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Hey all.
Anyone know whether USB to HDMI is possible with the Honor 8? If so, any recommendations?
Honestly, good luck finding a phone that supports either HDMI-AltMode or DisplayPort-AltMode. I don't believe there's a single non-Windows Phone 10 device that does.
Sorry to crush your dreams. I'm still waiting on Google to enable it on the Pixel C, like they claimed they would ages ago.
ajbiz11 said:
...I don't believe there's a single non-Windows Phone 10 device that does...
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I mean, I was able to output to HDMI using a slim-port adapter with my Nexus 5; I used to use it all the time with my mini projector while traveling.
It doesn't seem that improbable.
Dis3ngage said:
I mean, I was able to output to HDMI using a slim-port adapter with my Nexus 5; I used to use it all the time with my mini projector while traveling.
It doesn't seem that improbable.
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MHL is very different than Type-C AltModes
I have yet to see a phone (outside of Continuum enabled devices) with support for altmodes, and Type-C doesn't have MHL support.
Lg G5 has this feature. I guess it's the only Android smartphone with the usb type C-Hdmi enabled.
Yeah, even though the port is usbC shaped, it's still a micro usb controller.
As far as I know the Pixel is the only phone with an actual USB-C and 3.0 supported port, but there may be others.
HTC 10 support display-port interface over it's usb-c port.
Does the XZ or the XZ Premium support HDMI alternative or alt mode through the USB-C port?
This is what I'm talking about :
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2016/9/1/12758384/usb-c-hdmi-alt-mode-cables-specifications
I think Sony dropped MHL support because of the google cast.
Not sure if usb C to HDMI works, but you can find out and let us know
Apparently the Snapdragon 835 natively supports Displayport alt mode.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWlkkM8SkDQ
I've bought this HUB with HDMI recently: https://www.amazon.de/Delivery-Auflösung-Ladefunktion-Macbook-ChromeBook/dp/B01BXOW3V0 but haven't got the HDMI Port to work so far, I'll try again later propably.
Any news?
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Any news?
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I've tried it again but it didn't work. The Device might not support Displayport over USB C at all or we just need to wait for an Software Update.
Check if your device supports Displayport alt mode.
Or you could try it with a Displayport alt mode capable USB-C to HDMI cable or adapter.
C to HDMI cable didn't work.
AndroPlus said:
C to HDMI cable didn't work.
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Hi @AndroPlus.
Thanks for chiming in.
May I ask which USB-C to HDMI cable you tried to use on your Sony Xperia XZ Premium for direct audiovisual output to TV ?
Is your cable DisplayPort alt mode capable?
Thanks.
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Hi @AndroPlus.
Thanks for chiming in.
May I ask which USB-C to HDMI cable you tried to use on your Sony Xperia XZ Premium for direct audiovisual output to TV ?
Is your cable DisplayPort alt mode capable just like this one? This cable here is marketed as DisplayPort alt mode capable and it's supposed to work with Samsung Galaxy S8 which also uses the Snapdragon 835 chipset. So theoretically it should also work with Sony Xperia XZ Premium out of the box.
https://www.amazon.com/Thunderbolt-Compatible-Galaxy-MacBook-ChromeBook/dp/B01LYS3Q5A
Thanks for the info.
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I used this one (it supports Galaxy S8):
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071FNG86N/
I tried with multiple TV and monitor, but it didn't work.
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I checked with HTC U11 and it works, so cable itself is good.
Unfortunately I can confirm that the Sony Xperia XZ Premium does not support Displayport alt mode at this moment in time. Perhaps Sony developers might add Displayport support in the near future though but don't hold your breath.
The hardware capability is there thanks to the incredible Snapdragon 835 but for some reason Sony decided to remove this feature through software or rather a lack thereof.
It's a shame really. Now I need to return this phone and buy a flagship smartphone from one of the competitors just to get this displayport functionality.
Hi, Oreo update has been just released for Sony Xperia XZ Premium. Any new info about USB-C to HDMI output compatibility? Can someone test it? Im thinking of buying this phone, but this is a must have feature for me. No luck with Google search.
Ditto-- any news since Oreo update?
Anyone try since the Oreo update? Results?
I just try to plug in the phone with a switch to usb C dock (capable to use with nintendo switch) but it still didn´t work for me, and nothing appears on the screen. The charging and usb are working correctly, so Oreo still haven´t HDMI support for our Phones
I connected the adapter I bought, and my phone did recognize my TV, but it didn't actually stream video to it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xz-premium/how-to/displayport-alt-mode-t3739553
just because a chipset supports something doesn't mean its physically connected, not even having the pins connected on the PCB will determine if it can support it, the hardware could be disabled in multiple locations and supporting chips may not even be present. yes it may well be software limited but don't hold your breath, since time began manufactures have be dropping functions from chipsets
Yes it's possible and feasible. Ignore that lame know-it-all naysayer and doubter above ^^
@Inerent
Thanks for creating a bounty thread for it.
You might want to turn it into a crowd funded fundraiser though.
100 bucks is not much of an incentive for the talented and hard working developers. Keep in mind they do this in their spare time. We must support their hard work.
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I connected the adapter I bought, and my phone did recognize my TV, but it didn't actually stream video to it.
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How were you able to tell the phone recognized the TV? Was it data transfer protocol maybe?
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How were you able to tell the phone recognized the TV? Was it data transfer protocol maybe?
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I have an app called Sentio desktop. It activates if an external display is connected, or a keyboard is connected. I didn't connect a keyboard at that time, so it must've detected an external display. I tried using OTG for plenty of other things. It doesn't make mistakes. Sentio only launched when I connected a keyboard, not external storage, or even a mouse. Only when I connected a 2 in one (mouse+keyboard) did Sentio launch.
And when I hooked my phone up to the TV with the HDMI cable.
Do you think that that piece of information could be useful in making a kernel mod to make it work?
Does the Mi Mix 2s support MHL or any other wired screen mirroring function? Because Miracast is always pretty laggy and it's especially bad when it comes to games.
AFAIK, Mi Mix 1/2/2S only support Miracast/Chromecast/Displaylink. You can try Displaylink supported adapter from Plugable (up to Full HD) and Chromecast Ultra (for 4K). Or you can try some Android TV boxs for Miracast.
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AFAIK, Mi Mix 1/2/2S only support Miracast/Chromecast/Displaylink. You can try Displaylink supported adapter from Plugable (up to Full HD) and Chromecast Ultra (for 4K). Or you can try some Android TV boxs for Miracast.
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As I said l, Miracast is pretty laggy and I was looking for a wired solution like MHL which worked a lot better on an older device I used to own. But still thanks for your answer.
Has someone really tried it though? Or does anyone know more in general?
Many have tried the wired Displaylink supported adapter on their Oneplus 5 along with usb otg. I think the main concern is whether the usb port can supply enough power or not. If that is the case, you have to buy another USB hub with seperare power supply.
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Many have tried the wired Displaylink supported adapter on their Oneplus 5 along with usb otg. I think the main concern is whether the usb port can supply enough power or not. If that is the case, you have to buy another USB hub with seperare power supply.
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From your infos It seems that the MiMix2s is normally able to put out an HDMIN signal through its USB-C port,
but only in combination with a specific app ('displaylink presenter')? This seems very unlikely for me.
Nowadays (6 years later) it surely exist a method with a "common" USB-C-to-HDMI-Adapter, or am I wrong?
As in topic, does asus zenfone 6 have ability to stream out video through usb to hdmi adapter?
After some time android q will come to this device and it will contain native desktop mode so i would like to use it.
I'd like to know the answer as well.
Is it USB 3+ that can do video over type C?
For example One+ 6 has only USB 2.0 over type C, and doesn't support video, while Samsung has USB 3.1 over type C as expected that supports video over type C.
Sure simple type C to HDMI adapter will be needed.
I wasn't able to find any specs for Zen6 type C at all.
any one knows?
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I'd like to know the answer as well.
Is it USB 3+ that can do video over type C?
For example One+ 6 has only USB 2.0 over type C, and doesn't support video, while Samsung has USB 3.1 over type C as expected that supports video over type C.
Sure simple type C to HDMI adapter will be needed.
I wasn't able to find any specs for Zen6 type C at all.
any one knows?
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According to GSMarena it's 2.0.
I looked at the USB diagrams and it appears that alternate modes over USB-C use the same pins as SuperSpeed meaning that you can't have alternate mode without the other (but not vice versa).
Unless I'm missing something, there shouldn't be any display mode. However I'm not sure if the GSMarena data sheet is accurate.
I currently have sony xperia z3 compact which has usb 2.0 (micro usb, but this doesn't make change IIRC) and also support mhl (see gsmarena https://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3_compact-6538.php). In my opinion it doesn't depend on version of usb which device is equiped with, at least it 's not the main reason for not supporting mhl. The question is, does mhl work on zenfone 6 with (potentially, because i couldn't find any information on asus website) usb 2.0 type c connector?
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I currently have sony xperia z3 compact which has usb 2.0 (micro usb, but this doesn't make change IIRC) and also support mhl (see gsmarena https://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3_compact-6538.php). In my opinion it doesn't depend on version of usb which device is equiped with, at least it 's not the main reason for not supporting mhl. The question is, does mhl work on zenfone 6 with (potentially, because i couldn't find any information on asus website) usb 2.0 type c connector?
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Display output via microusb worked differently as the regular port does not have the pins or bandwidth for it. I had an LG G2 which could also output a display signal. I think it's possible to do the same via USB-C but at the same time I think it's simpler to use alternate mode hence the conclusion I came up with. If I have the time I'll go digging around some more later.
I opened a ticket with ASUS support and they state none of the models they currently sell (including Zenfone 6) cand output HDMI over usb-C.
they might be stupid though, because ROG phone does.
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I opened a ticket with ASUS support and they state none of the models they currently sell (including Zenfone 6) cand output HDMI over usb-C.
they might be stupid though, because ROG phone does.
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It seems we have to wait untill somebode actually try connecting it to tv to be sure that it doesn't support hdmi output.
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It seems we have to wait untill somebode actually try connecting it to tv to be sure that it doesn't support hdmi output.
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I looked at a few things and I think I was correct in my first post. While I think it would be technically possible to implement MHL on USB-C like they did on MicroB (it would just piggyback off the necessary pins like it used to do), it doesn't seem like it would make sense to do that and I can't find an adapter/cable that would work in that scenario so you'd need 3.1 because they all require Alternate Mode support. However Alternate Mode is an optional spec so just because a device supports 3.1 doesn't mean it'll support display functionality.
I should also note that the ROG Phone has USB-C 3.1 according to GSMArena.
Another note is that it appears that MHL officially lists MHL as working on USB-C via Alternate Mode.
Meanwhile ASUS launching an external display that is advertised to support input from a mobile phone, but hey, no their latest flagship. they are so dumb they are launching devices that don't their other devices..
why would anyone cheap on using usb2.0 connector, when internally SD855 supports 3.1 and so does UFS2.1, is beyond me. It must save la 0.something to use 2.0 instead of 3.1
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It seems we have to wait untill somebode actually try connecting it to tv to be sure that it doesn't support hdmi output.
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Test on LG 27uk850W, not working, just charging
Xtr3m3ro said:
Test on LG 27uk850W, not working, just charging
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Have you connected it to tv using usb-c/hdmi adaprer or just by usb cable?
No native HDMI output for my device using usb-c to hdmi cable.
However I think the Asus portable monitor thingy they announced at computex actually supports data over usb to transfer the image.. but I am not sure at all.
mikek753 said:
I'd like to know the answer as well.
Is it USB 3+ that can do video over type C?
For example One+ 6 has only USB 2.0 over type C, and doesn't support video, while Samsung has USB 3.1 over type C as expected that supports video over type C.
Sure simple type C to HDMI adapter will be needed.
I wasn't able to find any specs for Zen6 type C at all.
any one knows?
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The OnePlus 6 does support HDMI out with a DisplayLink adapter. It's not great though, as you can't charge it at the same time and it runs the battery down incredibly fast, less than two hours.
Thanks for confirming it, it's a real downer situation though, I was really expecting to have the possibility to output videos through HDMI and potentially do the same with emulators + bluetooth joysticks (since it can handle even gamecube/wii games thanks to the SD855)
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The OnePlus 6 does support HDMI out with a DisplayLink adapter. It's not great though, as you can't charge it at the same time and it runs the battery down incredibly fast, less than two hours.
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IIRC video output via Displaylink adapter works on every device if it can install displaylink app. Displaylink support doesn't depend on mhl support on specific device. I'm just to clarifying for internet strangers.
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Thanks for confirming it, it's a real downer situation though, I was really expecting to have the possibility to output videos through HDMI and potentially do the same with emulators + bluetooth joysticks (since it can handle even gamecube/wii games thanks to the SD855)
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I'm right there with you buddy. I was so used to MHL that I never questioned whether newer phones would support it or the type-c equivalent. Trying to find a SD855 phone that charges while outputting video is hard enough, let alone one that's rootable with a headphone jack and a non-curved screen (my preference). I'm beginning to think we're going to have to wait until the holiday season when the ROG Phone 2 comes out. In the meantime I'm half-satisfied by using my tablet (shield) hooked to a monitor and keeping my emulator folders synced with my phone with Dropbox/SyncThing.
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Have you connected it to tv using usb-c/hdmi adaprer or just by usb cable?
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usb-c cable, i use that cable for macbook to have second monitor, and charging
hack.causality said:
I'm right there with you buddy. I was so used to MHL that I never questioned whether newer phones would support it or the type-c equivalent. Trying to find a SD855 phone that charges while outputting video is hard enough, let alone one that's rootable with a headphone jack and a non-curved screen (my preference). I'm beginning to think we're going to have to wait until the holiday season when the ROG Phone 2 comes out. In the meantime I'm half-satisfied by using my tablet (shield) hooked to a monitor and keeping my emulator folders synced with my phone with Dropbox/SyncThing.
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please, let me know when you find such phone, which :
is rootable, unlocked bootloader
video output to HDMI, with charge if possible
headphone jack
mikek753 said:
please, let me know when you find such phone, which :
is rootable, unlocked bootloader
video output to HDMI, with charge if possible
headphone jack
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Nubia red magic 3 is your best best. It doesn't support HDMI output yet but apparently they've said they may support it in a software update. It has USB c 3.1. Also 90hz screen, headphone jack, 5000ma battery, SD 855, it even has a CPU fan lol. It's newly out but I think you can install twrp and root it but customs ROMs might be few if any. It's the closest phone I've found to meeting my needs of 3.5mm, SD 855 and HDMI. Only thing it's missing is expandable really.
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mikek753 said:
please, let me know when you find such phone, which :
is rootable, unlocked bootloader
video output to HDMI, with charge if possible
headphone jack
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Specs
https://m.gsmarena.com/zte_nubia_red_magic_3-9692.php
Oh, and it's only £410.......
Hi, any news? Has anyone bought a displaylink product and used it working with the Zenphone 6?
I got a USB-C hub adapter that has USB 3, SD card readers and HDMI out, but it doesn't seem to work.
No video out.
Are there any settings I need to change to make it work? Any OTG settings or something?
This is the adapter I have.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000544358433.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.1cf54c4dwgapcH
The first one on the left.
Nope, it seems it was either disabled in the kernel or the pins weren't configured to enable DP Alt Mode.
I have usb c with my dell monitor and I can confirm it works fine. It screen mirrors it.
Even the hdr works from plex, emby etc.
My Samsung tab s6 has it disabled, so annoying.
2 conflicting answers, I guess your best bet @samusx is to buy it & try it yourself, good luck!
No issues here
It works for me as well. I connected my Oppo Find X2 with a USB-C hub and then with a regular hdmi cable to a cheap beamer and it worked fine.
Good luck!
[edit] I have a Hyperdrive USB-C connector [/edit]
Works fine here.
i have one. it's work on Android10. but no work on Android11.
I got a USB-c hub including an HDMI out, and it does work.
My X2 Pro is currently on Android 10.
When the update comes out eventually for my phone and I update, I hope it still works.
Hi everyone!
Please, Android 11 is it possible the HDMI output? Oppo find x2
Works on android 11, this is how I play cod mobile using xbox controller. Maybe not all USB standards are the same. Like not all USB-C to 3.5mm jack are the same. Make sure you try more adapters/dongles.
Does the video out (USB-C to HDMI) functionality still / again work with ColorOS v13?
Nexus-3 said:
Does the video out (USB-C to HDMI) functionality still / again work with ColorOS v13?
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I will buy adapter 20.04 then i will inform You
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Does the video out (USB-C to HDMI) functionality still / again work with ColorOS v13?
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Not sure if it still helps you, but I just tested it after breaking my screen and plugging it into a usb hub with HDMI connected to a monitor. It mirrors the screen just fine.