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[Completed] [Q] Can I update android version after rooting, if so how ?

Today when I decided to update to the latest android (5.1.1) with rooted nexus 5. I rebooted
my phone and it started installing when suddenly a picture of the android robot with a red triangle sign on top appears and under it it says error so I restarted my phone by holding down the power button for several seconds and when I get in to my phone it says that I'm updated to 5.1. But what I understand that's correct so now I'm wondering how to deal with future updates because I can't afford to brick my phone and I thought I could just download OTA updates normally after root so my question is, can I normally install OTA updates, if not How?
[Edit]Later today I got the update to 5.1.1 message again and its really annoying and I want the update now so how do I get it?
Thanks for reading.

Hi, thank you for using XDA Assist. No, you can't use the OTA if your rooted with 5.x and above. To update you'll most likely need to flash the stock frimware. but you never let us know what your device is so i can't point you in the right direction.

jd1639 said:
Hi, thank you for using XDA Assist. No, you can't use the OTA if your rooted with 5.x and above. To update you'll most likely need to flash the stock frimware. but you never let us know what your device is so i can't point you in the right direction.
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Thank you for answering, I have a nexus 5 but I guess I´ll have to flash the stock firmware if there is no other way that isn´t too complicated.

All right. You'll want to see these, http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/info-nexus-5-ota-help-desk-t2523217 , http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/info-nexus-5-ota-help-desk-t2523217 It's possible to update by only flashing the system, boot, and radio images files with fastboot. You'll lose root but you can easily regain it by flashing supersu in your custom recovery.
Also don't forget there's a complete forum for the Nexus 5 here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5

jd1639 said:
All right. You'll want to see these, http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/info-nexus-5-ota-help-desk-t2523217 , http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/info-nexus-5-ota-help-desk-t2523217 It's possible to update by only flashing the system, boot, and radio images files with fastboot. You'll lose root but you can easily regain it by flashing supersu in your custom recovery.
Also don't forget there's a complete forum for the Nexus 5 here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5
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I just spent 2 hours trying to flash the system but all i ended up with was a factory reset after following this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/tutorial-how-to-flash-factory-image-t2513701 so all i want to do now is just getting rid of root so I can update but the guides that i understand doesn´t work because when I tried to flash the hammerhead bootloader it said the my device requires another version. The i took the version that my nexus is in right now 5.1.0 and it appeared to be working so when it was finished I followed the guide and i wiped my system for about 5 minutes and then i chose reboot system from the recovery mode menu. And now im back at where i started.
(Edit) Now I´m installing SDK and following another guide online http://www.talkandroid.com/guides/b...-lollipop-factory-image-on-your-nexus-device/

It turns out all i had to do was to unlock my phone and then I installed 5.1.1 just fine

Yep, that's the first step. Glad you got it working. I'll close this thread.

6045i usa latest 5.0.2-01001

hello i am rooted with twrp recovery installed. I was able to unroot and download the latest 5.0.2-01001 ota but im not able to install the update it would just take me to twrp recovery and stop there.?? i found the update zip and tried to flash it in twrp but it says it cant mount and failed to flash any help would be appreciated.

OTA updates will require a stock recovery. I'm in the process of getting an Idol 3 but I used to have an Idol 2 and, to return to a completely stock ROM, I had to use the Alcatel Mobile upgrade too which identified my phone, downloaded the correct firmware, and restored the phone. Prior to restoring back to stock, I had cwm and root.

Thanks for the reply I tried the software update but its not working keep saying I have the latest even when I did a full wipe. Using the latest 4.9.2 version...is there a way to make a twrp flashable ota zip from the downloaded update file in the ota cache..

lude86 said:
hello i am rooted with twrp recovery installed. I was able to unroot and download the latest 5.0.2-01001 ota but im not able to install the update it would just take me to twrp recovery and stop there.?? i found the update zip and tried to flash it in twrp but it says it cant mount and failed to flash any help would be appreciated.
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You cannot be rooted and install a stock update...it's mentioned in several places throughout the forum. Quickest solution is to use the mobile q to restore the whole phone to factory (and in the process it will put the latest version on it). Otherwise you have to fully unroot AND if you have modified any files such as build.prop or other system files it still won't work. You CAN install with TWRP however in the process of the install it will overwrite it with stock recovery. If I had to guess I'd say you did not do the supersu FULL unroot.

famewolf said:
You cannot be rooted and install a stock update...it's mentioned in several places throughout the forum. Quickest solution is to use the mobile q to restore the whole phone to factory (and in the process it will put the latest version on it). Otherwise you have to fully unroot AND if you have modified any files such as build.prop or other system files it still won't work. You CAN install with TWRP however in the process of the install it will overwrite it with stock recovery. If I had to guess I'd say you did not do the supersu FULL unroot.
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mobile Q is horse manure now. I ran into the same problem, whereby it says you're up to date (which it's not), even if you're running 5.0.2.7SMA-UEA1 ! I only know that one because I inadvertently flashed 5.0.2.7SMA-UEA1 today when I meant to flash 5.0.2.7SRA-UEA2.
Speaking of 5.0.2-01001, 5.0.2.7SRA-UEA2 is on longer the latest yeah... anyway we can update the firmware page? http://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/general/want-to-able-to-install-ota-updates-t3163745
I just tried to OTA update to 5.0.2-01001, but OTA of course does not work if TWRP is acting recovery; it just reboots to TWRP and then if you reboot system, nothing happens. Although seemingly never mentioned, we must remove TWRP (even read only TWRP) before updating OTA?

tekka-maki said:
mobile Q is horse manure now. I ran into the same problem, whereby it says you're up to date (which it's not), even if you're running 5.0.2.7SMA-UEA1 ! I only know that one because I inadvertently flashed 5.0.2.7SMA-UEA1 today when I meant to flash 5.0.2.7SRA-UEA2.
Speaking of 5.0.2-01001, 5.0.2.7SRA-UEA2 is on longer the latest yeah... anyway we can update the firmware page? http://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/general/want-to-able-to-install-ota-updates-t3163745
I just tried to OTA update to 5.0.2-01001, but OTA of course does not work if TWRP is acting recovery; it just reboots to TWRP and then if you reboot system, nothing happens. Although seemingly never mentioned, we must remove TWRP (even read only TWRP) before updating OTA?
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The thread is closed. There is also no reason you NEED the most recent posted as you can flash any of them and then do an update. Mobile Q is the recommended method to re-do your phone if you can't manage to make a backup before messing with it. It has apparently worked just fine for people in this forum for every model type mentioned so the burden of proof is on your part if you can't get it to work.

famewolf said:
The thread is closed. There is also no reason you NEED the most recent posted as you can flash any of them and then do an update. Mobile Q is the recommended method to re-do your phone if you can't manage to make a backup before messing with it. It has apparently worked just fine for people in this forum for every model type mentioned so the burden of proof is on your part if you can't get it to work.
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Why would the thread be 'closed'. OP's problem is unresolved.
'Worked' is the operative term for. Perhaps you haven't used to Mobile Q tool lately? As OP (and I) said (today), running OTA from 6045 now just reboots to TWRP, no install. Alternately, when attempting to update 6045 from Mobile Q, it just throws a funny English 'update no needed' kinduva message (pic). Incidentally, have you been to their website to find an update to this tool? Holy crap, in that respect, Mobile Q must be a virtual breakthrough for these boys! :laugh:
You're so helpful here famewolf. I've both appreciated and have been comforted by seeing your knowledge all over this subforum, since day 1. Please provide help. You tell me where this 'people' person is, and I'll wank on his boner for you. Then we have a definition of 'working fine' in stead of 'worked fine'. ? :angel:

tekka-maki said:
Why would the thread be 'closed'. OP's problem is unresolved.
'Worked' is the operative term for. Perhaps you haven't used to Mobile Q tool lately? As OP (and I) said (today), running OTA from 6045 now just reboots to TWRP, no install. Alternately, when attempting to update 6045 from Mobile Q, it just throws a funny English 'update no needed' kinduva message (pic). Incidentally, have you been to their website to find an update to this tool? Holy crap, in that respect, Mobile Q must be a virtual breakthrough for these boys! :laugh:
You're so helpful here famewolf. I've both appreciated and have been comforted by seeing your knowledge all over this subforum, since day 1. Please provide help. You tell me where this 'people' person is, and I'll wank on his boner for you. Then we have a definition of 'working fine' in stead of 'worked fine'. ? :angel:
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The thread that is closed is the one YOU mentioned.... not the op. http://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/general/want-to-able-to-install-ota-updates-t3163745
I dont use mobile Q as I use Linux and they don't have a linux version. I use 3rd party roms such as AICP with the ARDE non OC rom. TWRP puts a log in /tmp...did you look at what the error message says? OTA updates will NOT apply if you have updated system files such as build.prop. Thats all I can tell you because I can't try what you are using.

famewolf said:
The thread that is closed is the one YOU mentioned.... not the op. http://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/general/want-to-able-to-install-ota-updates-t3163745
I dont use mobile Q as I use Linux and they don't have a linux version. I use 3rd party roms such as AICP with the ARDE non OC rom. TWRP puts a log in /tmp...did you look at what the error message says? OTA updates will NOT apply if you have updated system files such as build.prop. Thats all I can tell you because I can't try what you are using.
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I haven't updated the build.prop, I doubt the OP has either.
'There is no greater software version available to upgrade your phone,actual version of your phone is the latest'
Hehe! Only thing that would make this funnier is if they misspelled 'version'. At least I can derive some amusement from that message and their ****ty, convoluted website.
Shame you can't help on that front, but maybe you can at least guide me on what should be normal flow of this procedure.
When one does OTA update unrooted (but with custom recovery), at the point that the phone reboots, it should not (in theory) boot into TWRP right? I would think just continue with update, and maybe that's why I would need to remove TWRP in favor of stock recovery.
It would be easier to attack it from that angle as opposed to their crappy win32 program. which they probably didn't pay the GoDaddy bill on.:laugh:
I don't even know why I'm bothering as it's just a backup phone now. I just find it ridiculous that I can get their last measly update either from Q or from device (ostensibly so long as custom recovery remains). Holy bejebus, updating Shamu is so painless (6.0.1)
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likely they have not updated their server side to to UEN0 from UEA2 for their craptacular tool which would explain that problem.
Curious, did you lose Band 12 with UEN0. I haven't heard anything positive from this most recent update that is giving me a headache to get to. Perhaps it's for naught. They don't even have a changelog do they. Meh... I'm going to forget about it until something notable comes along or maybe even just sell this thing while I might still get over a hundred.

tekka-maki said:
I haven't updated the build.prop, I doubt the OP has either.
'There is no greater software version available to upgrade your phone,actual version of your phone is the latest'
Hehe! Only thing that would make this funnier is if they misspelled 'version'. At least I can derive some amusement from that message and their ****ty, convoluted website.
Shame you can't help on that front, but maybe you can at least guide me on what should be normal flow of this procedure.
When one does OTA update unrooted (but with custom recovery), at the point that the phone reboots, it should not (in theory) boot into TWRP right? I would think just continue with update, and maybe that's why I would need to remove TWRP in favor of stock recovery.
It would be easier to attack it from that angle as opposed to their crappy win32 program. which they probably didn't pay the GoDaddy bill on.:laugh:
I don't even know why I'm bothering as it's just a backup phone now. I just find it ridiculous that I can get their last measly update either from Q or from device (ostensibly so long as custom recovery remains). Holy bejebus, updating Shamu is so painless (6.0.1)
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likely they have not updated their server side to to UEN0 from UEA2 for their craptacular tool which would explain that problem.
Curious, did you lose Band 12 with UEN0. I haven't heard anything positive from this most recent update that is giving me a headache to get to. Perhaps it's for naught. They don't even have a changelog do they. Meh... I'm going to forget about it until something notable comes along or maybe even just sell this thing while I might still get over a hundred.
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As I mentioned here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64967202&postcount=4 you CAN install an OTA update with twrp...it will install it just fine however at the completion of the update you will no longer HAVE twrp installed because it will have been overwritten with stock recovery. (it does that at the END) This will be apparent the NEXT time you try to load recovery. Where do you imagine the update is processed? It's processed by the recovery app...it can't be done inside the rom because files would be in use. The last version I ever ran was UER0..was not even aware UEN0 was out. As I indicated, I switched to a rom based on cyanogenmod with some features I wanted...if I was going to switch NOW I'd choose blisspop and it's the one I intend to install the next time I have to do a reinstall. I don't see why you fight on 5.02 when 5.1.1 is available in various flavors and with the ARDE NON OC Kernel is rock steady. If you made full backups of your device (ie dd images of ALL partitions using the Backupall bat file or shell script running around the forum restoring to a previous radio is as simple as reflashing the partition using fastboot commands.
The radio is stored in the "modem" partition fyi.

famewolf said:
As I mentioned here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64967202&postcount=4 you CAN install an OTA update with twrp...it will install it just fine however at the completion of the update you will no longer HAVE twrp installed because it will have been overwritten with stock recovery. (it does that at the END) This will be apparent the NEXT time you try to load recovery. Where do you imagine the update is processed? It's processed by the recovery app...it can't be done inside the rom because files would be in use. The last version I ever ran was UER0..was not even aware UEN0 was out. As I indicated, I switched to a rom based on cyanogenmod with some features I wanted...if I was going to switch NOW I'd choose blisspop and it's the one I intend to install the next time I have to do a reinstall. I don't see why you fight on 5.02 when 5.1.1 is available in various flavors and with the ARDE NON OC Kernel is rock steady. If you made full backups of your device (ie dd images of ALL partitions using the Backupall bat file or shell script running around the forum restoring to a previous radio is as simple as reflashing the partition using fastboot commands.
The radio is stored in the "modem" partition fyi.
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So where is the latest update to flash with twrp (good dry run for me should a decent upgrade come out that isn't UEN0)? I just went with UER0 posted on yer thread thr with all the megaupload firmwares & flash restored system & boot (after full wipe); as an aside, it took, & I still have TWRP in tact. I'm well aware of your fastboot method & orig backup of ALL partitions. Seemed like a waste of space at the time, still kinda does.
Regarding your rhetorical question, I was referencing Alcatel's w32 Q tool. It seemingly wasn't updated to be keyed in on the latest update either. No wait, it said the same 'no greater version' crap even when I restored the original 6045i US system/boot fw from twrp, lmao

tekka-maki said:
So where is the latest update to flash with twrp (good dry run for me should a decent upgrade come out that isn't UEN0)? I just went with UER0 posted on yer thread thr with all the megaupload firmwares & flash restored system & boot (after full wipe); as an aside, it took, & I still have TWRP in tact. I'm well aware of your fastboot method & orig backup of ALL partitions. Seemed like a waste of space at the time, still kinda does.
Regarding your rhetorical question, I was referencing Alcatel's w32 Q tool. It seemingly wasn't updated to be keyed in on the latest update either. No wait, it said the same 'no greater version' crap even when I restored the original 6045i US system/boot fw from twrp, lmao
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Why are you assuming I should know where the latest and greatest update for stock should be? Updates are customized based on the rom version you are running at the time you submit a request. I've already stated I'm using a 3rd party rom and using an OS that doesn't allow me to run their software. You consider my recommendations a waste of time so I'll quit making them and continue using my perfectly working device on 5.1.1.

famewolf said:
Why are you assuming I should know where the latest and greatest update for stock should be? Updates are customized based on the rom version you are running at the time you submit a request. I've already stated I'm using a 3rd party rom and using an OS that doesn't allow me to run their software. You consider my recommendations a waste of time so I'll quit making them and continue using my perfectly working device on 5.1.1.
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Omfg buddy, you said, '... you CAN install an OTA update with twrp' ; all I did was point out that I flashed previous updates (presumably the same way you're talking about), TWRP remained in tact afterward, & asked you to follow through with that point with, you know, the actual update in question here that defies many of your assertions. One of your recommendations is broken (Q), the other is hindsight (full backup) & last (update via TWRP) seemingly not feasible (unless someone were to submit updated /system) . Anyway it's all a moot point now since we're just measuring our junk.
I'm tickled you're running 5.1.1, as you've said repeatedly... I tried it briefly on Shamu & was happy to leave the LP quagmire all together & get to 6.0.1. Sufficed to say, there isn't anything perfect about this device or 5.1.1, which is why I'll leave as is & sell it. :good:
Thanks anyway.

unlocking Mi4c

hi all.
like so many others, Xiaomi forced update 6.1.14 on to my phone which locked the bootloader. i even thought i had stopped the phone from auto updating, but it seems i was wrong. since then, i have been put on to the latest 2 updates. i want to get off of the rom i am on but cant do anything now with the phone in the installing rom dept because regardless of whether i try to use the 'Updater' to put a Chinese dev rom on the phone or any other rom, or if i rename a rom and put it on the root of the phone, i cannot update. i always get a message saying Unable to verify rom and the phone simply stops. when trying to go into recovery mode, as i am unable to get to TWRP, i have even been locked out of that. i applied for an unlock code, but haven't received anything and with Chinese New Year fast approaching, bringing a holiday, i can see Xiaomu ignoring those who asked for a code even longer than they have. i haven't read of a single person being sent the code at all, which is very bad on Xiaomi's part.
i was really pleased with this phone. it worked well for me and did all i wanted but now i have a door stop, to all intents and purpose. such a shame as the way things have gone, i wont be buying from them again.
does anyone have any solution to this problem?
many TIA,
Prettygrim

Download stable ROM - http://bigota.d.miui.com/V7.0.16.0.LXKCNCI/miui_MI4c_V7.0.16.0.LXKCNCI_cba5b6c4a8_5.1.zip
Update your phone to that ROM
You will lost all data and setting (/sdcard is safe)
Bootloader unlocked
Flash CM13

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Download stable ROM - http://bigota.d.miui.com/V7.0.16.0.LXKCNCI/miui_MI4c_V7.0.16.0.LXKCNCI_cba5b6c4a8_5.1.zip
Update your phone to that ROM
You will lost all data and setting (/sdcard is safe)
Bootloader unlocked
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And stay away from dev ROMs unless you have an unlock code.

hi and tnx for the replies.
to cowithgun:
unfortunately, i cannot update to that or any other rom, as i stated above. trying to do so via the 'Updater' and all i get is 'Unable to verify rom', that is after being told i must connect to the WLAN. the speed of that is almost non-existent.
if i try to do so by putting the rom in the root of the drive, renaming it 'update.zip' i again get told 'unable to verify rom'. because of the failure to be able to do anything 'conventional' was the reason i asked for help. i have even tried Kingroot and Kingoroot but both have failed.
to qtotter:
one of the methods i was asked to try was to try to use a Chinese dev rom, but i cant even get one of those on the phone (my wife is Chinese, so no language issues).
with the upcoming Chinese New Year, i can see Xiaomi using that as an excuse to delay giving out unlock codes, if it intends doing so at all. i am extremely p****d off at what they have done and in my case, they have turned a phone that i really liked into half a phone. such i stupid stunt to pull when the 'unlocked' was a feature used to actually make the phone a more attractive sale. really disappointed
should have asked guys, what method would you suggest i try to get this rom, (if the blasted phone doesn't give me the same message as before about cant verify it) installed on the phone? bear in mind i have no official recovery and obviously no TWRP.
TIA

Prettygrim said:
hi and tnx for the replies.
to cowithgun:
unfortunately, i cannot update to that or any other rom, as i stated above. trying to do so via the 'Updater' and all i get is 'Unable to verify rom', that is after being told i must connect to the WLAN. the speed of that is almost non-existent.
if i try to do so by putting the rom in the root of the drive, renaming it 'update.zip' i again get told 'unable to verify rom'. because of the failure to be able to do anything 'conventional' was the reason i asked for help. i have even tried Kingroot and Kingoroot but both have failed.
to qtotter:
one of the methods i was asked to try was to try to use a Chinese dev rom, but i cant even get one of those on the phone (my wife is Chinese, so no language issues).
with the upcoming Chinese New Year, i can see Xiaomi using that as an excuse to delay giving out unlock codes, if it intends doing so at all. i am extremely p****d off at what they have done and in my case, they have turned a phone that i really liked into half a phone. such i stupid stunt to pull when the 'unlocked' was a feature used to actually make the phone a more attractive sale. really disappointed
should have asked guys, what method would you suggest i try to get this rom, (if the blasted phone doesn't give me the same message as before about cant verify it) installed on the phone? bear in mind i have no official recovery and obviously no TWRP.
TIA
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I tested it myself, it should work. More precisely, I did this:
1. Download this into your computer: http://bigota.d.miui.com/V7.0.16.0.LXKCNCI/miui_MI4c_V7.0.16.0.LXKCNCI_cba5b6c4a8_5.1.zip
2. Connect phone to computer via USB, copy the zip into your phone, say /sdcard/downloaded_rom/miui_MI4c_V7.0.16.0.LXKCNCI_cba5b6c4a8_5.1.zip
3. Start Updater, press the "..." on upper right and select "Choose update package", select the ROM.
4. Installing older developer ROM will causes the error you mentioned, but if you have 6.1.14, installing stable 7.0.16 is OK and tested working. Not sure what is changed but if it still wont work, try the latest 7.1.6 stable instead.
5. It will warn you of losing setting. Please YES.
6. When it's done, you will have a MIUI ROM but bootloader no longer lock.
7. Install CM13 as soon as you can!

Sounds like the problem is your recovery. You said you have no official recovery.
Sent from my Mi-4c using Tapatalk

just tried it and no luck, i'm afraid. still getting the message 'Cant verify update'. also tried moving the file to root of phone, renaming it to 'update.zip' and still no luck, still getting the same message. it seems that the phone is well and truly locked down so it wont even take one of Xiaomi's own official updates, unless it is a progression from the present rom. that in my view is well over the top!!
tnx for trying and if you or anyone has another idea, please let me know. it appears that the thing to turn off is the verification of the rom. is that possible, and if so, how?
one thing i have noticed in the settings -->developer options is 'verify apps over USB. could this be anything to do with the rom verification failure? the txt for that is greyed out with the button on (redish) but i cant see how to change the setting. worth a try maybe? anyone know how to change it?

Ulver said:
Sounds like the problem is your recovery. You said you have no official recovery.
Sent from my Mi-4c using Tapatalk
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you may well be right, but if that's the case, it was done by Xiaomi. is there a way of getting it to work? how do i actually check it isn't working? as stated before, when 'booting into recovery', i get an image of the phone on screen with the USB cable either connected or disconnected, depending on the actual state and nothing else happens. i have to do a reboot holding the start button to achieve this

Prettygrim said:
bear in mind i have no official recovery and obviously no TWRP.
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I'm still waiting for my mi4c to come from China, and this is the reason why I'm gonna flash the latest (unlocked) official "stable" ROM first only to update the recovery and radio partitions right after I receive the phone. Resellers in China sometimes put their custom ROMs, recovery images or malware in the phones.
I don't think I'd flash twrp right away. I'd install cm12.1 or cm13 by "fastboot boot recovery.img" leaving the official recovery left in the phone so that I could go back to the official ROMs in the official way, and confirm if everything works as expected before flashing twrp.
What I don't understand is why people flash the dev (locked) ROMs as they are downloaded. What they need is just boot.img and /system, isn't it?? I'd replace "firmware-update" folder, where bootloader, radio and recovery images are located, in the dev ROM with the one from the stable ROM if I wanna try dev ROMs. Or I'd replace boot.img and system.* in the stable ROM with the ones in the dev ROM. Those modded ROMs should be able to be flashed with twrp...

the main reason for using the Chinese dev roms is because they are supposed to bee already rooted. once any of these roms is on the phone, according to what else i read, any rom going over the top would keep root. personally, i didn't find any rom that had root already and had to root my phone, following instructions i found on the MIUI and other sites. the built in recovery on my phone does nothing.
i had issues with TWRP when first using it, but put that down to being a novice. i found the files needed and the procedure to get out of the constant TWRP loop, which meant the phone was basically soft bricked and all was good. however, even that method fails now with the message something like 'phone is locked, cannot continue.
i have put an official complaint into Xiaomi about the bootloader locking and also about the time being taken to issue unlock codes, which is much longer than 3-21 days in some cases.
if i get anywhere, i'll post what i'm told

Since the latest miui ROMs are all based on Android 5.1.1, it's really easy to root mi4c yourself even on official standard ROMs. You don't have to flash dev ROMs or flash custom recovery like twrp. You can just run twrp on the fly like "fastboot boot twrp.img" to flash SuperSU.zip as long as bootloader is unlocked.
I'd say it's more dangerous to flash dev ROMs only for rooting especially if it's for your wife, not for yourself... Dev ROMs are for people who want to try new functions and designs still under development.
Anyway, I hope you will get an unlock SMS from xiaomi soon!

Had same Problem
search for miui_MI4c_V7.1.6.0.LXKCNCK_1debc127a9_5.1.zip
Hope it helps

So if the bootloader is locked, you can unlock it by flashing an older dev rom?

ermacwins said:
So if the bootloader is locked, you can unlock it by flashing an older dev rom?
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No. Older Developer ROM will not work. Updater will refuse to update it. I tested a few of them back then, only by flashing the latest stable ROM back then (7.0.16) work.

cowithgun said:
No. Older Developer ROM will not work. Updater will refuse to update it. I tested a few of them back then, only by flashing the latest stable ROM back then (7.0.16) work.
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And now flash the lastest developer and try roll back one o two a time (this work for my with the original recovery) and later use one rom from xiaomi.eu that one has not locked bootloader .
Sorry for my bad english.

i'm probably being real thick here guys. please bear with me. i am, as i said before, new to all this stuff with phones.
remember too that i have an unlocked bootloader now, courtesy of Xiaomi.
so, just to be clear, i am using miui_MI4c_5.12.31_5d6537a0b8_5.1.zip. to remove the possibility of Xiaomi doing something else to the phone that i dont want, i would like to get on to the xiaomi.eu_multi_libra roms. how do i go about doing this in idiot-proof steps, please? also, if i manage to achieve what i want, how do i stop the phone taking official updates? there must be a setting in the phone somewhere that can be disabled and prevent it updating to what i dont want. i found the one in the 'updater settings' but am of the opinion there is another somewhere that i cant find.
hope someone will be gentle with me
TIA

If you're already on Xiaomi.EU ROMs, you won't get OTA updates directly from Xiaomi that will lock your bootloader.
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i am on
miui_MI4c_5.12.31_5d6537a0b8_5.1.zip
which is an official rom, i believe. hence the questions in my former posts. i want to get on to the libre eu roms but am unsure how to go about it. i have read about using various roms first but i believe doing so is under certain circumstances, ie, bootloader locked, phone not rooted. my phone has the bootloader unlocked now by Xiaomi and i have rooted the phone. this is where my confusion comes in that i was hoping someone could clarify

You have unlock permission from xiaomi now, which means you don't need to worry about updates. You can unlock your phone again anytime you want. It's not one time only thing.

well that's a relief! tnx, qtotter! i didn't want to have to go through all this again, just because the maker decided i hadn't actually bought the phone, i had just bought permission to use it, as long as it was how he wanted me to use it!
bloody USA judge who decided that must have been paid a small fortune to rule in favour of this! just what the entertainment industries and others wanted!! didn't care what the implications were or ow the industries would take the p**s out of customers!!

Bootloader Unlocking through Downgrade possible?

Hello Guys,
i had bought an Huawei P20 about an year ago. Now you know with all of this "USA-Huawei" Trouble going on, the thought came to my mind that i better start unlocking bootloader and be prepared to flash custom rom if worst come to worst. so far, so good.
now i started looking around if there is an easy method of getting the bootloader unlocked. but oh my, the huawei company is very friendly to us users and say "no, you wont get any unlock code from us anymore". so screw that.
now i want to try some experimental stuff. it looks like this:
my Smartphone has currently the version EML-L29 8.1.0.168(C432). I bought some Credits (i think it is that thing for $4) from DC-Unlocker. Yeah yeah i know, there they say "no support for Huawei P20!!!". But i still want to try. Well i tried, but it doesnt work - what you should expect.
now i read from some other website that there is another way of unlocking it. i only read it diagonal but the one thing i read was the information "unlocking bootloader is only possible till firmware version june 2018". so i jumped to an maaybe interesting conclusion about unlocking the phone with DC-Unlocker or HCU (whatever, i guess maybe both use the same method anyway).
if i do an rollback to the old firmware version *before* June 2018 on the device, wouldnt it be possible to do the unlock? Because the security patches that preventing it unlocked arent on the device then.
So what i have done so far is loading the old firmware version 8.1.0.128(C432). But the source is saying that it is coming from "Asia" but in the next line it reads "Asia, Europe" etc. - do they mean that this version is universal or do i run in trouble if i install one that is having the wrong area?
the next thing that kinda baffles me... all guides are sayin "copy the extracted dload folder to your sd-card". even the p20 guides do that. but.. well you know, the p20 device doesnt even have sd-card support. so how are you intended to use it then? i wonder about that a bit.
i dont think that without unlocked bootloader, flashing an original OTA full update would be impossible. but im not really sure how. there is this shady menu you can reach if you call this strange numbercode. but im very unsure if that will really work out. the phone (it is still a phone without SD-Card-Support) even has the option "apply update from sd-card". so im wondering how this feature they implemented in the original software is intended to use at all. maybe i should push the dload folder on the internal storage? i dunno.
i read about another possibilty of flashing stock roms. they say you can do it per adb command. so no problems would be here, i have adb and the hisuite and all already set. but i have absolutely no idea if that is possible without unlocked bootloader. so the questions arose from my mind are those:
- does an stock rom image from possibly/maybe asia would do any harm to my device like it is getting unbootable or anything like that?
- is it possible to flash an image older android stock rom with methods like this special menu on the device or the adb load?
- do you all think that my plan of downgrading the phone in order to get the bootloader code would work?
i'm looking very forward to your answers )

no_monday said:
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No. Sorry. There's no solution. Reason: It would appear in this forum within minutes and thousands of people would be happy to unlock their bootloaders. Many Huawei-Owners here on XDA invested a lot of brain power to find a way. Noone succeeded. No bootloader code, no unlock.
If you still want to play around with firmwares, please inform us about any progress.

Jan Philipp said:
No. Sorry. There's no solution. Reason: It would appear in this forum within minutes and thousands of people would be happy to unlock their bootloaders. Many Huawei-Owners here on XDA invested a lot of brain power to find a way. Noone succeeded. No bootloader code, no unlock.
If you still want to play around with firmwares, please inform us about any progress.
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okay so there are basically no real information. look, i dont expect anyone to say like "oh there is an easy method xy" because i know it doesnt exist on this moment in time.
however i made an percent of an progress, it is more a thing for other interested custom rom modders out there.
i downloaded this update.zip and there are all kinds of howtos on the internet about it. the one thing i did is basically create the dload folder. then i put the extracted update.app in there. i rebooted the phone with power, vol down + vol up. i released the power button after the vibrating. the flashing screen indeed appeared! but something very strange has happened and i have no explanation what have happend.
so the emui updater appeared. there was this emui logo in the middle, the circle building up around it. but then it stopped at 5%. i really got panicked that im about to brick my device. so in an mad attempt i wanted to stop the update and power off the phone. glad i didnt do it. the phone always said if i tried to press the power button long enough "the system will crash if it is powered down". i stopped - but i tried it serveral times to stop.
now the strange thing is.. it stuck relatively long on this screen. but after a while (i guess it was 5-6 minutes) it suddenly got dark. and the battery was at 100%, so it wasnt a faulty battery. i just wondered. the phone - other than i would expect - rebooted. after a short while of the logo flashing (for about an half minute) it finally started. first i didnt have any connect to GSM Network. but after a short while that was okay too. all apps are still there. i looked at "about" and the version is still the same as before.
do someone have any imagination what has happened there? so apparently the phone *does* try to install something on this method, but the method seemed to fail. or is there any knowledge out yet for update logs that are getting generated by this process? i try to find any hint in order to tackle this problem atm.
and one thing is still on my mind.. could it be that the update is already through and i just didnt realized it yet because these other custom files werent changed? i mean that could be an possibility to say the least. anyway, i will try to use hcu now if maybe sth has changed. and i give kingoroot as well a shot if this buddy finds everything about rooting the device. maybe with root rights through exploit i can get further.

no_monday said:
okay so there are basically no real information. look, i dont expect anyone to say like "oh there is an easy method xy" because i know it doesnt exist on this moment in time.
however i made an percent of an progress, it is more a thing for other interested custom rom modders out there.
i downloaded this update.zip and there are all kinds of howtos on the internet about it. the one thing i did is basically create the dload folder. then i put the extracted update.app in there. i rebooted the phone with power, vol down + vol up. i released the power button after the vibrating. the flashing screen indeed appeared! but something very strange has happened and i have no explanation what have happend.
so the emui updater appeared. there was this emui logo in the middle, the circle building up around it. but then it stopped at 5%. i really got panicked that im about to brick my device. so in an mad attempt i wanted to stop the update and power off the phone. glad i didnt do it. the phone always said if i tried to press the power button long enough "the system will crash if it is powered down". i stopped - but i tried it serveral times to stop.
now the strange thing is.. it stuck relatively long on this screen. but after a while (i guess it was 5-6 minutes) it suddenly got dark. and the battery was at 100%, so it wasnt a faulty battery. i just wondered. the phone - other than i would expect - rebooted. after a short while of the logo flashing (for about an half minute) it finally started. first i didnt have any connect to GSM Network. but after a short while that was okay too. all apps are still there. i looked at "about" and the version is still the same as before.
do someone have any imagination what has happened there? so apparently the phone *does* try to install something on this method, but the method seemed to fail. or is there any knowledge out yet for update logs that are getting generated by this process? i try to find any hint in order to tackle this problem atm.
and one thing is still on my mind.. could it be that the update is already through and i just didnt realized it yet because these other custom files werent changed? i mean that could be an possibility to say the least. anyway, i will try to use hcu now if maybe sth has changed. and i give kingoroot as well a shot if this buddy finds everything about rooting the device. maybe with root rights through exploit i can get further.
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It seems you have a couple of questions, pal, I answered to the first one (Bootloader Unlocking through Downgrade possible?). All I said is that it's impossible to unlock the bootloader through a downgrade. If you read all the how-to's you should have noticed that FirmwareFinder doesn'st work anymore since EMUI 9.0. This Information simply means Huawei doesn't allow us to flash updates on our own anymore like we did before. For sure there are some guides how to rollback to Android 8 but even this changes nothing to the bootloader.
Sadly I have no answer to the other questions about the strange behavior, it sounds pretty odd. Never heared something like this. But good luck fixing your phone anyway.

well i found out a couple of things now.
first thing: you know the service menu when you try to apply a zip archive from sd card? well you wont be able to use it UNTIL you use an usb-otg cable and an exFat formatted USB-Stick. Next thing to know is, you have to use the right images. there seem to be an kind of rule how this images are supposed to be and the image i found was from an russian firmware download site it was linked here in the forum in a thread. so i did choose "apply zip from sdcard" and .. IT DOES! the device rebooted, the stick flashed and the flashing process occured! and guys, im back to Version EML-L29 8.1.0.128(C432)! it is clearly stated in the build version view in settings. so.. i guess you *can* roll back even without firmware updater.
so far so good. but lets get back to the problem with the Bootloader. sadly Jan Philipp was totally right.. the bootloader cant be unlocked even in this version with the security patch of 5. may 2018. that is kinda sad. even kingoroot is still no different from before. i guess i have to search now for an way to get the system rooted. however, it must be easier on an earlier security update stage like now instead of the future versions of emui 8.1.
edit: another strange thing i discovered so far is that after this restore.. the play store wasnt able to connect to the google server until i gave permission to a few google processes to calendar and file access (i wonder what that is all about). maybe it has something to do with incompatibilities in the rom versions but now it works just fine as it should).

"unlocking bootloader with exploit is only possible till firmware version june/july 2018" does not apply to 2018's devices with kirin970, kirin980 & kirin710.
You are with kirin970.
So to unlock your kirin970, the only way for now is to wait for 3rd party seller to hypotheticaly start back their dervice:
- In the last 6 months there was only 2 'windows' which lasted 3 or 4 days where you could order your bootloader's unlock code by imei (from 5 to 124 us$).

GuestD0711 said:
another strange thing i discovered so far is that after this restore.. the play store wasnt able to connect to the google server until i gave permission to a few google processes to calendar and file access (i wonder what that is all about). maybe it has something to do with incompatibilities in the rom versions but now it works just fine as it should).
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Google Play services require all permissions, otherwise won't work.
I also been searching on how to unlock the bootloader and found no solution or hope. I guess we are stuck with EMUI forever.

Reply from Huawei:
You can roll back to earlier versions of EMUI software, but you have to roll back one version at a time. However, our earlier phones operate exclusively on Google Mobile Services so removing it would limit the functionality extremely, however, we do have a range of new devices that no longer rely on Google Mobile Services and use Huawei Mobile Services instead - such as our P40 series.
Here are the instructions for rolling back software:
[Rollback Guideline] EMUI 9.1 (Android 9) Rollback to EMUI 9.0 (Android 9) Operation Instruction
EMUI 9.1 (Android 9) can now be rolled back to the official version of EMUI 9.0 (Android 9) using HiSuite, without downloading any intermediate packages. To ensure that the rollback succeeds, read the instructions carefully and perform the steps as instructed.
1. The following are precautions for roll-back.
a. Rolling back to an earlier version will erase all data on your device. Use an SD card, computer, or Cloud storage to back up all important data before rolling back your phone, and make sure all backed up content is complete and effective.
b. Use a computer running a Windows operating system to visit http://consumer.huawei.com/minisite/HiSuite_en/index.html and download the latest version of HiSuite. If HiSuite is installed on your computer, click the version number in the lower left corner of the page to check if it is the latest version. Make sure HiSuite version is 9.1.0.303 _OVE or above.
c. Before rolling back the phone, make sure your phone has not been upgraded using non-official updates. Otherwise, the roll-back may fail and unknown issues may be introduced. If you have used non-official packages to upgrade your phone, it is recommended that you go to an after-sales service center to roll back your phone.
d. Before rolling back your phone, make sure that your phone system has not been unlocked or rooted. If the system has been unlocked or rooted, it is recommended that you go to an after-sales service center to roll back your phone.
e. Before the roll-back, restore the phone to factory settings to make sure there is enough storage space.
f. Make sure the battery level is more than 50%.

Hi All,
I need assistance to update my EML L29 Huawei P20 phone.
The phone is Locked and FRP Lock
Issue the phone is always booting into recovery mode and not into the main screen.
I tired flashing via CMD using twrp.img file but its not writing.
Need help

Resolved - L29C567B190->Build NRD90M Test-keys-> DLOAD fix fails -> Now Boot Looping

Resolved - L29C567B190->Build NRD90M Test-keys-> DLOAD fix fails -> Now Boot Looping
I've been working on the path to have my Mate 9 unlocked, rebranded, and to Pie.
I followed this guide. Not sure why, but I ended up with this:
TWRP Recovery (expected thisi)
Not upgraded to Oreo (unexpected)
Build: NRD90M Test-keys (unexpected and problematic)
I've read that I need to re-install the MHA-L29C567B190 again.
So, I attempted 2-3 times with different downloaded (supposedly MHA-L29C567B190) firmwares to just use TWRP to upgrade. All failed. So, I decided to put a DLOAD directory with the files required onto my SD card and upgrade from the Project Menu.
Of course, I had to reinstall the default recovery to do that. I did that using fastboot.
So at this point, I'm thinking I can do the reinstall of MHA-L29C567B190. So, I did this:
Launched Project Menu (*#*#2846579#*#*)
Select 4. Software Update
1. SDCard Upgrade
Phone restarts and starts the upgrade
I get this message
Software install failed!
Incompatibility with current version. Please download the correct update package.
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So I presume I get that error because NRD90M Test-keys doesn't even have any compatible versions. I am certain I downloaded the files for MHA-L29C567B190.
Anyone have any suggestions how I can reinstall the Nouget MHA-L29C567B190 over NRD90M Test-keys?
If I can get that fixed, I can struggle again with rebranding.
Any help appreciated.

So, I went out and studied the rebrand instructions, and finally found that I misspelled the HWOTA directory on the SD Card. So I ran that again.
This time it appeared to be working on the install of the 432 software at the end of the process. But it failed for some reason.
Now I'm in a boot loop. My very first. Should I celebrate my first?
So, now on a search to find how to get out of the boot loop. I've tried the various options I do have from the boots into recovery. Exact naming of process I list below may not be accurate, but you'll probably get the idea:
Tried the option to download latest version and image...failed
Tried doing a factory reset...failed
Tried following the rebrand process once more. same results.

Update on attempt to fix bootloop...
I followed this article to repair. I downloaded a fresh c567b190 file, and copied the update.app into dload. Did a force install per the instructions...it failed.
I had another one from a different download site. It failed.
I tried a 432 file from what I was trying to rebrand to. It failed. I do find it interesting that supposedly same files downloaded from different sites are different sizes. As well, some instructions say to only copy update.app to dload, and others say to copy entire set of files/folders that are in the file that update.app is in.
Beginning to worry this phone is toast.
I'm going to search out other 'remedies'.
[EDIT]
I'm pretty sure that the build showing as NRD90M is causing my problems. I suspect the bootloader is checking against the version and "nothing is compatible" with it. So being in a bootloop with the additional problem of wrong build identification is making this difficult.

I don't know if anyone after weekend will see this and/or have any suggestions, but I'll keep updating as I learn things or stumble onto new obstacles.
I do have some success to express.
I used this thread and it got me booted, into Oreo, and a good build.
BUT...(as always)
The instructions on that thread are to unbrick, and install the rebrand files at the same time. However, during the TWRP Install process (after getting Oreo 8.0.0.046(0409) installed. It was supposed to boot into TWRP after installing it, and do that update.
But, yet another error: during TWRP install attempt, got an error about partition size (don't recall if it was too long or short or what. If anyone needs to know to help me get past this I can run it again).
So, the batch file was waiting at a prompt for me to load TWRP so it could continue. But no TWRP. So I found a TWRP for Oreo, and installed it. I then hit the ENTER key for it to continue, but it didn't.
I loaded Firmware Finder on the phone, and it found nothing to work with it. I have no idea what Oreo 8.0.0.046(0409) is even for, or what region it would be from. Can't find it even with Google.
So, here's what I need help with
What's the best way to get to MHA-L29 C432(Europe). Would it be as simple as adding my l29 model in FF, downloading c432, and installing via TWRP? Another way better?
I think I'm off of the keyboards and phone for a while. It's been quite a chase.
Hopefully I'll get some feedback early next week on how to progress.

u need find oem with hw eu region with l29, then phone can accept update

kikson112 said:
u need find oem with hw eu region with l29, then phone can accept update
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I as thinking I had the right firmware, MHA-L29C432B194. But as I think about it, I didn't get that from FF. When I add a model of MHA-L29C432B194 in FF, and search, I find it, but I'm not sure which one I need. I understand I need FullOTA-MF-PV for dload. What is there is FULLOTA-MF, and OTA-MF . I suspect it depends on which method of install I use.
I"m thinking about trying booting to TWRP, and 'install' the ZIPS for the firmware. But I haven't seen confirmation that will work. I don't want to end up in another bootloop.

at the end what u want to do ? tell me ?

kikson112 said:
u need find oem with hw eu region with l29, then phone can accept update
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kikson112 said:
at the end what u want to do ? tell me ?
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I have fixed the bootloop problem from a search that I found a tutorial. The problem now is that it left me on an Orea that oeminfo (cust) is lost. It's not recognized as a valid rom.
I have another thread that has migrated to this topic. I think someone there is gathering tools for me.
I apparently need to downgrade to Nouget, and start over my efforts to migrate to c432, which then will auto upgrade me to Pie. Problem so far at this point is finding a good HWOTA8 file. All searches I find that have links are dead links.

if someone gather it let him work. give me what exacly rom u need, full name

Sorry. I am not getting the email notifications of updates. Apparently sometime in the past, I opened a different account here with my current email. It won't let me update my email address here as it is used in that other account. I've tried the Forgot password thing, but the reCAPTCHA just circles and circles and never lets me make the request.
Back on topic: I got it all worked out. I had another thread on topic of the beginning of my process that was pretty much done. But conversation struck back up, and it continued on to a fix for this problem. It's a bit lengthy, and I learned a lot there, thanks to @zgfg.
If anyone wants to see how this was resolved, you can start at Post # 60 at this thread.
Thanks folks for your input here.