Related
Since we've been talking about Pie in at least four different threads, I thought I'd create a single one to address, list and possibly fix all the issues that are being experienced with the gradual release of Android 9 on Nokia 7 Plus. Mods: I'm assuming this is helpful, but if you think this thread is redundant feel free to delete it.
IMPORTANT: Before you do anything or think something is broken, make sure you restart the phone twice once you've installed the update. If issues are still there, you might go for a hard reset which is always helpful for creating a clean system environment.
In any case, you're welcome to add to this list and help others find solutions. This is what I found so far:
Battery draining
Most users noticed a decrease in SOT, for some this is even 2-3 hours less than on Oreo. While it might be peculiar to Pie itself, it is worth noticing that the new Adaptive Battery feature takes some time to adjust according to how you use your phone and learn what apps to handle and how. You should also check that no app permissions have changed since the update, or that no unwanted processes are misbehaving because of it (see below).
@trveller72 points out a neat trick: deactivating the automatic Battery Saver (Settings > Battery > Battery Saver > UNCHECK "Turn on automatically") seems to extend battery life a lot.
Heating issues
Regardless of the SOT, these should not be there. I experienced the thing myself and in deep October no phone should burn into one's pocket, whether idle or when doing some light browsing. If you're having heating issues, this is most likely related to processes misbehaving and abusing your CPU when they shouldn't (either because of an application bug, or because of something gone wrong after the update). In this case you should launch the ADB command
Code:
adb shell top
which returns the CPU usage of your phone (make sure, of course, the phone is connected to your computer and has USB debugging enabled). This might give you an idea of anything strange going on and allow you to act accordingly. Or you could go for a hard reset like I did, which is a nice overkill solution and grants that you carry over no unwanted issues from Oreo - and it also recovered some SOT for me.
No adaptive brightness fade effect
I experienced this myself: the screen goes from 0 to 100 brightness in a millisecond and you're blinded forever, never to see your loved ones' faces again. This might possibly be an issue with the personal settings brought over from Oreo. In my case, I solved it to a degree by playing with the bar a bit, and it was solved completely with a hard reset. I think the fade effect is a bit faster in Pie anyway, so there is a degree of difference you should not worry about.
App notifications not disappearing
Notifications for some apps tend not to disappear when you swipe over them. For instance, this is true with the "HDR processing" progress bar of the PixelCamera mod (or better yet, in some versions of it). No fix for now, you just have to force quit the app and hope it is made compatible soon.
UI and Animation glitches
As with all first releases, this one is not perfect yet. I've personally encountered some animation glitches with the reception of nested notifications (especially in the lock screen), non-standard DPI settings, app-switch animations, volume control when writing on your keyboard, and minor stuff of the sort. While most of these are system-related and will have to be fixed in next releases, for in-app glitches make sure they are correctly updated and compatible with Pie; you could also try deleting cache/data, uninstalling and reinstalling them.
In particular, some report an issue where the bottom part of the touchscreen stops working after prolonged inactivity, regardless of the navbar settings. @k3dar7 suggests using XDA Navigation Gestures (no root).
Digital Wellbeing
Yes, this is not compatible with Nokia 7 Plus yet, despite it being in DP4 (iirc), the feature is still unavailable although installed on the phone and already collecting data, and can be enabled by subscribing to the beta program (thank you @divvykev). Downloading it as an app from Play Store won't be possible, but @Redcap56 kindly points out that a working version is available for download at APKMirror.
"Non-issues"
(i.e. things you're probably complaining about but are actually feature-dependant)
- The new gesture-based navigation is not available. It's there, but you have to turn it on under Settings > System > Gestures > Swipe up on Home button
- Mobile data is always active even when on a Wi-Fi. Yes, unlike before it is, but you can turn this feature off in Developer Settings.
- There is a maximum number of possible notification icons before the dreaded "etc. dot" appears. Nothing that can be done, unfortunately. This was decided by Google regardless of not all phones having a notch.
- File Manager is gone. And FilesGo is now there, like the child you never wanted. And most likely you never wanted it because it doesn't allow you to browse folders. The old file manager can still be accessed through the Download app or in System > Storage > Files. If you can't see the internal memory, make sure the option is ticked in the three-dot dropdown menu.
Digital Wellbeing does work!
Installing from apkmirror worked for me: apk/google-inc/digital-wellbeing (I am still not allowed to post url)
Redcap56 said:
Installing from apkmirror worked for me: apk/google-inc/digital-wellbeing (I am still not allowed to post url)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the heads-up, it works indeed.
By the way, before getting the APKMirror version I had just found out that Digital Wellbeing is actually installed on the phone, just inactive.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vYzZE5zB3LNLAckAUlRMkWoXPMjkD42M/view?usp=sharing
When I updated it with the APKMirror one it could show me statistics from all the past day, which means two things: one, it's already collecting data and it's creepy. Two, it's in a working state as it was in DP, so shall we expect that it becomes activated with the next OTA? (or when marketing-wise it's no longer important to make it Pixel-exclusive?)
If I search on internet, Digital Wellbeing is only available on beta version for Pixel phones on Android Pie only.
I think, when the beta is finished, we have all access to this functionality
Wellbeing is available. I found it be looking for the app in the store but found that it was installed. Signed up for the beta and hey presto....there it is. Can't see it being of any use to man or beast but hey ho.
Am on Pie stable btw.
divvykev said:
Wellbeing is available. I found it be looking for the app in the store but found that it was installed. Signed up for the beta and hey presto....there it is. Can't see it being of any use to man or beast but hey ho.
Am on Pie stable btw.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you.
I checked yesterday and was saying that you need a Pixel phone to install it. Today I just had to join the beta program and voilla!
divvykev said:
Wellbeing is available. I found it be looking for the app in the store but found that it was installed. Signed up for the beta and hey presto....there it is. Can't see it being of any use to man or beast but hey ho.
Am on Pie stable btw.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you, I don't find it useful either but this is good information indeed! Post updated.
I don't see any difference between latest beta and this so called stable one, all the issues persists.
Phone heating is really pain in the a$$, especially while charging (most of the time, not always though). I have seen "Temp High, Stop Charging" notification 3 times in a row now.
I have some issues with displaying apps since Pie. For example, when I'm playing music with Youtube Music and Maps has a picture-in-picture overlay the YouTube music app will flicker heavily and the album art won't be visible anymore.
Same for the normal YouTube app and SwiftKey.
Anyone else experiences this?
PiotrekV said:
I have some issues with displaying apps since Pie. For example, when I'm playing music with Youtube Music and Maps has a picture-in-picture overlay the YouTube music app will flicker heavily and the album art won't be visible anymore.
Same for the normal YouTube app and SwiftKey.
Anyone else experiences this?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
In Snapchat messages, the screen can flicker so much it's unusable. It's usually cause by putting the cursor before an already typed word.
shailendra1993 said:
I don't see any difference between latest beta and this so called stable one, all the issues persists.
Phone heating is really pain in the a$$, especially while charging (most of the time, not always though). I have seen "Temp High, Stop Charging" notification 3 times in a row now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
High temperature while charging is very, very bad. If you can't solve this, I'd suggest you go back to Oreo before the battery is ruined.
In any case: did you update directly from DP? Did you check for strange processes via ADB? If you haven't done it, a hard reset can be very helpful as well.
PiotrekV said:
I have some issues with displaying apps since Pie. For example, when I'm playing music with Youtube Music and Maps has a picture-in-picture overlay the YouTube music app will flicker heavily and the album art won't be visible anymore.
Same for the normal YouTube app and SwiftKey.
Anyone else experiences this?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
RancidPenguins said:
In Snapchat messages, the screen can flicker so much it's unusable. It's usually cause by putting the cursor before an already typed word.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not with the same apps, but I experience this as well. Only advice I can give is to try what you can for single apps (i.e. clear cache/data, uninstall, reinstall) but you probably did that already. If it isn't solved this way, only the next OTA (and/or the next app update) will solve it.
But yeah, this is definitely a thing. I have heavy flicker in some setup wizards for Google apps (most notably Lens) and the volume control will flicker at all times if shown while typing on the keyboard.
valexbast said:
High temperature while charging is very, very bad. If you can't solve this, I'd suggest you go back to Oreo before the battery is ruined.
In any case: did you update directly from DP? Did you check for strange processes via ADB? If you haven't done it, a hard reset can be very helpful as well.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, updated directly from DP. I have done factory reset, Hard reset is necessary?
shailendra1993 said:
Yes, updated directly from DP. I have done factory reset, Hard reset is necessary?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually that should suffice AFAIK. If I were you, I'd try downgrading to a stable Oreo and updating from there. I'm really not sure about it, but probably some bad code is brought over from the beta? But that temperature is definitely not normal, especially if you already did a factory reset.
valexbast said:
Actually that should suffice AFAIK. If I were you, I'd try downgrading to a stable Oreo and updating from there. I'm really not sure about it, but probably some bad code is brought over from the beta? But that temperature is definitely not normal, especially if you already did a factory reset.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Maybe some app is behaving inapppropriately. I have done Hard Reset and will see if the problem still persists, else I will degrade.
shailendra1993 said:
Maybe some app is behaving inapppropriately. I have done Hard Reset and will see if the problem still persists, else I will degrade.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not sure if you did that already, but the adb command I wrote in the first post can be useful to check that. Good luck anyway!
The stable pie update is a full rom, not an incremental update, so it doesn't matter from which version you are upgrading, after a reset, no trace of the old operating system remains
I might be wrong but I think the issue with the screen on time not lasting as long as it did in oreo in one of the updates they decreased the speed the battery charges or the curve it charges at, I can't remember where it was mentioned but there were issues and they said it will be addressed in pie, this could be related to the battery getting hot while charging as mentioned by @valexbast .I personally haven't had this issue with screen on time being less but I use my old Samsung charger 2Amp 5V most of the time.
I am having (albiet minor) bugs when adjusting the display density and font size both to their smallest. The lock screen pin entry sticks to the left side of the screen, and notifications & quick settings change themselves randomly to the wrong density and back again. Nokia support refuses to acknowledge these bugs exist but I have seen a few people around the web with similar issues. I did not have any of these issues on DP4 which is interesting!
occasionallyhavingeyes said:
I am having (albiet minor) bugs when adjusting the display density and font size both to their smallest. The lock screen pin entry sticks to the left side of the screen, and notifications & quick settings change themselves randomly to the wrong density and back again. Nokia support refuses to acknowledge these bugs exist but I have seen a few people around the web with similar issues. I did not have any of these issues on DP4 which is interesting!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
While helpful, I noticed that Nokia support is often instructed to "pacify" the user and assure them everything is normal. But I guess they're taking notes. I haven't tried changing display/font size but the bugs you describe should be easy enough to fix in the next update.
I don't think any of this is app-related anyway, even when we're talking notifications from certain apps. So here's to waiting.
Edit: by the way, I'm a long-time lurker and only newish user so I'm really not a veteran, but hey... welcome to XDA!
Hi all, I'm a very unhappy bunny right now, bought the P20 last year on Vodafone UK. All was fab, loved it. I received an OTA pie update and now many of my apps aggressively closer in the background if they're off focus. Particularity hard for browser pages with a login. The app reloads and I have to log in, again, and again. It has rendered it effectively unable to multi task. (Much like me really). Even as I type this I'm afraid of losing the screen as I received WhatsApp messages. What am I doing wrong? It must be met since I can find no other instances of my problem anywhere.
Cheers
Mark
Anyone able to offer any advice here?
have the same problem. Multitasking on 8.1 worked like a charm, now with pie it sometimes closes my Spotify even if there are 2gigs of ram available
Same problem here, haven't found any solution to this problem yet
I changed the App-Starts to manuell and back to automatic and it seams to work for now...
That's simple. You can control your app activity simply by using Battery Optimizer and set permissions from automatic to manual. Also in System Settings type "ignore battery optimization" you will see a list of apps that are allowed to be ignored while the phone falls asleep or being optimized and you can add more apps if you need to and allow them to be ignored.
hwandroid said:
That's simple. You can control your app activity simply by using Battery Optimizer and set permissions from automatic to manual. Also in System Settings type "ignore battery optimization" you will see a list of apps that are allowed to be ignored while the phone falls asleep or being optimized and you can add more apps if you need to and allow them to be ignored.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It works for a few hours than the systems ignors my stettings and kills the background apps again. In 8.1 everything worked fine
PuzzleFoco said:
It works for a few hours than the systems ignors my stettings and kills the background apps again. In 8.1 everything worked fine
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Might be a bug, needs to check. I'm still waiting for EMUI9 on my device.
hwandroid said:
Might be a bug, needs to check. I'm still waiting for EMUI9 on my device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm think about rolling back to 8.1
Rolled back to 8.1 everythings fine now. Hopefully Huawei will fix this problem with pie
Well to tell you the truth guys I just have received an update to EMUI 9 and I don't face any issues at all, I have apps which I need to be running in the background and as I stated before I just moved the badges in App launch section from Automatic to Manual and it's all ok as on EMUI 8.
My Blackview BV9900 phone kills all previously running, auto-start processes upon reboot and even when coming out of sleep mode after a few seconds/minutes, including its own accessibility suite app.
1. Widgets and auto-start apps like weather, antivirus, applock, screen lock, system network (from phone setting like LTE/UTMS), system accessibility suite app, etc., do not start automatically with the phone. All apps have to be started manually at each reboot of the phone.
2. Rebooting the phone kills all these and other auto-starting apps and resets them to "killed" even when they are in the whitelist. They are also killed after a few seconds of sleep mode.
The Blackview forums have offered no solution.(s) or workaround.
Software Version: BV9900_EEA_S900AA_V1.0_20200522V12_20200523-0035.
Please, suggest solution that can make me use it like other smartphones. I stopped using the phone after a few days of receiving it as a result of the frustrations experienced.
Hello,
I'am sorry, I don't have solution but the same problem.
I received a BV9900E a few days ago. it's a nice phone.
But... I have the same problem. I would like to put a custom launcher with custom widgets and custom animated wallpaper. But if I shut down my phone, I lost all my settings, the widgets and wallpaper. All must be reinstalled, and/or reconfigured.
I try to use whiteliste, did several tries and try various solutions found on the net but nothing helped ... I lose everything on each restart. Only stock widgets work.
I think I have found the beginning of an explanation here: https://bbs.blackview.hk/viewtopic.php?t=532725
Does anyone have a solution, can help?
I am not an expert for rooting phone and try like on the Blackview topic, but i don't find BV9900E/Android 10 specific stock ROM for now.
Any solution is welcome !
Thank you in advance for your answers.
Modèle : BV9900E
System : Android 10
Num serie : BV9900EQEE002138
Build : BV9900E_EEA_S900AA_V1.0_20201103V04
mierlu said:
Hello,
I'am sorry, I don't have solution but the same problem.
I received a BV9900E a few days ago. it's a nice phone.
But... I have the same problem. I would like to put a custom launcher with custom widgets and custom animated wallpaper. But if I shut down my phone, I lost all my settings, the widgets and wallpaper. All must be reinstalled, and/or reconfigured.
I try to use whiteliste, did several tries and try various solutions found on the net but nothing helped ... I lose everything on each restart. Only stock widgets work.
I think I have found the beginning of an explanation here: https://bbs.blackview.hk/viewtopic.php?t=532725
Does anyone have a solution, can help?
I am not an expert for rooting phone and try like on the Blackview topic, but i don't find BV9900E/Android 10 specific stock ROM for now.
Any solution is welcome !
Thank you in advance for your answers.
Modèle : BV9900E
System : Android 10
Num serie : BV9900EQEE002138
Build : BV9900E_EEA_S900AA_V1.0_20201103V04
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I contacted the Blackview helpdesk who responded to me that that was how the BV9900 was designed to work, and that there was nothing that they could do; no work-around too.
Ok thank you !
I also asked Blackview helpdesk. No answer yet.
But if there are no solutions or i can't find any solutions, I will finally ask for a refund because I want to be able to do whatever I want with my phone. I bought a phone and not a forced bloqued system. it's not a problem for me!
gilbolong said:
My Blackview BV9900 phone kills all previously running, auto-start processes upon reboot and even when coming out of sleep mode after a few seconds/minutes, including its own accessibility suite app.
1. Widgets and auto-start apps like weather, antivirus, applock, screen lock, system network (from phone setting like LTE/UTMS), system accessibility suite app, etc., do not start automatically with the phone. All apps have to be started manually at each reboot of the phone.
2. Rebooting the phone kills all these and other auto-starting apps and resets them to "killed" even when they are in the whitelist. They are also killed after a few seconds of sleep mode.
The Blackview forums have offered no solution.(s) or workaround.
Software Version: BV9900_EEA_S900AA_V1.0_20200522V12_20200523-0035.
Please, suggest solution that can make me use it like other smartphones. I stopped using the phone after a few days of receiving it as a result of the frustrations experienced.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same problem here with my BV9900 pro.
1. After reboot, some app is not auto start-up. If Mi phone, they can set Auto Start-Up.
2. App was killed, I already set Battery Not Optimized , and Locked in White List. But some apps no help.
Hello there, have someone updated this rom and rooted it?
I tried many times, downloaded the stock, flashed it, installed magisk/twrp rooted it.
But the BV9900_EEA_S900AA_V1.0_20200522V12_20200523-0035 will not work
gilbolong said:
I contacted the Blackview helpdesk who responded to me that that was how the BV9900 was designed to work, and that there was nothing that they could do; no work-around too.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
May I ask if you ever found a solution? I just received my new Blackview BV9900E today and am trying to find out what is possible / or not to do with it.
Thank you in advance for any reply
Frankie
FrankieChen said:
May I ask if you ever found a solution? I just received my new Blackview BV9900E today and am trying to find out what is possible / or not to do with it.
Thank you in advance for any reply
Frankie
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Greetings.
No solution from me yet. What I have tried to do is to avoid rebooting the phone after I have completed the settings.
So sad.
gilbolong said:
Greetings.
No solution from me yet. What I have tried to do is to avoid rebooting the phone after I have completed the settings.
So sad.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for taking the time to reply
Hi
There is a hidden app named DuraSpeed that mess things up . According to blackview it's only in android 9 , but i found it in my android 10. I disabled the app close functions there. Now things seems to behave better. Using the whitelist us not enough.. go to settings and then apps & notifications. Search for dura and open it
Thanks for pointing us towards duraspeed. I will try disabling it and provide feedback.
gilbolong said:
Thanks for pointing us towards duraspeed. I will try disabling it and provide feedback.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have been running it disabled for a week now and my lock screen has a lot of more updates from apps. Messenger also works when phone is not used.
Below 15% battery I still have some issues on some apps (ring doorbell ) even tho I have configured android to override battery saving settings.
To me it seems that Duraspeed is a mistake in the andorid10 version for the phone carried over from the andriod 9 rom. Its supposed to only be on the android9 Rom for blackview.
I wish it was an easy way to just remove these proprietary power saving apps.
I have not tested if apps autostarts after reboot of the phone or if i have to manually start them.
Andreaswin said:
I have been running it disabled for a week now and my lock screen has a lot of more updates from apps. Messenger also works when phone is not used.
Below 15% battery I still have some issues on some apps (ring doorbell ) even tho I have configured android to override battery saving settings.
To me it seems that Duraspeed is a mistake in the andorid10 version for the phone carried over from the andriod 9 rom. Its supposed to only be on the android9 Rom for blackview.
I wish it was an easy way to just remove these proprietary power saving apps.
I have not tested if apps autostarts after reboot of the phone or if i have to manually start them.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the response. Disabling Duraspeed seems to have worked.
I tried this : I fixed one line in the /system/build.prop file:
ro.freeme_freemanager=1
ro.hct_autostart_manager=1
In these lines you need to change 1 to 0
I tried a lot of solution, but nothing worked. This solution work perfectly!
Note: the launcher "Evie" v2.14.8 work well with or without this solution. This the only one application was working before a did this solution!
Hi guys,
Today i switched from OP7t to OP8t but i have a problem with push notifications in email apps (yahoo, web, gmail).
The notifications are comming only after opening the app...
What i did until now:
- Deactivate battery optimization
- Deactivate deep sleep in battery settings
Does anyone have the same problems or some tips for me?
Thx a lot
It's an OxygenOS issue I believe, I've seen reports/complaints about this since the 6T. Unfortunately, I am not aware of any fixes for this. You can also try disabling battery optimization per app, but I tried that on my 7 Pro and it did not help. I even reinstall Gmail as root app, did not help.
I'm not trying to be sour here. I have two workarounds that I use(d):
- MacroDroid, and you set up a macro to turn on display every 30 minute (you can also add actions to sync certain apps.)
- Just keep phone on charger whenever you want notifications. Sucks because its bad for battery, but its what it is.
Find the solution (for me) by myself!
I switched from 7t to 8t with OneplusSwitch App... And it seems, that this was the problem, why the apps which were switched didnt give push notifications...
OPSwitched is really good and very fast for transfering all files... But after deleting the apps and install and set up them fresh, the notification are working!
I can understand having a backup for emergency purposes...but something I learned many, many phones ago is to NEVER allow ANY app to come back when moving to a new phone! I always reinstall all my apps from scratch! Maybe this is why I have far fewer problems than others do when moving to a new phone??? YMMV
Yes, thats right, now i would make it so too.
But as i said, in the past it always worked fine without problems and OPSwitch is a very fast way...
Something learned again
Hi all,
Anyone else having/had problems with not getting notifications for certain apps? For instance - Instagram gives no notifications at all and I've turned off all the optimization I can think of and other apps are not having the issues.
I also am having issues where I explicitly turn off certain notifications and they keep turning themselves back on...
Very annoying.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Yes, same problem here, telegram not showing notifications when sent. What a downgrade this OxygenOS 11, had a Oneplus 7 Pro and didn't have any of these problems.
I´ll try flashing another ROM since I tried everything I could with Oxygen 11... Kinda disappointed from this one.
xDanVitox said:
Hi all,
Anyone else having/had problems with not getting notifications for certain apps? For instance - Instagram gives no notifications at all and I've turned off all the optimization I can think of and other apps are not having the issues.
I also am having issues where I explicitly turn off certain notifications and they keep turning themselves back on...
Very annoying.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Im having the same issue with Snapchat, and only snapchat. No notifications what so ever.
I tried wiping the data/cache of Instagram and it seems to have worked.
Try on Snapchat and see if that works.
I actually had it happen to Snapchat first but had to factory reset at one point and it worked from then on.
Not sure if other apps are doing it just yet to test whether this is a definite fix.