This is about active stylus, other than the included S-Pen stylus, not fully working on the Note 9, when it is covered with a screen protector.
I have a Note 9. I have tried a common screen protectors: Ishieldz, curved tempered glass screen protector. The protector works fine with finger input and with S-Pen input. However, functionality problems arise when using input from third party active stylus, and with passive rubber or metal-fabric stylus. The active stylus used were: Adonit #2 and #3 active stylus; passive stylus Retrak metal-fabric tipped, and common rubber tipped stylus.
Note, that screen protector works fine with the S-Pen active stylus, and fingers (which have large surface area for electrical capacitance conductivity).
Note, all those same styluses and similarly branded screen protector work perfectly together on my Samsung Galaxy S8+.
I suspect the problem arises uniquely on the Note 9 because (I believe) it uses an extra special glass substrate which exists to receive electrical input from the active S-Pen stylus. I suspect this substrate results in extra thickness and thus reduced sensitive for stylus other than the S-pen.
I have increased the sensitivity of the screen input using the Settings in Samsung/Android. The increased sensitivity toggle does help but is not sufficient.
The problem is most pronounced when entering keyboard input through a swipe type keyboard, like GBoard or Samsung Keyboard. The output is that about 5% of the keys are missed, resulting in numerous spelling mistakes.
As such, I have abandoned using any screen protectors on my Note 9. This is only recommended for users who want to use third party styluses with the Note 9.
Doesn't Samsung use Wacom technology in their styluses? Did you try Microsoft Surface stylus?
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Hello,
Until this morning I was using the screen protector that came with my Pro. And I don't mean the bundled protector you can apply yourself, but the one that comes applied while shipping lol.
But I did that because I know protectors are very very hard to put on without bubbles and dust, and it was indeed hard, I spend around 40 minutes to apply it.
The protector I'm using now is a Brando one, which I think it's excellent, from all the people who saw my phone today there wasn't a single one who noticed the protector.
Anyway, what I wanted to ask is that this only protects the screen itself, so the bottom touch panel is unprotected. Should I leave it like this? If not, what are my options?
One thing I noticed is that when I removed the original protector from the panel, I can finally use camera focus, so even if I use some kind of protection, I will probably need a hole for the center button.
The main reason I'm asking is because I read here some people saying the home and back buttons are peeling off, and I definitely don't want that to happen.
Oh, and no, using cases or any kind of outer protection is not an option. Phones are made to be pocket devices.
Thanks.
I have the zagg shield on and it covers the entire bottom plate plus the center button. Feels great and dont even know its there, no problem with the capacitive touch. Only problem is its on the expensive side, and the screen protector part is useless
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I have used many protectors over many phones. The Boxwave (there are two, I prefer the non-Anti-Glare one) is the most scratch-resistant I have used. For the Fuze (Touch Pro) it comes with the piece for the bottom (with a hole). I notice no degradation in sensitivity of the scroll wheel to zoom in Opera or to actually scroll in other apps. I wish it came with a piece for over the camera port, but that may not work on the brushed aluminum trim that is there.
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Hi,
So far I've been through two keyboard cases for my Galaxy Note. The last one I just got today was great until I tried using the S-pen while the case was on. There are certain regions where there a magnet in the case causes the S-pen to become unpredictable. I'm kind of surprised as this case was designed specifically for the Note 10.1, but it's as if it was never tested.
I have searched online and can't seem to find a bluetooth keyboard book/folio type case for the Note that is magnet free. Can anyone provide any useful product suggestions for me?
As an update, I was able to narrow down the problem to two specific offending magnets in the case. Interestingly enough in those areas the material was thin enough that I could scratch away at it with a scissor and pluck out the two small circular disc magnets. Later on I suppose I could cover up the "surgery" spots with some velcro, but the location is not too conspicuous and now the spen is working appropriately. Problem solved!
Just thought I'd drop a note here on the Note 8.0 forum about the Microsoft Wedge Bluetooth Keyboard. I've been using the ThinkOutside foldable bluetooth keyboard with the Note 8, and it's outstanding for its pocketable portability. However, it is also hard to find a new one in case it should break, and since it's a little fragile I'm reluctant to continually leave it on the table for everyone in the family to use, so I got the Microsoft Wedge keyboard as an alternative. My frame of comparison, as far as keyboards go, also includes the keyboard I use for my desktop PC, the Lenovo Compact USB keyboard with Trackpoint.
The Wedge keyboard has worked flawlessly with the Note. It's fit and finish is beyond reproach, with aluminum back, and very sturdily built. When set on the tabe it's comfortably inclined. Designwise the aluminum surround also matches the Note 8.0 design. The two connect automatically without fail, and maintains connection very well. It's small, without having felt cramped ever. Of course my desktop PC keyboard is small as far as desktops go.
The one tiny detail I've noticed is the Wedge keys have less travel than either the Lenovo or the ThinkOutside keys. This gives the impression of requiring more pressure force, which, while being an illusion, seems to slow my typing down. If its the only keyboard one uses, this perceptual effect is likely to go away.
The bonus feature for the Note 8.0, which I didn't even pay attention to initially, is the keyboard cover. Removing it turns on the keyboard, putting it back turns the keyboard off. It's bendable with a sort of hinge function, vertically placed in the middle of the keyboard cover. I first thought one had to slide it on or off from the keyboard, but in fact it's bendable in both directions, so to remove it, it's possible to just bend it slightly backwards. The keyboard wakes up when starting to type on it and times out when not being used, and there are keys to also manually turn it on or off.
In my usage the cover stays off most of the time and it is a truly excellent stand for the Note 8.0. Being rubber the keyboard cover holds the Note very securely, while preventing slipping on the table surface.
Edit: Just discovered the keyboard's music controls (volume, play/pause, silence) work. I'm running Android 4.1.2.
It's not a cheap BT keyboard, but it was worth it.
Hi all, this is a bit of a long one.
tl;dr - I'd like to improve the fingertip performance of the Shield K1 I purchased recently, which frequently drops parts of swipes. This issue becomes worse when a screen protector is applied, but is mitigated under certain stylus situations, when plugged in, or when 'grounded' against the body of the user...
The screen frequently 'drops' swipes (the path is broken during the swipe) with 2 or more fingers on the screen, when a screen protector is applied (tried both plastic and tempered glass). It also does this when there is no screen protector applied, although far less often.
This makes the device unacceptable for touch-based rhythm games like VOEZ, Cytus or Starlight Stage, or for MIDI/OSC apps with sliders.
The performance is at it's worst when both fingers are near aligned on X or Y axes, and is apparent on apps like "Yet Another Multi Touch Tester", where rubbing the screen with two fingers aligned on the same axes will cause the touches to drop and swap IDs repeatedly. The issue is not apparent in casual use apart from the errant swipe changing directions or not having the right amount of momentum.
Performance improves significantly in a few scenarios:
Unit is plugged in to charge
Unit back is in contact with user (resting in lap, held in another hand)
With Stylus touch blocking disabled, direct stylus 2 is touched to screen during fingertip input, then swapped for a finger (???)
Based on the last point, the device seems more than capable of reliable reading of fingertip swipes, but only after the stylus has triggered some kind of change??
I've tried the included About Tablet touch calibration page, adjusting the touch pressure scaling in the touch.idc. Based on the touch.idc, I assume this is an Atmel Maxtouch digitizer, but I can't find much information on how these would handle screen protectors. They do seem to be able to read touches before contact is made with the screen surface, but I cannot find any way to increase the sensitivity to this point.
I have a Nexus 9 which shares the same Nvidia Tegra K1 chip (albeit dual core, 64-bit), and uses a Synaptic DSX touch screen, that has no such issue even when 2-3 screen protectors are applied at once... of course, this digitizer will not read the directstylus 2.
My main goal is to try and get this touch screen reading fingertip swipes accurately, even at the cost of stylus support etc. Does anyone know of any ways to adjust touchscreen sensitivity to account for dropped swipes like this? Are there any tools for debugging Android's reading of the touch screen at system level? I'd really like to know what the stylus is doing to improve sensitivity...
Any update on this?
I'm also having the same problems with the shield k1. It's especially apparent when my fingers get a little sweaty. The only fix I have so far is to keep them absolutely dry. I sometimes use powder on my hands and will go to the extreme of using latex gloves just to get the touches to register correctly. If you find any other solutions, please update this post.
Hi
So as the years have gone by, the stylus on my p905 needs more effort to be detected by apps like ArtFlow. Before, the lightest touch would draw a line (with pen only mode on). Now it needs like a firmer press. I checked using my other stylus and they work with a lighter touch but are detected at like at least 33% pressure. I tried downgrading to 5.02 (was on 7.1) and the behavior is the same. Is there a hack for this? I prefer not to have to bring another stylus and I already removed my tempered glass screen protector. I have also tried changing tips and the results were mostly the same.
Thanks