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I disabled Google Play Services and Google Services Framework on my Moto G, because I don't need them and the Play Store (I sideload all my apps from the pc).
But there's a big problem: if I disable even one of them, and try to enable the geolocation, it only uses the option "high precision" and, worse then that, it makes all the android framework crash and reboot if I try to open any geolocation-using app (like Google Maps or the camera with geo-ON). Any hint to solve this issue? I really want to get rid of these services, for battery and privacy reasons (in particular, battery improvements are really noticeable!).
UPDATE: I don't get this bug UNLESS I reboot the phone. If I do, I get this issue. If I don't, Maps still works even with these services disabled. I'd like anyway to solve this problem so I don't have to make laborious procedures everytime the phone reboot (I already have to kill 5 motorola processes, i.e. Motocare and Motorola Services ones).
I've attached a pair of screens to clarify my situation. I'm on the STOCK and NO-ROOTED rom.
Thank you very much in advance
So you do need Google services? But don't want to need them, my advice flash stock android ROM without using G-apps
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So you do need Google services? But don't want to need them, my advice flash stock android ROM without using G-apps
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No, I'm on the stock android and not need them. But if I disable them, and I reboot the phone, all the geolocating app I use make the system crash, that's a weird behaviour. To convince yourself, you can disable both the services, restart the phone, open Google Maps and press the location button.
If I don't reboot the phone, instead, Google Maps continues to work even with this two services disabled... that's what confuses me
I basically meant stock and stripped like CM11 without Gapps
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zack.1988 said:
No, I'm on the stock android and not need them. But if I disable them, and I reboot the phone, all the geolocating app I use make the system crash, that's a weird behaviour. To convince yourself, you can disable both the services, restart the phone, open Google Maps and press the location button.
If I don't reboot the phone, instead, Google Maps continues to work even with this two services disabled... that's what confuses me
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Basically, you're going to have to root and flash your phone. You can't remove Google services on stock.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1715375
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I am one of those who do they everyday work without google stuff and without gapps. I found out several problems:
Some apps do not install because of missing Google Maps API
Some apps fc at startup bacause of missing Maps API or market license check issues
Some apps hardcoded links to several Google Apps and therefor fc or react unexpectedly on certain cases.
No access to Play Store (i tried nearly every alternative market, but nothing is as good for free apps as play store) Meanwhile, F-Droid provides nearly everything you need
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this thread may interest your needs
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1715375
this thread may interest your needs
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Thank you for the intereeting link. Unluckily it regards mainly rooted devices... Pretty interesting though
Let me see if I get this right. You purchased a phone manufactured by Google, using a stock Rom compiled by Google, and you are trying to used Google software (Google Maps or Motorola Camera software- by Google) and you find it surprising that the system crashes after disabling Google's framework? And you are hoping to solve this without rooting or flashing a custom Rom? Seriously?
Sorry for the ironic tone, but you really need to give the idea of making a thread for this a second thought, my friend.
No problem for the ironic tone,but I can ensure you that I'm running Google Maps and (Motorola, not Google!) Camera App geotag WITHOUT having these two services enabled, and they work flawlessy the problem is ONLY when I REBOOT the phone, in which case I must enable and disable again these services in order to make apps with geolocation work without crashing the system. I will attach a screenshot of my running processes in the STOCK and NOROOT rom, and I ensure you that apart this small, boot-time issue, everything works great on my phone (with a great battery boost, I've been able to achieve 9 hours of screen time plus 1hr of calls, what do you think?).
I've about 50 apps installed, I just don't like Motorola and Google ones because they keep running about all the time, sucking out a lot of private data and battery juice
Well I am new to Android and also have/had problems using the moto g. I disabled all Google apps and stuff I could find and the OS is not really stable, I get quite a few hiccups and the phone crashes every now and then. I thought the nova launcher might be the problem, but I also suspect the OS in general.
But unlike you I don't use any Google stuff, so not even maps.
Well, I am selling the phone anyway.
No crashes here apart this Maps tweak, so it sound's really weird... maybed you disabled some critical services. On my device, with kitkat 4.4.2, ART compiler, everything is more than stable. You could try a factory reset or switching from Dalvik to ART too...
Sounds like a gigantic hassle. I don't think these services use much battery at all.
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Sounds like a gigantic hassle. I don't think these services use much battery at all.
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Before saying that, try and let me know
(as soon I will use it in a regoular way - I.e. not gaming and not browsing all the time - I'll post a screenshot proving the 9 hours of screen time, that I wasn't able to reach with Google services enabled)
Ive had 9 hours screen time with google services enabled but that was just doing light stuff ,got 2.5 days out of my last battery charge but that was with only 5 hours screen time but mine is rooted and greenified now.
Cant think of a solution to your problem sorry,guess you will just have to avoid rebooting.
yes, I guess so...
I need to reinstall Google play services on my moto g how do I do this?
This thread is over a year old and totally unrelated to your question. Searching the forums is my advice because you are pretty unlikely to find an answer to your question by posting in this particular thread
Hi all, hope all is well. I encountered a problem on my OPO and I didn't manage to solve it, even after searching and reading relevant threads on this forum.
Currently my OPO (not rooted) is running Android 4.4.4 (stock Cyanogen OS 11.0). I am still running Android 4.4.4 as when Lollipop was issued many complained of battery drain issues so I didn't update. Yesterday, Google Play Services updated automatically to version 9.0.82. After the update Chrome, Play Store, Gmail and Google Now are exiting as soon as I try to use them. Thus, I decided to uninstall the Google Play Services updates and I manually installed a version (8.7.03) that doesn't cause the problems mentioned. However, this morning when I connected to WiFi, Google Play Services updated and the problems restarted.
Does anybody know how I can prevent Google Play Services from automatically updating please? If this is not possible, I am considering updating to Marshmallow with Cyanogen OS 13. Is it possible to update to the latter without updating to Lollipop please? Moreover, does the OPO suffer from major bugs/ issues when running Marshmallow please?
p.s: previously I denied both "keep awake" and "wake up" in the Privacy Guard menu of Google Play Services as it fixed the message "Unfortunately Google Play Services has stopped". Yet, this message is appearing again every time I connect to WiFi.
Many thanks, much appreciated!
Hi,
I've got a high battery drain problem with the latest Google Play Services (cmasystemupdateservices causing the wavelock).
There are a couple of reddits about this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus/comments/4jmw74/cmasystemupdateservice_wakelock/
https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidQue..._is_cmasystemupdateservice_its_preventing_my/
but no solution.
I'm running 4.4.4 as well, but my wife's Lollipop phone doesn't have this issue. Given that its an update service causing the issue I wonder if this is Google's way of getting us to upgrade!
If this was affecting all Android phones I'd expect to see more of an outcry about it.
Regards.
I too have this problem. Now have to rolled back to stock play services. Any solution?
Unchecked all in Google play settings
@pda1ey thanks for the Reddit links! Unfortunately, as you mentioned they don't offer solutions to our problems.
@vl319 did Google Play Services autoupdate even though you rolled back to stock version please?
@drmuruga I think Google Play Services still autoupdates with those settings unticked.
Thanks to all for your feedback hope we find a solution.
After i rolled back to stock version, it doesn't auto update until now. But u will keep getting message saying apps wont run until play services is updated.... But it is fine for me.. I tried to reset app preference, disable greenify, amplify, privacy guard but none of these work. Probably we have to wait for new update or reinstall the device
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After i rolled back to stock version, it doesn't auto update until now. But u will keep getting message saying apps wont run until play services is updated.... But it is fine for me.. I tried to reset app preference, disable greenify, amplify, privacy guard but none of these work. Probably we have to wait for new update or reinstall the device
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I will follow your suggestion and roll back to stock Play Services. When I manually install Google Play Services 8.7.03 it automatically updates to 9.0.82 after a couple of hours. When you had version 9.0.82 were Gmail and Chrome force closing? Thanks!
I experience same problem on my wife's 4.4. cm and on my 5.1.1 android. Google play services automaticily updated to 9.0 and since then all google related apps is force closing. I noticed, that if I uncheck everything under google play services in privacy guard, apps will work, but then my phone's battery will go down the drain . Is it possible, that Google play services update only, when I open Play store and not completely automaticly?
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I will follow your suggestion and roll back to stock Play Services. When I manually install Google Play Services 8.7.03 it automatically updates to 9.0.82 after a couple of hours. When you had version 9.0.82 were Gmail and Chrome force closing? Thanks!
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I am using official COS13 and its stock version is 8.3.01, older than 8.7.03 and it doesn't auto update to new version. and i have no problem of syncing contact, calendar, keep and etc.
@vl319 my stock version is version 5. That's why I tried solving the issue by updating manually to 8.7.03. Unfortunately, my stock version is not compatible with the Apps I use. Thanks for the clarification!
@ircman maybe you can update to a newer version of Google Play Services on your phone to solve the issue. For instance, update to 9.0.83 or 9.0.82. Another user (drmuruga) in a previous post suggested to turn off automatic updates in the Play Store. However, I don't know if it works because I haven't tried it myself.
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@vl319 my stock version is version 5. That's why I tried solving the issue by updating manually to 8.7.03. Unfortunately, my stock version is not compatible with the Apps I use. Thanks for the clarification!
@ircman maybe you can update to a newer version of Google Play Services on your phone to solve the issue. For instance, update to 9.0.83 or 9.0.82. Another user (drmuruga) in a previous post suggested to turn off automatic updates in the Play Store. However, I don't know if it works because I haven't tried it myself.
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Sorry, I wasn't exact, now I am using 9.0.83. The problem apeared when the Google Play Services updated automaticaly to 9.0.83. Until that moment the phone and all the apps were working flawlesly. I belive that is something wrong with the newest version of Google Play Services, or that they don't want us to block things like Keep Awake, Location, Wake up, Auto Start (this things drains battery really fast).
Probably the only solution for now is to downgrade Google Play Services, and to somehow block automatic updates for Google Play Services.
@ircman as regards blocking the things you mentioned, I think you still can block them if you want.
Moreover, you can manually uninstall the updates of Google Play Services to temporarily solve the problem. Then either stick with the stock Play Services (vl319 clarified in a previous post that it won't auto update but some Apps might not work) or install a version of Play Services that doesn't cause problems as I did. However, after a few hours it auto updates and the problems start again. Thus, you need to repeat this process (I am repeating this process on average twice daily).
If anybody comes up with a permanent solution or has some advice, I would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Hello everyone
I have the same problem you exactly with "google play service" in 9.0.82 release.
it drains my battery and my GPS connection has become very very slow (over 5 min) while with the 8.7.03 release I had no worries.
I am also in version 4.4.4 and I have my wifi, my connection and my GPS data which are off all the time except when I need them.
If anyone has a solution I'm interested
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Hello everyone
I have the same problem you exactly with "google play service" in 9.0.82 release.
it drains my battery and my GPS connection has become very very slow (over 5 min) while with the 8.7.03 release I had no worries.
I am also in version 4.4.4 and I have my wifi, my connection and my GPS data which are off all the time except when I need them.
If anyone has a solution I'm interested
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My problem with Google Play Services 9.0.82 is not related to battery drain and GPS. On my OPO 9.0.82 is causing some Google Apps to FC (as I explained in the first post).
If your OPO is rooted there are some solutions on this forum on how to block Google Play Services from updating. tc
solidstate94 said:
My problem with Google Play Services 9.0.82 is not related to battery drain and GPS. On my OPO 9.0.82 is causing some Google Apps to FC (as I explained in the first post).
If your OPO is rooted there are some solutions on this forum on how to block Google Play Services from updating. tc
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OK thank you for your answer.
I actually did a search on the forum and I find an application that seems to do the job is "disable service" findable on the play store.
Please update to latest play services 9.2.xx. It solves the issue
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Please update to latest play services 9.2.xx. It solves the issue
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Thanks for letting us know! Just upgraded manually to 9.2.56, till now everything seems fine. I wish there is a method which can block Play Services from auto updating.
solidstate94 said:
Thanks for letting us know! Just upgraded manually to 9.2.56, till now everything seems fine. I wish there is a method which can block Play Services from auto updating.
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I know there is a feature in titanium backup that allows apps to detach it from the market. Wonder if it works for play services.
]I don't get notifications from alot of apps. I have side loaded Google services, stopped battery optimisation for apps and manual launch as well. But still not getting notified from alot of apps.
Turns out the reason is that the device is not registered for FCM. That's why none of the apps that use fcm for push notifications come through. Scratching my head as to how to resolve this. Any ideas are welcome.
I installed GMS by the LZplay method last year and have had no problems with notifications except late outlook notifications.
Same problem
mahdibassam said:
]I don't get notifications from alot of apps. I have side loaded Google services, stopped battery optimisation for apps and manual launch as well. But still not getting notified from alot of apps.
Turns out the reason is that the device is not registered for FCM. That's why none of the apps that use fcm for push notifications come through. Scratching my head as to how to resolve this. Any ideas are welcome.
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I have the same problem, but everything works other than that, but I can't get instant notifications, especially news, sport and some email apps. This has nothing to do with the app's battery optimization.
We need to find a solution to this.
gokhanozkan said:
I have the same problem, but everything works other than that, but I can't get instant notifications, especially news, sport and some email apps. This has nothing to do with the app's battery optimization.
We need to find a solution to this.
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I solved it by removing that google app mess I formatted the phone and left it without google and everything works beautifully. Google must be forgotten if you still haven't understood.
gokhanozkan said:
I have the same problem, but everything works other than that, but I can't get instant notifications, especially news, sport and some email apps. This has nothing to do with the app's battery optimization.
We need to find a solution to this.
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Il redo my google apps set up then, maybe that will fix the push notifications not being registered. il report back.
zaga1988 said:
I solved it by removing that google app mess I formatted the phone and left it without google and everything works beautifully. Google must be forgotten if you still haven't understood.
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The question is, if we dont sideload google services at all, and install news apps and etc from another apk source, would they still rely on FCM and google for push notifications?
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The question is, if we dont sideload google services at all, and install news apps and etc from another apk source, would they still rely on FCM and google for push notifications?
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Of course the problem is that when with this method 1 you install the google service framework and the google play service are their cause of the problem because the device is really locked even though it looks like the oaly store etc etc and is blocked by google. The only one that has the working method perhaps is phan phi with method 2 where he managed to create a game console as account management to access without problems with certification...... But it doesn't give the method
I have the same question. I don't know how to solve this problem.
Has anyone found a solution for this? :/ Seems like there's a flaw in this new method of installing GMS. The method before didn't have this issue... Hope someone can come up with a fix soon other than having to use ice box to freeze Google framework...
That is the solution of the notification problem:
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That is the solution of the notification problem:
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It's always the same method icebox style, non difference. We can use PlayStore with this method and on AuroraStore we can buy app and signing with our google account is dangerous cause this last can be banned. Not a good method. We need a real solution, a real certification.
Is it possibile freeze and de-frost system app directly from this app without using every time adb with a pc and without root?
I mean if i give to it Admin permission is there this possibility?
denzel09 said:
Is it possibile freeze and de-frost system app directly from this app without using every time adb with a pc and without root?
I mean if i give to it Admin permission is there this possibility?
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Impossible bro
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It's always the same method icebox style, non difference. We can use PlayStore with this method and on AuroraStore we can buy app and signing with our google account is dangerous cause this last can be banned. Not a good method. We need a real solution, a real certification.
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as you know Huawei banned by Google so go for another phone if you want perfect GMS then, as US still banned Huawei and put it in the blacklist so never buy Huawei Phone.
Sathelp said:
I installed GMS by the LZplay method last year and have had no problems with notifications except late outlook notifications.
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Hi, from where you checked whether notifications are ok or not. I mean is there any app. Because i am also observing weird things about notifications
I use the push notifications app and also the outlook help file app
I can say that whitout google service and google push notification i didnt get notifications for skype, discord, steam, and most email apks tjst use google push notifications. So im forced to install it, also i block google framework so playstore doesent work but notifications work, sometime they stuck i reboot phone and they work again. With unfreezed google framework playstore work but notifications not... I dont need google framework, i remove all my google apks, i use edge instead chrome, omedrive photo instead google photo etc etc... But mu notifications doesent work even on factory reset phone... Except viber but he is instslled from huawei store.
I found a way to get Push Notification working without the Icebox app and freezing Google frame services.
GPS GSF FIX.zip
drive.google.com
anyone getting trouble to restore lzplay?
see my video it will solve your problem in a second
https://youtu.be/QKxiiEJFCMA
Dont forget to subscribe and follow my youtube channel
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hey firlando
long time no speak , hope you are well
so with this lz restore we can install gms the old way? like in this video correct? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn1pH-O3p00
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anyone getting trouble to restore lzplay?
see my video it will solve your problem in a second
https://youtu.be/QKxiiEJFCMA
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After using your walkthrough on YouTube I can use Google play store, however, I no longer get notifications for anything at all. Only thing I get is a few Gmail email notifications then after that nothing. It's like it fails push notifications after the first few Gmail ones it pushes.
Needless to say, an OS that doesn't push notifications on a phone is not usable. Any ideas?
buxz777 said:
hey firlando
long time no speak , hope you are well
so with this lz restore we can install gms the old way? like in this video correct? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn1pH-O3p00
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hi bro,
i am fine thank you
no still use the new one because Uncertified POP UP still occurs so you need use GMSMOD1 to stop the POP UP
cmarison said:
After using your walkthrough on YouTube I can use Google play store, however, I no longer get notifications for anything at all. Only thing I get is a few Gmail email notifications then after that nothing. It's like it fails push notifications after the first few Gmail ones it pushes.
Needless to say, an OS that doesn't push notifications on a phone is not usable. Any ideas?
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Hi there
Yes the problem because GMS and GFS is not connected so it stop the push notification.
if the push notification enable then the Uncertified POP UP will never stop occurs. until today still no cure for Push Notification
thank you
firlando said:
hi bro,
i am fine thank you
no still use the new one because Uncertified POP UP still occurs so you need use GMSMOD1 to stop the POP UP
Hi there
Yes the problem because GMS and GFS is not connected so it stop the push notification.
if the push notification enable then the Uncertified POP UP will never stop occurs. until today still no cure for Push Notification
thank you
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I see. Well, when the notification was occurring for me, I just dragged the message to the left in the notification pane and said disable notifications. Is that not possible? Can I just disable the notification and still be able to use Google play? Like, stop the process at step 7 or 8, disable notifications on just play store issues and then let it be?
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I see. Well, when the notification was occurring for me, I just dragged the message to the left in the notification pane and said disable notifications. Is that not possible? Can I just disable the notification and still be able to use Google play? Like, stop the process at step 7 or 8, disable notifications on just play store issues and then let it be?
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Probably possible. However, I think that was cause battery drain.
I try gms install and use ice box. I froze Google framework and use aurorastore market.
Serdarankara said:
I try gms install and use ice box. I froze Google framework and use aurorastore market.
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Apps which is use GMAPS can not work properly then.
Gmaps? = Google maps ?
firlando said:
Apps which is use GMAPS can not work properly then.
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what do you mekan gmaps? İs it Google Maps?. Google maps is working and I take all notifications now. İce box is sucsefully now.
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what do you mekan gmaps? İs it Google Maps?. Google maps is working and I take all notifications now. İce box is sucsefully now.
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Apps which is dependency Google Maps will not work.
Try "Muslim Pro" apps you can not pointing your current location
Local apps Indonesian named "Gojek" also dependency Google Maps will not working can not detect your current location
Can I downgrade software 10.0.0.173 china software after installing Google play?
Can I downgrade software 10.0.0.173 china software after installing Google play? İs it work?
Hello I want to ask from where can I download huawei backup.apk shown in this video?
Hi firlando, will this method work on huawei y6p?
Installed gms with your method and worked... Still notifications not work properly. Can you say me if I use Aurora instead of google play store will get notification back?
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I try gms install and use ice box. I froze Google framework and use aurorastore market.
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Can you explain this more detailed, please? Thanks
Any one knows why lz-play is not working at P40 Lite 5G?
I used to have my Google working on my Huawei perfectly, until I accidentally pressed the wrong button and all was uninstalled.
Now I had tried your method a few times. But every time I got stucked at the same part, where we were to add the Google accounts.
When I try to add the existing Google account, it always show Google connection error. Cannot connect to Google server. I tried restarting and force stopping or anything, I still cannot go pass this step. Cannot add Google account.
Can somebody tell me or teach me? If anyone had this problem and had solved it.
Tolong tolong
Sorry if it was explained elsewhere, but I really couldn't find it:
I managed to install GMS. Is there anything I should avoid (other than deleting google account or reseting the phone) to keep it running?
For example:
- Can I safely update any apps or services or will updating a Google Store or something mess everything up?
- Are there any apps I should avoid, eg. some security, system management or antivirus apps?
Yes many apk notifications doesent work. Stopping google framework and reboot phone will enable notifications back but u cant use play store. So use aurora.
Hi firlando, Could you please share how to install GMS for huawei nova 7 se
Yes
Apps which is dependency Google Maps will not work. ]
Hi , I have a moto g(30) , its stock androidish.
I was able to disable google play services through settings and disable all google apps , will this affect my phone functions such as data reset , privacy and security of the phone , update , etc..
Short answer is: NO
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Short answer is: NO
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Thanks a lot , I was anxious