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Today as the first time I've seen a captivate turned on. It looks like an awesome phone. I talked to the sales guy for a while and he said it was the only worthwhile Android phone AT&T has.
I asked about the Bravo coming out and he didn't seem to stoked on it (plus, I've heard you can't get rid of MOTOBLUR).
Anyways, everything was great until the GPS. The sky was clear but we were indoors and it couldn't get a lock. We updated to the newest firmware (without a hitch, probably because it hadn't been modded) but the GPS did not improve.
I need with the phone because Apps rely on location services and having GPS on a bus or walking is really nice. I'm hoping this gets fixed
Has 2.2 improved the GPS at all? Is the consensus that this is a hardware issue? Is there a difference between newly manufactured phones and older ones?
I want this phone sooo bad and the AT&T lineup for Android phones is garbage (sans this one).
JOe K.
It's a great phone. GPS seems to be hit and miss. If yours is a miss switch it out for a new one. You will love this phone.
I must say, when I was using froyo the GPS worked perfectly. I switched back to stock recently but still have had a great experience with the GPS, its just that it takes about a minute to get a good fix on me instead of the 5 seconds froyo did. For me, it was either this phone or a blackberry torch. Then I remembered that I was considering choosing a RIM product over an android phone, and quickly bought the captivate.
I love it.
And if you have a problem with the phone, well, there's probably an app that fixes it. That's why I love this little monster!
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The sky was clear but we were indoors and it couldn't get a lock.
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lol GPS is not designed to work indoors. Most phones and standalone GPS units will not get a lock indoors. Next time you're at the store, go into settings and enable use wireless networks in location settings. Then you will get your indoor lock.
If you get your location by using wifi it is hardly a gps lock, is it now?
I returned my first Captivate because I wasn't 100% satisfied with the perfomance of the GPS. After flashing Froyo it worked better but not as good as to wait for a new fix.
Yesterday I received a new captivate, I flashed Cognition's 2.2 Beta 5.5 and the GPS is perfect. I did a test drive today and I am very glad I got it replaced. Now I am 100% happy with my Captivate!! It's an awesome phone!!!
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I returned my first Captivate because I wasn't 100% satisfied with the perfomance of the GPS. After flashing Froyo it worked better but not as good as to wait for a new fix.
Yesterday I received a new captivate, I flashed Cognition's 2.2 Beta 5.5 and the GPS is perfect. I did a test drive today and I am very glad I got it replaced. Now I am 100% happy with my Captivate!! It's an awesome phone!!!
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waiting for my 3rd one to come in myself and i have to say its funny. ive had different issues that have caused me to have to return the phone but..somehow...i still think this phone is great! and im starting to think that maybe the best solution for people is to keep trading in their phone till you get one from "the perfect batch" so to say. maybe on this next one the gps will be just perfect as the first was terrible. my current one requires me to stick my arm out the window to navigate *but can lock instantly from standstill*...crossing my fingers and toes when i get the new one
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lol GPS is not designed to work indoors. Most phones and standalone GPS units will not get a lock indoors. Next time you're at the store, go into settings and enable use wireless networks in location settings. Then you will get your indoor lock.
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GPS does work indoors, without wireless turned on. My stand alone unit does too. And I must be one of the lucky ones, bought my phone in July never had a problem with it.
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JOe K. said:
Today as the first time I've seen a captivate turned on. It looks like an awesome phone. I talked to the sales guy for a while and he said it was the only worthwhile Android phone AT&T has.
I asked about the Bravo coming out and he didn't seem to stoked on it (plus, I've heard you can't get rid of MOTOBLUR).
Anyways, everything was great until the GPS. The sky was clear but we were indoors and it couldn't get a lock. We updated to the newest firmware (without a hitch, probably because it hadn't been modded) but the GPS did not improve.
I need with the phone because Apps rely on location services and having GPS on a bus or walking is really nice. I'm hoping this gets fixed
Has 2.2 improved the GPS at all? Is the consensus that this is a hardware issue? Is there a difference between newly manufactured phones and older ones?
I want this phone sooo bad and the AT&T lineup for Android phones is garbage (sans this one).
JOe K.
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I have a Bravo (been testing it) and it is a decent phone, but it is not in the same league as the captivate. GPS is better, but that is the only thing better. It is more a midrange phone - slower, smaller, more plastic, etc.
As for MotoBlur - if you don't use it, it doesn't really bother you - so don't base to much on that.
If GPS is the number one thing you need in a phone - then wait for it to get sorted out or get a different phone. For me, the GPS works well enough. For walking, I can't imagine the GPS not working well enough - and you can generally see 100' in all directions to find what you are looking for anyway - even google maps is not that accurate as they always put stuff on the wrong side of the street or the wrong block.
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GPS does work indoors, without wireless turned on. My stand alone unit does too. And I must be one of the lucky ones, bought my phone in July never had a problem with it.
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Poster said GPS was not DESIGNED to work indoors and he/she is correct. In most buildings it won't work indoors - especially commercial buildings.
If GPS were designed to work indoors it would use a different radio frequency. If it works indoors for you, it is because your house poses little interference - this is more an exception then the norm. In most houses, even standalone units don't work.
Im just wondering if anyone of you who said the gps works perfectly have tried the gps on captivate for several times. To me, the first time using gps whenever I upgrade new firmware or flash back to stock is very good. But after that it is very bad. I dont know if it is just bad using with google navigation, havent tried with offline gps yet. Maybe I should look for an offline gps apps.
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waiting for my 3rd one to come in myself and i have to say its funny. ive had different issues that have caused me to have to return the phone but..somehow...i still think this phone is great! and im starting to think that maybe the best solution for people is to keep trading in their phone till you get one from "the perfect batch" so to say. maybe on this next one the gps will be just perfect as the first was terrible. my current one requires me to stick my arm out the window to navigate *but can lock instantly from standstill*...crossing my fingers and toes when i get the new one
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How are you waiting for your third one? Are you still within the 30 days? Does the 30 days restart when you bring it in for a defect? Are you getting it from Samsung or swapping at an AT&T store? I can't afford to go without a phone for a day (which is sad).
Has there been a correlation between phone manufacturing date and GPS reliability?
Thanks,
JOe K.
GPS was never meant to work indoors. So don't bother to try and get a fix if you're sitting on your couch, that's just dumb.
I just drove to Morgantown, WV to go to WVU to see my friend. I used my GPS on the phone the entire trip. I did not use it as my sole resource for directions, I printed them out. But the entire trip (round trip 400+ miles from Baltimore) the GPS was pretty spot on. A few times it would go off onto the side roads that we're next to I-70 but it fixed itself pretty fast.
I don't believe there is any correlation between when the phone was made and it's reliability. Update to FroYo, and go for a long drive with Google Nav, you'll see a vast improvment.
How does AT&T's 30 day defect warranty return work?
If you get a new phone Does the 30 days restart when you bring it in for a defect? I've seen people get 3 and 4 phones.
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How does AT&T's 30 day defect warranty return work?
If you get a new phone Does the 30 days restart when you bring it in for a defect? I've seen people get 3 and 4 phones.
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Its actually very painless. I am actually OUT of my 30 day warranty but the phone is covered for a year *i dont have the insurance btw...if you do just trade in store*
anyways call ATT and get to their tech support.. they will do some stuff that is required at the first level and then get you to warranty support. they will make sure your phone is still covered by the one year warranty..make you agree that your phone hasnt been put in a toaster or the like and then tell you a new one will be shipped and to send the defective one back in a prepaid RMA...oh this assumes you are in the states so they can send one out from a distribution center. so really no gap since they send you a new one first..just make sure you send the old one back in time or they charge you for a brand new phone
edit: i also wanted to note i bought mine USED off a random stranger..they still honored the one year warranty the very first time i had an issue
Did you have your phone rooted (with diff ROM's such as COG)? If so, did you restore it before sending it back (odin to stock, master clear)?
I'm wondering if Best Buy would have a better warranty policy. I'm gonna get a cap by the end of the week!
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JOe K.
I've been messing with mine a bit and I've tried both the suggested settings as well as the stock ones and it hasn't been that great. Now I am running the stock rom right now. I'm going to update with the OTA one and see if it helps at all tomorrow. If not then I'll likely go ahead and exchange it at AT&T for another unit citing GPS issues while moving. It does get a lock while standing still. Usually once it sees 10 sats it decides to lock on half of them and hold that. It never really got a lock moving though. I had someone else drive while I kept it close to a window and nothing even with wireless assist.
JOe K. said:
Did you have your phone rooted (with diff ROM's such as COG)? If so, did you restore it before sending it back (odin to stock, master clear)?
I'm wondering if Best Buy would have a better warranty policy. I'm gonna get a cap by the end of the week!
Thanks,
JOe K.
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The first one couldnt even power on after a failed flash so i couldnt do anything. on the second i just odin one click to stock and master clear. its possible best buy 'might' have a better policy but being they are still selling through ATT i imagine there is still the 30 day in store policy like most..
just ask about the instore before you buy. i went into this knowing how i would be covered before hand id say do the same here too
This post got lost in a locked thread, figured I would repost it.
It's a real big band-aid, but it works fine for the car and is easier than rolling the dice and getting a new phone.
I spent 20 bucks and got a tom tom bluetooth GPS receiver, combined with a free up on the market called "Bluetooth GPS Provider" and I get 1M accuracy in Maps/Nav. Since I primarily only use the GPS in the car, it's not that big of a deal to leave an accessory in there.
If you need good in car nav, and are tired of waiting for a fix, something like this is the way to go. Tested for over 400 miles of driving, never lost a fix or lost track.
http://www.amazon.com/TomTom-Blueto...I2YY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1292625649&sr=8-1
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http://www.amazon.com/TomTom-Blueto...I2YY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1292625649&sr=8-1
Thats what Samsung should do to resolve the issue, they need to release the Galaxy S GPS Repair Kit. It comes with one of these GPS Receivers and a piece of double-sided sticky tape...EPIC!
Yeah, it's kludgy, but it works great for the car. Only thing that really sucks is that the tomtom doesn't charge from USB, means having to carry another charger too. Oh well, battery last a good long time at least.
Holy markdown batman! $149.99 marked down to $18.99? How could that thing ever be worth $150?!
That's actually kinda tempting.
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Holy markdown batman! $149.99 marked down to $18.99? How could that thing ever be worth $150?!
That's actually kinda tempting.
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That receiver is old school. It's from the pre-smartphone days when everybody rocked iPAQs. The $150 MSRP was normal back then.
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It's still a sirf-star and better than what's working on the captivate right now!
I decided to go the same route as you. Although, I wish I did earlier because that TomTom receiver is longer available for $20 on Amazon. I ended up getting a Globalsat BT-359 for $40.95 instead.
I have to say, while not the ideal solution, it's by far the best one yet. GPS now works perfectly. Fast locks, pinpoint accuracy, no lag, and never loses its lock. It basically works how you expect a GPS to work. While it does suck that I had to spend extra money on the receiver, and that I now have the extra steps of connecting/disconnecting the receiver whenever I need to use it, it's a small price to pay to eliminate the frustration induced when using the poor excuse of a built-in GPS.
I don't know about you guys, but I always had a bit of anxiety when using the built-in GPS. Cuz at every point, I was worrying about something. At the beginning, I'd worry about how long it'd take to obtain a lock. Then once I get the lock, I worry about how accurate it will be, how long I'll keep that lock, and whether or not the GPS will lag behind. It felt like a huge weight was lifted from my shoulders when I was able to drive without having to worry about how the GPS was going to behave.
Although, this still doesn't change my attitude towards Samsung Mobile (I specify Mobile because I've had no issues with their TVs). As soon as AT&T releases a high-end Android phone that doesn't have a deal breaking issue, I'm buying it outright and selling my Captivate on craigslist.
I have a question about this thing: I use BT stereo to play music in the car. Can I use both devices at once?
Me too
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ScottyNuttz said:
I have a question about this thing: I use BT stereo to play music in the car. Can I use both devices at once?
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I'm able to use my bluetooth headset at the same time, so probably.
Donatron said:
I decided to go the same route as you. Although, I wish I did earlier because that TomTom receiver is longer available for $20 on Amazon. I ended up getting a Globalsat BT-359 for $40.95 instead.
I have to say, while not the ideal solution, it's by far the best one yet. GPS now works perfectly. Fast locks, pinpoint accuracy, no lag, and never loses its lock. It basically works how you expect a GPS to work. While it does suck that I had to spend extra money on the receiver, and that I now have the extra steps of connecting/disconnecting the receiver whenever I need to use it, it's a small price to pay to eliminate the frustration induced when using the poor excuse of a built-in GPS.
I don't know about you guys, but I always had a bit of anxiety when using the built-in GPS. Cuz at every point, I was worrying about something. At the beginning, I'd worry about how long it'd take to obtain a lock. Then once I get the lock, I worry about how accurate it will be, how long I'll keep that lock, and whether or not the GPS will lag behind. It felt like a huge weight was lifted from my shoulders when I was able to drive without having to worry about how the GPS was going to behave.
Although, this still doesn't change my attitude towards Samsung Mobile (I specify Mobile because I've had no issues with their TVs). As soon as AT&T releases a high-end Android phone that doesn't have a deal breaking issue, I'm buying it outright and selling my Captivate on craigslist.
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Are you running Eclair or Froyo on your Captivate?
Found it here...
hxxp://dealsproshop.auctivacommerce.com/TomTom-Bluetooth-GPS-Receiver-for-USA-and-Canada-P1259994.aspx#
This is a great idea. Also, if anybody has an older android phone with working gps that they no longer use, the same outcome can be achieved with a couple simple apps. I'm using my lg eve to send the gps signal to my captivate via bluetooth and it works flawlessly.
GPS on Captivate is already fixed, it works great on latest versions of Axura/Phoenix, but for 20 bucks it's good purchase anyway
Too bad that shipping to Europe costs more than reciever itself.
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Are you running Eclair or Froyo on your Captivate?
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Froyo. I'm currently running Cog 2.3b8.
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GPS on Captivate is already fixed, it works great on latest versions of Axura/Phoenix, but for 20 bucks it's good purchase anyway
Too bad that shipping to Europe costs more than reciever itself.
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I haven't tried Phoenix yet, just Axura before it died. When you say "fixed", do you mean significantly improved, or legitimately fixed. Like if you were to do a head-to-head comparison with a Captivate paired with a bluetooth GPS receiver, would you be able to tell the difference? Cuz with the receiver, it's pretty much perfect performance.
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Froyo. I'm currently running Cog 2.3b8.
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I tried to attach a MTK v2 based i-Blue 737A+ Bluetooth GPS Receiver to Eclair, but it says
paired but not connected. However it works great with Galaxy Pad with less then 1 meter accuracy
There seem to be some limitations on the bluetooth. Im able to use any 2 of the gps, my bt headset or my bt obdii scanner, but all three at once and one of em wont work.
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I haven't tried Phoenix yet, just Axura before it died. When you say "fixed", do you mean significantly improved, or legitimately fixed. Like if you were to do a head-to-head comparison with a Captivate paired with a bluetooth GPS receiver, would you be able to tell the difference? Cuz with the receiver, it's pretty much perfect performance.
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It's fully working, reliable GPS device. I don't have Bluetooth reciever, but in comparision to my dedicated Garmin navigation based on legendary SiRFstar III chipset there is no real diffrence, maybe it takes few seconds more to lock, but it's diffrence between like 5 and 10 seconds, so rather negligible in real use.
am i the only one having issues getting my n5 to connect via miracast to my TV (Sony) and headunit (eonon) my g2 connected fine, but the n5 sits on connecting, on the car headunit it shows various steps to connecting and hangs on "waiting for rtsp"
i'm wondering if this is a 4.4 issue, or a n5 issue...
i'm bone stock on the n5 (no root, locked bootloader)
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am i the only one having issues getting my n5 to connect via miracast to my TV (Sony) and headunit (eonon) my g2 connected fine, but the n5 sits on connecting, on the car headunit it shows various steps to connecting and hangs on "waiting for rtsp"
i'm wondering if this is a 4.4 issue, or a n5 issue...
i'm bone stock on the n5 (no root, locked bootloader)
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I went from a Galaxy nexus to an N5 and a lot of stuff broke. My voice dialer for one and wifi is wonky for another. Wireless charging heats up the battery so much I've quit using it.
I really like the g2 and thought about returning the N5 and getting one. Only problem is that when the G2 gets kitkat all of the problems I'm having may very well come back. I hope that isn't the case with Miracast as well although LG will probably do better testing.
Good luck with Miracast. Sorry I don't have a way to test it for you.
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am i the only one having issues getting my n5 to connect via miracast to my TV (Sony) and headunit (eonon) my g2 connected fine, but the n5 sits on connecting, on the car headunit it shows various steps to connecting and hangs on "waiting for rtsp"
i'm wondering if this is a 4.4 issue, or a n5 issue...
i'm bone stock on the n5 (no root, locked bootloader)
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I tried it on my friend's LG TV and my own Samsung and neither would get very far - hope it's a simple software bug
What TV you guys using for miracast... My LG TV says wireless display but nothing about miracast
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Miracast wireless Display
Same issue no connection. N4&N7 A 4.3 work just fine using an adaptor on sony TV
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Same issue no connection. N4&N7 A 4.3 work just fine using an adaptor on sony TV
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so the n4 and n7 on 4.3 work okay but your n5 on 4.4 doesn't?
if so it makes me feel a little better than it's just a software issue that (hopefully) is cleared up soon in an update
Maybe. Both the N5 and 4.4 are different from n4 and 4.3. could be a HW issue. Likely a SW problem.
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Same issue no connection. N4&N7 A 4.3 work just fine using an adaptor on sony TV
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I think there's a little confusion here - I understood this to mean:
You have the same problem with wireless connectivity - this is the same as I have noticed that with my N5 and my friends N4, neither of us could connect
With a cable the N4 and N7 work ok - I would expect this to be the case anyway, although I can't test my N5 with a cable as I don't have the USB to HDMI adapter (only one for my old GNex which was MHL which isn't compatible).
i feel like it's less of a hardware issue since miracast worked fine on my g2 and my note3 which are using the same SoC as the n5. maybe i'll try to flash 4.3 back onto my n7 and see if that connects.
is there any way to send this issue to google so they can be made aware of it?
and of course when i decide to do a logcat to see if i can see what's going on when it's trying to connect the phone (and tablet) decide not to see the tv at all for some reason.
Mis understood
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I think there's a little confusion here - I understood this to mean:
You have the same problem with wireless connectivity - this is the same as I have noticed that with my N5 and my friends N4, neither of us could connect
With a cable the N4 and N7 work ok - I would expect this to be the case anyway, although I can't test my N5 with a cable as I don't have the USB to HDMI adapter (only one for my old GNex which was MHL which isn't compatible).
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Not what I meant to say. The N4 and N7 work as a wireless display over WiFi as expected.
Peter
Tried to connect my N5 to Panasonic BluRay Model 230 - it finds the device, and then when you try to connect it just sits there, and sits there....
Honestly, where the hell is the V&V testing ?
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Not what I meant to say. The N4 and N7 work as a wireless display over WiFi as expected.
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good to know, so it seems to be a 4.4 issue more than a hardware issue.
maybe i'll downgrade my n7 today to test it out. (i was going to do it before but then the 4.4 update was officially released and of course i had to flash that first!)
i also emailed google support today to see what they have to say. it's frustrating not being able to use it in the car since i don't like the actual UI of my headunit.
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am i the only one having issues getting my n5 to connect via miracast to my TV (Sony) and headunit (eonon) my g2 connected fine, but the n5 sits on connecting, on the car headunit it shows various steps to connecting and hangs on "waiting for rtsp"
i'm wondering if this is a 4.4 issue, or a n5 issue...
i'm bone stock on the n5 (no root, locked bootloader)
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Kind of off topic here, but how do you like the Eonon head unit? I was thinking about getting one of those for myself! I'd love to hear your opinion on it.
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good to know, so it seems to be a 4.4 issue more than a hardware issue.
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Could be the make and model of the TV as well. I have an LG LA6200 and my N5 connected to it in about 3 seconds. Watched some youtube just for fun. It works fine on mine.
Edit: Asylum OMNI and Faux latest.
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Could be the make and model of the TV as well. I have an LG LA6200 and my N5 connected to it in about 3 seconds. Watched some youtube just for fun. It works fine on mine.
Edit: Asylum OMNI and Faux latest.
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Hmm if a custom kernel might help it might be enough to get me to unlock the boot loader and have to set up everything again...
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Kind of off topic here, but how do you like the Eonon head unit? I was thinking about getting one of those for myself! I'd love to hear your opinion on it.
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it's pretty nice, it matches and fits in my GTI really well and looks very stock in terms of dials and finish, which i like.
i haven't had it long enough to comment on durability, but so far, i haven't had any issues with it. the UI is pretty responsive and quick (i loaded iGO maps onto it for navigation and it's much more responsive than the stock nav that i had before, i'm legitimately impressed with the navigation fluidity.
the radio reception is worse than stock, but the stock HU uses a dual antenna setup, so it's always going to get better reception, but personally i don't listen to the radio if i can help it. SD card mp3 playback is just as good as stock and sounds fine.
A2DP works fine, but you don't get any id3 metadata, which sucks, but it's fine, it connects to the phone very fast and hasn't dropped the connection once.
the dlna app crashes on my n5, i might try the iphone version on my 5s just to see how it works, but i get all my music from google play so i don't know if that will work anyways.
what i bought it for (miralink) i haven't gotten to work on my n5, but hopefully that will work soon and work well enough, because i would much rather use google maps and the play music app through the HU screen. those two things working even 90% of the time and i'll be a very happy camper.
overall for around $300 shipped to my door, it's really not a bad unit.
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it's pretty nice, it matches and fits in my GTI really well and looks very stock in terms of dials and finish, which i like.
i haven't had it long enough to comment on durability, but so far, i haven't had any issues with it. the UI is pretty responsive and quick (i loaded iGO maps onto it for navigation and it's much more responsive than the stock nav that i had before, i'm legitimately impressed with the navigation fluidity.
the radio reception is worse than stock, but the stock HU uses a dual antenna setup, so it's always going to get better reception, but personally i don't listen to the radio if i can help it. SD card mp3 playback is just as good as stock and sounds fine.
A2DP works fine, but you don't get any id3 metadata, which sucks, but it's fine, it connects to the phone very fast and hasn't dropped the connection once.
the dlna app crashes on my n5, i might try the iphone version on my 5s just to see how it works, but i get all my music from google play so i don't know if that will work anyways.
what i bought it for (miralink) i haven't gotten to work on my n5, but hopefully that will work soon and work well enough, because i would much rather use google maps and the play music app through the HU screen. those two things working even 90% of the time and i'll be a very happy camper.
overall for around $300 shipped to my door, it's really not a bad unit.
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Awesome man, thanks for the info!
Does miracast work then? I'm thinking of getting a dongle, or should I just use slimport
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Anyone else have a 2013 lg TV with miracast? I just got one and there is a 10-15 second lag. Its pretty much worthless.
Is there something I'm missing?
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i've tried it with faux's kernel and francos, both don't work for either of my devices. i emailed google and they replied with troubleshooting info but i haven't had a chance to reply to them and try what they have said (really basic stuff, i don't think it will help)
i refuse to go to crappy crappy touchwiz to make this work, but it makes me sad that i can't use my headunit like i want to.
after having this phone since release i gotta say i was not disappointed, specially since we have a great community to give us the features that lenovo doesn't give us , thank you all very much
i will be moving to a galaxy s8+
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after having this phone since release i gotta say i was not disappointed, specially since we have a great community to give us the features that lenovo doesn't give us , thank you all very much
i will be moving to a galaxy s8+
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Not really digging on Sammy anymore. After having this phone I will never go back to a phone without front firing speakers and a "selfie" flash. I don't give two figs about Moto mods but give me a "refresh" of this phone with updated specs and I'm all in! Otherwise GoodbyeMoto.
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after having this phone since release i gotta say i was not disappointed, specially since we have a great community to give us the features that lenovo doesn't give us , thank you all very much
i will be moving to a galaxy s8+
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Not really sure why you're disappointed with the X, except battery life...
Hope you enjoy your S8+ at 2-3 times the price.
At this time my next phone is unknown...
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Not really sure why you're disappointed with the X, except battery life...
Hope you enjoy your S8+ at 2-3 times the price.
At this time my next phone is unknown...
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Very happy with it, it'll last me another year or two at least If I keep charging up to 90% to help with the long run, but I would have to say my next phone definitely would have front facing speakers and has a big screen, which the newer phones are having bigger screens so that's an easy mark to pass. The front facing speakers though, that's a dying breed now a days because of the new bezeless design of newer flagships.
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I am waiting to see what the Nokia 9 spec are rumoured front facing stereo speakers have a nice big screen ?
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For me it definitely won't be another motorola/lenovo phone.
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I switched to an OnePlus 3T over a month ago and I couldn't be happier. It has really long battery life(6 to 9 hours Screen on time), depending if you are on WiFi or LTE/3G. The performance is the awesome. No Ram management issues (like the Galaxy Phones), everything is smooth and opens instantly. It's the first Android device in 7 years, since I'm using this OS, where my Device isn't modified, cause Oxygen OS is the stock Rom, which I would flash as a Custom ROM. You could modify the Screen density, you have gestures, network traffic monitor, battery percent, no bloatware...(except the gapps)...
The only things I could complain about is the camera in low light and front facing speakers would be nice. Otherwise if someone wants to buy a new phone: get the OP3T.
I recommend the phone to someone who isn't a nerd like me and had the S7 before. He had awful battery life on the S7 and the phone wasn't really faster then the MXP. He had nothing to complain after the switch. He hadn't called me once. I called and asked him what battery life he get's and he told me that his battery lasts 2 to 3 days, without charging.
I'll probably go over to lg g5, xiaomi mi6 ot oneplus 3t whichever gets cheaper
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I switched to an OnePlus 3T over a month ago and I couldn't be happier. It has really long battery life(6 to 9 hours Screen on time), depending if you are on WiFi or LTE/3G. The performance is the awesome. No Ram management issues (like the Galaxy Phones), everything is smooth and opens instantly. It's the first Android device in 7 years, since I'm using this OS, where my Device isn't modified, cause Oxygen OS is the stock Rom, which I would flash as a Custom ROM. You could modify the Screen density, you have gestures, network traffic monitor, battery percent, no bloatware...(except the gapps)...
The only things I could complain about is the camera in low light and front facing speakers would be nice. Otherwise if someone wants to buy a new phone: get the OP3T.
I recommend the phone to someone who isn't a nerd like me and had the S7 before. He had awful battery life on the S7 and the phone wasn't really faster then the MXP. He had nothing to complain after the switch. He hadn't called me once. I called and asked him what battery life he get's and he told me that his battery lasts 2 to 3 days, without charging.
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It is just a damn shame the OP3T is GSM only, for those of us in the US. I get it, though; it's an international device and the CDMA market is too small globally to be worth changing the whole design over. Other than that, it seems like as close to a perfect phone as you'll find in today's compromised market.
My next will be Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge or S8+. This probably won't happen until around Black Friday. I'm really fond of my Moto X but miss Touch Wiz.
I will try to go to iPhone. I'm really disappointed in Android and in Lenovo.
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I will try to go to iPhone. I'm really disappointed in Android and in Lenovo.
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Being disappointed in Lenovo is one thing. But in Android in general...a google phone is the only way to go to get consistent updates. Otherwise, there is no guarantees with any OEM. Nearly every OEM out there has pretty much pulls this same stuff. Typically devices within 12 months of release are updated quickly (relatively) and thereafter, the newest phones become priority. By 24 months support is non-existent.
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Being disappointed in Lenovo is one thing. But in Android in general...a google phone is the only way to go to get consistent updates. Otherwise, there is no guarantees with any OEM. Nearly every OEM out there has pretty much pulls this same stuff. Typically devices within 12 months of release are updated quickly (relatively) and thereafter, the newest phones become priority. By 24 months support is non-existent.
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I just don't like android anymore (and google phones don't work for me). Every OEM builds its propietary implementation of everything, no one want to "join" forces so they can make android a good, stable, securo and safe OS.
I'm tired of that. I just want something that works, that is built for the user (and not built so the user has to work to make things work).
I want the following:
1. Unlocked bootloader.
2. Works on Verizon.
3. uSDcard
4. Removable battery.
Suggestions?
I agree with the 3T if your on GSM get it I've also switched and man was it worth it I even relocked my bootloader and stayed on stock it's that good I get 4 or 5 hours SOT when I'm at work and I got terrible service there and don't even need to charge midday I'll have 15% before I plug in when I hit the bed when I'm not at work I'll get 2 days with 7 hr SOT it's a beast hands down no root or mods
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I want the following:
1. Unlocked bootloader.
2. Works on Verizon.
3. uSDcard
4. Removable battery.
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Only 3 current phones fit 3 of 4 of these requirements... All are LG, the G5, V10, and V20... But the LG G5 is the ONLY device available that fits all these requirements since it has an unofficial bootloader unlock, the others do not have an unlockable bootloader.
Not much of a choice in my book...
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Only 3 current phones fit 3 of 4 of these requirements... All are LG, the G5, V10, and V20... But the LG G5 is the ONLY device available that fits all these requirements since it has an unofficial bootloader unlock, the others do not have an unlockable bootloader.
Not much of a choice in my book...
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Yep. This is the reason why I have given in on the removable battery option, hence this phone. I'm not on a CDMA network now, but I want the option to switch should I so choose.
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I just don't like android anymore (and google phones don't work for me). Every OEM builds its propietary implementation of everything, no one want to "join" forces so they can make android a good, stable, securo and safe OS.
I'm tired of that. I just want something that works, that is built for the user (and not built so the user has to work to make things work).
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Then I say go for the iPhone. My general opinion is that Android was partially designed with the idea of customizing the user experience.
As far as being a secure OS, Android itself is secure. With security updates being provided regularly now, it is more so. Honestly, a Google phone, aka Pixel, will get timely updates, doesn't require mods to be usable, and has the option to customize should you choose to do so. And not to mention no proprietary software causing security issues (here's looking at you LG).
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I just don't like android anymore (and google phones don't work for me). Every OEM builds its propietary implementation of everything, no one want to "join" forces so they can make android a good, stable, securo and safe OS.
I'm tired of that. I just want something that works, that is built for the user (and not built so the user has to work to make things work).
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Apple is doing its proprietary implementation of everything too, it's even worse than android devices.
And why having each OEM making their UX for android make it unsecure, unstable and unsafe ?
User having to work to make things work ? isn't your phone working as the OEM intended it to be ? you bought your phone not knowing what it can or can't do ? I wont buy a phone that can't have a specific feature that i need and then complain that i have to implement it by myself
Your arguments to explain why you're moving to IOS are flimsy.
You can be bored of android, or wanting to try IOS, but man android unsafe, unsecure or unstable ? custom roms can be unstable, but it's not the OEM fault.
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Yep. This is the reason why I have given in on the removable battery option, hence this phone. I'm not on a CDMA network now, but I want the option to switch should I so choose.
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I gave up on CDMA and Verizon in general about 4 years ago with a Nexus 4... I've bounced between a few providers since then, will never go back to Verizon. I pay $36 per month per line for unlimited calls and texts, and 8GB of unthrottled AT&T LTE data per line. I'll deal with marginal service in a few rural areas I rarely go as a trade-off.
No USB Driver > No MTP Mode > No LG Support Tools/Bridge/PC Suite? Support Sucks
I bought this phone from Fido on Black Friday last year. Immediately realized that there wasn't a USB driver for it and the Windows MTP driver in Win 10 does squat. This means that the phone will not be seen by LG Support Tools, Bridge or even the old PC Suite. There is no MTP mode in the settings either. USB Debugging is easy enough to find in the Dev settings, the USB mode status shows up in notifications no issue but MTP is MIA and PTP does not allow the tools to see the phone.
The LG support site has not changed one iota since release of this phone. In fact, LG couldn't even be bothered to post anything beyond the generic info that tells you to download support tools and install the non-existant USB driver. Good Grief! They released it and immediately abandoned it. I called LG as soon as I realized the driver issue and was assured it would be addressed. That was Black Friday and here we are in March and nothing, absolutely nothing. I tried their online chat and after a couple of minutes the service rep left, never to return. I called LG Canada Support and guess what, wonder of wonders I'm transfered to a call centre in the GD Philipines where the rep knew absolutely nothing!
I'm in contact with Fido with every intention of returning this phone. I'm not paying for 2 years for a phone that there seems to be 0 interest in supporting.
If anyone has discovered solutions to these issues by all means let me know but AFAIK there are none.
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I bought this phone from Fido on Black Friday last year. Immediately realized that there wasn't a USB driver for it and the Windows MTP driver in Win 10 does squat. This means that the phone will not be seen by LG Support Tools, Bridge or even the old PC Suite. There is no MTP mode in the settings either. USB Debugging is easy enough to find in the Dev settings, the USB mode status shows up in notifications no issue but MTP is MIA and PTP does not allow the tools to see the phone.
The LG support site has not changed one iota since release of this phone. In fact, LG couldn't even be bothered to post anything beyond the generic info that tells you to download support tools and install the non-existant USB driver. Good Grief! They released it and immediately abandoned it. I called LG as soon as I realized the driver issue and was assured it would be addressed. That was Black Friday and here we are in March and nothing, absolutely nothing. I tried their online chat and after a couple of minutes the service rep left, never to return. I called LG Canada Support and guess what, wonder of wonders I'm transfered to a call centre in the GD Philipines where the rep knew absolutely nothing!
I'm in contact with Fido with every intention of returning this phone. I'm not paying for 2 years for a phone that there seems to be 0 interest in supporting.
If anyone has discovered solutions to these issues by all means let me know but AFAIK there are none.
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Hi, I have off topic question, did you receive feb security update? Its already March now.
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Hi, I have off topic question, did you receive feb security update? Its already March now.
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Nope...Phone shows Jan 1, 2019 as latest security patch date. Honestly I hadn't even looked, I'm so pissed off at LG and this phone. I can't be rid of it soon enough. I was really excited about Android One and gace up wireless charging, more RAM etc and am so disappointed. With only 32Gb and not even being able to reliably get phots on to the SD or apps as it seems the dev option to force install apps doesn't do squat. My 32GB is almost full already and I have a near empty 64GB SD card that I really can't do much with.
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Nope...Phone shows Jan 1, 2019 as latest security patch date. Honestly I hadn't even looked, I'm so pissed off at LG and this phone. I can't be rid of it soon enough. I was really excited about Android One and gace up wireless charging, more RAM etc and am so disappointed. With only 32Gb and not even being able to reliably get phots on to the SD or apps as it seems the dev option to force install apps doesn't do squat. My 32GB is almost full already and I have a near empty 64GB SD card that I really can't do much with.
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we are on the same boat, but I'm fine with 32 GB. I bought this phone only because pure android experience with monthly security update. LG can't even keep their promise to provide update monthly, disappointed.
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we are on the same boat, but I'm fine with 32 GB. I bought this phone only because pure android experience with monthly security update. LG can't even keep their promise to provide update monthly, disappointed.
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Well one way or another I'll be rid of it. Either Fido or LG is going to take this dog back and get me into something else... Monday I have the day off and will be headed to the Fido Store and it will be handled.
What a monumental waste of time!
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Well one way or another I'll be rid of it. Either Fido or LG is going to take this dog back and get me into something else... Monday I have the day off and will be headed to the Fido Store and it will be handled.
What a monumental waste of time!
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How did it go?
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How did it go?
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So after multiple calls and finally ending up dealing with retention, I am headed in tomorrow (Friday) to trade in the G7 One for a Samsung Galaxy S8. Between the trade-in value of the LG, the goodwill credits I negotiated and finally with a discount I worked out on my monthly, I actually end up ahead of where I would have been had I kept the Lg, from a $$ standpoint for starters. Little older phone but one I am quite familiar with as my wife has one so I know exactly what I am getting and will have no issue with it. The S8 was the phone I was originally going to grab in the first place but I got distracted by a bigger prepaid visa offer and the hype of the One OS. I should have stuck to my guns and avoided the hassle.
According to Versus, the S8 is a better phone anyway. https://versus.com/en/lg-g7-one-vs-samsung-galaxy-s8
I almost forgot to mention, I could have had an S9 instead but would not have gotten the monthly discount on my plan so opeted for the S8 instead. The S8 and 9 are not so far apart that I thought it would be worth it paying the extra.
Wait does this mean you can't even plug it in a pc to transfer files ?
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Wait does this mean you can't even plug it in a pc to transfer files ?
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You are able to do that but thats all you can do. You can't even format the SD card from your PC. No backup tools unless you want to use/buy 3rd party, none of which are any good unless your phone is rooted IMHO anyway. The back-up measure you have, as is, is to you Google drive but even that doesnt wotk properly as if you even think about adjusting prefs for pics the interface locks up forcing you to back out by quitting. It was like that from day 1. LG initially told me they would be releasing drivers/tools forthwith and kept up that charade until just recently when they basically told me that it was Google's fault. Between that and the now completely MIA seurity updates enough was enough..
Didnt even bother to mention the lackluster performance as well. Both CSR2 Racing and Asphalt 9 were unable to run at full spec without them having issues. Pretty sad for what was supposed to be a flagship phone.
A tiny delay for me but this morning I am on my way to the FIDO store to rid myself of this POS and get a Galaxy S8 in its place.
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You are able to do that but thats all you can do. You can't even format the SD card from your PC. No backup tools unless you want to use/buy 3rd party, none of which are any good unless your phone is rooted IMHO anyway. The back-up measure you have, as is, is to you Google drive but even that doesnt wotk properly as if you even think about adjusting prefs for pics the interface locks up forcing you to back out by quitting. It was like that from day 1. LG initially told me they would be releasing drivers/tools forthwith and kept up that charade until just recently when they basically told me that it was Google's fault. Between that and the now completely MIA seurity updates enough was enough..
Didnt even bother to mention the lackluster performance as well. Both CSR2 Racing and Asphalt 9 were unable to run at full spec without them having issues. Pretty sad for what was supposed to be a flagship phone.
A tiny delay for me but this morning I am on my way to the FIDO store to rid myself of this POS and get a Galaxy S8 in its place.
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Thank you for the reply, this phone was on my go to list after my 6p dies but not sure anymore, it seems all the models offered to me aren't rootable and won't ever be, I am sad. This phone had sd card headphone jack and notification light, but no root is a real big deal. Lets hope my 6p hangs on for long while.
Bl__nk said:
Thank you for the reply, this phone was on my go to list after my 6p dies but not sure anymore, it seems all the models offered to me aren't rootable and won't ever be, I am sad. This phone had sd card headphone jack and notification light, but no root is a real big deal. Lets hope my 6p hangs on for long while.
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And security updates are non-existent... still on January
just tested out the usb connection on my linux machine - it shows up in the file explorer as an MTP device, and when running lsusb from a command line i get this: Bus 001 Device 004: ID 1004:631c LG Electronics, Inc. G2/Optimus Android Phone [MTP mode]
pretty messed up but pretty typical LG to not have a proper full function driver, i really get the impression that they don't care about their mobile phone division at all... i mean, the usb cable that came in the box won't even do 18w charging, i had to grab a heavier gauge monoprice one before my inline voltage tester would show above 12w... like, they saved a few cents per unit skimping on a cable? wow lol, classy company!
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just tested out the usb connection on my linux machine - it shows up in the file explorer as an MTP device, and when running lsusb from a command line i get this: Bus 001 Device 004: ID 1004:631c LG Electronics, Inc. G2/Optimus Android Phone [MTP mode]
pretty messed up but pretty typical LG to not have a proper full function driver, i really get the impression that they don't care about their mobile phone division at all... i mean, the usb cable that came in the box won't even do 18w charging, i had to grab a heavier gauge monoprice one before my inline voltage tester would show above 12w... like, they saved a few cents per unit skimping on a cable? wow lol, classy company!
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I got mine on Black Friday from Fido. It went back to Fido last week. It was a bit of a chore/fight but they took it back and I walked out of the store with a Galaxy S8 as a straight swap and even managed to get a 25% loyalty credit applied to my monthly, for all the hassle. That's saying something as I was on a grandfathered medium plan that not only no longer exists but that was already dirt cheap. It took dealing with retentions first and then the office of the president, at Fido, but in the end they treated me what i feel was quite fairly under the circumstances.
The Galaxy S8 btw completely walks all over the G7 One performance wise. making the LG experience even more of a disappointment.