I Have always thought that original Aphex did look more attractive in hand, does any one know the exact difference in dimensions in size and aspect ratio? I felt that apex design felt more like the sweet spot.
What we see on The Apex model I think is same fingerprint scanner as on Nex but X6. In the end I think it was about cost, not sure what each fingerprint scanner cost, another concern might be the battery life having atleast 6 fingerprint scanners sleep in background should use a lot more, but maybe it still a very small amount compared to the whole power capacity I dont know
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I Have always thought that original Aphex did look more attractive in hand, does any one know the exact difference in dimensions in size and aspect ratio? I felt that apex design felt more like the sweet spot.
What we see on The Apex model I think is same fingerprint scanner as on Nex but X6. In the end I think it was about cost, not sure what each fingerprint scanner cost, another concern might be the battery life having atleast 6 fingerprint scanners sleep in background should use a lot more, but maybe it still a very small amount compared to the whole power capacity I dont know
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I don't know the answer to your question but the Apex doesn't exist so it's a moot point. Battery consumption would likely be negligible either way.
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I promise this is NOT a stupid or dumb question, but I just did a comparison and the specs are almost identical. Yes, the AM2 is a bit slower but otherwise, the AM2 is a bigger screen as well:
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/co...-4G,Huawei-Ascend-Mate7/phones/8282,8790?ft=2
I would really like to know what the big fuss is now that I'm looking at the AM2.
Is it worth just getting the AM2?
It's even available unlocked. For about $299.
Better CPU, better GPU, smaller form factor, much more premium build, lighter, finger print scanner, bigger battery, 1080p screen (which really does make a big difference in a screen this size if you ask me), CAT 6 LTE, more LTE band coverage, much smaller bezels.
The difference in price may not be worth it to you but it is certainly a significant upgrade from the AM2.
Does the fingerprint scanner do more than unlock the device?
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Better CPU, better GPU, smaller form factor, much more premium build, lighter, finger print scanner, bigger battery, 1080p screen (which really does make a big difference in a screen this size if you ask me), CAT 6 LTE, more LTE band coverage.
The difference in price may not be worth it to you but it is certainly a significant upgrade from the AM2.
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I appreciate the feedback. Honestly, I do. I have a follow-up question, beyond unlocking the device, is there ANY other purpose for the fingerprint scanner? It sounds very gimmicky and not really worth all that much more. I see it mentioned but I don't see a single thing that makes it worthwhile.
I believe it doubles as a shutter button for the camera.
As for average use, I don't know. I've never used a phone with a finger print scanner. Most the people I know with iPhones seem to like it though and the scanner on the AM7 is apparently second only to the one on the iPhone. With a device of this size I can see it being a convenient way to unlock it - security aside - since it's placed pretty much exactly where my index finger naturally rests on the back.
Get Mate 2 if you want the ridiculously long battery life, it lasts longer than Mate 7. Last time I checked it was so cheap, about half the price I paid for Mate 7 (which in turn, was cheaper than Xperia Z3 lowest spec). The fingerprint scanner is actually great when your fingers are in perfect condition, but in my case it only gives annoyance rather than convenience because my fingers tend to become harder and smoother in cold weather and in this condition, scanner always fails recognizing my fingerprints.
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Vivo Apex 2019 with bezel-less, port-less and button less screen Hands on Chinese Language.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsSJ_sJlSkM
Fingerprint senor on this thing is amazing holy ****!
This Thing has 12gb ram.
I don't know but I'm not so thrilled current port less design smartphone.
From positive aspect I do like the in display finger sensor all over the screen.
Well Vivo just give us a glimpse of earlier summer flagship for 2019 the truly successor of Nex S.
I imagine will have many similarities with this concept.
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Vivo Apex 2019 with bezel-less, port-less and button less screen Hands on Chinese Language.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsSJ_sJlSkM
Fingerprint senor on this thing is amazing holy ****!
This Thing has 12gb ram.
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The fingerprint sensor is fast. I like this phone, it's a better solution than the dual-screen but definitely not practical yet.
Put the fps and side buttons on the new NexS but please retain the USB-C, pop-up camera, big battery and headphone jack and I'm buying it.
I dont like the super high aspect ratio... I really like the full screen finger print scanner it looks fast and accurate too..I really wonder what the tech is behind it, must be a very big sensor. Otherwise there is nothing I really like about it, I dont like the design. But full screen fingerprint scanner deserves some respect.
Great innovation but big downside is if you're in the west you'll have no support if hardware or software fails. I always knew this about vivo but never really had any issues or certainly never had phone long enough to experience issues.
Hello, I have different questions on this device and I would be really thankfull if someone can answer at some of them.
I come from xperia xz2 compact which overall is great but app side looks outdate. No gesture system and sony apps are the same of two years ago.
I know the Pixel is bigger but I don't see any real alternative now. So here come my questions...
It's my first OLED. Is it true that they not last as long as LCD? I hope to use this phone for 2 years at last.
Does this pixel get all the updates and features of newer pixels? All base apps get updated?
Can I disable some of the google apps like I do on other phones?
Can I remove the google search on home or the pixel launcher is not giving me choice?
Does the kernel get higher over time or like other phones it get stuck on the release one?
Is there anything weird about pixel that you don't usually get on other phones?
Yeah I know that the cpu is a downgrade. But maybe I care more to get fresh software.
Thank you so much if you spend time to give me some hint.
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Hello, I have different questions on this device and I would be really thankfull if someone can answer at some of them.
I come from xperia xz2 compact which overall is great but app side looks outdate. No gesture system and sony apps are the same of two years ago.
I know the Pixel is bigger but I don't see any real alternative now. So here come my questions...
It's my first OLED. Is it true that they not last as long as LCD? I hope to use this phone for 2 years at last.
Does this pixel get all the updates and features of newer pixels? All base apps get updated?
Can I disable some of the google apps like I do on other phones?
Can I remove the google search on home or the pixel launcher is not giving me choice?
Does the kernel get higher over time or like other phones it get stuck on the release one?
Is there anything weird about pixel that you don't usually get on other phones?
Yeah I know that the cpu is a downgrade. But maybe I care more to get fresh software.
Thank you so much if you spend time to give me some hint.
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I've been using this smartphone for 6 months now and my previous one was a Sony Xperia XZ2 , so it's basically the same situation as yours.
I always loved Sony smartphones and I keep doing it, but Pixels are on a totally different level, I would suggest the upgrade.
Anyway, to answer to your questions:
-It's my first OLED too, but I doubt it will last less than 2 years
-Yes it does, unless they are exclusive of newer models (Pixel 4). Since the launch of Pixel 4 they already ported to the 3a Astrophotography, Live Captions, Styles personalizations, etc.. But Google said that they are not going to bring for example other things like the contrast slider for photo shoots, which remains a Pixel 4 exclusive
-Yes
-The google search bar is integrated into the launcher, you should change launcher in order to get rid of it
-I didn't check the version over the updates, but at the moment is 4.9.185
-Nothing weird, IMHO is a powerful device with a great price
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I've been using this smartphone for 6 months now and my previous one was a Sony Xperia XZ2 , so it's basically the same situation as yours.
I always loved Sony smartphones and I keep doing it, but Pixels are on a totally different level, I would suggest the upgrade.
Anyway, to answer to your questions:
-It's my first OLED too, but I doubt it will last less than 2 years
-Yes it does, unless they are exclusive of newer models (Pixel 4). Since the launch of Pixel 4 they already ported to the 3a Astrophotography, Live Captions, Styles personalizations, etc.. But Google said that they are not going to bring for example other things like the contrast slider for photo shoots, which remains a Pixel 4 exclusive
-Yes
-The google search bar is integrated into the launcher, you should change launcher in order to get rid of it
-I didn't check the version over the updates, but at the moment is 4.9.185
-Nothing weird, IMHO is a powerful device with a great price
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Thank you for you time. :angel:
That kernel version is the initial android 10 kernel. So they maybe update only on new android big versions.
Would you say that the screen quality is good compared compared to xz2? Can colors be natural? I'm using professional colors on mine.
You basically come from my same device. So it's nice to see that you see the pixel as an upgrade.
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Thank you for you time. :angel:
That kernel version is the initial android 10 kernel. So they maybe update only on new android big versions.
Would you say that the screen quality is good compared compared to xz2? Can colors be natural? I'm using professional colors on mine.
You basically come from my same device. So it's nice to see that you see the pixel as an upgrade.
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Well, to be honest I consider the two displays almost on the same level, cause the xz2's LCD was way better than any other LCD I've seen around.
The 3a OLED is very good for its price, but under strong sunlight it may struggle to be visible.
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Would you say that the screen quality is good compared compared to xz2? Can colors be natural? I'm using professional colors on mine.
You basically come from my same device. So it's nice to see that you see the pixel as an upgrade.
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Regarding the display, it's really is not very bright, but custom kernels (e.g. ElementalX, I think) can provide a high brightness mode for direct sunlight.
If you want a really long in-depth review, xda's Dylan Raga has written a display review, but there's also a quick overview as Pros and Cons.
For other users' opinions, there is always the Real Life Review forum section to check out, it also has a display section.
Personally I also use the Natural profile. It seems bland at first compared to Adaptive (default setting), because it's not slightly oversaturated, but given Natural is more accurate, I'm quite happy without the additional color pop.
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Pixels are on a totally different level, I would suggest the upgrade.
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May I ask you why you find Pixel so better?
sysuicrash0511 said:
Personally I also use the Natural profile. It seems bland at first compared to Adaptive (default setting), because it's not slightly oversaturated, but given Natural is more accurate, I'm quite happy without the additional color pop.
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Thanks. That article is really intersting. But what is scaring me now about OLED is that often people get headache since the screen flickers.
Based on this review: https://www.notebookcheck.net/PWM-Ranking-Notebooks-Smartphones-and-Tablets-with-PWM.163979.0.html
Over 500 Hz should not be an issue but under 250 Hz it could. This pixel is just 270 Hz...
My phone is 2381 Hz and the phone I had before it had no flickering at all.
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Camera (and flash, which was ridiculous on the xperia) and audio are two of the main reasons.
Also battery is a huge improvement to me, cause I use to cover about 5 hours of SOT with the XZ2, now I get up to 7.
The only thing I miss is Dynamic Vibration, it was such a nice feature
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Thanks. That article is really intersting. But what is scaring me now about OLED is that often people get headache since the screen flickers.
Based on this review: https://www.notebookcheck.net/PWM-Ranking-Notebooks-Smartphones-and-Tablets-with-PWM.163979.0.html
Over 500 Hz should not be an issue but under 250 Hz it could. This pixel is just 270 Hz...
My phone is 2381 Hz and the phone I had before it had no flickering at all.
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This is news to me, so I did some research.
In case it's also news to someone else, these frequencies aren't related to display refresh rate, which flagship nowadays increase above 60hz.
From what I understand (as a layman) it's basically modulating the current or voltage to an average by switching the supply on and off within that frequency, effectively controlling brightness.
I can't say I did experience headaches or eye strain, so I might not be the best person to answer this, but I usually use my phones' display quite dim. Shouldn't the frequency decrease and make flickering more noticeable (more waves and longer intervals being off)? Maybe I'm getting it wrong though.
What also caught my attention in your linked table is how many other popular phones sit around these lower frequencies, and only one iPhone ranks slightly higher than the 3a. There are LCDs as well, maybe it's not limited to OLED. But there surely is someone more knowledgeable than me.
Just a quick review. The screen is not even comparable with the xz2c. It feels cheap. But the worst part is the view angle. If you are not in front of the screen the colors really change a lot. And you tend to see the colors changing while you use the phone. ?
You get used to it though. Is just weird if you compare them.
If the screen is all black there is some fading lighter on some side.
On really low light I notice that as example, the keyboard have a shade color instead of being unique.
Night light is less warm.
I don't get stressed by eyes or mind looking at it.
The pixel launcher doesn't allow me to even disable the "ok google" voice detection. I'm considering to swap it. But not sure what will happen with the app switcher.
(if you don't use google at all you can disable the google app and this will disable voice detection while the search bar will be still there as just a picture doing nothing)
Everything else is fine. The phone feels really great in hand and is lighter. Charging is faster.
I'm noticing how feature that are missing versus pixel 4 are not all relevant to hardward or whatever. And some of them are nonsense. Like live wallpapers. So I'm not sure how much really updated the Pixel will stay in time versus another phone except security patches.
I just got used to the screen. And now looks just fine. Except the angle view but I don't care enough. Also the touch is so responsive.
I think this phone is amzing. Is all around balanced, the experience is fluid and clean. So handy and light. Also doesn't attract dust at all. Fast charge.
I'm enjoing display ambient always on, I never thought that could be a good thing but it's really nice.
I just forgot I'm using this phone, it just doesn't distract me.
I would not say photos are so much better in general but they are just a lot better in not perfect light condition.
Checked my screen for a few minutes. There is indeed a *slight* variation in colors when viewing at an angle, which is noticeable only on white backgrounds (and I am in dark mode
Screen should last much longer than 2 years: especially in the EU where legal warranty is 2y.
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Checked my screen for a few minutes. There is indeed a *slight* variation in colors when viewing at an angle, which is noticeable only on white backgrounds (and I am in dark mode
Screen should last much longer than 2 years: especially in the EU where legal warranty is 2y.
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Yeah it's not that much. It was just the first sight. If you come from lcd for like your life, oled is really weird. But you get used to it really easy and after that it's great.
I hope it last. This phone is perfect for basic use.
I have a Pixel 2 XL, and I'll likely be getting the Pixel 5.
I usually upgrade every two years, but the 4 just didn't call to me. I've been holding out for wireless charging and I didn't want to give up my fingerprint reader. That and I've had a strong preference for the 'stock' Android that the Nexus/Pixel series gives you. So I waited last year. However, my battery is getting pretty poor so it's time to move on and the Pixel 5 seems to fit the bill for me.
However, there are a few drawbacks. It seems most of the gripes about the Pixel 5 seem centered around the CPU being somewhat mid-range. Coming from the 2XL, I don't really have any gripes about performance with what I already have for what I use it for. Why only real concerns are the screen and the speakers. I really like the front-facing speakers of my 2XL and sometimes will set my phone on its kickstand to watch a YouTube video with no headphones. (Not in public, I'm not a monster.) I feel like the 5 won't work as well in this scenario, but it's not a deal breaker.
The other drawback is the lower resolution screen. Honestly, I don't know if this is a big deal or not. How big a deal is the resolution difference? Noticeable to most? Would a higher refresh rate but a lower resolution be a net positive or net negative to most? I can't say I've ever felt like my screen was too laggy due to refresh rate but I honestly don't know if the bump down in resolution will slap me in the face or be a complete non-issue. I don't imagine I'd care or notice with video, but what about reading? Any advice from those with more experience in this area?
As long as you don't block the bottom speaker (lower right), you should be fine. Most of the phone stands I use don't block the speaker on my Pixel 3a XL now, so I don't see you having a problem with the Pixel 5.
If you pixel peep, then you will notice the lose of fidelity. Honestly with a screen this small (smartphone screens in general), it's not a huge deal for me. FHD+ is good enough. From experience, I do notice the loss going from higher density displays down to a 1080+ screen. Keep in mind, a higher resolution = less battery life. Takes more to drive that higher density screen. After a while, you won't notice it.
Thanks. I hadn't considered the battery life aspect of it. That's almost more important to me now, but that might just be because I'm running on a 3+ year old battery now.
I'm from Turkey but I can import if it's not here and I'll consider every price. I'm comfortable buying from rather unknown brands. I just want the best experience:
120Hz, OLED screen with nice colours that feels nice to touch
nice camera with stabilisation, nice zoom (not the crazy 100x stuff), 60fps video and photo preview at 1080p
waterproof against water drops like rain
speakers as good as possible!
and a CPU that will give me a smooth experience with scrolling etc
with a battery life that doesn't suck;
gaming is not a concern, fast charging, headphone jack or wireless charging are useless
But most importantly make it feel light and good in the hand please. I hate how my Redmi Note 8 Pro feels, it's heavy, ugly, cheap-feeling, and my hands keep sticking on its back. It feels like I'm lifting a phone more than holding it.
The S21 I've tested felt great though, my thumbs loved the aspect ratio too. S21 is great for everything, except for its OS... If it had stock Android, I'd buy it without a thought but I really don't like OEM flavours like OneUI, MIUI etc... Is a custom ROM on it perhaps a good idea?
Thanks for all the answers! I've had my eyes on Pixel, OnePlus, S21 but none of them feel quite perfect. I'm sure there's something I'll love! Thanks again in advance
My recommendation: Google Pixel 5.
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My recommendation: Google Pixel 5.
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yes i love it but worse screen resolution and refresh rate, cpu, camera compared to s20 but idk if theres really no other choice it's a nice phone, what do you think about 4a vs 5? is it worth the huge price jump? what are the differences even
12% worse cpu, no water resistance, both really great cameras, but losing ultrawide, 20% less battery, and most importantly for me 60hz instead of 90.. altho i havent tested so idk if it matters. if it doesnt that much, i dont think it justifies the twice as much price unless theres something im missing