My wife and I got the Google Fi BOGO deal. My wife is staying on Fi, but work pays for a Verizon line for myself. So we bought both phones, and are going to pay for 1 month of Fi for my line, and keep hers going on Fi. Phones just arrived. Wondering what order I should do things to bootloader unlock & root. Hearing some of the horror stories with switching carriers, so I wanted to see if someone has the correct order I should use to do my unlocks, swapping out SIM, etc. I already got charged for the phone, so it shouldn't be carrier locked.
Do you already have an active Verizon SIM? If so, you just put it into your phone and you're good to go.
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Do you already have an active Verizon SIM? If so, you just put it into your phone and you're good to go.
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I didn't buy from Fi but Google Store. I had an active VZW SIM in my Pixel 2 XL and popped it into my 3 XL, simple as that. Unlocking the bootloader and rooting is still possible after using a VZW SIM. Only the IMEIs sold by VZE/BBY should be locked/disabled.
Unlocking the bootloader wipes the device, so it's usually best to do that first at a minimum before setting anything up so you don't have to set everything up twice.
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Do you already have an active Verizon SIM? If so, you just put it into your phone and you're good to go.
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Yes, my current phone is Verizon, so I have an active SIM. Do I need to talk to Verizon to get it to work on their network? Or just swap cards and good to go?
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Yes, my current phone is Verizon, so I have an active SIM. Do I need to talk to Verizon to get it to work on their network? Or just swap cards and good to go?
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Just swap and go
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So are all verizon Rhodium phones CDMA with GSM only when out of country?
Which meaning at the moment have no HARD-spl and are able to flash?
I've added some custom apps to my phone which is from verizon and is not flashed. So i was just curious.
Thanks,
Alfredo
SlashX1896 said:
So are all verizon Rhodium phones CDMA with GSM only when out of country?
Which meaning at the moment have no HARD-spl and are able to flash?
I've added some custom apps to my phone which is from verizon and is not flashed. So i was just curious.
Thanks,
Alfredo
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If you call Verizon (and have their service for awhile, in good standing) they will guide you to unlocking the SIM slot 'for use outside of the country'. Once unlocked, it will work with TMobile, AT&T and any other GSM provider in the US that doesn't do IMEI checking, or that allow the TP2 on their network, in which IMEI checking wouldn't be a problem.
Anyways, get the unlock code for your device (specific to your device) from Verizon, scroll to SETTINGS on the homescreen, click ALL SETTINGS, click PERSONAL, click SECURITY and enter the unlock code they gave you and your phone will SIM unlock itself.
As for Hard-SPL, I haven't seen anything about it yet.. but I haven't been searching, since the phone already does what I'd like it to with simple cab installs.
I hope this helps!
-mak
Yeah ive had verizon for a good amount of years now. So i might give that a try. and yeah. I agree about hard SPL.
Are there any other advantages to unlocking the sim card other then being able to change services?
I am still new with all this, and unaware the advantages of unlocking the SIM card.
Curious for In Country and Out of country.
Like what are benefits of it while still in the states?
and what are the benefits if i go to canada? does this mean i don't have to pay extra for the plan while in canada to make phonecalls/texts/data?
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Anyways, get the unlock code for your device (specific to your device) from Verizon, scroll to SETTINGS on the homescreen, click ALL SETTINGS, click PERSONAL, click SECURITY and enter the unlock code they gave you and your phone will SIM unlock itself.
-mak
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I believe you may be incorrect on that, check this out, I have yet to verify this my self but from what I have read here and other places the GSM will be unlocked for use overseas. This way you can use another country's SIM card instead of Verizon's SIM (expensive rates) while overseas for an extended period of time.
There are now several threads in several forums about this.
What people often leave out when they talk about what their phone can do is what carrier they have it on.
With Verizon, when you SIM Unlock the phone you can toss in any SIM and it'll work. I personally have a UK SIM and works fine in the US on my Verizon TP2 unlocked. Others have reported using TMobile (US) or AT&T (US) SIM's just fine in their Verizon TP2's after unlocking.
Sprint TP2's come unlocked but will NOT register at all on US carriers (even with a foreign SIM).
--Chris
Oh so i have to somehow get a hold of another sim card?
nowwww i get it.
so unless i plan on actually going out of country there really is no point in unlocking my phone.
SlashX1896 said:
Oh so i have to somehow get a hold of another sim card?
nowwww i get it.
so unless i plan on actually going out of country there really is no point in unlocking my phone.
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I unlocked mine, just in case I ever decide to leave Verizon to go to Tmobile or AT&T (yeah, right lol).. or for when I upgrade, it makes it more universal when it comes time to sell it.
It costs you nothing if you're a Verizon customer in good standing, I'd unlock it just in case
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Yeah good point. I was more curious on flashing purposes, but TBH i have no use to flash it. Though once the markeplace comes out, im assuming its going to be like the iphones appstore? and hoping in time we find ways to "jailbreak" or something to get them free, thats always fun lol.
Now i do travel to canada a lot. But unlocking it has no use unless i actually pay for the plan and a sim card? I know verizon offers a plan for it, but i dont got that much to where il pay extra for the plan was just curious.
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Now i do travel to canada a lot. But unlocking it has no use unless i actually pay for the plan and a sim card? I know verizon offers a plan for it, but i dont got that much to where il pay extra for the plan was just curious.
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some folks over at PPCGeeks pointed out that in some situations, it might be cheaper to just buy a prepaid sim card when traveling abroad, as the prepaid cards could prove to be a cheaper alternative to verizon's international roaming rates through verizon's sim card, included with the Rhodium.
Alright, thanks i'll look into that.
the problem with going to canada is the sim card has nothing to do with their network. it is still CDMA in canada and while you may have an unlocked phone and different sim card, verizons network will still pick up your phone and charge you accordingly.
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the problem with going to canada is the sim card has nothing to do with their network. it is still CDMA in canada and while you may have an unlocked phone and different sim card, verizons network will still pick up your phone and charge you accordingly.
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If you have an unlocked phone and a different SIM card in, if you set it to GSM mode Verizon won't/can't charge you for using it in Canada.
Hope thatyour right iamrobk, elsewise im confused.
Hey guys, I have a rooted and s-offed m8 currently running viperrom. I plan on switching the phone around to another line soon.(So i would swap phones with another person on my plan, but keep my same number to clarify) Will anything the reps do flag that my phone has been modded? Also, if they will be able to know, is there anyway to return the phone to complete stock and not have the tampered sign on the fastboot screen? Or can I still switch the numbers on the phones around online and avoid taking it to the store completely?
Thanks Guys
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Hey guys, I have a rooted and s-offed m8 currently running viperrom. I plan on switching the phone around to another line soon.(So i would swap phones with another person on my plan, but keep my same number to clarify) Will anything the reps do flag that my phone has been modded? Also, if they will be able to know, is there anyway to return the phone to complete stock and not have the tampered sign on the fastboot screen? Or can I still switch the numbers on the phones around online and avoid taking it to the store completely?
Thanks Guys
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Is the phone originally from Verizon? Phones from other carriers won't work with Verizon. T-Mobile and AT&T use GSM, and although Sprint uses CDMA like VZW, their phones won't work on VZW either.
If the phone is a Verizon phone, then switching it to another line/number should be as simple as putting in the SIM card for that line.
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Is the phone originally from Verizon? Phones from other carriers won't work with Verizon. T-Mobile and AT&T use GSM, and although Sprint uses CDMA like VZW, their phones won't work on VZW either.
If the phone is a Verizon phone, then switching it to another line/number should be as simple as putting in the SIM card for that line.
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Yes, it is originally from Verizon. I am swapping my m8 for a G3 on Verizon. I'm not sure if the G3 has the same size SIM card like you mention .
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Yes, it is originally from Verizon. I am swapping my m8 for a G3 on Verizon. I'm not sure if the G3 has the same size SIM card like you mention .
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From what I can gather, both use a micro SIM. You shouldn't have any problems.
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From what I can gather, both use a micro SIM. You shouldn't have any problems.
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Thanks for all the help! I'm not positive, but i think the M8 uses a nano sim, while the G3 uses a micro, which is bigger.
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Thanks for all the help! I'm not positive, but i think the M8 uses a nano sim, while the G3 uses a micro, which is bigger.
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I think you're right. The M7 uses a micro SIM, but google searches say the M8 uses a nano SIM.
When I purchased my Nexus 6P several years ago, I just swapped my Verizon SIM out of my Note 4 and went on my merry way. My Dad asked for a phone recommendation and I recommended the Pixel 2, thinking it would work the same way. Now I discover there's a carrier-unlocked version and a Verizon version. I don't want the Verizon bloatware on his phone and would rather not have to begin by deleting a bunch of apps (if Verizon will actually allow me to uninstall any apps [they love to install bloatware as system apps])as I'm the first step in his tech support hierarchy. I doubt I'll root his phone but I definitely don't want to have a locked bootloader which seems to be the Verizon standard.
If I get him the carrier-unlocked version and put his Verizon SIM card in, will it work on Evil Red's, I mean Big Red's network? I couldn't find any radio differentiation on Google's tech specs page.
Thank you for any information you can provide me.
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When I purchased my Nexus 6P several years ago, I just swapped my Verizon SIM out of my Note 4 and went on my merry way. My Dad asked for a phone recommendation and I recommended the Pixel 2, thinking it would work the same way. Now I discover there's a carrier-unlocked version and a Verizon version. I don't want the Verizon bloatware on his phone and would rather not have to begin by deleting a bunch of apps (if Verizon will actually allow me to uninstall any apps [they love to install bloatware as system apps])as I'm the first step in his tech support hierarchy. I doubt I'll root his phone but I definitely don't want to have a locked bootloader which seems to be the Verizon standard.
If I get him the carrier-unlocked version and put his Verizon SIM card in, will it work on Evil Red's, I mean Big Red's network? I couldn't find any radio differentiation on Google's tech specs page.
Thank you for any information you can provide me.
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It'll work they are all the same. Just don't put the sim in until after the setup process. From my understanding if you get the one from Verizon it will not install Verizon apps if you setup the phone without a sim in it. However you couldn't unlock the bootloader(there's a hack for it I believe).
Verizon installs the MyVerizon and go90 apps from the play store after setup if you have a vzw sim in it which can both be uninstalled. (Google store version does this too)
Only difference in versions is the verizon branded model comes with a sim in it and oem unlock is greyed out
Thank you! I've ordered the Carrier-Unlocked model from the Play Store for him and will set it up for him when it arrives.
I like the blue version, but it seems that Verizon model has it and not the carrier unlocked version. So the question is, if I will pick Verizon from google store, will the unit come carrier unlocked or it will be locked to Verizon?
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I like the blue version, but it seems that Verizon model has it and not the carrier unlocked version. So the question is, if I will pick Verizon from google store, will the unit come carrier unlocked or it will be locked to Verizon?
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It's carrier unlocked they all are. The only thing you can't unlock is the bootloader.
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It's carrier unlocked they all are. The only thing you can't unlock is the bootloader.
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Oh, that isn't an issue for me. All I need the phone to be sim unlocked. I have heard that original pixel phone which was purchased form Verizon had also bootloader locked. What some users did, was that when they bought the phone new, removed Verizon sim, then turned of phone without the sim card and went through the set up. After that they were able to toggle OEM unlock. I don't know if it is the same for Pixel 2 phones.
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Oh, that isn't an issue for me. All I need the phone to be sim unlocked. I have heard that original pixel phone which was purchased form Verizon had also bootloader locked. What some users did, was that when they bought the phone new, removed Verizon sim, then turned of phone without the sim card and went through the set up. After that they were able to toggle OEM unlock. I don't know if it is the same for Pixel 2 phones.
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From this point around it Sims that was fixed. You won't get the apps but the bootloader stays unlockable.
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I've already gotten the unlock code from AT&T. The unlock instructions say to use a non AT&T Sim card. What Sim card do I use? And where can I buy it? Thanks!!
US phone, you can use any other company. Go hit up a cell store at your pick. Where r u located?
In in the US, Virginia specifically. So since VZ is the other major option in my area I can go to a store and buy just a sim card with no hassle?
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In in the US, Virginia specifically. So since VZ is the other major option in my area I can go to a store and buy just a sim card with no hassle?
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You dont need to buy one just ask anyone you may know not on at&t does not have to be an active sim
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You dont need to buy one just ask anyone you may know not on at&t does not have to be an active sim
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Indeed. Don't buy a new one, no need to pay for it. You need the non-AT&T SIM card for only a few minutes so you can perform the unlock process.
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In in the US, Virginia specifically. So since VZ is the other major option in my area I can go to a store and buy just a sim card with no hassle?
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Nice lived in Johnson city Tn for years. Spent a lot of time in Bristol and Abingdon working.
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Nice lived in Johnson city Tn for years. Spent a lot of time in Bristol and Abingdon working.
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Fascinating. I don't live too very far from those areas. Where are you now?
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You dont need to buy one just ask anyone you may know not on at&t does not have to be an active sim
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Indeed. Don't buy a new one, no need to pay for it. You need the non-AT&T SIM card for only a few minutes so you can perform the unlock process.
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So I just use the non AT&T Sim only as long as the unlocking process takes, eh? So that means I put my current Sim back in it? And if that's the case, will I be able to use my phone in areas with little or no AT&T coverage without having to swap out Sims?
Did I mention that this is my first time unlocking a phone? LoL
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So I just use the non AT&T Sim only as long as the unlocking process takes, eh? So that means I put my current Sim back in it? And if that's the case, will I be able to use my phone in areas with little or no AT&T coverage without having to swap out Sims?
Did I mention that this is my first time unlocking a phone? LoL
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yea you have to Use another carrier sim to get the popup to come up to enter the unlock code. Then u can put att sim back in..
You will have to swap the sims to use each carrier......
I am in a the wonderful state of vermont now lol
So if you have to swap Sims, I may as well buy the non AT&T Sim and use it for the unlocking process, as well, right?
Vermont, you say? Never been. I'll take your word that it's wonderful.
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So if you have to swap Sims, I may as well buy the non AT&T Sim and use it for the unlocking process, as well, right?
Vermont, you say? Never been. I'll take your word that it's wonderful.
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You could yes as if u want [email protected] network u have to use their sim and say if u want to use T Mobile You insert their sim
So yea if you say want to use theirs as if you dont have signal and plan on purchasing their "plan"
So, technically, if you use the non AT&T Sim you would have to pay to use their network? Wow, should have saw that coming. Lol Nothing is free. Well now I feel kind of stupid. Oh well, live and learn I suppose.
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I've already gotten the unlock code from AT&T. The unlock instructions say to use a non AT&T Sim card. What Sim card do I use? And where can I buy it? Thanks!!
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u dont need a different SIM to test if is unlocked.
simply, open the dialer
dial: #7465625*638*#
enter the code u received thats specific to your device, then it should say unlock successful.
hope this helps ya.
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u dont need a different SIM to test if is unlocked.
simply, open the dialer
dial: #7465625*638*#
enter the code u received thats specific to your device, then it should say unlock successful.
hope this helps ya.
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It said unlock successful. Does that mean that it's permanently unlocked?
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It said unlock successful. Does that mean that it's permanently unlocked?
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yes. now, keep in mind, as this is the AT&T variant, its unlocked for GSM only .so if ur switching carriers, make sure it says GSM. Sim cards that use CDMA wont work like Verizon or Sprint.
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yes. now, keep in mind, as this is the AT&T variant, its unlocked for GSM only .so if ur switching carriers, make sure it says GSM. Sim cards that use CDMA wont work like Verizon or Sprint.
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Well, I can't switch carriers. Not sure I'd want to anyway. But other than being able to switch to any carrier (and have to pay to do so) is there no other benefits of unlocking a phone?
Not really. It just allows other carriers to work. And it will have a higher resale value as it's not just tied to AT&T.
Oh ok. Thanks for the info. I can say I learned something, if nothing else.
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Well, I can't switch carriers. Not sure I'd want to anyway. But other than being able to switch to any carrier (and have to pay to do so) is there no other benefits of unlocking a phone?
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Well, it it's unlocked, able to use any other GSM networks now, functionally it is now a 'universal' phone, as most out of US carriers are GSM. That is one important need for me.
Hello everyone I have a question i just oderded a s22 ultra from att I have a 3 year contract with them for device payments but basically the phone was free. I also have a tmobile acct i dont plan on canceling either. I have the magenta max on tmobile and an unlimited on att is it possible to use my phone on both networks with the phone being locked to att or am i able to change sims and use it as long as i keep both accts current. I am not trying to do anything shady just wondering if i can use it on both networks would much rather do that becuase it gives me so much more for hot spots since i can use the 50 from att and the 40 from tmobile i know i could if the phone was unlocked but i cant do that for three years
Thanks in advance
no, its locked to att networks (mvno will work too)
Thanks for the reply
i figured it would be locked but it would of been nice to be able to work on both. what is mvno?
I wonder if he could use the esim on TMobile?
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Hello everyone I have a question i just oderded a s22 ultra from att I have a 3 year contract with them for device payments but basically the phone was free. I also have a tmobile acct i dont plan on canceling either. I have the magenta max on tmobile and an unlimited on att is it possible to use my phone on both networks with the phone being locked to att or am i able to change sims and use it as long as i keep both accts current. I am not trying to do anything shady just wondering if i can use it on both networks would much rather do that becuase it gives me so much more for hot spots since i can use the 50 from att and the 40 from tmobile i know i could if the phone was unlocked but i cant do that for three years
Thanks in advance
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All of the US models support dual SIM (physical SIM plus eSIM). You should be able to use the physical SIM for one network, and the eSIM for the other. AT&T will most likely be the primary (physical SIM) and T-Mobile the secondar (E-SIM). Once you get it activated on AT&T go into Settings -> Connections -> SIM card manager.
From there it will allow you to "Add mobile plan" for the eSIM. That should allow you to active your T-Mobile account.
I don't know how that works in practice and you may have to talk to both AT&T and T-Mobile to work it out.
oh wow that is awesome thanks for letting me know
this is off the topic but are any of you using screen and camera protectors on top of using a case?
You need to get the device unlocked to have it work on T-Mobile at all, ESIM or physical. You have 2 choices: Pay off the device in full and then request a SIM unlock, or pay for an unlock service on Ebay. AT&T won't do **** for you until the device is paid in full.
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this is off the topic but are any of you using screen and camera protectors on top of using a case?
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Nope.
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You need to get the device unlocked to have it work on T-Mobile at all, ESIM or physical. You have 2 choices: Pay off the device in full and then request a SIM unlock, or pay for an unlock service on Ebay. AT&T won't do **** for you until the device is paid in full.
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Yes. AT&T will require it to be paid off to unlock the physical SIM. The eSIM isn't activated and therefore probably isn't locked. As long as he's using it on its network with the physical SIM, I don't think AT&T will care about the eSIM being used on T-mobile.
This is kinda new territory with phones being produced with both physical SIM and eSIM.
I can tell you with 100% certainty, it's locked.
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You need to get the device unlocked to have it work on T-Mobile at all, ESIM or physical. You have 2 choices: Pay off the device in full and then request a SIM unlock, or pay for an unlock service on Ebay. AT&T won't do **** for you until the device is paid in full.
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Not true. AT&T unlocked my Note 20 ultra that was still under contract. I told them I was going overseas for an extended period of time and they unlocked my phone. I had 13 payments left.