battery loss rates - Google Pixel Questions & Answers

I recently bought a Google pixel that appears to be suffering from excessive battery drain. I'm returning it, but am curious as to what sort of battery life I should expect.
I did an experiment. I fully charged it, and then just used Google camera to record video. I left it on the table, and came back sometime later.
It was losing charge at basically 1% per hour. In the 45 minutes of recording time, it had dropped by 46%. I used better battery stats to validate that no other apps were doing anything significant.
I'm hoping that they replace the battery, and if they do, what sort of life could I expect when taking video?
In general use scenarios, the battery does drain fast. The best I can hope for is 18 hours with less than 3 hours screen time, and sometimes even less...

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Again with the Battery

Is anyone that is having battery issues running Adao Task Manager and Battery Status Pro?
I just factory reset my phone and I got 24hours of batter life. About 8 standby but a good deal of texting, web, some calls and some you tube.
I installed Task Manager and Batter Status Pro last night and my battery this morning went down 15% in about 1hr.
I uninstalled these today and will post again but has anyone else seen big battery drain from these apps or does anyone that is having issues running something similar?
I have been playing with the battery for about a week now.
For me this phone runs pretty good during stand-by. I would have about 2-3% drop for a whole night (7 to 8 hrs), with Google (push), Twitter and weather syncing.
The problem is when you use it, it drops like crazy. When I read news or surf the web, it would drop 1% every 1 or 2 min.
This morning I read an ebook, with black background for about 30 min, it dropped about 3%.
So basically i think the screen, data connection, and non-black background are the ones that kill the battery.
Yea, I agree, the S-AMOLED screen in this thing is an energy hog. OLED's are supposed to be more energy efficient than typical LCD's but I'm just not seeing it. Whenever I look at battery usage stats it shows the display at 70-75% of battery usage. Thats ridiculous. I have until the 18th, but I'm quickly leaning towards returning this and just getting an iphone4. This phone is becoming more and more disappointing the longer I have it.
This morning I have been uplugged 4.75hrs and used 16% no battery monitor and no app killer. Basically done the same things I did yesterday. Some Bebbled,texting, email, phone calls .
I will update tomorrow with total hours battery life for today. Would be happy if I can replicate the 24hours I got the day before installing those apps.
I got like 45 hours of battery with moderate usage during the two days. Seems fine to me, I occasionally used system panel to monitor if anything was using high and constant CPU
This is pretty typical of a 1ghz phone My nexus would last a day of heavy usage, 2 days if i use it lightly. We need to wait for undervolted kernels to be developed xD
Also, it really helps if you disable 3G when you don't use it. This allows me to get 3-4 days of light usage out of my nexus. I haven't played with the Captivate long enough to know how much of a difference this makes on this phone though
when you guys refer to "stand by", what exactly do you mean? Just screen off/phone idle? The battery usage on my phone when I use it seems to be OK even if not amazing, but it continues to sap life from the battery when I'm using it at an alarming rate.
Standby is when the phone is idle/screen off/locked.
The display is definitely power hungry. Using the Power Control widget that comes installed definitely has helped with battery life. It will let you toggle WiFi, BT, GPS, Data Sync, and Brightness (at 3 levels). When I'm not using anyone of those, I turn it off. When I'm indoors, I'll set the brightness to the lowest level. I'm usually at my desk when I'm streaming music, so I'll have it plugged in.
derek4484 said:
Yea, I agree, the S-AMOLED screen in this thing is an energy hog. OLED's are supposed to be more energy efficient than typical LCD's but I'm just not seeing it. Whenever I look at battery usage stats it shows the display at 70-75% of battery usage. Thats ridiculous. I have until the 18th, but I'm quickly leaning towards returning this and just getting an iphone4. This phone is becoming more and more disappointing the longer I have it.
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Actually they are more energy efficient on black screens, But screens with a lot of white in them suck battery bad.
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Actually they are more energy efficient on black screens, But screens with a lot of white in them suck battery bad.
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This is true the white screens burn the battery etc. I just wanted to let everyone know what I did to make my battery last more that 24hrs.
First, read the Wiki guide and apply some of the battery saving tips.
Second, UNINSTALL a program called "gReader" created by noinnion. This program is a huge battery hog! At least it was for me.
Hope this helps.
Well I guess I am one of the "lucky ones" Im running a live wallpaper and have not run my battery down since the 1st day. Right now Im at 40% life and at 15 Hrs 30m since unplugged. This is with checking facebook, twitter, email, phone calls, internet browsing\video watching and following the steps for the GPS fix. The only thing I have done is install ATK on the phone, besides that its all stock.
One thing I know is a huge battery drain is Time without Service. Check that stat and see if you have anytime at all without service, if so, I am pointing to that as a major drain on the battery. I know currently I have 0% Time without signal, my fiancee however is usually in the 20+% range and her battery drains like many reports I have seen here (she has an EVO).....
Yesterday I only managed 16 hours. Web, Email, A bluetooth file transfer, short bit of gaming. I have about 5% of the cell standby time (26%) without signal. My girlfriend has the Aria which is running Android 2.1 also, has all sorts of widgets, haptic feedback on and can make it at least 24 hours. I get that it has a smaller screen but it is also an LCD. Shouldn't the Super Amoled be saving our battery some display consumption.
i get about 14 hours or so moderate usage and at the end of the day, i have about 35% left at night.
If you detail the "Display" usage in the battery usage details how many minutes has your screen been on? Mine says 1hour 2mins ...this is for 8 hours of running time. My display is using 50% of the battery (which is at 68% now).
W00t W00t today I have reached a new high 2 Days 6 hours and 29 minuts with 12% battery left.....
What I have found is keeping Wifi on while I am at work and home like almost doubled my battery life. Which is great that I can use Wifi all day and not drain the battery so fast like my Fuze. Right now been off charger since 7:30am and I have 84% left. Yesterday after 9 hours I was still over 50%. For me its better than any other smartphone I have owened.
I used manual brightness, (swipe notification bar), turn off GPS/BT. black wallpaper and set Wifi to never sleep. Also the power saving mode in settings is off for other reason and doesn't affect battery.
At 18% right now and it's been off the charger for about 30 hours. I noticed yesterday that while I was connected to wifi at home (with Y5 app), it was draining faster than when I was connected to 3g. Did some tested back and forth and JuicePlotter clearly had a noticeably steeper downward slope for when wifi was connected than when it was using 3g. Weird :\

Foyo update...Battery life shortened ?

Has anyone noticed their battery life seems shorter since the update ? I installed the official froyo update last night and it seems I'm running out of juice much quicker than before.
At first mine ran down faster. I ran it all the way down. Charged it. And ran it all the way down again and charged. It seems back to normal.
I didn't have any issues. Maybe you changed something else as well? Could always try a few recharge cycles and see if it stabilizes..
I was running the leaked 2.2 and I flashed to official 2.2. My battery life is almost double what it was. I can't complain one bit about battery life, although I have other gripes with the official Froyo release.
I'm with icepop on this one.. I was running the stock rogers rom pre-update and now with the official rogers 2.2 I'm getting at least double the use before having to charge again.
I'm having battery issues with the new stock Froyo. I lose a huge amount of juce when in standby. I thought I may have my widgets updating too often so I charged it up and put it into airplane mode last night. The phone lost about 1% per hour in airplane mode. IDK what is normal but that seems like a lot to me. I didn't have any apps running, except my alarm was set for the morning.
I have SystemPanel installed and my cpu load NEVER goes below 10 percent, even in airplane mode. I suspect this is a large part of the issue. In app history, system and system processes are always on the top of the list and are around 3% each. IDK what controls this or how to lower it. I would love some feedback from someone else with SystemPanel just to see how our numbers compare. Overall the battery life I'm experiencing is pretty terrible and a buddy of mine's Fascinate has much better battery life (hence something must be wrong somewhere). He and I were skiing all day over the weekend and when we got back to our cars, my phone was half dead and his had lost almost zero juice. This displeases me.
mine's was better actually. but i didnt stayon it for long
My initial results with 2.2 were very bad (10% drop per hour when idling). I reset the phone back to 2.1 then re-installed 2.2. This did not help. Now I did this again (2.1 then 2.2) but this time I have not re-installed my apps and have not rooted (yet). So far, battery life seems to be normal. I suspect that some of my applications might mis-behave when installed on 2.2. I am planning to add them slowly and watch the battery.
Not here, seems the same to me
Mine is terrible ! I don't know what it might have been on 2.1 as I upgraded fairly quickly. Essentially I charge all night and then disconnect from power at 6:30am and then by 4:30pm I'm out of juice (phone shuts off). Any ideas here? I'm not running anything extravegant (email only) and hardly make any calls.
Whenever you flash to a new ROM, wait for at least a week of normal usage before you judge the battery life. The reason is simple, your battery stats are reset after ROM flash and your new OS needs time to learn how your battery drains before it can give you accurate readings.
If you can't wait for that long, you need follow the battery calibration thread to force a manual calibration of the battery.
I'll give it a week and see how it is then. Definitely is draining much quicker now though. I think It acted similiarly when I first got the phone as well. If I recall correctly the batter life sucked when I first got it, but then a week or so seemed to get much better.
I did the manual battery recalibration (let it die, charge while off, turn on and bump charge...etc). Last night I lost about 2.5% of battery per hour while in standby. This seems improved since calibration but its still pretty terrible IMHO. Is this in line with the amount of drain other are getting or am I draining more than usual?
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I did the manual battery recalibration (let it die, charge while off, turn on and bump charge...etc). Last night I lost about 2.5% of battery per hour while in standby. This seems improved since calibration but its still pretty terrible IMHO. Is this in line with the amount of drain other are getting or am I draining more than usual?
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Running stock since purchasing the Captivate back in August, and so far battery life actually seems to be routinely as good if not better than 2.1. I must admit I didn't use my phone a huge amount yesterday (except for about an hour plus of downloading a bunch of wallpapers off Zedge for some ungodly reason lol), and after 18 hours of the phone being on I was still over 50% battery life left. 2.5% in standby doesn't sound like all is well - you must have something running in the background or similar issue. I have a live background, sync 5 e-mail accounts (granted, only one of those is every 15 minutes - the others are every thirty minutes, every hour, and once a day on two of them), and with light use I am getting over 40 hours with 2.2 so far (about in line with 2.1, but seems maybe just a little better). Heavy use I am dropping more like to the 12 - 18 hour mark (heavy use for me means the screen on more than off, actively playing games or using apps, large amounts of texting, etc. Solid game playing I haven't figured out a drain yet, but on some games it seems like I can drop almost the whole battery in close to 10 hours). At your rate of 2.5% per hour in standby you would only make it forty hours without even using the phone. I have been using mine just a little this morning (FB check, logging in to one of the desktops at work remotely to make some changes, live background running, WiFi sleep policy is set to when screen is off, but to be honest that is about it) and I haven't moved off the 100% mark yet and the phone has been unplugged over an hour and a half.
All that said though, as other users have stated you might want to give it a little more time for the system to recalibrate the battery usage. I would definitely check your processor usage though regularly to see if anything seems 'off'. One thing that caused me problems was that my SNS service would be running but then would get stuck in a pattern of 'Restarting' - would drain my battery rapidly.
It has been said that bettery drain is not linear. First 5% goes real fast. So, you need to judget the average over a day of use, not first hour or so. I'm still in first week of ROM flashing. So I can't confirm anything yet.
See my battery stats recalibration steps here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765656
Also, TheYar has a great write-up on identifying battery drain issues here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=806211

Recent Decrease In Battery Life

Within the last week, the battery life on my Charge has gone to hell. I used to go a full day plus before my battery died. Now I am lucky to make it through the work day without it dying.
Today, my phone has been unplugged for 3 1/2 hours and already down to 45%, and that has been with light use ( a couple of email and texts and one phone call).
What could cause this drastic change? I am on a stock Charge, and I haven't changed anything recently to affect the battery life.
I had this same thing start happening and from what I can tell looking at Watchdog the gallery is burning up the CPU, 60%+ utilization of the CPU and I hadn't even used it since restarting. I turned off syncing with Picasa to see if that helps.
I did a factory reset, and it fixed my battery life problem. After 1 day and 1 hour, I am still at 26% battery. Much, much better.

Don't you have shutdown issues?

As probably many of you already know, there is a shutdown bug mostly affecting Nexus 6p but also other devices as well.
I've been using my Nexus 5 for 3 years until a week ago I got the Nexus 6p, and I had not noticed this issue. However, after having the shutdown a couple of times with the Nexus 6p, I decided to test with the Nexus 5, and I'm finding quite easy to reproduce the problem, what make me wonder why I hadn't read such complains about Nexus 5 before.
Just getting to 15% and spam the camera a little (around 7 photos), and it dies (battery drop 15 to 0). Tested with two Nexus 5.
How old are the batteries in the Nexus 5 phones you used for the test?
You aren't replicating the bug. The camera really does suck down battery life like you wouldn't believe. You are most likely genuinely draining the battery 15%. I've been on a Nougat ROM for a couple of months now and haven't had any sudden battery power off or anything of that nature. I can bring it down to 1% everytime before it dies.
Are you doing this on stock ROM or custom ROMs? What Android version?
everything stock, 6.0.1.
your theory would be ok if the battery remained on 0%. But after turn it on again, some times is indeed at 0%, but other times it's at 15%.
Also, according to that logic, if the device is at 100% and I take 10 photos, my battery should drain to 85%, right?...
It's not a theory. Batteries don't always drain at a linear rate. For example, going from 100% to 85% could take 1 hrs. While going from 15% to 0% could take only 20 mins. This will be made worse by an old or dying battery. When a battery is under load, you have what is called "battery sag." Let's say the battery is at 3.7v. When under heavy load, the voltage could drop to 3.5v or lower, aka: battery sag. When the load is removed, the voltage will jump back up, though not as high as it started because while under that load, it also drained some juice from the battery.
You are probably experiencing heavy battery sag while at 15%, enough to drop the battery voltage low enough for the phone to power off. The heavy load is removed (camera is no longer on), and voila, now the battery is no longer "dead." My first Android phone (Tmobile G1) wouldn't even allow the camera to open if the battery was at 15% or lower. Most likely because the heavy load and subsequent battery sag would cause the phone to power off almost immediately.

Question Battery health

I got my p7p back in December,. I noticed that the battery health is around 97% using FKM and accubattery .. Is there any way to calibrate the battery ? And is it normal to loose 3% over 4 months ?
Do you really think after 3 months of use, your battery health would still be 100%?
Actually I kinda would. Or at least not a hard reduction of 3%.
With a capacity drop up to 20% over 2 to 3 years I would expect 1.5% - 2% in the first couple of months if your phone is in use 24x7.
I'm actually seeing less reduction as I switch off my phone every night and keep ik relatively cool (no gaming). This behavior slows down the formation of dendrites and I have reported drop of 0%. ccu battery reports that I'm still at max capacity and so do several other health checkers. Probably due to rounding off number, realistically my p7p is probably also a bit <100%
Those apps are just rough estimates anyways and it even lists that in Franco. Not sure about Accubattery. I wouldn't worry about it and just use your phone.

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