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LTE in Kuwait

Folks,
Please take a Min and help a me out. Me and wife are currently stationed and residing in Kuwait. Kuwait launched 4G LTE service late last year. The LTE network runs on 1800MHz band 3. the same Band as Telstra Australia, and O2 Germany. i have tired almost everything to get my LTE working, yet no luck. Now, the service run on the Iphone 5 and my LTE USB dongle with no problems.
List of things i tried.
1- flashed the following firmware
a- JB Telstra Australia
b- JB Orange France- LTE ON
c- JB SFR France- LTE ON
d- JB Retail Brazilian
Currently running JB O2 Germany
2- tired the service menu to switch to LTE and that didn't work.
3- Attempted to change the band but unable to select or change.
4- the SIM card work fine on the Iphone, so no sim issue
5- The service is activated

Sorry i think i posted in the wrong section. please move to the correct area

4G isn't really LTE. Since you said it uses the same band as used the other 2 providers you should be able to access LTE by flashing the correct radios or the whole rom & using an LTE sim
Sent from my XT925

Also O2 Germany has 800/2600 bands. From which carrier did you purchase your phone?

Skrilax_CZ said:
Also O2 Germany has 800/2600 bands. From which carrier did you purchase your phone?
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Roger/Fido Canada. the device is not branded

This phone don't have the 1800 MHZ band ... only 700/1700 mhz band There are two different phone ! One for north america ! One for the rest of the world ! This is just not a baseband question or rom problem... i have post it on many topic but many people think this is the same phone the Fido/Rogers support LTE in 700/1700 band .. and support only hspa to 21mbits ( no DC-HSPA up to 42mbits like others country ! )
Sorry ! You never get LTE !

o2qc418 said:
This phone don't have the 1800 MHZ band ... only 700/1700 mhz band There are two different phone ! One for north america ! One for the rest of the world ! This is just not a baseband question or rom problem... i have post it on many topic but many people think this is the same phone the Fido/Rogers support LTE in 700/1700 band .. and support only hspa to 21mbits ( no DC-HSPA up to 42mbits like others country ! )
Sorry ! You never get LTE !
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Well. this just sucks big time!!!!! :crying: im glad someone have an answer after all

Just a quick thought. Did you check with your provider for a separate LTE APN?
I would probably be running the Telestra ROM to check this. Make sure your service menu reads "LTE/GSM/WCDMA". You can't select bands, but make sure it is "Automatic (2G/3G/4G)".
Looks like your phone should have the one that looks like "action.wataniya.com" (http://10.wataniya.com/customercare/configure/default_en_gb.aspx). Perhaps, also give them a call to check whether their site is up-to-date and this is the correct APN for their LTE network. Also, check your wife's phone. Is she using the same APN?
Just trying to help you troubleshoot.
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o2qc418 said:
This phone don't have the 1800 MHZ band ... only 700/1700 mhz band There are two different phone ! One for north america ! One for the rest of the world ! This is just not a baseband question or rom problem... i have post it on many topic but many people think this is the same phone the Fido/Rogers support LTE in 700/1700 band .. and support only hspa to 21mbits ( no DC-HSPA up to 42mbits like others country ! )
Sorry ! You never get LTE !
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Can you provide documentation? Motorola's site seems to suggest there is only one version based on their technical certifications. Which "model" are you using if I may ask. If you're using the "800/1800/2600" version, would you mind giving me the information on the back of your phone so I can dig up some info (FCC ID, Type, and IC ID). This will help look up documents in their technical specifications to confirm two models or more, if they exist.
It seems weird that Motorola would issue a XT926 just for a CDMA and only ONE XT925 number for multiple models (some of which do run CDMA)? It doesn't make sense from a business perspective either. Why produce many different GSM models, when you can produce one and alter the firmware (if for example it doesn't sell in Australia, flash a new ROM, repackage it, and ship it to Canada).
Just my two cents. If you have any of that info, PM me. I'd love to look into it.

UserDemos said:
Just a quick thought. Did you check with your provider for a separate LTE APN?
I would probably be running the Telestra ROM to check this. Make sure your service menu reads "LTE/GSM/WCDMA". You can't select bands, but make sure it is "Automatic (2G/3G/4G)".
Looks like your phone should have the one that looks like "action.wataniya.com" (http://10.wataniya.com/customercare/configure/default_en_gb.aspx). Perhaps, also give them a call to check whether their site is up-to-date and this is the correct APN for their LTE network. Also, check your wife's phone. Is she using the same APN?
Just trying to help you troubleshoot.
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Can you provide documentation? Motorola's site seems to suggest there is only one version based on their technical certifications. Which "model" are you using if I may ask. If you're using the "800/1800/2600" version, would you mind giving me the information on the back of your phone so I can dig up some info (FCC ID, Type, and IC ID). This will help look up documents in their technical specifications to confirm two models or more, if they exist.
It seems weird that Motorola would issue a XT926 just for a CDMA and only ONE XT925 number for multiple models (some of which do run CDMA)? It doesn't make sense from a business perspective either. Why produce many different GSM models, when you can produce one and alter the firmware (if for example it doesn't sell in Australia, flash a new ROM, repackage it, and ship it to Canada).
Just my two cents. If you have any of that info, PM me. I'd love to look into it.
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Sir- I want to point out that wataniya is not the provider for the LTE in Kuwait. I had I different SIM card when I took the screenshots. In fact it’s a US AT&T sim that roaming on Wataniya Telcom in Kuwait. The LTE provider in question is Zain Kuwait https://www.kw.zain.com/kw/af/home.do?lang=en . plus I have tried the Telestra firmware and used the correct APN for zain; the same APN I used on the iPhone 5 and the USB dongle. To add, I tried using the LTE/GSM/WCDMA, LTE/WCDMA, and LTE alone options and had it at automatic (2G/3G/4G When I set it at only LTE I lose single completely. The other options allow me 3G H+ only.
UserDemos makes a lot of sense! There are only two modles out there. The 926 and 925. I believed that 925 can run on LTE 700 / 800 / 1700 / 1800 / 2600 as advertised by Moto. She I don’t know where the problem is? Anyways the info as showen in the back of the phone are Model XT925 FCCID: IHDT56NG9 TYPE:M0D46 IC ID:109O-T56NG9 . and the BIG CE number is CE0168.
Thanks for not giving up :good:

Yes I confirmed that you bought the wrong phone.
This what happened to me. I'm in Etisalat 4G, so if you want razr hd with enabled 4G lte you should buy it from Australia or UK.
I recommend Clove or Handtec the release date after 2 days.

Power_Getter said:
Yes I confirmed that you bought the wrong phone.
This what happened to me. I'm in Etisalat 4G, so if you want razr hd with enabled 4G lte you should buy it from Australia or UK.
I recommend Clove or Handtec the release date after 2 days.
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Can you provide proof for the rest of the members here? Some of us are curious to know about the bizarre way this phone was manufactured.

Power_Getter said:
Yes I confirmed that you bought the wrong phone.
This what happened to me. I'm in Etisalat 4G, so if you want razr hd with enabled 4G lte you should buy it from Australia or UK.
I recommend Clove or Handtec the release date after 2 days.
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How did you confirmed this?

UserDemos said:
Can you provide proof for the rest of the members here? Some of us are curious to know about the bizarre way this phone was manufactured.
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Were able to figure this mastery out?

In many cases such as Milestone, Milestone 2 etc. there was a Canada / Latin American version and Europe / Asia version with different 3G bands - yet, the phone was called the same for all these versions (MS1 -> A853). Verizon's CDMA Droid (A855) was called differently and other CDMA carriers also had different name (such as MS A854).
This is the same thing, only about 4G bands.

There are 3 version of Razr Hd
XT926 for Verizon
XT925 for Canada, 4G band 700/1700/2100
XT925 for UK & Australia 4G bands 800/1800/2600

Power_Getter said:
There are 3 version of Razr Hd
XT926 for Verizon
XT925 for Canada, 4G band 700/1700/2100
XT925 for UK & Australia 4G bands 800/1800/2600
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We understand what you're saying, but if you don't supply PROOF to back up your claims, then it's going to be hard for anyone to acknowledge you're right.
Which version are you using? Provide us with the info on the bottom, so we can see what it looks like compared to the other version.

Power_Getter said:
There are 3 version of Razr Hd
XT926 for Verizon
XT925 for Canada, 4G band 700/1700/2100
XT925 for UK & Australia 4G bands 800/1800/2600
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No where in Moto website this info is listed. where are you getting this from?

There are 3 version of Razr Hd
XT926 for Verizon WITH LTE BAND FOR VERIZON ONLY ( BUT WORK IN HSPA WORLDWIDE TOO)
XT925 for Canada (and some others LATAM ) , 4G band 700/AWS ( no dual Channel HSPA up to 21 mbits )
XT925 for EUROPE & Australia 4G bands 800/1800/2600 ( and some LATAM country) ( Have Dual Channel HSPA up TO 42 mbits )
Is just not a baseband problem like many people say ... if the hardware don't support ... the hardware don't support ! Yes some phone have hidden band ! but not the case in the moto hd
I confirm again and again...
Proof is very difficult to find... but Motorola have made a bad move
but on the rogers website :
Connectivity
GSM Bands:
850/900/1800/1900
HSPA Bands:
850/900/1900/2100
LTE Bands:
700/AWS
Device Speed (LTE):
Up to 75 Mbps1
Wi-Fi:
Yes; 802.11a/b/g/n
GPS:
Yes
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Proof :
Motorola Australia
Networks LTE 800/1800/2600, UMTS 850/900/1900/2100, GSM/ 850/900/1800/1900, HSDPA is 42.2
Motorola De
Very ****ing
CDMA 800 1900, LTE B13, WCDMA 850 900 1900 2100, GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 EVDO Rev. A, HSDPA 21,1 Mbit/s (Kategorie 14), HSUPA 5,76 Mbit/s
This is the verizon specs (LTE B13 is the verizon 700 mhz band ... only used by verizon for the moment ) ... but deutchland is the same as australia... Motorola people work bad !
Motorola France
Nothing lol don't take any chance... and Orange carrier in France by exemple have a firmware who block LTE ! Lte actived only on SFR rom... again this is the
Networks LTE 800/1800/2600, UMTS 850/900/1900/2100, GSM/ 850/900/1800/1900, HSDPA is 42.2
Version !
Motorola UK
Networks 12 CDMA 800 1900, LTE B13, WCDMA 850 900 1900 2100, GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 EVDO Rev. A, HSDPA 21.1 Mbps (Cat 14), HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
AGAIN the ****ing Motorola guy have copy and paste from the Motorola US website ...
But the phone is
Networks LTE 800/1800/2600, UMTS 850/900/1900/2100, GSM/ 850/900/1800/1900, HSDPA is 42.2
Motorola Canada ...
Networks LTE B4 B17, WCDMA 850 900 1900 2100, GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900, HSDPA 21.1 Mbps (Cat 14), HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
LTE 700/AWS (1700) ONLYYYYY !!!!!
and 21 mbits !!!
Motorola U.S
CDMA 800 1900, LTE B13, WCDMA 850 900 1900 2100, GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 EVDO Rev. A, HSDPA 21,1 Mbit/s (Kategorie 14), HSUPA 5,76 Mbit/s
Motorola Mexico
Redes LTE: 700/1700 GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 WCDMA: 850/900/1900/2100 HSDPA+ HSUPA: 5.76 Mbps EDGE GPRS
The same as Rogers/Fido !
Motorola Brazil :
LTE: 700/1700 GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 WCDMA: 850/900/1900/2100 HSDPA+ HSUPA: 5.76 Mbps EDGE GPRS
Again same version as the Canadian and Mexico version ;p
Motorola Argentina :
LTE: 700/1700 GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 WCDMA: 850/900/1900/2100 HSDPA+ HSUPA: 5.76 Mbps EDGE GPRS
....
There are 3 version :
1 for Europe/Some asia-pacific !
1 for Canada and some latam
1 for U.S.A with Cdma and Lte just for U.S
if you want lte just check the band in your country ... and buy the device you want ...
If you want best battery go with the xt926 ... but you never get LTE . only 21mbits HSPA around the world !
if you want DC HSPA because no LTE ... buy the Europe Asia Version ... ( My carrier telus in canada have great DC HSPA coverage and speed are great near 25 mbits in download - i have sold my rogers version for the europeen version ... i never get LTE but my baterry is really good ... and have DC hspa in many many place )
if you want LTE choose the right phone before buying...
and oh yes ... the Motorola phone from U.S ... you can't unlock the bootloader !
and again don't listen people who claim is the same phone and this is just a baseband file problem !

motorola brazil razr hd has 2600mhz band.
I have one and all carriers here use this band...

difference between US and Global Versions

hello!
i ordered the Global GSM version of the moto G will it still work with US carriers?

lamaboy99 said:
hello!
i ordered the Global GSM version of the moto G will it still work with US carriers?
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Yes. I believe the difference is that the US version has the 1700AWS band for T-Mobile. Global has the 2100 band that works better overseas.

Ok thanks I don't have TMobile or one of their subsidiaries anyway and tend to travel over seas in the summer so looks like I made the right choice anyway

US radio specs:
Global GSM Model: GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)
US GSM Model:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (850, 1700 (AWS), 1900 MHz)
CDMA Model: CDMA/EVDO Rev A (850, 1900 MHz)
UK Band specs:
HSPA+ DL 21.1Mbps / UL 5.76Mbps- EV-DO Rev.A DL 3.1Mbps / UL 1.8Mbps
Bands/Modes CDMA: 850/1900 UMTS: 850/900/1700/1900/2100 GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
Canada, Telus Only
HSPA 850/900/1900/2100 ; GSM 850/900/1800/1900
above information pulled from thread here by no1_cdn here........
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2544708
i own the uk 8gb version screen capture of preferred list bellow

Thanks for the help guys

I'm thinking of getting the G. I will use it in Germany for 3 wks next year, and use it once (2-3 wks) in Taiwan when I visit my friends and family. I will mostly use it in the US trying out different prepaid plans. I think I'd better get a US version, but is there any chance to get 3G in Europe or Taiwan with a US version?
Thanks.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app

miinshiou said:
I'm thinking of getting the G. I will use it in Germany for 3 wks next year, and use it once (2-3 wks) in Taiwan when I visit my friends and family. I will mostly use it in the US trying out different prepaid plans. I think I'd better get a US version, but is there any chance to get 3G in Europe or Taiwan with a US version?
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No with the US version you will NOT get 3G in Europe or Taiwan. You will get 2G however. If you want 3G overseas you need to the global version but you lose T-mobiles AWS band support.

thanks. Is there a phone (moto x, nexus 5, or anything) that support 3G band of all carriers in all regions?
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app

A thing that I've noticed in the reviews is that the US versions of the phone, the cases (at least the black one) has a "metallic" look on that M on the back while the Global / European version that M it's only glossy.

Just got my US 16gb model yesterday via Amazon. Back cover has a glossy black "M" logo, nothing metallic about it.
Bummer to hear this phone won't do 3G in Europe, I went with the USA model since I just moved over to T-mobile, and a lot of the 3G signal in my area is still on 1700 mhz. My AT&T phone was getting 3G in a lot of areas, but just enough EDGE data to annoy me and make me buy the G.

D821 model works in US?

hi friends,
i am going to US for the business trip and my question is will my international version Nexus 5 (D821) LTE or 3G work in either ATT or Tmobile?
Thanks for any helps.

cshih2 said:
hi friends,
i am going to US for the business trip and my question is will my international version Nexus 5 (D821) LTE or 3G work in either ATT or Tmobile?
Thanks for any helps.
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I do not believe you will have any problems with LTE on those networks.

stevemw said:
I do not believe you will have any problems with LTE on those networks.
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The following is the difference between D820 and D821(what i have), so should i go with ATT or Tmobile? i will be staying in LA area.
North America (D820) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
Outside North America (D821) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20

cshih2 said:
The following is the difference between D820 and D821(what i have), so should i go with ATT or Tmobile? i will be staying in LA area.
North America (D820) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
Outside North America (D821) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20
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You will not get LTE from either ATT or Tmobile as the Tmobile uses Band 4 AWS for LTE while ATT mostly uses Band 17 700B+C, Band 2 PCS A-F, Band 4 AWS, and some Band 5 CL850.
WCDMA HSPA+ will be fine. T-mobile runs HSPA+21 while ATT runs HSPA+14.4. Both have a day to day prepaid service that you can use to test them out before you choose.

Sorry, I was wrong. Both AT&T and T-Mobile use Band 4 ( and AT&T has band 17) for LTE. I was mistakenly considering only the network frequencies, which was wrong when considering LTE. You won't get LTE on either carrier with the D821, and can only get DC-HSDPA with T-Mobile.
Sorry for the misinformation.

thanks alot all, so there are two options on tmobile for day to day pre pay, will the $3 option work on my international version N5 (D821)? i only see either 2g or 4g in Tmobile? no 3g in tmobile? i am kind of lost on this. (all i need is faster internet on my N5, whats the best option for me to choose?)
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/pay-by-the-day-cell-phone-plans

cshih2 said:
thanks alot all, so there are two options on tmobile for day to day pre pay, will the $3 option work on my international version N5 (D821)? i only see either 2g or 4g in Tmobile? no 3g in tmobile? i am kind of lost on this. (all i need is faster internet on my N5, whats the best option for me to choose?)
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/pay-by-the-day-cell-phone-plans
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T-Mobile's "4G" will include HSPA+ (Upgraded 3g).

Same situatioin !
So happy to find this post !
I have EXACTELY the same "problem"
I do have the Nexus 5 D821 and I'm going to L.A. for one month.
Can you tell me wich solution did you choose and if it worked well for you ?
Also how much do you have to pay for how much Data ?
Thanks so much for your help !!!

I have some friends that went through this when they came to visit the States (also with D821). T-Mobile is your best option. You won't get 4g, but you will get fairly good H+.

treesurf said:
I have some friends that went through this when they came to visit the States (also with D821). T-Mobile is your best option. You won't get 4g, but you will get fairly good H+.
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Great thank you very much for your help !!!

Same thing goes for me. Going to LA area for an internship. I guess I will get a new phone then. I've been advised to choose either AT&T or Verizon.
Can someone confirm?

android.racer said:
Same thing goes for me. Going to LA area for an internship. I guess I will get a new phone then. I've been advised to choose either AT&T or Verizon.
Can someone confirm?
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Yes I can confirm it totally works !!!
Not for the 4G of course but for me it's fast enough with the 3G.
But maybe you'll have to make your APN manually like I had to do.
By the way I find a GREAT carrier, ultra.me
For $39 you can have :
+ Illimited talk & text
+ Illimited international calls and text !!!
+ Illimited Internet (not 4G)
+ more !!!

Will a "foreign" OnePlusOne support UK LTE Bands

Hi
If I buy the one plus one from Singapore will it support UK LTE bands?
Best Regards

mikber18 said:
Hi
If I buy the one plus one from Singapore will it support UK LTE bands?
Best Regards
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Connectivity
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/4/7/17/38/40
According to website it will work ONLY with EE and 3. I assume that they are all the same whether it be 'foreign' or not.

Don't work on o2

jazz452 said:
Don't work on o2
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I'm not so bothered about it not working on O2 because I happen to be on Three. Any ideas about Three LTE connectivity?
What determines the LTE connectivity? Frequencies that the network operates on or what?

According to OnePlus.net both 3 and EE are supported in UK.

HUAWEI Honor X2 GEM-702L 4G - (newb)

I'm in the UK,
Will a Phone SIM from Three UK network work in the HUAWEI Honor X2 GEM-702L 4G ?
the reason I ask here rather than Three support is because those guys previously steered me wrong,
any advice appreciated before I order this phone from China, thanks guys.

nikev215 said:
I'm in the UK,
Will a Phone SIM from Three UK network work in the HUAWEI Honor X2 GEM-702L 4G ?
the reason I ask here rather than Three support is because those guys previously steered me wrong,
any advice appreciated before I order this phone from China, thanks guys.
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In the UK the bands used are bands 1,3,7,8 and 20. The Gem-702L has bands 1,3,7 and 8 but not band 20. I'm pretty sure band 20 is the lower mhz (800 MHz) band for in building coverage (similar to T-Mobile's band 12 here in the US) You should get LTE just fine but in buildings where LTE coverage isn't the greatest you may only get 3G as the X2 doesn't utilize band 20 in the UK. From what I see for Three is that they use 2100mhz for 3G and 800mhz and 1800mhz for 4G. The X2 doesn't have 800mhz but has 1800 mhz so 4G should work.

Sorry. Posted on the wrong thread.

I am on Three in Austria here use "3" LTE 2600 and 1800 MHz perfect for Mediapad X2 703L and 702L,since the two have no Band20
But Three in UK use LTE Bands 1800 and 800MHz,only Mediapad X2 701L supports 800MHz (Band 20)
But LTE 800 is used only in rural areas and in the city the 1800MHz

Hiya, I'm on the 3 network in the uk, GEM 702L and I have no problem with 4g or any other network issues.
Bought the phone from 'Oxford Street' on amazon, not directly from china.

many thanks guys,
it turns out the phone I have ordered is the GEM 703L version, according to the Huawei web site it uses the following 4G bands
1800MHz (Band 3)
2100MHz (Band 1)
2600MHz (Band 7)
UK Three network uses 4G on
1800MHz (Band 3)
800MHz (Band 20)
and 3G on
2100MHz (Band 1)
it should be OK.
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