As in Title I can't use Google Assistant when phone is locked, if I want to ask anything and say Ok Google, my phone wakes up and makes the normal noise that the assistant is listening although nothing happens. Is there something I am missing?
Do you have any kind of unlock screen protection? (password, patern, fingerprint,....)
I have fingerprint and a backup password although I have always had that on other Android phone and the assistant would always work to make calls or answer questions
...I think it is because of your profile pic
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
seal said:
I have fingerprint and a backup password although I have always had that on other Android phone and the assistant would always work to make calls or answer questions
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I always have all that desactivated, don't really like to having my phone listening to me every hour of the day....anyway, if that works in other phones, for me it's a serious security risk. Why would anyone want to let the phone make calls and answer questions if it's locked?? The lock is exactly for preventing anyone to do those things without autorization, but ho well......
https://support.google.com/assistant/answer/7394306?co=GENIE.Platform=Android&hl=en
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seal said:
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I don't use that feature but wouldn't you have to train the assistant to match your voice for security clearance? Perhaps that'll open the phone without the fingerprint.
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I hear over and over how the Ok Snapdragon is more responsive and the phone seems to pick it up better from the lock screen. What I was hoping for when the CM12 5.0.2 came out with the Ok OnePlus that my voice would be able to unlock the phone. I still have to put my lock pattern in after I wake it with Ok OnePlus. That kind of defeats the purpose IMO.
Will Ok Snapdragon do this?
Probably not, as anyone could say "OK oneplus" or "OK Snapdragon" and unlock your phone. If you set a pattern, you'll always have to enter it whatsoever. The only way here is to remove the pattern on the lockscreen and any other security method. "OK Oneplus" will then unlock your phone
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Probably not, as anyone could say "OK oneplus" or "OK Snapdragon" and unlock your phone. If you set a pattern, you'll always have to enter it whatsoever. The only way here is to remove the pattern on the lockscreen and any other security method. "OK Oneplus" will then unlock your phone
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I guess I was under the impression that the technology allowed it to use my voice to unlock the device.
At least I can say 'Ok OnePlus' to activate the screen then say 'Ok Goggle' to do hands free searches or start a timer (which I use a lot)
tjlmbklr said:
I guess I was under the impression that the technology allowed it to use my voice to unlock the device.
At least I can say 'Ok OnePlus' to activate the screen then say 'Ok Goggle' to do hands free searches or start a timer (which I use a lot)
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NO, you are right, just disable ok, oneplus and then enable google now.
Connect your phone to power and say ok google, it will unlock itself.:highfive:
oneplus just simply sucks!! i purchased this phone for that feature only, never been able to use it.
never buy anything from them again.
masterchop said:
NO, you are right, just disable ok, oneplus and then enable google now.
Connect your phone to power and say ok google, it will unlock itself.:highfive:
oneplus just simply sucks!! i purchased this phone for that feature only, never been able to use it.
never buy anything from them again.
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so you are saying when connected to a power source it will unlock but when not connected it wont do it with the same voice command.
Not for nothing but why have a lock and then have it be disabled by a voice command. Its kind of counterproductive and see this as a feature and not a bug per se.
playya said:
so you are saying when connected to a power source it will unlock but when not connected it wont do it with the same voice command.
Not for nothing but why have a lock and then have it be disabled by a voice command. Its kind of counterproductive and see this as a feature and not a bug per se.
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This is how google protects the moto phones with always listening feature.
There is a lof of phone out there with the same CPU meaning they are able to use this feature (like theOPO and many others) but google hardcoded so we cant use it when you unplug the device.
I know it sucks but its marketing...
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This is how google protects the moto phones with always listening feature.
There is a lof of phone out there with the same CPU meaning they are able to use this feature (like theOPO and many others) but google hardcoded so we cant use it when you unplug the device.
I know it sucks but its marketing...
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I kinda agree with them and not have my phone unlock by voice. I getnit though if you wanna take that risk it should be on you
ok so... with the phone on the table and the screen is off (standby). if i say "ok google" and do a search for anything. once im done i can hit the home button and it takes me right into home screen without inputting my finger print or password. So that means anyone can now say "ok google" and bypass any of the securities. come you guys confirm this as this is a major problem for me. I have the verizon edition pixel.
Audigy187 said:
ok so... with the phone on the table and the screen is off (standby). if i say "ok google" and do a search for anything. once im done i can hit the home button and it takes me right into home screen without inputting my finger print or password. So that means anyone can now say "ok google" and bypass any of the securities. come you guys confirm this as this is a major problem for me. I have the verizon edition pixel.
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Settings>>Google>>Search & Now>>Voice>>OK Google Detection - In here you can set options to secure this feature to your liking. Notice the 'Trusted Voice' Option which detects its YOU before unlocking. There of course is room for error where someone sounding similar to you in might be able to get it. That's why these features are there to disable if it matters to you.
I personally don't care much..
Cheers!
(There might be a faster way to get to those settings. That's just how I always remember to do it)
And it also makes you acknowledge everything you just said before enabling trusted voice.... you must've missed that part.
i had a couple different people try this out. all the girls didnt allow access but some of the guys could gain access. i tried it on a friends lg v20 and it wouldnt allow access. i guess i have to deal with it. doesn't feel too good knowing someone can gain access with little to no effort. ill just turn that feature off if its even possible.
Audigy187 said:
i had a couple different people try this out. all the girls didnt allow access but some of the guys could gain access. i tried it on a friends lg v20 and it wouldnt allow access. i guess i have to deal with it. doesn't feel too good knowing someone can gain access with little to no effort. ill just turn that feature off if its even possible.
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How long has your friend been using their V20? I know they become much more accurate the longer you use it, similar to the fingerprint scanner. Google has you train it to understand you with 3 sets of 'ok google' but that doesn't mean it's done learning. Give it some more time maybe? Just thinking...
hes been using it for 4 about a week now. the v20 is a nice. i feel it is noticeably faster than the note 7 i had. only issues are the screen it average. Its sharp but color is average. the hole phone vibrates from the speakers which is a downside for me.
Ill give the pixel some time to learn my voice and report back. hopefully i cant fool it lol
Try this
Audigy187 said:
i had a couple different people try this out. all the girls didnt allow access but some of the guys could gain access. i tried it on a friends lg v20 and it wouldnt allow access. i guess i have to deal with it. doesn't feel too good knowing someone can gain access with little to no effort. ill just turn that feature off if its even possible.
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Press power button while Pixel is in sleep mode. That will bring up the lock screen. At the bottom of the screen you will notice a fingerprint icon. Tap that and you will get the message "Device will remain locked until you manually unlock."
No amount of saying "OK, Google" will allow access now until you either use the fingerprint scanner or enter your pass code.
Yea I pointed this out here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69303648&postcount=12
It is a big issue. It should allow limited assistant functionality, but not entire phone.
as always, if you are so concerned about security on your phone, dont keep anything on it that you are afraid of someone else accessing..
very simple solution
wase4711 said:
as always, if you are so concerned about security on your phone, dont keep anything on it that you are afraid of someone else accessing..
very simple solution
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Thats horrible.
Audigy187 said:
i had a couple different people try this out. all the girls didnt allow access but some of the guys could gain access. i tried it on a friends lg v20 and it wouldnt allow access. i guess i have to deal with it. doesn't feel too good knowing someone can gain access with little to no effort. ill just turn that feature off if its even possible.
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km8j said:
Yea I pointed this out here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69303648&postcount=12
It is a big issue. It should allow limited assistant functionality, but not entire phone.
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Both of you! Turn "trusted voice" off
It is a setting in Google -> Search and Now -> voice -> and OK Google detection.
Turn off "trusted voice"
No more "GLARING SECURITY HOLES" in... Your knowledge of your phone.
Because, asking for limited functionality of Assistant when trusted voice is off doesn't sound right to me.... Like asking for AI to know which questions are answerable while screen is locked seems too tricky at this time.
The design is to use a lock or leave it off, currently.
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nednednerb said:
Both of you! Turn "trusted voice" off
It is a setting in Google -> Search and Now -> voice -> and OK Google detection.
Turn off "trusted voice"
No more "GLARING SECURITY HOLES" in... Your knowledge of your phone.
Because, asking for limited functionality of Assistant when trusted voice is off doesn't sound right to me.... Like asking for AI to know which questions are answerable while screen is locked seems too tricky at this time.
The design is to use a lock or leave it off, currently.
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Well 1) the voice recognition isn't good 2) we want the functionality 3) the assistant could act on limited functionality: weather, reminders, send texts, make a phone call. If someone gets my phone and wants to manipulate a voice to send texts, whatever. This is how moto handled their voice assistant and it was perfect.
Oh this thread is now a feature request? It was about a security issue. Things can change.
Give Google feedback through "about phone" in settings! Maybe they will add the feature.
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Turn off trusted voice in Smart Unlock.
HeCareth said:
Turn off trusted voice in Smart Unlock.
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Finally somebody with a smart answer...this controversy could all be avoided by a simple google search telling you how to disable the the trusted voice in smart lock, as the person states above. Im all about helping newbs out but research before you post...especially security stuff...... the title of you post makes it sounds as if there has been a security breach or major security flaw in the firmware.
Sounds about like the guy I sold a Gear 2 Neo too. I was showing him how to use some things and he freaked out when the Trusted Device feature left his phone without a passcode. So we disabled it, then he wanted to add a passcode to the watch to get get into it which really only works if it's disconnected from the phone. He was pretty honest about his reason. He's cheating on his wife and didn't want her to find out.
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Janker5050 said:
Finally somebody with a smart answer...this controversy could all be avoided by a simple google search telling you how to disable the the trusted voice in smart lock, as the person states above. Im all about helping newbs out but research before you post...especially security stuff...... the title of you post makes it sounds as if there has been a security breach or major security flaw in the firmware.
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It is a security flaw if you can get through it with someone else's voice easily.
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It is a security flaw if you can get through it with someone else's voice easily.
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When I click on it in settings it tells me directly that it can be "less secure."
Yep. So it is not a flaw. It is a feature.
You should feel informed by the warning in settings, not like "it doesn't work.."
It is a fact more voices are similar and voices are easier to mimic than... Fingerprints. Rhythm and pitch are easy to steal. Ever hear of a cover band? Or confuse yourself which band you're listening to because of singer? If never... Wow dude.
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Maybe I am missing a setting somewhere or something, but the Google Assistant on my XZP only responds when the screen is on. I have it set to "any time" in the Assistant settings. Is this normal? I'm pretty sure it worked whenever (screen off/locked/charging/etc.) on my last couple of phones. I'd like it to at least work while the phone is charging.
Any ideas?
well yeah I had the same problem, apparently, Google changed the settings of the program, and it was only working while the phone is charging, so whenever u upgrade the application to its latest version you will lose this privilege. my advice and that's what I'm doing is to uninstall the updates from the google app and then give it all the permissions it needs and you will have it to work anytime the phone is charging no matter if the screen is on or off !!
btw my Google app version is 7.2.26.21.arm64
This is something that I absolutely hate about the Google assistant. Google should allow the assistant to be used regardless of the device being locked or charging like you can with Siri and Cortana (on WM). It's so irritating to have to actually turn my screen on to use the Google assistant.
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Jake_09 said:
This is something that I absolutely hate about the Google assistant. Google should allow the assistant to be used regardless of the device being locked or charging like you can with Siri and Cortana (on WM). It's so irritating to have to actually turn my screen on to use the Google assistant.
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Yeah, once the phone is in my hand I don't really need the assistant. I can do it myself...
Heinous said:
Yeah, once the phone is in my hand I don't really need the assistant. I can do it myself...
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Exactly. It's really pointless to have an assistant that requires me to interact with the phone. It's like Google doesn't understand what an assistant is for. I really wish they would also implement what Cortana does in terms of how she handles text messages when connected to Bluetooth devices. I love that she would ask if I want her to read it to me and then after reading it will ask me if I want to dictate a reply and send it.
Honestly, for some of the flak that I've seen Cortana getting lately, she's a much better and much more useful assistant than Google or Sri and she's probably the thing I miss the most from WM10.
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Jake_09 said:
Exactly. It's really pointless to have an assistant that requires me to interact with the phone. It's like Google doesn't understand what an assistant is for.
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It's not sure it's entirely Google's fault. It worked properly on previous android phones that I've owned.
I just noticed that it seems to work now with the Oreo update. My phone now wakes up and responds to "ok, Google" while the screen is off/locked. ?
This is by far the best part of the Oreo update. Google Assistant is at least 800x more useful now that it is actually hands-free.
Doesn't work wih mine. It blinks like I could say somehing, but stays closed. When I unlock it, nothing happens. My old phone then went into the assistant mode.
Which options do i have to set?
Hi i Have An Honor 6X With EMUI 5.0 And I Wanted To Enable Google Assistant On The Lock Screen But I Can Only Use It To Unlock The Device And Not Use It From The Lock Screen, So Is It Possible To Use It Without Unlocking The Phone
Did you tried to activate the "Ok Google" feature by Google settings? In this way you should be able to interact with it by simply pronouncing Ok Google nearby your phone
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Did you tried to activate the "Ok Google" feature by Google settings? In this way you should be able to interact with it by simply pronouncing Ok Google nearby your phone
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I can say Ok Google from any app but i want to use the Assistant on the lock screen without unlocking the device.
And i also had another problem with the Assistant, i have a pair of Aukey EP-B27 Bluetooth earphones and when i use the Assistant her sound is very bad but when i listen to music or watch videos the sound is very good, so what causes that ?
CodingAddict704 said:
I can say Ok Google from any app but i want to use the Assistant on the lock screen without unlocking the device.
And i also had another problem with the Assistant, i have a pair of Aukey EP-B27 Bluetooth earphones and when i use the Assistant her sound is very bad but when i listen to music or watch videos the sound is very good, so what causes that ?
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Don't know if it's possible, even with root privileges or Xposed modules (actually unofficial and unstable versions are available for Nougat, but i strongly suggest you to don't try those). At the moment, the maximum i could advise in my experience (i don't even use Assistant, i only use Now rarely) is going to Assistant settings -> Ok Google detection -> and turn on the "Trusted Voice" option to give to Assistant the permission to unlock the screen when Ok Google is heard. For your earphones, i don't use Bluetooth earphones so i couldn't provide a real feedback about. Maybe future Assistant versions would fix the issue; begin to warn Google about it by writing to them, in way that they could listen your problem.
Thats not possible. It may work in pixels just like Siri works but not sure if it will work on non pixel or other devices. Even not sure if it works on pixels. I am unable tp get it working on China variant so can't test this for you mate. For me it even doesn't work with unlocked screen. Have disabled the inbuilt voice assistant but still Google assistant doesn't work
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Even not sure if it works on pixels.
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Exactly, it shouldn't being possible neither on Pixel devices... Maybe on Pixel 2?
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Exactly, it shouldn't being possible neither on Pixel devices... Maybe on Pixel 2?
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Hope so. Who cares :silly:
We are not gonna buy anything for $700-800 :silly:
shashank1320 said:
Hope so. Who cares :silly:
We are not gonna buy anything for $700-800 :silly:
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You can say that bro
If I disable Voice Match, Google Now disables everywhere unless I re-enable the Voice Match. Then saying "Hey Google" while the screen is locked and off triggers it.
I need the good old way of Google Assistant only working when I am on Home Screen, not when I am in any app, not when the phone is locked or screen is off, only when I am either on home screen or app drawer.
Any way to do it? Any magisk module or anything?
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If I disable Voice Match, Google Now disables everywhere unless I re-enable the Voice Match. Then saying "Hey Google" while the screen is locked and off triggers it.
I need the good old way of Google Assistant only working when I am on Home Screen, not when I am in any app, not when the phone is locked or screen is off, only when I am either on home screen or app drawer.
Any way to do it? Any magisk module or anything?
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Not all functionality is available when locked such as I can turn my WiFi connected lights on without unlocking but need to use the fingerprint scanner to interact with apps most apps.
It's funny that I wanted my previous OnePlus 5 to be able to do this particularly with AutoVoice Tasker scripts but now that I have this feature with my OP7Pro but I'm not so comfortable with the phone and potentially Google always being the fly on my wall.
Sorry but I've not spend any time trying to address the issue as you described as I'm still deciding if the convenience is worth the voluntary surveillance.
I regularly watch the Daily Pocket now YouTube show and have seen him toss his spying Amazon Echo as he hates that it listens and then inundates him with adds related to what he was talking about. At least Google has only done that after I've done web searches although I'm sure this is just a ticking clock from changing.
rootSU said:
If I disable Voice Match, Google Now disables everywhere unless I re-enable the Voice Match. Then saying "Hey Google" while the screen is locked and off triggers it.
I need the good old way of Google Assistant only working when I am on Home Screen, not when I am in any app, not when the phone is locked or screen is off, only when I am either on home screen or app drawer.
Any way to do it? Any magisk module or anything?
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I would love to know this as well as I have Google/Nest hubs in almost every room of my house and hate that it turns on my screen every time.
3DSammy said:
Not all functionality is available when locked such as I can turn my WiFi connected lights on without unlocking but need to use the fingerprint scanner to interact with apps most apps.
It's funny that I wanted my previous OnePlus 5 to be able to do this particularly with AutoVoice Tasker scripts but now that I have this feature with my OP7Pro but I'm not so comfortable with the phone and potentially Google always being the fly on my wall.
Sorry but I've not spend any time trying to address the issue as you described as I'm still deciding if the convenience is worth the voluntary surveillance.
I regularly watch the Daily Pocket now YouTube show and have seen him toss his spying Amazon Echo as he hates that it listens and then inundates him with adds related to what he was talking about. At least Google has only done that after I've done web searches although I'm sure this is just a ticking clock from changing.
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That is one of my main concerns, apart from battery drain that'd be there with constantly on mic (though have heard that newer QC chips have minimized that drain), google will always be on the listening mode, no matter if the phone is locked and in the pocket.
And I know that not much could be done from the lock screen, but it's annoying, my phone was on the table, and I was discussing something with my friend. I might have said something that would have sounded like hey google, and suddenly I hear "Here are the search results". Picked up the phone to see that it picked up certain words from the conversation, and had searched for it. As we were in a quiet room and the media volume was full, it wasn't very pleasing to suddenly hear that.