x and 6p required me to OEM unlock before I could unlock the bootloader. I don't remember if the Nexus 4, 5, 6 made me do this. It may have started with device encryption. I don't remember.
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I can't speak for why we have to connect to the internet before you can OEM unlock, but toggling this setting before you can unlock the bootloader is a security measure and its a really good thing.
Think about it, if your Pixel was a corporate phone or you actually cared about security, you would want the bootloader to be locked.
Without the need to boot the phone and enter a password:
1. I could steal / borrow your phone when you aren't looking
2. unlock the bootloader with ANY PC
3. then sideload a kernel that did something bad, or fastboot boot to twrp and install some malware
4. then give it back to you
OR
I could just steal your phone and wipe / flash it and keep it or sell it.
Nothing could stop me from doing either if you got your wish. In its current setup, your pin / password / fingerprint can still protect the phone from getting unlocked. You are in control.
I know anyone who wants to unlock the bootloader here does not care about security. I've been there. But you also have to think about who these phones are really made for. They were built to be mainstream phones for everyone. These aren't strictly developer phones. Even Nexus phones had this feature. My 5x and 6p required me to OEM unlock before I could unlock the bootloader. I don't remember if the Nexus 4, 5, 6 made me do this. It may have started with device encryption. I don't remember.
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In the past, when you purchased a Nexus device, you could pull it out of the box, boot directly into the bootloader, and unlock the bootloader without booting into Android. Starting with the Nexus 6, if (and only if) you booted into Android before unlocking the bootloader, then you needed to enable the "Allow OEM unlock" setting to unlock the bootloader. (This was done as part of Google's factory reset protection, so that if you lost your device, someone wouldn't be able to just wipe it and use it.) So, having to enable the "Allow OEM unlock" setting is nothing new. However, now, apparently, what is new, is that you cannot unlock the bootloader when you take it out of the box for the first time, without booting into Android first. I fail to see how this is a security measure, as a brand new phone has nothing on it, and anyone can boot into Android anyway when taking it out of the box.
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In the past, when you purchased a Nexus device, you could pull it out of the box, boot directly into the bootloader, and unlock the bootloader without booting into Android. Starting with the Nexus 6, if you booted into Android before unlocking the bootloader, then you needed to enable the "Allow OEM unlock" setting. (This was done as part of Google's factory reset protection, so that if you lost your device, someone wouldn't be able to just wipe it and use it.) So, having to enable the "Allow OEM unlock" setting is nothing new. However, now, apparently, what is new, is that you cannot unlock the bootloader when you take it out of the box for the first time, without booting into Android first. I fail to see how this is a security measure, as a brand new phone has nothing on it, and anyone can boot into Android anyway when taking it out of the box.
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Ok. That sounds correct. I nevered tried to unlock out of the box. I assumed it was the same as after the first boot.
Thanks for the clarification.
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In the past, when you purchased a Nexus device, you could pull it out of the box, boot directly into the bootloader, and unlock the bootloader without booting into Android. Starting with the Nexus 6, if (and only if) you booted into Android before unlocking the bootloader, then you needed to enable the "Allow OEM unlock" setting to unlock the bootloader. (This was done as part of Google's factory reset protection, so that if you lost your device, someone wouldn't be able to just wipe it and use it.) So, having to enable the "Allow OEM unlock" setting is nothing new. However, now, apparently, what is new, is that you cannot unlock the bootloader when you take it out of the box for the first time, without booting into Android first. I fail to see how this is a security measure, as a brand new phone has nothing on it, and anyone can boot into Android anyway when taking it out of the box.
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It hinders someone from loading malware before the phone is booted. It also makes you clearly aware of the "risks".
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This is the dumbest complain thread that I've read in awhile honestly. You're complaining about a 1 minute inconvenience? Just login and OEM unlock and you're done...it took you longer to type up this thread and find a way around it.
Cares said:
This is the dumbest complain thread that I've read in awhile honestly. You're complaining about a 1 minute inconvenience? Just login and OEM unlock and you're done...it took you longer to type up this thread and find a way around it.
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Well, there are other reasons for wanting to be able to unlock the bootloader without ever having booted into Android, so I wouldn't call this a complaint thread. For example, getting a complete backup of all the partitions in a (mostly) untouched condition (e.g., partitions like frp, persist, etc.).
Calling someone's question/observation a "dumbest complain thread" isn't really contributing to the discussion.
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I just recently a few days upgraded my phone from an older Samsung to a Pixel 3 XL., and I am on sprint.
And while still getting used to the Pixel vs Samsung, today I let the phone take the update to Android 10, and not really feeling the love and want to go back to Pie if I can. Already miss having the back button moved to the right side and a few other things.
I did buy the phone used, online, and is not under any lease etc. I do own it.
But unfortunately, I believe because it was probably a Sprint phone originally, OEM Unlock under the developer options is greyed out. I think this means I am currently SOL until there is a way to unlock it?
Thanks,
PT
ptmuldoon said:
I just recently a few days upgraded my phone from an older Samsung to a Pixel 3 XL., and I am on sprint.
And while still getting used to the Pixel vs Samsung, today I let the phone take the update to Android 10, and not really feeling the love and want to go back to Pie if I can. Already miss having the back button moved to the right side and a few other things.
I did buy the phone used, online, and is not under any lease etc. I do own it.
But unfortunately, I believe because it was probably a Sprint phone originally, OEM Unlock under the developer options is greyed out. I think this means I am currently SOL until there is a way to unlock it?
Thanks,
PT
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Contact Sprint, give them the IMEI number, they will look up the phone to verify that there is no balance on it and then they will send you an unlock code. Or at least I know AT&T used to do that bank when I had Samsung phones. AT&T had a link you could go to and do it, but I'm not sure about Sprint.
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Contact Sprint, give them the IMEI number, they will look up the phone to verify that there is no balance on it and then they will send you an unlock code. Or at least I know AT&T used to do that bank when I had Samsung phones. AT&T had a link you could go to and do it, but I'm not sure about Sprint.
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I actually called them last night There tech support guy although rather nice seemed to not understand what I wanted. And after he got help was telling me I need to call google for it, which makes no sense to me.
In reading today here, it mentions Sprint will unlock a phone after 50 days on their network. But I think this is just referring to a Sim/Carrier unlock and not the OEM unlock ability?
https://www.sprint.com/en/legal/unlocking-your-sprint-device.html
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How very strange, and perhaps my phone call last night got elevated. I just received a notification on my phone that is has been carrier unlocked and can not enable OEM Unlock. So I hope tonight to reinstall Pie.
ptmuldoon,
So effectively, are you saying that your previously Sprint (sim) locked phone is now (sim) unlocked, BUT that the OEM Unlock option is STILL greyed out?
Based on my reading, I've seen some folks mention that once the phone is (sim) unlocked, you should be able to OEM unlock the bootloader as well. And maybe that isn't necessarily saying that the OEM unlock option will become available, but that you can fastboot unlock bootloader. I'm not sure, but just confirming with you since you seem to be in that situation. Have you not been able to unlock the bootloader?
Thanks,
I've been thinking of making this list for people who will be buying a Pixel 4 XL in future. It might come in handy to decide where to buy your phone from.
Please post in the thread what your seller/carrier did and I will update the list.
Note: You can buy a bootloader unlockable Pixel 4 XL directly from the Google Store.
UK greyed out OEM
EE
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StrangerWeather said:
I've been thinking of making this list for people who will be buying a Pixel 4 XL in future. It might come in handy to decide where to buy your phone from.
Please post in the thread what your seller/carrier did and I will update the list.
Note: You can buy an unblocked Pixel 4 XL directly from the Google Store.
UK blocked OEM
EE
UK unblocked OEM
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TMobile variant is locked
StrangerWeather said:
I've been thinking of making this list for people who will be buying a Pixel 4 XL in future. It might come in handy to decide where to buy your phone from.
Please post in the thread what your seller/carrier did and I will update the list.
Note: You can buy an unblocked Pixel 4 XL directly from the Google Store.
UK blocked OEM
EE
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UK Vodafone is unblocked.
To be more clear I think you need to refer to it as Bootloader Unlock as OEM has no relation to that at all.
OEM stands for Original Equipment Manufacturer btw
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superchilpil said:
To be more clear I think you need to refer to it as Bootloader Unlock as OEM has no relation to that at all.
OEM stands for Original Equipment Manufacturer btw
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Hmm, not too sure. It's not that the phones come with an unlocked bootloader, you still have to unlock it. But they are either OEM unlockable or not... Any other suggestions to make it clearer?
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Hmm, not too sure. It's not that the phones come with an unlocked bootloader, you still have to unlock it. But they are either OEM unlockable or not... Any other suggestions to make it clearer?
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Well yeah none of them come with an unlocked bootloader. But your wording wasn't wrong to begin with, I just felt that referring to as bootloader unlockable is a more friendly way to put it especially for the noobs out there.
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Where did you hear about AT&T not being unlockable?
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Where did you hear about AT&T not being unlockable?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-4-xl/how-to/att-pixel-4-xl-locked-bootloader-t3989095
Bit of thread bump, but thanks!
Been searching everywhere to find out if Vodafone UK is un-lockable. Has anyone bought one recently to confirm they're still OK?
The Tmo variant can be unlocked after the sim lock is removed. I think it goes without saying for most that Fi and Google offer unlcockable versions but as this is for new guys it might be worth noting.
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I've been thinking of making this list for people who will be buying a Pixel 4 XL in future. It might come in handy to decide where to buy your phone from.
Please post in the thread what your seller/carrier did and I will update the list.
Note: You can buy a bootloader unlockable Pixel 4 XL directly from the Google Store.
UK greyed out OEM
EE
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U.S. Cellular is unlocked for Pixel 4, would assume xl as well
Except for the Verizon model, all of the other US variants can be bootloader (OEM) unlocked when they are SIM card unlocked. However the SIM card being unlocked is a requirement to having the bootloader unlocked. If you purchase a device through a US service provider, it will generally have the SIM card locked down and you must request a SIM card unlock from your service provider. The "unlocked" version sold by Google (and Best Buy) comes with the SIM card unlocked already. Therefore it can immediately have it's bootloader unlocked.
Verizon variants will never be able to be bootloader unlocked - even if you are able to get Verizon to unlock the SIM card. (People who are successful in bootloader unlocking a Verizon model are the exception to the rule and simply got lucky - normally due to a MEID snafu).
This is the same across the entire Google Pixel line.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-4-xl/how-to/att-pixel-4-xl-locked-bootloader-t3989095
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I'm gonna remove that thread because the bootloader can be unlocked if you carrier unlock your device. Confirmed on my friend's Pixel 4 from AT&T.
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I've been thinking of making this list for people who will be buying a Pixel 4 XL in future. It might come in handy to decide where to buy your phone from.
Please post in the thread what your seller/carrier did and I will update the list.
Note: You can buy a bootloader unlockable Pixel 4 XL directly from the Google Store.
UK greyed out OEM
EE
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I think Verizon is locked if you buy it from them. I bought mine through the Google store with Verizon as a "3rd party" and I got an unlockable XL
I think basically whatever the carrier, they are locked until they are fully paid, is that right? In that case, I might just close the thread as it's not very useful.
Does anyone know if the Spectrum Variant of the Google Pixel 4 xl Has an unlockable bootloader?
I called t mobile today told them I'm a developer and they gave me a permanent unlock for my phone for the OEM so I can't complain but call them, whoever's your provider and tell them you're a developer and you're trying to access the Android 11 operating system and because it's a Google phone they bound to unlock your phone. And my phone ain't fully paid off from T-Mobile so I'm good I'm happy with the results and right now I'm using Android 11 and this bad boy for preview is beautiful
Hello everyone
Any news on Pixel 4XL EE UK to unlock the bootloader after 6 months of use???
I'm on a Verizon variant which I purchased directly from Verizon. Initially I was unable to unlock my bootloader same as everyone else. However, I was recently in developmer options and noticed OEM unlocking was no longer greyed out (I was running Android 11 with Octobers update). I Didn't believe my eyes for a second and immediately toggled it on and got to work. Within a few minutes I was unlocked and rooted. Not sure if they messed up on the 11 update or if it was a mistake from one of the updates. I hadn't checked for a while previous to my discovery so I can't pin down the exact trigger.
Once you either fully payoff the device or get permission through your carrier then the carrier sends it over to Google's server which generates your unlock code then is sent to pixel 4xl as a update which will then unlock your sim. Once your sim unlocked it will allow you to highlight unlock bootloader. This is for tmobile,att, and sprint. Verizon variants however is an exception. You can get sim unlock, but will not highlight the unlock bootloader. Once in a while somebody gets lucky, but does not happen alot. Even tho it is a Google phone the carrier can still make the choice for the bootloader.
Does anyone know an unofficial way to unlock this? Otherwise it's going back.
Thanks
joemommasfat said:
Does anyone know an unofficial way to unlock this? Otherwise it's going back.
Thanks
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Is it financed, or did you buy it outright? Mine is financed, but I assumed (like an idiot, after all this is at&t) that I would be able to unlock it after paying it off. Please don't tell me I'm stuck.
Mine is financed, but I have 14 days to return it. I thought it was a deal at $450, but if I can't root it, I'll have to get an unlocked one.
I'm not from the US but I think people on the OP7Pro would call up and saying there are going on a business trip abroad so could they please have the device unlocked.
It was a bit of a lottery if they got someone chill who would do it. The other option is to pay it off.
That might have been another US network though.
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rav101 said:
I'm not from the US but I think people on the OP7Pro would call up and saying there are going on a business trip abroad so could they please have the device unlocked.
It was a bit of a lottery if they got someone chill who would do it. The other option is to pay it off.
That might have been another US network though.
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This was the locked t-mo model, and that's how I got mine unlocked. I don't work at at&t anymore but when I did there would be no way to unlock it without it being paid off. However I was contracted to work with at&t and not directly employed by them, maybe someone would have permission to do so I'm just doubtful.
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Mine is financed, but I have 14 days to return it. I thought it was a deal at $450, but if I can't root it, I'll have to get an unlocked one.
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Carrier locked is not the same as bootloader locked. As long as you can toggle the unlock bootloader setting in the developer options menu, you can root. You just can't insert the SIM of another carrier until your device is paid off.
You cannot toggle the OEM unlocking switch on carrier locked devices
joemommasfat said:
Mine is financed, but I have 14 days to return it. I thought it was a deal at $450, but if I can't root it, I'll have to get an unlocked one.
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LOL, you just now discovered that carrier locked phones can't be rooted?
Tel864 said:
LOL, you just now discovered that carrier locked phones can't be rooted?
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No, I discovered when I received the phone that at&t was carrier locking this phone. I was asking if anyone had found a way to side step this.
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LOL, you just now discovered that carrier locked phones can't be rooted?
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It's amazing the number of people who still don't know that carrier incentivized devices are locked and the exploit ship has long ago sailed away into the sunset.
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It's amazing the number of people who still don't know that carrier incentivized devices are locked and the exploit ship has long ago sailed away into the sunset.
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What's truley amazing is that I thought I could ask a question on this forum without a bunch of 1337 know-it-alls being condescending.
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What's truley amazing is that I thought I could ask a question on this forum without a bunch of 1337 know-it-alls being condescending.
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Apologies, no condescension intended. It looks like you've been rooting devices all the way back to the HTC M8. That may well have been one of the last devices that could be bootloader unlocked via exploit. I find it hard to believe that you have been active on XDA all this time and never read any posts regarding bootloader unlocking of Verizon branded/locked devices. The answer regarding bootloader unlock and root has been the same for many years now. Thus my statement that I'm amazed people are still not aware of this.
I didn't know that either. Guess all the phones I've purchased have been unlock devices.. My last phone was a samsung note 10 whick couldn't be unlocked.
if pixel 5 is anything like pixel 4 then the oem bootloader unlock option is tied to the sim lock status. for example my p4 was carrier lock to EE but i paid it off right away so i can sim unlock. becuz i read that once sim unlocked, the oem unlock toggle ungreys itself. this is exactly what happened and i was then able to unlock bootloader.
i read posts about at&t models when early researching the p4 and the way i remember it being explained was it is like apple unlocking system. the serial gets whitelisted for unlocking on google servers which then sim unlocks phone. but this also controls the oem unlock toggle! so basically sim lock status = oem unlock toggle ability status. but again this was for p4.
if youre willing to pay it off early you should be able to unlock. im debating going to p5 because of batteyr life on p4. otherwise love the phone. choices choices! anyway hope this info helps mate, good luck
vdevl said:
if pixel 5 is anything like pixel 4 then the oem bootloader unlock option is tied to the sim lock status. for example my p4 was carrier lock to EE but i paid it off right away so i can sim unlock. becuz i read that once sim unlocked, the oem unlock toggle ungreys itself. this is exactly what happened and i was then able to unlock bootloader.
i read posts about at&t models when early researching the p4 and the way i remember it being explained was it is like apple unlocking system. the serial gets whitelisted for unlocking on google servers which then sim unlocks phone. but this also controls the oem unlock toggle! so basically sim lock status = oem unlock toggle ability status. but again this was for p4.
if youre willing to pay it off early you should be able to unlock. im debating going to p5 because of batteyr life on p4. otherwise love the phone. choices choices! anyway hope this info helps mate, good luck
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Thanks for that. Unfortunately if you pay it off early, you have to pay full price (which is somehow more than buying it straight from google). The discounted price only applies if you submit to the 30 month lock in. I returned the phone. Guess I'm sticking with the trusty 2xl for a little longer.
The carrier unlock and SIM unlock are tied together for T-Mobile and AT&T, only Verizon has the "OEM unlock" permanently stuck to OFF and they will not unlock it. I think they need to be pressured but it will take work. They have no excuse.
But AT&T and T-Mobile will unlock the OEM toggle when they SIM unlock, it was confirmed with Pixel 4 when they started selling those carrier-locked. Just usually have to pay off unless you can convince them early.
FYI....T-Mobile only sells the 4a 5G, not the 5. Could change as 5 stock comes back. Short supply right now.
I just bought a (supposedly) G013A Unlocked Pixel 3, but when I go to developer options, the option to enable OEM Unlocking, I get the "Connect to internet or contact your carrier" message. I decided to use an IMEI lookup site and there are multiple comments about this specific IMEI number being grabbed from XDA and spoofed and that it's actually a Verizon phone. Is this possible/is there a way for me to confirm it?
In this case, unlocked simply means it can be used on other carriers. The phone is not bootlocker unlocked or able to be. No soup for you if you have a Verizon phone.
i have blueline with vz version and i can unlock bootloader i use CalyxOS right now.