i just made a discovery and was wondering anyone else who has the same programs can check this out....
i am running damage control latest and the kernal modified for damage control for the novatek panels..so i get about 44 to 46 fps consistently now. HOWEVER when i use the stock camera application it behaves exactly the same as it used too before the fps kernal, basically in low light the frame-rate drops to something less than 19fps (19fps is about what the human eye can distinguish as "movement without blurring or choppiness") and the camcorder works the same way, so even though the camcorder is supposed to be recording at 24fps, in low light it really isnt. i bought the app "vignette" and its a neat camera app that has a bunch of really cool filters, well anyway BEFORE the new kernal it basically behaved the exact same way as the stock camera app, it would get blurry and choppy in low light situations (fps would drop below 19) however something interesting happed AFTER i installed the kernal! the vignette app actually performed better than the default camera app, it seems that vignette actually didnt drop below 19 fps as even in a very low light situation i could move the camera around and the picture wouldn't blur or get choppy. so this leads me to conclude that
1. something is holding back performance of the stock camera and camcorder that the fps kernal doesnt fix (which was already known)
and most importantly 2. it seems that maybe third party apps are NOT affected by whatever is holding back the stock camera!
so my theory is that if there is a third party app for video recording perhaps we can get proper fps video recording in low light situations....!!!!
I made a video showing the differences with my flip mino HD and its currently uploading to youtube i will edit the post with the youtube video once its done.
but if anyone else has a the modified fps kernal and can test this please let us know what you find. if you have vignette then try vignette if you have another third party camera app then try that. perhaps by comparing the code between the two apps we can see what might be holding back the performance of the stock camera.
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Very interesting discovery... I hope you are on to something here. Thanks
i just tried taking the cam with vignette... gorgeous!
what third party app uses the video camera? i want to test that out too.
this app is great, just downloaded it n i like it alot. gotta find a thrid party video app now n we would be set.
That would be sweet if an 3rd party app could fix it.
OFF TOPIC: Hey what widget is that you are using with transparent background and green indication lights?
prestonr83 said:
OFF TOPIC: Hey what widget is that you are using with transparent background and green indication lights?
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switchpro widget
prestonr83 said:
That would be sweet if an 3rd party app could fix it.
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yeah its switchpro
Hi, so I installed Zombi-X ROM and has been good so far. Its incredible that i can watch 1080 mpeg2 TV streams from my backend pvr with xbmc now and its very smooth and stutter free.. That just made my day! Many thanks to developers, and great documentation guides. I am having a minor problem though. I noticed display is too bright even at 0% setting. On stock ROM, there was option to disable IPS+ . I have no idea what that meeans , but it helped darken the screen so that white background pages were not blinding at night. Is such an option available on tis custom ROM? I have tried apps to darken screen but they reduce contrast and looks washed out.
Thanks in advance.
As we know, for all Cyanogenmod Users was the Camera app a little bit flawed, it did not let you record in 4K. I found an easy workaround
for that, which should work with any ROM, not only CM.
Just go to the Google Play Store and Download Open Camera, with the link here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera&hl=en .
The open it and click the Settings Icon, go to Video Settings and set the Resolution to Highest; 4K Ultra HD. And that is basically it!
The app overall is a great replacement, it has way more controls over Focus etc. There is a bug though, when switching to video mode, the brightness will go on the lowest level. Clicking the settings and going back will fix that. I hope I could help you, Feedback is welcome!
Simon
I've got an android hauwei p8 lite and have mx player set to play in the background.
The big problem is that the very dark controls of the player controls when viewed in the drop down notification area can't be seen as the notification area itself is very dark by default.
I have tried various settings in the player and inversed some colors but nothing so far is changing those controls which really can't be seen.. Has anyone got any ideas what I can change and I've attached a screen shot showing what I'm talking about.
Thanks in advance.
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I've got an android hauwei p8 lite and have mx player set to play in the background.
The big problem is that the very dark controls of the player controls when viewed in the drop down notification area can't be seen as the notification area itself is very dark by default.
I have tried various settings in the player and inversed some colors but nothing so far is changing those controls which really can't be seen.. Has anyone got any ideas what I can change and I've attached a screen shot showing what I'm talking about.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi, would you share screen capture of the notification area with background play control?
Okay this had to be the title for the thread as what i discovered about NEX is seriously crazy.
What i discovered is, that NEX's display can render much better colours both while watching videos and browsing images, but the built AI **** is decreasing the quality of the display by reducing the saturation and a bit of sharpness.
How i discovered this: While i was browsing some 2K videos on NEX youtube app, i watched on video which is a 2K HDR 10 video and it looked completely off on the NEX display. It looked completely greyed out and horribly pale and i right away knew that the built in AI is doing something wrong. So, to further confirm this, i downloaded this app called NewPipe, which streams youtube videos and i saw that the same video which was looking horrible on the stock youtube app is looking really nice on this app. In fact the colours were looking as good as it looked on my Note 8. I was super surprised for a moment as i never thought NEX's display is capable of matching the Note 8's display in terms of colours and sharpness. So, once i was sure that its the AI thats decreasing the saturation of the display while we watch any content using the stock app, i downloaded a Gallery app from play store to check if its doing the same thing to the pictures too and as it turned out, the colours of the same image looked so much more better on that third party gallery app than it did in the stock gallery app.
So, now what i really want to know is, how to switch this AI thing off. If not completely, i want to at least disable it while watching videos and browsing images. I seriously dont know why has Vivo done this, as it is not doing any good to the display. In fact its bringing down the actual performance of the display which would have affected their sales over all. I am sure there would have been people comparing the Note 8 or S9's display to NEX and would have changed their decision based on it and one famous reviewer has compared it against the S9 plus and he clearly says the NEX's display cant match to the S9's, which is not at all the case.
I am super sensitive about colours and i really really happy that NEX can deliver colours as good as my Note 8, which was my only complain. While i am super happy after discovering this, i am equally restless to figure out a way to disable that AI thing on certain apps. You guys too can do this test and see the results for yourself. Let me know if anyone of you can find a solution for this.
Also, attaching comparison pictures of the display colours while using the stock gallery app against using a third party app.
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Okay this had to be the title for the thread as what i discovered about NEX is seriously crazy.
What i discovered is, that NEX's display can render much better colours both while watching videos and browsing images, but the built AI **** is decreasing the quality of the display by reducing the saturation and a bit of sharpness.
How i discovered this: While i was browsing some 2K videos on NEX youtube app, i watched on video which is a 2K HDR 10 video and it looked completely off on the NEX display. It looked completely greyed out and horribly pale and i right away knew that the built in AI is doing something wrong. So, to further confirm this, i downloaded this app called NewPipe, which streams youtube videos and i saw that the same video which was looking horrible on the stock youtube app is looking really nice on this app. In fact the colours were looking as good as it looked on my Note 8. I was super surprised for a moment as i never thought NEX's display is capable of matching the Note 8's display in terms of colours and sharpness. So, once i was sure that its the AI thats decreasing the saturation of the display while we watch any content using the stock app, i downloaded a Gallery app from play store to check if its doing the same thing to the pictures too and as it turned out, the colours of the same image looked so much more better on that third party gallery app than it did in the stock gallery app.
So, now what i really want to know is, how to switch this AI thing off. If not completely, i want to at least disable it while watching videos and browsing images. I seriously dont know why has Vivo done this, as it is not doing any good to the display. In fact its bringing down the actual performance of the display which would have affected their sales over all. I am sure there would have been people comparing the Note 8 or S9's display to NEX and would have changed their decision based on it and one famous reviewer has compared it against the S9 plus and he clearly says the NEX's display cant match to the S9's, which is not at all the case.
I am super sensitive about colours and i really really happy that NEX can deliver colours as good as my Note 8, which was my only complain. While i am super happy after discovering this, i am equally restless to figure out a way to disable that AI thing on certain apps. You guys too can do this test and see the results for yourself. Let me know if anyone of you can find a solution for this.
Also, attaching comparison pictures of the display colours while using the stock gallery app against using a third party app.
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I too noticed this while putting wallpapers on mobile.
From 1st day I am using Google's gallery app i.e. Photos , while pictures looked brilliant in the app but whenever I set a picture as wallpaper , it looks dull.
Second time I noticed it when I saw Avengers on MX player, colors looked bright and punchy where as it's trailer on YouTube looked very dull in comparison.
Exactly!! Hope someone can find a solution for this. Such a shame they are restricting what this phone can deliver.
Abby 244 said:
I too noticed this while putting wallpapers on mobile.
From 1st day I am using Google's gallery app i.e. Photos , while pictures looked brilliant in the app but whenever I set a picture as wallpaper , it looks dull.
Second time I noticed it when I saw Avengers on MX player, colors looked bright and punchy where as it's trailer on YouTube looked very dull in comparison.
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HOLLY CRAP!!! I looked at your pictures but really couldn't see it. I then did same test you did and I'm Blown Away. This is horrible. See the attached examples. We need to chase support on this one for sure. For reference..I used the YouTube app vs new pipe app. U also checked the stock photo gallery versus a replacement photo gallery and you can also see the difference there ....see the last pic
roxboxxx said:
HOLLY CRAP!!! I looked at your pictures but really couldn't see it. I then did same test you did and I'm Blown Away. This is horrible. See the attached examples. We need to chase support on this one for sure. For reference..I used the YouTube app vs new pipe app. U also checked the stock photo gallery versus a replacement photo gallery and you can also see the difference there ....see the last pic
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Here is the gallery pic
shri080 said:
Okay this had to be the title for the thread as what i discovered about NEX is seriously crazy.
What i discovered is, that NEX's display can render much better colours both while watching videos and browsing images, but the built AI **** is decreasing the quality of the display by reducing the saturation and a bit of sharpness.
How i discovered this: While i was browsing some 2K videos on NEX youtube app, i watched on video which is a 2K HDR 10 video and it looked completely off on the NEX display. It looked completely greyed out and horribly pale and i right away knew that the built in AI is doing something wrong. So, to further confirm this, i downloaded this app called NewPipe, which streams youtube videos and i saw that the same video which was looking horrible on the stock youtube app is looking really nice on this app. In fact the colours were looking as good as it looked on my Note 8. I was super surprised for a moment as i never thought NEX's display is capable of matching the Note 8's display in terms of colours and sharpness. So, once i was sure that its the AI thats decreasing the saturation of the display while we watch any content using the stock app, i downloaded a Gallery app from play store to check if its doing the same thing to the pictures too and as it turned out, the colours of the same image looked so much more better on that third party gallery app than it did in the stock gallery app.
So, now what i really want to know is, how to switch this AI thing off. If not completely, i want to at least disable it while watching videos and browsing images. I seriously dont know why has Vivo done this, as it is not doing any good to the display. In fact its bringing down the actual performance of the display which would have affected their sales over all. I am sure there would have been people comparing the Note 8 or S9's display to NEX and would have changed their decision based on it and one famous reviewer has compared it against the S9 plus and he clearly says the NEX's display cant match to the S9's, which is not at all the case.
I am super sensitive about colours and i really really happy that NEX can deliver colours as good as my Note 8, which was my only complain. While i am super happy after discovering this, i am equally restless to figure out a way to disable that AI thing on certain apps. You guys too can do this test and see the results for yourself. Let me know if anyone of you can find a solution for this.
Also, attaching comparison pictures of the display colours while using the stock gallery app against using a third party app.
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Can you compare both mobiles playing Netflix and Amazon prime?
Abby 244 said:
Can you compare both mobiles playing Netflix and Amazon prime?
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I did and the colors look much better on the Note 8 and I am sure that the colours on the NEX can also look equally better provided someone finds out a way to turn of the AI thing.
I wish I can unsee it
If you want to really hate the AI, access YouTube in your mobile browser and then switch to request the desktop version. Then set it to a high resolution and look at the stunning quality.
I now seriously hate this AI!
Also just validated ..this is happening with the official and vanced versions of the YouTube app.
Tested:
- I installed older official YouTube apps - same issue
- I installed a few third party YouTube apps - all had beautiful color saturation
Jesus!!
What a mess.
Good that i'm always uninstalling all stock app and replaced them with third party for example for gallery i'm using Google Photo or Quick Pic with all my smartphone.
But must be some kind of spesific services related to AI that should remove via ADB that would be the best solution.
Anyone contact ViVo about this problem ?
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Anyone contact ViVo about this problem ?
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I will be tomorrow with the photos and this forum presented as exhibits. I have been talking to vivo support on an off for the past week, so I suspect it will at least get logged.
I see the same problem. I used ES Explorer and default album with multitask to compare side by side. Really strange ...
I always use the QuickPic Since I got the device , However noticed the Bad quality with YouTube when I attempted to test a Video Playback . Mx player has better performance.
Lets Push Vivo Team to Correct this , There is a separate thread on XDA requesting them to release the source code.
Once they release the Source , I guess these problems will be Easily resolved.
Regards,
H
Also, you guys can use a third party app to set the wallpapers for both desktop and lock screen. It looks so much better when you do that. And if we should reach to Vivo on this. It's shame that their team has not checked on this, which is such a major thing.
Youtube and Youtube Vanced apps are playing video in 1080p HDR / 4KHDR mode , NewPipe is playing video in 1080p/4K Normal mode. you can check in video stream selection settings.
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Youtube and Youtube Vanced apps are playing video in 1080p HDR / 4KHDR mode , NewPipe is playing video in 1080p/4K Normal mode. you can check in video stream selection settings.
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That's interesting. But where do you find those settings? On the youtube app or under phone settings?
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Youtube and Youtube Vanced apps are playing video in 1080p HDR / 4KHDR mode , NewPipe is playing video in 1080p/4K Normal mode. you can check in video stream selection settings.
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Just download and install newpipe apk and then see the difference.
Abby 244 said:
Just download and install newpipe apk and then see the difference.
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I just do it and ... Wouah ...